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Is there a problem, officer? If one decides to speak what is true? How you worded it out you make it seem the two are one in the same.

So are the A.N.(Alexei Navalny) heroes, and yet in Russia more than 1,300 of them have been arrested, all this going on with the FSB hunting for JWs and or anyone who is connected to them, while school professors are to focus on them and them alone, that even cause the Non-Orthodoxy to react. Not everyone in America is for weapons, not everyone in America is for giving weapons to the governments either, granted with the big protest regarding school shootings and the situation with Parkland Florida. As with JWs, it is common that some of them had own weapons before they entered that faith, as with others who had their own situations. This I agree with, as for Europe they have their own network of getting weapons left an right, but the most common in the EU is knife attacks, oppose to the US whereas it is mostly firearm and or assault rifle attacks. Therefore, some people end up training themselves, and or others. i.e. when met with a knife wielding attacker, such ones try to draw you in close while an attacker with a gun will keep his or her distance so you do not disarm them. Some cases one has to comply, other cases one has to take opportunity, or more or less, it is a fight or flight situation, and or the act of getting out of TDZ referred to as The Danger Zone. That being said, in the US, in most cases, it is commonly shoot first ask questions later type of situations, and they will target you if you are of a specific color or nationality in some cases, but not ALL of the US is bad, in this sense. As I have told you before, there is good people and bad people. Well if it is something illegal it would pop up in the media in some way or form. If anything I can try to find a source. Other than that, some people who use to do bad things will seek out to be religious, and have a faith, repenting for their misdeeds. So some people will actually turn over a new leaf and change. That being said, the situation in Russia is actually grim, I heard that the website that tracks people using that software I mentioned to JTR is still blocked as if the algorithm or something keeps changing. But chances are that Hunting List is bigger, and to the FSB it is open season on the religious, which includes JWs. The FSB will never, ever target the RoC because the RoC is in connection with the State Duma and the Kremlin.  Also I'd like to add Alexei Navalny has been released from Prison, he is the guy who is and or has exposed Kremlin corruption: https://www.rferl.org/a/navalny-released-from-russia-jail-antikremlin-protests-/29542488.html  Â

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Comma and Coma are 2 different things, Srecko. Other than that I tend to over use commas to keep things separate. Somewhat of a habit.

Truly, truly I say on to thee, if you really read the Bible, The Word of God, as you yourself made claim to, you'd be wise to watch your tongue wherever you are, even online so called follower of God and his Christ. I will leave here verses for you to read the next time you think, even the slightest of assumption, that somehow God is okay with that kind of language. Ecclesiastes 10:12 - The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious, but the lips of a fool consume him. Colossians 3:8 - But now you must put aside all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your mouth. Colossians 4:6 - Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone. Ephesians 5:4 - Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk, or crude joking, which are out of character, but rather thanksgiving. Ephesians 4:29 - Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. Matthew 15:11 - it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” James 3:10 - From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. That being said, you've proven the point made in the discussion regarding forum/social media, to which I mention such briefly in this regard. Repent and go pray. Do so if you must, the the actual effort to care is not in me, for I speak and a response regardless, for I have a disdain for falsehood, untruths and conspiracy. But it would seem when someone who knowledgeable walks into the room, it is seen as a problem. Tom mention the Christmas colors, so let's apply: If you knew the teachings of God, you be well aware of the Strong's to which you show a total ignorance of, knowing that both the words supplication and substituting share the exact same Strong's. You'd know that the Ten Commandments are still in application by means of the foremost commandants, for the Laws itself, from the Ten Commandments are Bible Principles that are still followed to this day. You'd be aware not to speak such a word, which is regarded as vulgar slang. You'd understand things regarding what girdled/nakedness means, granted it's Strong's straight off of Biblehub even tells you and it is not to be confused with the English Word. When you speak that one lacks Spiritual Wisdom, and you are question, and do not answer properly only shows that you were the one who lacks all this time, for if you teach people, they wouldn't take that answer from you in the real world when it comes to the gospel spreading. You'd be well aware that those who are fighting against sexual immorality will always need help to which you had stated the opposite, and your own words regarding this is not taken kindly to other Christians who help such ones in that domain, information I will not post here for they has quite the colorful words for you. You'd be well aware of what is actually false and what is true, and not using false information to justify something that is of conspiracy. In nearly every discussion, when one thing is being talked about, throw in child abuse, when such as been discussed already with many pages as proof, twice in 2 threads, one of which admin locked down, and as of recently when the topic was regarding 2 specific things of sexual immorality, also locked down for the same reason, for such a thing you cannot throw into the mix when something else is being spoken of. For there is a time and place for that, even the thread in question that anyone can still post in. You'd be open to truth facts, but clearly you are not. You grow angry an frustrated when a truth is spoken, even when a truth is spoken you do not agree with it when your OWN source says it is true. You cannot say you teach if you do not teach yourself, and it shows, so the advise given is of your benefit, Butler. Before I was sincere with you, but it would seem you show yourself of who you really are, hence a foreshadowing of my words some weeks ago coming into the light now. That being said, Mr. Butler, you can do whatever you want, but people will also speak truth about the Bible, the history of Christianity, our Church Fathers, the didache and the truth of God, and do yourself a favor since you are in the UK, going to Speaker's Corner with your the lack of Spiritual Wisdom will only get you refuted, tenfold. All that said, disgruntled one, I will advise you read, study and make research in all things spiritual because clearly, even with JWs holding your hand before, you still cause yourself to stumble and be the type of person who is not just quick to be angered, but quick to accept something as a truth without merit. So I leave you with these 2 verses so you can remind yourself every time you actually make an attempt to read the Bible: Proverbs 15:31 - If you listen to constructive criticism, you will be at home among the wise. Proverbs 24:16 - for the righteous falls seven times and rises again, but the wicked stumble in times of calamity. God and his Son of whom he made Christ, Jesus, can read hearts, Mr. Butler and the heart is very treacherous when it comes to some people.

Nowhere in this passage we see Paul referring to humans being as spirits, and or human and angel hybrids... Therefore the New Age belief, is nonsense, not even the students of Paul believes in human/angel hybrids. Therefore I agree with Jesus who he himself stated that Spirit is not flesh and bone, not like us humans. That being said is that if you truly agree with what Apostle Paul said here, which is totally unrelated to the human/angel hybrid remark to which you believe, it didn't stop you for making the claim that what Paul had a said, a man who had the Holy Spirit on him, were just an opinion. Paul here was speaking to the Church of Corinth, the same church of which was spoken of before to which you were disagreeing with Paul, why the sudden change when you yourself think this man speaks opinion, let alone Creation? Nowhere in God's teaching is there people both human and angel that bears both flesh and bone and you've yet to prove this - which is unfounded. You seem to do a good job evading what you yourself had said clearly and ignoring your own words. The New Age Theology is sheer nonsense and never originated with the church nor is it of God, a man and woman who is Spiritual and knowledgeable of the truth will even tell you the same thing about those of New Age Christendom and their odd ideology. As for the passage in question, 1 Corinthians 2:6-16, for these verses alone it is in direct reference to The Wisdom from the Spirit, in outline form it is Superiority of God’s wisdom, while verses 11 to 16, in outline form is A Spiritual Man vs. Physical Man. with the footnote for verse 13 stating the following: Or interpreting spiritual truths in spiritual language, or comparing spiritual things with spiritual. Now in Paul's own words, in his works, he speaks of being Spiritual in all things that is of God, which is the case with the passage, that anything of man's understanding of things in the world tends to be brought up in argument and or debate, even by rulers who do not know of God’s wisdom as expressed in his sacred secret. Us of mankind do not go anywhere else, we remain on earth, for there are those of false Christendom who believes we go elsewhere either dead or alive, others, like yourself, who believes somehow we become like human, who is flesh and bone but as a spirit also, a false interpretation, and an accursed belief.  In his words, specifically 1 Corinthians 2:9 which reads: But, as it is written, “What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him”— Apostle Paul shows us that he did not preach the wisdom of man that orginates of this world, the one you are trying to justify right now of which clearly Paul does not agree with you himself, but rather, Paul speaks of the wisdom of God, God’s hidden wisdom of the sacred teachings concerning Christ Jesus the King and Spiritual Israel in a heavenly kingdom. This wisdom cannot be understood easily be those of this world, and as for putting forth the application in contrast to those who do not, in the verse mentioned, 1 Corinthians 2:9, it is a direct quote to Isaiah 64:4, which reads: From of old no one has heard or perceived by the ear, no eye has seen a God besides you, who acts for those who wait for him. Here, Paul goes on to show that Christians having God’s spirit are not blind to thw wisdom spoken of, for they are aware of what God has ready for them, to take in and perceive the blessings of the Kingdom for such ones, who adhere to this wisdom are in union with the Christ, members of the church that is his body. The passage, 1 Corinthians 2:6-10, which reads: [6] Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom, although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away. [7] But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. [8] None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. [9] But, as it is written, “What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him”— [10] these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God. Nothing here, when reading for context and understanding, shows any apparent showing of human and angel hybrids or human spirits belief whatsoever, thus the claim of which professed by you is not support, it does not support the New Age belief in the human angel hybrids, even the human demon hybrids to which they believe - again, utter nonsense, nor does it speak of the belief of others who think humans will be dwelling elsewhere when the truth is it is the earth and the earth alone they shall dwell, as humans, not spirits, and as humans, soon to be made perfect, restored, so falsehood and speculation we are to avoid. Because of some of these beliefs, this passage also brings us to John 14:2, which reads: In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? Our Lord and Christ, Jesus, was speaking to his disciples who would be begotten by the Spirit, for he will be going to prepare a place for them, and these disciples are in Union with the Christ, invitation and the inauguration of the New Covenant, being before God. So we can see, nowhere in this passage, even by reference do we see Apostle Paul addressing that man would somehow be human and spirit/angel, what have you. For as I stated before to you, Us humans are separate creations to angels, just as animals are separate creations compared to us, we should not even think of and or consider confusing such with a false ideology, even the likes of the New Age, among the worse in mainstream Christendom compared to Trinitarians. The next thing you'll have to address still is in your use of not authentic Bible verses. Why do you adhere to a later addition that is spoken of to be Spurious? Things never addressed by Mark, this that is not of God's Word. I had to correct Allen on this before, would not have expected it to be coming from you now, granted of whom you adhere to.

College education seems to be on a decline nowadays, for people are trying to find other alternatives, some join the military and or the navy, so it is a mixed bag. There are those who work and teach themselves a trade and or something to land them the job. What matters is to provide for yourself, your family, cloth yourself, feed yourself, keep a roof on your head, etc. A friend of mine is working for Microsoft, and he taught himself, worked for and got the certs all this while relaxing at mom and dad's house until the checks started to roll in and he moved out at the age of 29. I know for IT if you land some certs you pretty much get for foot in the door, especially if it is anything to do with Microsoft or Cisco.

Mr. Butler has to know out in the real world when you preach the gospel, people will not take kindly to vague answers to a question. He has to learn sooner or later because if he were to preach the gospel to people, there will be things he cannot answer correctly or fully. For a Butler can say Jesus is the Son of God and the guy he preaches to pulls up a verse, Titus 2:13, such things you cannot be vague about, to speak and defend the truth of the bible, one has to answer the question accordingly, fully even and at least drop a verse or two, in that way you actually use the Bible in spreading the gospel. Jesus, the disciples, ministers and Paul can explain themselves, we should be doing the same. But when people speak the truth such ones do not accept it, and it is not by my hands or someone else that on the day that the Christ returns, His Sword would be drawn on the very person who denied what is true, for that fault is on the hands of the man who does not listen, just as it was in the days of Noah, in the days of those who didn't heed the call of what was about to go down in Jerusalem and other examples as seen in the Bible. Also the Christmas thing, I didn't realize it, however he can use colors to separate his words, as long as it can be seen and the like.

I have a good memory, and knowing the Christology of New Age Christianity, such of which you profess sticks out like a red flag, not only I corrected you, I informed you of what the actual belief is, to which you can look up yourself. So tell me, is it truth or not truth regarding human angel hybrids if you think such? The answer is already clear. Indeed I do, however your very reasoning last time you make stated human and angel, thus going into the murky waters of New Age belief of humans, angels and demons. Humans are not spirit begins/angels... God made us humans separate from his sons in heaven, it will not change of what you have said before, that is, if you made the research so that you are to be very careful of your words. That being said, human angel hybrids is an accursed teaching, it never originated with the church but people seem to preach it as if it is a message from God, how wrong they are and how blind they are, leading others to be misguided, to be fooled, not even knowing of the history behind what is true. I will say this, Jesus was not named Jesus before and he pre-existence, was in Heaven with God our Father, El Shaddai. Later on, he was born into this world, by means of a woman, born into the Law as Galatians 4:4 states and eventually he dies and has risen, thus returning to his Father. We are not only-begotten, we are begotten. You and me were born out of the the joining of our parents, thus we became, thus we live and here we are now. We are humans, not spirit being angels or mere spirits, unlike Jesus, we never pre-existed, nor do we go become spirits elsewhere or become a combination of human/angel hybrids. You made a response, saying this: I have never directed my attention to the earthly Jerusalem. The Bride is the new creation of heavenly Jerusalem. They are both human and “angel”. 1 Pet 1:23; 2 Cor 5:27;1 Cor 15:44; Heb 8:5; 1 Cor 3:16; Ezek 41:18,19 I said the following: And like I said no, humans are not like angels and or become human/angel hybrid of any form for they are TWO different creations, therefore it is silly to spout the talk of New Age nonsense, now for Humans, the Bible speaks of them taking a Spiritual Body, or as the Biblical Title and Outline states, A New Body. 1 Corinthians 3:16 would not make sense to use here because it speaks of us being of God’s Temple and like what was stated in Ephesians, God dwells in us just as he dwells in the Christ, nothing pertaining to being both human and angel hybrids. Therefore, read the actual references for this verse for context before making such a response: Romans 6:16, 8:9, 1 Corinthians 3:9, 17, 6:19, 2 Corinthians 6:16, 1 Peter 2:5, Ephesians 2:21, 22, 1 Timothy 3:15 and Hebrews 3:6. If anything at minimum, at least take the very words of Peter and follow the references through for context, furthermore, being in union with Christ and or anything pertaining to the Spiritual House, especially the people, those of Priesthood and those who will gain Eternal Life, as stated to you before, should be very obvious. Ezekiel 41:18-19 makes no mention of a man becoming an angel and or any type of human/angel hybrids. Another factor here is the very cross-references of this verse (1 Kings 6:29, 7:36, 2 Chronicles 3:7), makes no connection and or match-up with what you have stated, at least be a Witness to what the Bible says rather than going about your own understanding or the ideologies of the New Aged Ones. [18] It was carved of cherubim and palm trees, a palm tree between cherub and cherub. Every cherub had two faces: [19] a human face toward the palm tree on the one side, and the face of a young lion toward the palm tree on the other side. They were carved on the whole temple all around. So it can be asked, what did you try to prove here by making mention of this verse? Unless you do not understand what these verses been and it's context? Anyone who is honest can read, research, identify and understand of what this very conveys, simply in an obvious connection to the Temple, as seen in Prophet Ezekiel's Vision: The Inner Temple, or as read in the outlines, The Interior of the Sanctuary. 1 Corinthians 15:44 speaks of Spiritual Bodies [44] It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. Be it of the any spiritual means or that of the earth, a person, be it, regardless of their sex, have a body, for all persons. Once again to become a whole person, one who has died being raised up, having a body, hence the verse in question. We are humans, not angels, and angels are not humans, nor can there be of and or spoken of any hybrids of any form for we are separate creations. Going on to 2 Corinthians 5, well in short, does not make up with what you have said Therefore, you have to be very careful with verses and passages, otherwise, like I said, you'll trip over yourself - for this isn't the first time you have done this. I also said the following prior to the New Skin response: Humans and Angels are both separate Creations, they are not the same and or equal to each other (that is like saying an animal is both dog and fish), furthermore, as I told the Trinitarian, Humans are NOT Spirits nor do said human transferred elsewhere upon death. In the case of the ones chosen for Priesthood, they will have new bodies, they do not become human and angel hybrids or disembodied souls that roam the Heavens, the only people who believe such things are New Age Christians, of which I had dealt with for half a decade even in person, as is with others. To make matters worse, they have a connection to the ones of Babylon, L.T. of whom had made it their conquest to change Christianity since the 1920s by means of their Spiritual Mother and their connection to Helena Blavatsky and Carl Jung, furthermore, New Agers not only believe in human angel hybrids, they also believe that they can and or professed the ability to communicate with angels, demons, and spirits. So when you speak of those of Priesthood, [1] Do not mix verses to speak of what you just uttered, which is the things of New Age ideologies, and [2] You should know by now that such ones do not become like human and angel, as you claim, the Bible even tells you, clearly, that those destined for Priesthood will have New Spiritual Bodies, for these people are totally separate from Angels, nothing you have can show anyone that such ones become both human and angel when the reality and the very facts even tells you - even the title and the outline in the Bible itself tells you this, the ones destined from Priesthood will have Spiritual Bodies, never is it stated they are like the angels or become hybrids, similar to them when the Bible tells you the distinction. Therefore, what you have said is of New Age ideology, everyone knows who the New Age Christians are among mainstream denominations, it is not unknown to anyone of who they are, their practices, does it follow the church or not and or other, and we know them very, very well becomes the biggest heresy of their Christology is having the ability and or belief of communicating with angels, demons, and spirits, for they too believe in the heresy that is the Afterlife, for they too believe that those among them become both human and angel, and so forth. It is a shame you do not see that for yourself, even going as far as to mix Bible verses together that do not even match up, one of which even defeats your own claim – if you are to teach, you can end up as those who mislead, at least do the study and research and understand the Bible to not be in the position that you are in now and actually understand not just who the anointed are among men and women, but what will become of them afterwards, to say human and angel is not only disturbing, but shows how you are not as strong in this domain a you think, so further research is needed, on your part. Because you keep missing it the first time, re-read your verses before you make such a response, again, the verses you mixed together can easily be read and one can see of what such verses actually points to... Therefore, New Age beliefs is of the mainstream, it isn't in out church history, it isn't in our teachings, therefore we should not adhere to it, at all. For a very small thing can cause people to stumble, this is what one, we must avoid at all times, not doing so you are not doing a justice for what is true. And? We do not become spirits for humans and angels are separate creations. So as to what you are trying to prove that his been brought up before? The fact you are using the Textus Receptus reveals you adhere to Spurious Text. You do realize the longer version of Mark 16 is not authentic, and yet you show yourself to be using it now. The very reason I was and still am critical of the KJV version. LEt me enlighten you on what you use posted. Within mainstream Christianity and the KJY-Onlyist Crusade in today's age who assume they know about the resurrection of our Lord and Christ, Jesus, at times attempt to apply verses that are not authentic. The passage in question is Mark 16:9-20 (granted you are using verses 12 and 13). Many Bible versions end at verse 8 (short version that is true), and provides a footnote, while others do not. An example would be the NIV Bible, as well as many other Bible versions/translations. The Footnote in question states such a passage (Mark 16:9-20) was not found in the ancient manuscripts. Translations such as the KJV however, never mentions it. So the question now is why attempt to use a spurious text to try and justify something to someone who adhere to Textual Criticism? 2 Cor 5:17 - It speaks of Jesus being of the new creation. Nothing here indicates that we somehow become flesh, bone and spirit. Rom 8:14; 6:4 - Verse 14 informs us we are led by the Spirit, does not speak of turning into hybrid spirits. As with verse 4, it tells us more about the Christ and about The newness of life points directly to Colossians 3:10 and 1 John 3:14, for this newness of life is to be raised up back into life as the Christ have, thus being resurrected, restored, so to speak. When a man is raised from the dead, as we have examples from the Bible, they do not become like both human and angel hybrids, in Jesus' case he was not human at all, not even hybrid for he didn't have any flesh or bones, hence to what I spoke to you in our last discussion. A short response would be to say that such ones are born again. John 1:51 - Jesus is speaking to the men, saying that they will see the heavens open up and the angels of God ascending and descending to Son of Man. So tell me where are the hybrids you speak since you mentioned this verse? I see nothing regarding human and angel hybrids, born on earth thus going to heaven as is. Humans and Angels are separate creations. We are flesh and bones, angels are not flesh and bones. When we die, we will soon be resurrected, thus becoming perfect, we do not become angels, just in a state that Adam and Eve were before they disobeyed God. Those of the Priesthood will have Spiritual Bodies, they most likely will not have flesh and bones. And nowhere in these verses does it state what you are professing, and I quote: who are adjoined to him, hybrids Therefore to say something to which you stated, like human and angel matches up with New Age beliefs. We should not be adhering to New Age based beliefs because it is not of the church and it is accursed - the very reason I am very pressing with you and will bring it up in example if need be. That being said, you still keep mixing verses, friend, it seems you are no different from the rest that continue to do so. I will give you this verse because now you seem to be confusing Jesus' risen state: Luke 24:39 - See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.” Thus this Hybrid nonsense, is absurd. Just as I am telling Mr. Butler, do yourself a favor and Read the Scriptures, study it and make research, read up on Christian history and the history of the Bible, and learn how to use cross-references because still to this day you tend to mix verses still, furthermore, I suggest you learn how NOT to use spurious text, for if others wised up in this sense, you can do the same.

But I am a Biblical Unitarian Christian and you said this about me. You are a former Jehovah's Witnesses (clearly no longer of part of/or is part of a denomination) and yet when you are put to task your own claim falls on you and you alone, Mr. Butler. You seem to be more flustered than having laughter, Butler. You say you are not here when put to task but you attempted anyways, thus the response I made towards you. Plus that question was among several questions asked by those who use to believe in God, but on the fence of wanting to believe again or not, no Jehovah's Witness will ask you that type of question, but an Atheist or probably a Muslim or Agnostic will ask you this. I do not consider myself important, just someone who is very adhering to biblical knowledge and truth, nothing more. If you cannot handle the truth, best not to say anything at all, for again, I asked a question, you attempt to answer, you should always expect the response. I stated it is incorrect because no one would take that vague answer from you, this is why when you read the Bible and explain things, the answer has to be detailed and examples must be given. When I first been asked this exact same question I made the same mistake you made, then I began the research and put it into application. For if you are to prove or say Jesus is God's Son, you have to explain it, if you are to prove Prophet Isaiah was critical with the leaders of Judah you have to explain it in detail, especially what can be seen in Isaiah 28, and so forth. The same thing applies to this question, of which I call an Atheist question due to it's source of origin. I pointed you out as wrong because you didn't even spare much of an effort to explain the answer, but gave a vague remark, the very reason I stated no one is going to take that from you, not even me. So I advise you read up and research and avoid Hyde Park - people there will ask this type of question and several others, from minor to greater, even complex, i.e. dietary laws/changes, etc. Always explain yourself when answering a question, vagueness will not get you far, a lesson learned from CSE.

@Jack Ryan Apostle Paul was have been well fed if you think of it as such. That being said the passage said what it said in a figurative tone, which is referring to maltreated, harassed, wounded.

@James Thomas Rook Jr. Was expecting a warzone in the streets that surpasses that of the DC protesting regarding Kavanaugh/Ford and surpassing that of Black Friday days. A plus if the Kekistani Army shows up.

No. This message pops up because such an app requires it, so when you are downloading any form of media, it goes to your folders. This is no different from a UAC on Windows or Permission options on an Android/Apple device. UAC example regarding any app/applications/exe to be used and or accessed: Â Phones: Last I check, that app is no social media based app, just simply content pertaining to audio, video media, pdfs, and so forth. Example would be if you go to that app and download a video, it will not just be on that app, but in your items folder and or gallery. If you think this is surveillance stuff, you are, dare I say a big fool to think of such. That being said, I know this because I have some technologies and networking experience with devices, mainly windows, but I tend to dwell on android and apple items too. Â Also a side note: Android Marshmallow 6.0 asks for permissions occasionally now regardless of what you use.

@BillyTheKid46 As we can see when someone cannot handle truth, they grind their teeth, just like the lukewarm Christian who goes by the name Bob the Builder. @JOHN BUTLER So much for Spiritual Wisdom, therefore, you own words, hence you lack and not me, as quoted here: Can be used against you, in a sense, you shot yourself in the foot by your own hand. So let me enlighten you so maybe this time you can actually take time and read the Bible for once because if you cannot answer this, it cannot be believed that you not just read the Bible, but study it, of which can be seen here. Now the question posed seems complex, granted it was asked by someone who use to believe in God and attended an African-American only Church, of which believed in the Trinity, but later on became an Atheist, hence it is one of these questions that such a person brought up of which I took note of at the time. It looks complex, but it is not, it seems difficult, but it is easy, that is, this question. How can you have free will if it is punishment for disobedience? The answer: God gave us free will with the intention that we would use our free will to glorify Him in a variety of ways, one commandment being we are to love him with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength – for this hangs off the greatest commandment of all, which includes principles from the Ten Commandments (Deut. 6:4, 5; 10:12 Matthew 22:36-40, Jos. 22:5; Luke 10:27 and Mark 12:28-34). The people weren't forced to follow laws or commandments, they followed it because they know God's Will and follow it seriously, out of free will, even saying to God they will do all that he will say compared to their neighbors who don't even know these laws. Since the laws were introduced, there is also the opposite of not following the laws, one can be cursed or punished for disobedience. The law had a helpful effect of keeping an imperfect group of people partially upright and focused on God and it keeps the people in order so they do not fall to sin, even the use of offerings to atone for one's wrong doing early on. While the punishment looks extremely harsh, in actual fact if you look at it from the other way around, it was to help keep a people morally upright enough for Jesus to be born, later sacrificing himself for the sins of the entire world, committed by mankind. Because the real nature of God Yahweh, who is my Father, your Father and Jesus’ Father, such applies to the Son, Jesus. You have free will to do what you want. But, as pointed out, there are consequences, being wide open to those that oppose God, reaping what you sew (adultery, idol worship, immorality subjected to disease, causing strife to friends and family or any sort of trouble). One also has the free will to repent for their sins and change from their ways because forgiveness is a possibility; this was the case with several examples in the Scriptures found in the Bible. Case and point. You are absolute welcome. Now go read, study and research the Scriptures because you yourself is lacking, greatly, if I may add, a former JW, such as yourself, I advise you do more research because the lack in spirituality shows like empty plastic bottle in the street. If child can answer such, you can also, so studying is key, Mr. Butler. That being said, since you reside in the UK, I assume, best you stay away from Hyde Park if this question gives you this much trouble, for those like you get burned and rinsed with facts on the daily there.

These are not ideas, this is what actually takes place i such countries and what is taking place in the US/EU as we speak.

@James Thomas Rook Jr. Then you have Christians faiths of today and those that have ceased who also agreed to that specific year due to the studies and the like. So it wouldn't be something false, so to speak, if it can be understood by someone.

Yes, and they have people believing this only for those who are well informed with what trust funds are will consider such claims as absurd.

@Gone Away Indeed, and it is even worse in Russia.

Not to mention the silly claims such as all the churches of JWs harbor weapons and rifles under their churches and have bunkers at their headquarters. These same disgruntled people also do not know what trust funds are and actually believe the JWs own a portion of Victoria's Secret and Nintendo, when even a former JW who is aware of what trust funds are, explain everything and yet even with this information, it goes in one ear and out the other, mind you this guy was pretty much telling disgruntled JWs this information and they did everything in their power to shut him up. That being said, I have mention many times here that child abuse and molestation is everywhere, no one is immune to it, but these same people think that this is only among JWs, for we see nowhere that indicates JWs are immune to such things, granted all men is imperfect. But there are better solutions, even when such is explained, it is ignored and people will continue to bring up outrageous claims left and right and think the information to be as pure as gold when it is nothing more an ore stone. One guy brought this up and he has received death threats and fat shaming from disgruntled JWs, one of which who brought the Hate Parade to this man. I believe Mr. Butler or Matthew made mention of this very man who led the charge against a guy wanting to defend his neighborhood from ExJWs. Other than that, child abuse and the like is disturbing, but as a guy who helps young ones learn what that is, along with stranger danger, I can, and I am sure others also, can think instead of putting hate and pressure into one group, people can be better than hat but they choose not to be better, in this sense. Well you know what they say about some, hate is like a chain around the necks of people, they will always find something to hate someone or some group not realizing what they dislike is taking place around them, even in their own household in most cases.

Bear in since most of the items have been moved to "topics", I will post this here. The Gospel of John John 18:6 As he said to them, "I am," they drew back and fell down to the ground."  The Trinitarian Claim Some among the mainstream, including those of the Trinitarian belief, claim that the soldiers fell down to the ground because Jesus had identified himself as Yahweh/Jehovah. Beyond this, the claims are rather confused. Some also imagine that the soldiers had been involuntarily driven to the ground. The Claim vs. The Facts The Scriptures found in the Bible show us that these soldiers fell to the ground because they had heard claims that Jesus was God's Christ, their King who had been chosen by God. The Problems with the Claim Identifying Yourself with the words "Ego Eimi." This Trinitarian interpretation is the product of their own fanciful musings. These soldiers were looking for a man whose name was Jesus. Judas then, having received the cohort and officers from the chief priests and the Pharisees, came there with lanterns and torches and weapons. So Jesus, knowing all the things that were coming upon him, went forth and said to them, "Whom do you seek?" They answered him, "Jesus the Nazarene." Jesus' own words are in response to the soldiers' inquiry. Jesus asked who they were seeking and they responded by saying they were looking for Jesus. In the Koine Greek language, the words ego eimi ("I am") are used to identify yourself in the same manner we use the words "It is I" in English. A key example is from the same Gospel where the blind man identifies himself with the words "I am." John 9:8-9 - [8] The neighbors and those who had seen him before as a beggar were saying, “Is this not the man who used to sit and beg?” [9] Some said, “It is he.” Others said, “No, but he is like him.” He kept saying, “I am the man.” As you can see the blind man, who spoke said "I am" (ego eimi). Jesus identified himself to the disciples in the same manner when they saw him walking on water and were frightened. But immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, "Take courage, I am, do not be afraid." which can be seen in Matthew 14:27, also see Mark 6:50; John 6:20. When Jesus was asked if he was the Christ, he used the same language. Again the High Priest was questioning him, and saying to him, "Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?" And Jesus said, "I am and you shall see the son of man sitting at the right hand of power, and coming with the clouds of heaven." (Mark 14:61-62) Many will come claiming to be the Christ. Note the language used. And he said, "See to it that you are not misled; for many will come in my name, saying, "I am," and, "The time is near." Do not go after them. Luke 21:8 (see Mark 13:6). The above statement only makes sense if people come in the name of Christ and are saying "I am" to mean, "It is me." (2 Samuel 2:20) Then Abner looked behind him and said, “Is that you, Asahel?” And he answered, "ego eimi." Then Abner looked behind him and said, “Is that you, Asahel?” And he answered, "I am." Then Abner looked behind him and said, “Is that you, Asahel?” And he answered, "It is I." NASB And again, when he speaks to the Samaritan woman, Jesus uses the same language to identify himself as the Christ. The woman said to him, "I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ); when that one comes, he will declare all things to us." Jesus said to her, "I am he who speaks to you." (John 4:25-26; see Acts 10:21). There is plenty of evidence from the Greek New Testament to show that ego eimi was used by Greek speakers to identify one's self in a similar manner to English speakers who say, "It is I." At John 18:8, Jesus repeats himself by saying, "I told you that I am." The meaning is clear. They were searching for Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus responds by saying, "I am" to identify himself as the person they are seeking. They were seeking Jesus, Jesus asks them who they were seeking and when they said they were looking for him he says, "I am." It was the Greek way of saying, "I am [the one you seek]." John 8:58? Trinitarians also need to ask themselves why the Jews did not fall to the ground at John 8:58. But not only at John 8:58. Why didn't they fall to the ground at John 8:24 and 8:28? Also noted, information of such has already been posted regarding this verse in the Gospel of John, which can be found here:  A Roman Cohort? The Trinitarian claim is also sometimes based upon the notion that Roman soldiers came to arrest Jesus. Any thinking person will realize this is not going to make any sense. Roman soldiers wouldn't be the least bit concerned with the God of Israel or the divine name of Israel's God. To suggest Roman soldiers heard God's divine name and then fell backward upon hearing Jesus say God's name is simply ridiculous. The NASB translation and even some commentators have seen fit to identify the detachment of soldiers as Roman soldiers. They attempt to justify this by insisting the Greek word speira (??????) [Greek Strong's 4686]* necessarily refers to a Roman military unit. However, this claim is simply false as the following evidence shows: NOTE: Greek Strong's 4686 can be found here: https://biblehub.com/greek/4686.htm And joined with himself his own brethren, leaders of each detachment, Simon, and Joseph, and Jonathan, giving each one fifteen hundred men. Also he appointed Eleazar to read the holy book and when he had given them this watchword, The help of God; himself leading the first band (2 Maccabees 8:22-23*) And as soon as the morning arose, they hanged the head of Holofernes upon the wall, and every man took his weapons, and they went forth by bands unto the straits of the mountain. (Judith 14:11). NOTE: The apocryphal books of First and Second Maccabees, contains factual information. The book of First Maccabees, while not in any way to be reckoned as an inspired book, contains information that is of historical interest. It gives an account of the struggle of the Jews for independence during the second century B.C.E. under the leadership of the priestly family of the Maccabees. It deals with the exploits of Mattathias, who was a priest, and his sons, who are Judas, Jonathan and Simon, in their battles with the Syrians. This apocryphal work is considered valuable due to the historical information it supplies for this period, moreover, such a point in time is noted as a history that is written from the human standpoint. The book of Second Maccabees, which was placed after First Maccabees, relates to part of the same time period and was written by a different author than First Maccabees. It describes the persecutions of the Jews under Antiochus Epiphanes, the plundering of the temple, and its re-dedication. Some references to or quotations from the books of Maccabees can be made out of historical interest without implication, or other apocryphal writings, are inspired or canonical. There are also additional writings such as Tobit, Judith, Wisdom (of Solomon), Ecclesiasticus (not Ecclesiastes), etc. however the time of their writing is uncertain, however there are evidence pointing to some earlier time of the 2nd or 3rd century. The above examples of speira (??????) [Greek Strong's 4686] do not refer to Roman soldiers but to Jews.  Roman soldiers would not fall down to the ground before a Jewish man. The language of falling down to the ground is also common language in the Bible and does not indicate someone has involuntarily fallen down. It refers also to those who prostrate themselves in subjection to a higher authority. Roman soldiers would not be the least bit concerned about arresting a Jewish man much less suppose he was claiming to be the God of Israel by using God's divine name. Not only so, these soldiers delivered Jesus to the High Priest indicating they were the Jewish temple soldiers. Additionally, we also read that Pilate needed to be informed of Jesus. He knew nothing about this arrest. The Jewish Encyclopedia indicates that their were 15 officers appointed to manage the affairs of the Temple. The Temple guard consisted of 3 priests and 21 Levite guardsman. It was also the Feast of the Passover. During the feasts, numerous extra men would be required to keep order. An examination of the Scriptural facts shows us that the soldiers were Jewish. Luke 22:3-4 - [3] Then Satan entered into Judas called Iscariot, who was of the number of the twelve. [4] He went away and conferred with the chief priests and officers how he might betray him to them. Luke 24:52-53 - [52] Then Jesus said to the chief priests and officers of the temple and elders, who had come out against him, “Have you come out as against a robber, with swords and clubs? [53] When I was with you day after day in the temple, you did not lay hands on me. But this is your hour, and the power of darkness.” John 18:3 also explicitly says they came from the chief priests and Pharisees, "So Judas, procuring a band of soldiers and some officers from the chief priests and the Pharisees." The Synoptic Gospel accounts also confirm this fact. While he was still speaking, Judas came, one of the twelve, and with him a great crowd with swords and clubs, from the chief priests and the elders of the people. (Matthew 26:47; see Mark 14:43; Luke 22:47). In the Gospel of Luke, Luke indicates the chief priests and Pharisees were with them (Luke 22:52-53) and all four Gospels tell us that Peter had sliced off the ear of the High Priest's servant (Matthew 26:51; Mark 14:47; Luke 22:50; John 18:10). These were certainly not Roman soldiers. Romans soldiers were not at the disposal of the temple priests and the Romans were not yet involved with this affair. This was a Jewish conspiracy not a Jewish-Roman conspiracy. These were Jewish soldiers sent by the Jewish religious rulers with Judas who had made an agreement with them to betray Jesus. The chief priests handed Jesus over immediately to the Roman authorities, after they arrested him and interrogated him. Since Pilate knew nothing about the arrest of Jesus, the Jews had to inform Pilate of their charges against him when they handed him over to Roman authority (Luke 23:1-5) [1] Then the whole company of them arose and brought him before Pilate. [2] And they began to accuse him, saying, “We found this man misleading our nation and forbidding us to give tribute to Caesar, and saying that he himself is Christ, a king.” [3] And Pilate asked him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” And he answered him, “You have said so.” [4] Then Pilate said to the chief priests and the crowds, “I find no guilt in this man.” [5] But they were urgent, saying, “He stirs up the people, teaching throughout all Judea, from Galilee even to this place.”  Analysis of the Facts 1. The Reluctance of the Jewish Soldiers to Arrest Jesus The chief priests and Pharisees had previously sent officers to arrest Jesus as seen in the following verse: John 7:32 - The Pharisees heard the crowd muttering these things about him, and the chief priests and Pharisees sent officers to arrest him. NOTE: Guards of the temple in Jerusalem, also known as officers. These guards were agents of the Sanhedrin and under the authority of the chief priests. However, they returned without Jesus and when they [the guards] were questioned as to why they did not bring him, they responded, as seen in John 7:45, 46 The officers then came to the chief priests and Pharisees, who said to them, “Why did you not bring him?” The officers answered, “No one ever spoke like this man!” Here it is very clear that these men were reluctant to arrest Jesus because they perceived he just might be God's Christ, His Anointed One, and as such, their King, the King of Israel. What Jewish soldier wants to arrest his own King? Notice the context of John 7:32-46: Officers Sent to Arrest Jesus [32]The Pharisees heard the crowd muttering these things about him, and the chief priests and Pharisees sent officers to arrest him. [33] Jesus then said, “I will be with you a little longer, and then I am going to him who sent me. [34] You will seek me and you will not find me. Where I am you cannot come.” [35] The Jews said to one another, “Where does this man intend to go that we will not find him? Does he intend to go to the Dispersion among the Greeks and teach the Greeks? [36] What does he mean by saying, ‘You will seek me and you will not find me,’ and, ‘Where I am you cannot come’?” Rivers of Living Water [37] On the last day of the feast, the great day, Jesus stood up and cried out, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink. [38] Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’” [39] Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive, for as yet the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. Division Among the People [40] When they heard these words, some of the people said, “This really is the Prophet.” [41] Others said, “This is the Christ.” But some said, “Is the Christ to come from Galilee? [42] Has not the Scripture said that the Christ comes from the offspring of David, and comes from Bethlehem, the village where David was?” [43] So there was a division among the people over him. [44] Some of them wanted to arrest him, but no one laid hands on him. [45] The officers then came to the chief priests and Pharisees, who said to them, “Why did you not bring him?” [46] The officers answered, “No one ever spoke like this man!” So some of the people of Jerusalem were saying, "Is this not the man whom they are seeking to kill? Look, he is speaking publicly, and they are saying nothing to him. Do the rulers really know that this is truly the Christ? However, we know where this man is from; but whenever the Christ may come, no one knows where he is from.... When the Christ comes, will he do more signs than this man has done?" The Pharisees heard the crowd muttering these things about him, and the chief priests and the Pharisees sent officers to seize him... Some of the people therefore, when they heard [his] words, were saying, "This certainly is the Prophet." Others were saying, "This is the Christ." Still others were saying, “Surely the Christ is not going to come from Galilee, is He? Has not the Scripture said that the Christ comes from the seed of David, and from Bethlehem, the village where David was?" So a division occurred in the crowd because of him. Some of them wanted to seize him, but no one laid hands on him. The officers then came to the chief priests and Pharisees, and they said to them, "Why did you not bring him?” The officers answered, "Never has a man spoken the way this man speaks." The Pharisees then answered them, "You have not also been led astray, have you?" (John 7). There was indecision among the people. Some thought Jesus was the Christ, God's Anointed One, the King of the Jews. It is within this context that the Temple officers chose not to arrest Jesus. They clearly have reservations about arresting him because they think he just might be God's Christ and their King. Because of the promise God had made to King David, Son of Jesse, as seen in the following verses in 2 Samuel 7:11-14: [11] from the time that I appointed judges over my people Israel. And I will give you rest from all your enemies. Moreover, the Lord declares to you that the Lord will make you a house. [12] When your days are fulfilled and you lie down with your fathers, I will raise up your offspring after you, who shall come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom. [13] He shall build a house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. [14] I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son. When he commits iniquity, I will discipline him with the rod of men, with the stripes of the sons of men, Every Jew understood that the coming Messiah would be like David (as the context of John 7 also mentions). David was God's Anointed, God's Messiah, God's Christ. He was God's chosen King for the people of Israel. The expected Messiah would be the King of Israel like David had been and would sit on the throne of his father David as Luke 1:32 reads: He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord [Yahweh/Jehovah] God will give to him the throne of his father David, Every Jew knew that the Messiah was the King chosen by God to be their King. If indeed, Jesus was the expected Messiah, these Jewish officers knew very well it would mean they would be arresting their own King and ever worse, they would be arresting God's Anointed, His Chosen King, which meant they were ultimately defying God Himself. They knew that one simply does not do such things to God's Anointed King. The fact that they also go on to arrest him also shows this was an act to their own doubts. Jesus' bold response unnerves them and they fall to the ground because they are not yet sure whether he is the Christ their King or not. 2. The Davidic King: God's Christ/Anointed God ruled over ancient Israel by means of His Anointed, lit. His "Christ." The Bible tells us explicitly that Saul, David, and Solomon, were God's Anointed Ones. Jesus was rumored to be God's Anointed, His Christ. Honestly regard the following: So he said to his men, "Far be it from me because of the LORD [Yahweh/Jehovah] that I should do this thing to my Lord, the LORD's [Yahweh/Jehovah] Anointed, to stretch out my hand against him, since he is the LORD's [Yahweh/Jehovah] Anointed....I will not stretch out my hand against my Lord, for he is the LORD's [Yahweh/Jehovah] Anointed (2 Samuel 24:6,10). Do not destroy him, for who can stretch out his hand against the LORD's [Yahweh/Jehovah] Anointed and be without guilt?.... The LORD [Yahweh/Jehovah] forbid that I should stretch out my hand against the LORD's [Yahweh/Jehovah] Anointed.... As the LORD [Yahweh/Jehovah] lives, all of you must surely die, because you did not guard your Lord, the LORD's [Yahweh/Jehovah] anointed.... refused to stretch out my hand against the LORD's [Yahweh/Jehovah] anointed. (1 Samuel 26:9,11,16,23). How is it you were not afraid to stretch out your hand to destroy the LORD's [Yahweh/Jehovah] Anointed?.... Your blood is on your head, for your mouth has testified against you, saying, "I have killed the LORD's [Yahweh/Jehovah] Anointed." (2 Samuel 1:14,16). You just don't mess with God's Christ, His Anointed One. Every Jew, including these soldiers who came to arrest Jesus, would have known about these accounts from their sacred writings and the severity of coming against God's Christ, His Anointed One. The Jews expected their coming Messiah to be like King David in this manner. God chose the King for Israel and anointed him with His Spirit to rule over the Kingdom of God (1 Chronicles 28:5). Indeed, David sat on the throne of God (1 Chronicles 29:23). Because of this all the people of Israel bowed down to David as if to God because David executed God's authority having been seated on God's throne by God himself (1 Chronicles 29:20). David said to all the assembly, "Now bless YHWH your God." And all the assembly blessed Yahweh, the God of their fathers, and fell down low and bowed down to Yahweh and the King... Then Solomon sat on the throne of Yahweh as King instead of David his father; and he prospered, and all Israel obeyed him, as seen/read in 1 Chronicles 29:20,23. The word translated as "bowed down" in the above passage is the same word in both Hebrew and Greek to refer to worship of God (Hebrew: shachah; Greek: proskyneo), which I have explained before to which I will quote myself, briefly: Notice how Israel bows down before God and King David in response to David's command to bless Yahweh their God. David was God's representative to the people of Israel because he was God's anointed King, God's Christ. He executed God's authority over Israel; David was the means by which God Himself ruled and judge Israel (see Acts 17:30-31). Because of this, bowing down to David meant bowing down to Israel's God Yahweh since David sat on God's throne and executed God's authority. The language of falling down to the ground in John 18 is not therefore unusual. First, it does not mean that the falling was involuntary. Joseph's brothers fell to the ground before him (Genesis 44:14). A man falls to the ground prostrating himself before David (2 Samuel 1:2). No soldier would attempt to arrest King David, God's chosen King much less the promised son of David, the expected Messiah and King of Israel. Also note how Jesus did not attempt to hide from them but boldly identified himself. Conclusion  Jesus was asked to identify himself. Greek speakers, like the blind man at John 9:9, identified themselves with the words "I am" just English speakers say, "It's me." When he identified himself, the soldiers fell down to the ground. The facts in John's Gospel show us these soldiers had reservations about arresting Jesus because they though he just might be the expected Messiah, God's Christ and their King. If he was indeed the Christ, that would mean they were arresting God's Chosen King, God's Anointed/Christ. And that meant they would not only be arresting their own King but blaspheming God who had chosen this King. When asked to identify himself, Jesus boldly stepped forward, just as an Anointed King of Israel might do. All Israel fell down low and bowed down to David just as they were bowing down to God because David was God's representative. How much more then would these soldiers, who thought he just might be he Christ, fall to the ground before their King who had been chosen by God.

@Nicole The Kremlin are trying to brand the faith group and set them up to look like Terrorist, granted among the 175,000, these folks wouldn't lift butter knife at someone. The FSB is also no stranger to setting folks up to fool the general public, moreover, Kremlin controlled media who has been having more free reign since the State Duma are feeding people the lies. It's crazy how far people will go for a small remnant of 175,000 people.

Agreed. Because one thing I dislike is slander and dishonesty. I am a Christian myself but I have studied other religions too, mainly when others who are disgruntled speak lies even though they are not of that faith, someone has to step up to speak the truth. It is harder in other places I am affiliated with, like Islam for example, although I am not Muslim, I speak the truth about them too as with anyone else, even Jehovah's Witnesses. As for individuals, the truth must be spoken of about them, among the good and the bad, and among the things I detest the most is the mainstream Christendom who have people like James White. One thing for certain, disgruntled people and or opponents do not like dealing with those who are knowledgeable, in this sense, even knowing a whole lot about the Bible and as you can see, we have several among the bunch who show their true colors, even more when their own information backfires on them.

In a simple world, no, but in reality, yes. This is the case with those who practice vodou/black magic before tearing their victim to shreds for their blood. a Very disgusting and sick thing, but it is the reality in the Caribbean, for such consider black magic and any ritual pertaining to it as a religion and they have false gods and goddesses that they follow. Believe me, I had witness things, that you yourself would not want to see, for even to this day it is one of those memories that you cannot remove from your mind, especially when a relatives of your was victim. In the US and EU, so called Christians who subjected themselves to the believe that taking the blood of the young [young blood transfusions], age range being 18 to 24, would enhance their life, prolong their life and so forth, hence we have people paying big money, anywhere between $6k-$8k+ for blood donations of the young to give to the older folks. And such ones who do these consider themselves as saints, they eat and they pray, as they are committed to such things. On the other side of the spectrum, you have those who get their blood from blacks and latinos of all ages, organs even, torn out of their bodies, replaced with things, for example, newspaper in one real life situation regarding a minor. People like this take, sell and use whatever they can pull from their victim and when it is Sunday they think they are saints. There are things of this world that is not spoken of, and even it has been spoken off, not much of it gets out.

But your word on the last page pretty much contradicts what you are conveying here. You wanted to speak about Armageddon, I agreed and even said let us use the Bible, then immediately right after that you speak of the Watchtower this, Watchtower that when I had told you to use the bible regarding Armageddon. And next thing you know it will derail and you will speak of cryptic and or flawed things, then you will seek out admin to come to your aid as you have done several times already. If you do not want to box in the ring, you should not have hopped in to begin with, Srecko. And yes, Armageddon is the topic here, let's discuss it using the bible lone, unless you want to continue to seek aid from JWs and not make an effort yourself, it shows you cannot actual use the bible without given mention of them, i.e. when speaking about women, you brought up JWs and you misused Galatians 3:28, thus revealing yourself to be a mainstream Christian without much of an effort, I do not like mainstream Christians as you can see for months now. Clearly you never saw me as a friend, and never will and I do not care, especially with that witch doctor remark of yours you made against me before, assuming I would take offence but Mr. Butler did you the favor of preventing what I had to say to you when he shifted the topic, the first time I discussed with you and my word is true from the last page as it is now. So that being said, I put both you and Butler to task regarding Armageddon by means of the Bible alone, so far, Mr. Butler didn't realize how things will go down by means of what is spoken of Revelations and what Jesus had said. You want to speak about Armageddon, let's have it then, Srecko, you can use any bible translation you want, and I can guarantee you that you wouldn't get far without speaking about anything to do with JWs, as God bears witness to my words regarding this.

Because when he speaks out of line he will go off in a cryptic tangent, for this isn't my first rodeo with Srecko, hence why I go by HIS word to keep it focused. Unless you want to join him, you are welcome. I don't think I am clever, as with my first discussion with you my words were obvious to which you accepted. I haven't forgotten. I want to discuss Armageddon specifically with Srecko, anyone can chime in, but his stance is that the WT has some different view to which I explained to him briefly of what their view is, a quote, if you will. But it would seem at this point the both of you do not know that much about Armageddon, which is ever so obvious. I merely quoted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon#Jehovah's_Witnesses nothing more. If you go back to page 3, you will see what Srecko is asking for and I will quote him: It's pretty boring, if you have not noticed, and if that has not already been said to you by someone else. Please, try to focus your response on actual subject and not to disperse, spin discussion from Adam to Melchizedek to Revelation book. :))) To which I responded: If yo u want to speak about Armageddon on, speak your re solve now, but this time when you want to go back to this focus, you say, do so without adding opinion and emotion into the text, use the Bible this time, nothing else but that and what the Word itself says. So next time perhaps read the previous page before you jump ship, Butler. I think I am Jesus when time and time again I speak of myself as a slave, a servant. The question was posed because he thinks we are not focused, but if you want to jump in by all means, Butler, please do. No one is talking about predictions, we are speaking of solely Armageddon itself. This is your opinion, you should be using the bible. According to the Book of Revelations in the Greek New Testament of the Bible, Armageddon is pretty much the day of God, of which he will execute Judgement on the wicked and all that is bad. God our Father is a God of Justice, for even in Bible times you bear witness to such and when his judgement has been executed it is for a good reason. If you think God is going to send his Son to throw flowers and cookies in the face of the wicked, you are dead wrong, Mr. Butler. It is far more than that, along wickedness also includes those who try to test God, those who do not apply God's Laws, those who are for brazen conduct, glorifers of sin, and a list of other things. Jesus will be coming with the army of which his Father put him in command of for Jesus has been made superior after being exalted by God according to Hebrews 1, and they will go and enact Justice in the name of God, for the Lord and Savior will be coming with a sword, and he will come to do what he was sent to do, for as a King, as a Warrior, as a bene elohim of El Shaddai, he will do what is needed to rid wickedness off the face of the earth. And no, they won't be dropping dead as they stand, what part of God's Army or coming with a sword did you not understand. Warriors and or Soldiers will confront their enemy, from a distance or close quarters, it is no different from how the angels and even the Christ himself will do to the wicked, and we already know what angels are capable of, we have not seen or read about Jesus doing such, but him being superior, one can only imagine, now as for God, well, that is a whole different ball game. No they won't. Death is swift, mainly if the act is committed by God in terms of Justice, remember what happen to several notable people in the Bible? They were dealt with swiftly, in an instant. The wicked will not even have a millisecond to think, to blink, perhaps to take a slight of breathe. The Day of God can happen anytime, anywhere on this earth. This is why the Bible tells us explicitly to keep being vigilant for the day of God is near, as spoken of by Jesus and his followers, in to our day. This is why we should endure and read the Word and follow it correctly and accordingly. You do not want to have the mindset of those who remained and or decided to return to Jerusalem, for such is foolish. A great dealing of suffering, and a whole lot of it. In my experience what I had witnessed and heard, even by my hand, is like a haunting memory that torments. This is why I believe in the word, strongly, I believe in the truth and obvious be one to be an opponent of lies. For I know God will send his Son again and help us for we are in need of such greatly.