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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in JW Lawyer on Disfellowshipping and Shunning   
    "Inaccurate points" = LYING (aka PERJURY) on the part of Jehovah's WItnesses to none other than the Supreme Court itself.
    It can't get more "officially LYING" than that.
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from MeekSpaceNG in Norway Declares War on Jehovah's Witnesses   
    The pictures above is today's printed edition of the Norwegian newspaper Fædrelandsvennen. They have published the result of two years journalism where they have been digging deeply into the issues of PIMO life, the struggle to break free, and the consequences for mental health.
    Today they printed the first of seven articles as a result of this work, the story of "Fredrik" who is a fader, a story a lot of you will relate to. The next six articles will be in print the following days to come.
    All seven articles are now published online for subscribers. I will eventually provide translations of all articles into English here on this sub, but for now they have to stay this way. I would really appreciate if some of you would subscribe and read the articles through Google Translate. It will give you a better story, a complete layout with all the pictures and references. You can subscribe for only 1 NOK the first month, that is just a dime, 1/8 of a dollar. Just remember to unsubscribe after you register, so it doesn't keep running, you still keep your first month. If you need help subscribing, please feel free to dm me.
    This is the seven articles:
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/zL2Q5w/-Tenk-om-jeg-mister-datteren-min
    1- The story of "Fredrik" a fader who is struggling to find his way and keep his children away from the Cult. Also talks about the mental breakdown he had while waking up.
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/Ond27E/Psykolog--Helvete-er-slett-ikke-det-verste
    2. A psychiatrist speaking about the mental damages done to all of us because of the way JWs raise their children based on the threat of shunning. She speaks out about the impact this has on children and the way the brain works when it is pushed on this. She is "Fredrik's" healthcare professional and have followed his journey the last three years.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/e1gRb9/-Savner-en-far_-men-ikke-pappa
    3. "Rita" , a df'd woman, telling about her story, being df'd at 19, then reinstated just to be with his family even though everyone knew she didn't believe. Tells the story about how her elder dad fixed the reinstatement.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/Rx0X35/Geir-har-forlatt-Jehovas-vitner_-men-foreldrene-har-ikke-brutt-med-ham
    4. "Geir", he left as a youth before he got baptized, so he is not completely shunned. Tells the story on how this has affected his life, being an outcast from the rest of his family.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/4dwKAg/Barnevernleder-om-Jehovas-vitner--Dette-har-vi-for-lite-fokus-pa
    5. A childcare professional speaking out after reading the other stories. Says she is shocked and says that this needs more attention from professionals. Promises to take this up the system.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/L07Bxx/Hemmelig-lederhandbok-om-hvordan-medlemmer-skal-dommes
    6. A massacre of the Shepherd-book. A PhD in Theology walks through it in detail and comments on the way they micromanage the life of JW's.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/kaVLrj/Han-hjelper-tidligere-medlemmer-i-Jehovas-vitner
    7. The afterlife, an article about people who help those who have left.
    And for those who have bothered to read this post this far...."Fredrik", the dude on the front page, is me...
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from lentaylor71 in Theocratic Warfare   
    Here is an example:
     
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    Jack Ryan reacted to Srecko Sostar in Predestination ? Life planned before birth ? Chosen before birth ?   
    Things in Life are weird sometimes :))
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    Jack Ryan reacted to Kosonen in Predestination ? Life planned before birth ? Chosen before birth ?   
    @JOHN BUTLER  could be that God sees the genetics and the circumstances a person is born to and can then largely see the path of a person. 
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    Jack Ryan reacted to JOHN BUTLER in Predestination ? Life planned before birth ? Chosen before birth ?   
    I don't believe in life being predestined, preplanned, but some scriptures seem to show otherwise. Or is interpretation wrong ?
    Pauls says at Ephesians 1  3  Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ,b4  as he chose us to be in union with him before the founding of the world, that we should be holy and unblemished before him in love. 5  For he foreordained us to be adopted as his own sons through Jesus Christ, according to his good pleasure and will, ... 
     Foreordained = (of God or fate) appoint or decree (something) beforehand. 
    Now is this correct translation of the scripture or not ? Did God know Adam would sin ? Did God have plans for a 'heavenly class ' 144,000 anyway ?
    My brain can only take in so much at once and although i would have read this a hundred times or more I've only just began to think on this particular scripture. But it made me think on another scripture. 
    Romans 9 v 10 through 13. 
    Not only then but also when Re·bekʹah conceived twins from the one man, Isaac our forefather; 11  for when they had not yet been born and had not practiced anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose respecting the choosing might continue dependent, not on works, but on the One who calls,12  it was said to her: “The older will be the slave of the younger.” 13  Just as it is written: “I loved Jacob, but Eʹsau I hated.”
    ( As a note here I could not find this scripture by searching in JW Org but found it immediately by putting it as a question into google. Google showed BibleHub and there it is. )
    God chose Jacob before Jacob was even born. Why ? How ? Predestination ? Jacob's life pre-planned by God ? 
    There are probably more examples but i think these two serve the purpose. Does God have plans for all of us or only a chosen few ? 
     
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from Matthew9969 in Jehovah's Witnesses and congregational discipline   
    This sums up the JWs quite nicely...

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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from Matthew9969 in Jehovah's Witnesses and congregational discipline   
    Why don't JW's understand that this is clear and obvious child abuse:?

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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Today's 'examining the scriptures daily' : "what if someone close to you has to be disfellowshipped? Would you take decisive action by ceasing to associate with that person?"   
    But if they are an accused child molester that was not disfellowshipped because of the two witness rule, you can hang out and talk with them as much as you want. Or if they committed a gross sin, but tricked the elders into believing they were repentant, and did not get disfellowshipped, you can hang out with them to.
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from Shiwiii in Today's 'examining the scriptures daily' : "what if someone close to you has to be disfellowshipped? Would you take decisive action by ceasing to associate with that person?"   
    But if they are an accused child molester that was not disfellowshipped because of the two witness rule, you can hang out and talk with them as much as you want. Or if they committed a gross sin, but tricked the elders into believing they were repentant, and did not get disfellowshipped, you can hang out with them to.
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in Today's 'examining the scriptures daily' : "what if someone close to you has to be disfellowshipped? Would you take decisive action by ceasing to associate with that person?"   
    But if they are an accused child molester that was not disfellowshipped because of the two witness rule, you can hang out and talk with them as much as you want. Or if they committed a gross sin, but tricked the elders into believing they were repentant, and did not get disfellowshipped, you can hang out with them to.
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from shizhanee laaleeli in Norway Declares War on Jehovah's Witnesses   
    The pictures above is today's printed edition of the Norwegian newspaper Fædrelandsvennen. They have published the result of two years journalism where they have been digging deeply into the issues of PIMO life, the struggle to break free, and the consequences for mental health.
    Today they printed the first of seven articles as a result of this work, the story of "Fredrik" who is a fader, a story a lot of you will relate to. The next six articles will be in print the following days to come.
    All seven articles are now published online for subscribers. I will eventually provide translations of all articles into English here on this sub, but for now they have to stay this way. I would really appreciate if some of you would subscribe and read the articles through Google Translate. It will give you a better story, a complete layout with all the pictures and references. You can subscribe for only 1 NOK the first month, that is just a dime, 1/8 of a dollar. Just remember to unsubscribe after you register, so it doesn't keep running, you still keep your first month. If you need help subscribing, please feel free to dm me.
    This is the seven articles:
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/zL2Q5w/-Tenk-om-jeg-mister-datteren-min
    1- The story of "Fredrik" a fader who is struggling to find his way and keep his children away from the Cult. Also talks about the mental breakdown he had while waking up.
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/Ond27E/Psykolog--Helvete-er-slett-ikke-det-verste
    2. A psychiatrist speaking about the mental damages done to all of us because of the way JWs raise their children based on the threat of shunning. She speaks out about the impact this has on children and the way the brain works when it is pushed on this. She is "Fredrik's" healthcare professional and have followed his journey the last three years.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/e1gRb9/-Savner-en-far_-men-ikke-pappa
    3. "Rita" , a df'd woman, telling about her story, being df'd at 19, then reinstated just to be with his family even though everyone knew she didn't believe. Tells the story about how her elder dad fixed the reinstatement.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/Rx0X35/Geir-har-forlatt-Jehovas-vitner_-men-foreldrene-har-ikke-brutt-med-ham
    4. "Geir", he left as a youth before he got baptized, so he is not completely shunned. Tells the story on how this has affected his life, being an outcast from the rest of his family.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/4dwKAg/Barnevernleder-om-Jehovas-vitner--Dette-har-vi-for-lite-fokus-pa
    5. A childcare professional speaking out after reading the other stories. Says she is shocked and says that this needs more attention from professionals. Promises to take this up the system.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/L07Bxx/Hemmelig-lederhandbok-om-hvordan-medlemmer-skal-dommes
    6. A massacre of the Shepherd-book. A PhD in Theology walks through it in detail and comments on the way they micromanage the life of JW's.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/kaVLrj/Han-hjelper-tidligere-medlemmer-i-Jehovas-vitner
    7. The afterlife, an article about people who help those who have left.
    And for those who have bothered to read this post this far...."Fredrik", the dude on the front page, is me...
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Fædrelandsvennen - In Print tomorrow - Full front page and 10 full pages - "Jehovah's witnesses own legal system"   
    Link to the statement (behind paywall)
    https://www.fvn.no/mening/kommentar/i/OnJM8w/Maktmisbruk-i-Guds-navn
    Today we have TWO major articles as follow-up. Below is the editors statement:
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in In Print Tomorrow in Norway: "The Blue Envelopes" - Full Front page - Interview with Jason Wynne - Montana, Dutch Raid etc   
    Link to the story (behind paywall, though)
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/i/0E8mPM/De-bla-konvoluttene
    There will be an official , free, English version released soon, so please don't make a google translated version yet.
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in Jehovah's Witnesses and congregational discipline   
    This sums up the JWs quite nicely...

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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in Jehovah's Witnesses and congregational discipline   
    Why don't JW's understand that this is clear and obvious child abuse:?

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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in Romy Maple and Sister Star Accuse Jehovah's Witnesses of Cover Up   
    Two different women came forward in 2018 with stories of repeated sexual abuse during their childhood by adult members of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
    One woman, Romy Maple, said she was repeatedly drugged and sexually abused by the same man starting when she was 4 years old. She said other members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses ignored her efforts to alert them to the abuse.
    Years later, Maple appeared prominently in the A&E documentary series, “Cults and Extreme Belief,” which brought her story to national attention. Maple has since launched a nonprofit, 707SAFE — which stands for Sexual Assault Fighters Elite — offering “coaching, transitional and transformational support” to fellow survivors of child sexual abuse, according to Maple’s GoFundMe page.
    Another woman, who gave her name as Sister Star, said she was drugged, filmed and sexually abused at a Eureka hotel by a family friend and fellow member of Jehovah’s Witnesses. She said her grandfather and other men did the same to her months before, and further said her stepfather sexually abused her throughout her childhood years.
    Sister Star came forward with her story of sexual abuse in August. (Jose Quezada — The Times-Standard file)   As in Maple’s case, Sister Star said elders of the Jehovah’s Witnesses took no action to help her.
    Jehovah’s Witnesses World Headquarters offered the Times-Standard the following comment earlier this year:
    “Jehovah’s Witnesses abhor child abuse and view it as a crime. (Romans 12:9)” the document states. “We recognize that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes. (Romans 13:1-4) The elders do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities.”
    No criminal action has been taken in either Maple or Sister Star’s cases due to existing statute-of-limitations laws. In 2016, Gov. Jerry Brown signed into law a bill dismissing the statute of limitations for crimes of rape, sexual assault and other sexual offenses committed in 2017 and onward.
    https://www.times-standard.com/2018/12/30/no-2-women-say-they-were-sexually-abused-by-jehovahs-witnesses-members/
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in “WE’RE LOSING HER!”   
    Yep.

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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Romy Maple and Sister Star Accuse Jehovah's Witnesses of Cover Up   
    Two different women came forward in 2018 with stories of repeated sexual abuse during their childhood by adult members of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
    One woman, Romy Maple, said she was repeatedly drugged and sexually abused by the same man starting when she was 4 years old. She said other members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses ignored her efforts to alert them to the abuse.
    Years later, Maple appeared prominently in the A&E documentary series, “Cults and Extreme Belief,” which brought her story to national attention. Maple has since launched a nonprofit, 707SAFE — which stands for Sexual Assault Fighters Elite — offering “coaching, transitional and transformational support” to fellow survivors of child sexual abuse, according to Maple’s GoFundMe page.
    Another woman, who gave her name as Sister Star, said she was drugged, filmed and sexually abused at a Eureka hotel by a family friend and fellow member of Jehovah’s Witnesses. She said her grandfather and other men did the same to her months before, and further said her stepfather sexually abused her throughout her childhood years.
    Sister Star came forward with her story of sexual abuse in August. (Jose Quezada — The Times-Standard file)   As in Maple’s case, Sister Star said elders of the Jehovah’s Witnesses took no action to help her.
    Jehovah’s Witnesses World Headquarters offered the Times-Standard the following comment earlier this year:
    “Jehovah’s Witnesses abhor child abuse and view it as a crime. (Romans 12:9)” the document states. “We recognize that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes. (Romans 13:1-4) The elders do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities.”
    No criminal action has been taken in either Maple or Sister Star’s cases due to existing statute-of-limitations laws. In 2016, Gov. Jerry Brown signed into law a bill dismissing the statute of limitations for crimes of rape, sexual assault and other sexual offenses committed in 2017 and onward.
    https://www.times-standard.com/2018/12/30/no-2-women-say-they-were-sexually-abused-by-jehovahs-witnesses-members/
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    Jack Ryan reacted to JJJ-AUSTRALIA in JW Lawyer on Disfellowshipping and Shunning   
    Well, there were 2 inaccurate points that lawyer made, they have to seat in the second room or at the back of the hall and not allow to enter the hall before prayer and they have to leave the hall before the closinprayer er, also the only thing i know is that if the person lives at home they can still have some sort of interaction at home but if the disfellowshiped person lives not at home there will be not relationship at all till he is reinstated.
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Witnesses and congregational discipline   
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in JW Lawyer on Disfellowshipping and Shunning   
    Jehovah's Witness Organization Redefines Shunning to Falsely.mp4 Every JW visiting this page should MORALLY comment below and publicly state that this JW Lawyer is LYING through his teeth to the Canadian Supreme Court.
    If you don't, YOU participate in this gross sin. Because you ALL KNOW this is a false statement.
    Remember as well that this JW Lawyer is also an Officer of the Court.
    What the courts do not know is that JW's consider outright lying in court a part of "theocratic warfare" just like Muslims do. So it is a virtue to them.

    SMH.
    Can you spell P-E-R-J-U-R-Y?
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    Jack Ryan got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Witnesses and congregational discipline   
    Clinical Psychologist Discusses Jehovah's Witnesses
    “Fear tactics and the promotion of hate...” So much for the religion of love. It really is the religion of fear and hate, I’ve known this for years. Glad to see a psychotherapist state it!
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