James Thomas Rook Jr.

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Yeah, when raising my three children I never had to beat them with a literal rod ... except for number 4, Amos (The Evil One), who we had to chain to the rafters in the attic, and occasionally discipline him by throwing a bucket of fish heads up the stairs at him.
Boy!, that kid could wail and moan and rattle chains like you wouldn't BELIEVE!
He was 32 years old before he died,  and he turned out nicely before the end.
We finally did train him to do useful, productive work, got him longer chains, and he ran  all during the nighttime on a giant hamster wheel hooked up to a generator for all our electricity, except the clothes dryer, which takes 240 volts.
I was there the night he died on the Hamster Wheel, while I was repairing  a smoking hot  bad wheel bearing, when he uttered his last words ...
"WATER!" "Water!
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Eoin:
OF COURSE IT HAS CHANGED.  
The scriptural admonition posted above is CRYSTAL CLEAR. I know for a fact that if my Father had not whipped me with belts and switches to cut the blood out of my legs (for which he openly wept ..) the day I turned 18 years old I would have been electrocuted in the Spring Street Prison in Richmond Virginia.
We are not in an era where strong people do the right things anymore ... even in the Truth we are governed by Snowflake inspired political correctness, participation awards, and instead of a love for mercy and righteousness ... all theocratic policy is now set by the Society's Lawyers and Accountants, and the rest is ignored or watered down.
But for the emasculated Fathers among the Brotherhood, there is HOPE!

Eoin:
OF COURSE IT HAS CHANGED.  
The scriptural admonition posted above is CRYSTAL CLEAR. I know for a fact that if my Father had not whipped me with belts and switches to cut the blood out of my legs (for which he openly wept ..) the day I turned 18 years old I would have been electrocuted in the Spring Street Prison in Richmond Virginia.
We are not in an era where strong people do the right things anymore ... even in the Truth we are governed by Snowflake inspired political correctness, participation awards, and instead of a love for mercy and righteousness ... all theocratic policy is now set by the Society's Lawyers and Accountants, and the rest is ignored or watered down.
But for the emasculated Fathers among the Brotherhood, there is HOPE!

Even when the animals live in peace ... slowly starving to death from malnutrition,  there will always be that ONE exception. 
1.) This is my Daughter at age 12, with a picture we took at a shopping mall.
2.) This is a picture of a hippo, saving a poor crocodile from drowning.
3. Another picture of a mammal and an amphibian getting along well . and
4. There is ALWAYS that ONE Exception ...
...sigh ...

I do not know much, ..... 
but am sure THIS WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEW WORLD !!!
 

 

TTH
The only thing on YOUR watch is possibly Mickey Mouse.
We have been exchanging barbs for MANY months now, and there is a common thread .... when your reasoning is shown by example to be deficient .. you change the subject, deliberately misunderstand or... worse ... accuse people of bad character or apostates, and at least three times, have been vulgar about it.
You are FAMOUS for ad hominum attacks, open, thinly disguised, and heavily disguised ... but ALL to try and conceal your lack of reading comprehension skills, or faulty logic.
And the worst crime in your attempts to be funny ... almost without exception ... all you can manage is clever. Fracturing your personality into three parts each with a name and log-in WAS clever... and ALMOST funny.
You lash out about form (type style, type size, cartoons, memes, etc.) and never address the issues that are stapled to your forehead.
AND YOU NEVER GET THE POINT OF ANY DISCUSSION that interferes with your predigested view of how things OUGHT to be, even when presented with HARD EVIDENCE to the contrary.
You still have not realized that the rules of engagement here in this public forum are that you fight to the END to advance your beliefs ... and getting miffed, and hiding behind the curtain of the "loyalty agenda", is the equivalent of cowardice on the field of battle.
That is not only Mickey Mouse ... it's just plain ... *coff* .... Goofy.
TRUTH is born of fire and steel, and bad ideas need to die publicly.

From Seaworld Parks and Entertainment:
"Food Preferences And Resources ( of Walruses)
Walruses prefer molluscs - mainly bivalves such as clams. They also eat many other kinds of benthic invertebrates including worms, gastropods, cephalopods, crustaceans, sea cucumbers, and other soft-bodied animals. Walruses may occasionally prey on fishes such as polar cod. Walruses may eat the carcasses of young seals when food is scarce. There are some rare but habitual seal-eating walruses. Their diet consists mainly of ringed and bearded seals. These are usually male walruses, recognizable because they are usually larger than other males, with powerful shoulder and chest muscles. Their skin may become grease-stained from the blubber of the seals they prey on.  
The Elephants teeth look like that so they can FIGHT meat eating  predators on an equal basis, and the fact that they cannot floss without two trunks.
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Not one witness in 200 understands ( and I just made up that statistic ...) that the way "new truth" is determined is that it is proposed by someone, and VOTED ON ... and there has to be a 66.66% majority to apostasize from the "Old Truth", or come up with a "new" idea.
In 1957, when Sputnik was circling the Earth ... it was proposed that this be viewed as one of the "signs in the heavens", but it did not get enough votes to become "new light".
YOU CANNOT VOTE ON TRUTH!
Something is either true ... or it's NOT!
I remember pieces of a movie I saw on TV many years ago ... I think the movie's setting years were somewhere around the 1300's ... Omar Sherif playing somebody was being asked if there REALLY was such a thing as witches.
He replied "I hope so ... because we burn at the stake about 16,000 a year, in Germany alone." (paraphrased 50 year old memory fragment).
I understand the relationship between these two apparently disjointed ideas ... I hope you do also.
When people start "making up" theology from NOTHING ... they also start collecting firewood for those who will not, and cannot believe it.
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This is absolutely incorrect. He was ignoring prevailing opinion at the time. His quote specifically states it was not the organization's view at the time. (hence, not in Watchtower print) I didn't drill down any further, seeing no need to challenge every word from trustworthy persons. But frankly, I thought is was their view at the time, with regard to Bethel service.
If you want special privileges anywhere, you may have to conform to some rules. These are not binding for Christians in general, but only for those who wish to officially represent JWs, as elders and MS's do. With Bethel service, I believe it is more a matter of conforming to family headship, Bethel often being called 'the Bethel family.' Among actual families, one family head decrees this or that rule for family members, another does not, or has different ones.
Nobody has to serve in Bethel. Nobody has to pioneer. Nobody has to serve as an elder or MS. But if you do, there may be additional requirements beyond that which apply to Christians generally. It is that way with representing anyone anywhere.
 

If I was theoretically in "a room" at some point, you have no idea whereabouts at the table I might have been sitting TrueTomHarley.
Nevertheless, it's not relevant to the points I'm making and I have no inclination to be baited by your throwing mud at the wall to see if anything sticks.
You are constantly diverting from the scriptural aspect of the discussion and making it a personal matter, which although not surprising to me, ought to be a red flag to readers. This is a common tactic when a person has no scriptural or moral argument.
 
Slander is a very strong accusation TrueTomHarley. And you throw it around like confetti? Please point to a post where I have slandered the GB or any other person, or calm down and show the strength of character to withdraw such a statement.
 
When I cry, I cry like a grown man. And any grown man should cry if he sees people being hurt. But many of them don't, having had their hearts hardened to a "greater cause".
But I can assure you that your personal comments here do not affect me emotionally in the slightest.
 
 
 

Me too. But I thank him for the food that was available to make the meal. If my wife burns it or adds way too much salt I don't pretend that God did the cooking.

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Bruceq is probably right ....
If we are going to REFUSE to use the word "generation" like Jesus meant it ...  which all those listening INSTANTLY understood without a million word debate ....... the way the word has been used for FOUR THOUSAND and more years, and is used today by EVERYBODY on the planet ..... except the GB .. it's like milking a mouse, because you need the butter.
... or a squirrel.

I hadn't realized that people could create new topics under your name without your say so. But this is the second one for me now.
So if anyone thinks I started this and haven't replied I can assure you I wasn't even aware that this topic existed until a couple of seconds ago.

MORE STRAW!!!

Ok, AllenSmith ... I give up.
You have worn me down to the nub with many words . yadda yadda yadda yadda.
The question remains ....
WHY ? .... does Jehovah God forbid tattoos?
 
Going through what you wrote is like finding a specific four-leaf clover on a golf course.
Your short answer AND your long answer were not ANSWERS .. they were additional QUESTIONS !!
 

I have been thinming about a tattoo on my chest the size of a car stering wheel ... a large red hart wisth roses and flowers .. and an arroe going through it, and in big etters in the middle "Mammy! Yo de MOST!".
... as soon as I finish the next six beers ....

I guarantee you one thing ... when Polar Bears become vegetarians ... people are going to get VERY tired of hauling 23 million tons of straw to the wastelands of the Arctic, day after day after day after day ....... after day after day.
Or as Marie Antoinette was reported to have said just before she lost her head " No straw? ... Let them eat ICE!"
... but I may have gotten that mixed up.
(... and I betcha the Polar Bears will equally get tired of all that straw!)
 
 

Can God make a rock so big EVEN HE cannot lift it?
 

VERY SIMPLE SOLUTION:
Use plain old common sense, and ALSO look at the differences between a cow's teeth ( and every other king of animal that eats vegetation ...) and a lion's teeth, or a crocodiles' teeth ( and EVERY other animal that eats meat ...), and notice the difference in DESIGN.
When I see large Tiger type incisors on a horse, (... like a tiger has ...  for those in Rio Linda ...) the only thing I can be sure of is that he or she has a Visa card, and has been shopping at a Halloween supply novelty store for vampire teeth. ( That was satire ... for those in Rio Linda...).
Good intellectual detectives detect much.
Bad intellectual detectives detect little.
About half the world's population don't intellectually detect at all.
That is what DEFINES average people.
These people are usually made into slaves, because they are unaware and have no powers of observation.
.They will believe ANYTHING!, no matter how irrational, if it's stuffed inside a  cuddly, huggable Teddy Bear.

Me go sleeping .. Jane Cold feet,  need 'um hubby to feed Elephant und Lion in morning!
Tantor like um PEANUTS!
Numa like um ..... BACON!

Our meeting was yesterday ( three Congregations at the same Hall..) but the Watchtower Study  lesson on Justice from Jehovah notwithstanding, I  did not think I would be forgiven if  l messed up the seats and the carpet with globs of bacon grease .....
...sigh....
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Actually, I was just trying to be funny ... a closer approximation for me would be everything you see in that picture I posted above to be BACON! ( Or pork chops, or Bar-B-Que with cole slaw ...).
 

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This is MY Paradise Fantasy ....
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Well and honestly captioned ....

Ok, AllenSmith ... I give up.
You have worn me down to the nub with many words . yadda yadda yadda yadda.
The question remains ....
WHY ? .... does Jehovah God forbid tattoos?
 
Going through what you wrote is like finding a specific four-leaf clover on a golf course.
Your short answer AND your long answer were not ANSWERS .. they were additional QUESTIONS !!