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    Arauna got a reaction from OtherSheep in “We Will Cease To Exist! Our Values! Our Identity! Will Be Taken Away By Islamization Of Our Society   
    Wilders only mentioned demographics because the interviewer was interrupting him more that allowing him to speak:  With the European population growth at  -1 ; and most Muslim men allowed 4 wives who are having 6 - 8 children - we can predict an  Islamic government within the next 25 years.  This Muslims youth - when coming of age to vote - will vote in Muslim  candidates... and when these candidates are in power they will bring in full Sharia Law.  
    Islam is not a race - it is an ideology.
    So Christians who will not bow to islam are facing a dire situation.   Most Muslim countries do not allow freedom of religion and most do not allow Bibles, preaching, or Christian places of worship.  Jews will face immediate death.
    My interest in this is merely to see where the world is going and the possible fulfillment of prophecies in the Bible.  A coalition of governments will turn against maybe one religion and then all the rest or against religion at the same time....  I understand that this clash of civilization/ religion / far-left versus far-right / is lying in the future of all governments and false religion.   True Christians will only keep busy with the work Jesus has given us and stay out of the fray when it blows up!
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    Arauna reacted to JW Insider in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?   
    I have no interest in Valentine's Day, but I understand the appeal, especially for young ones, to have an excuse to express an amorous feeling verbally in a kind of teasing way that won't get them into trouble (because the holiday is designed to create an approved way to do this without the typical issues that young ones would deal with trying to navigate social norms). But the very fact that such a day was named after a "saint" that I knew nothing about was enough for me to avoid it and disapprove of it for my children. I can't say I ever cared to learn about the true history of the holiday, but it wouldn't surprise me that many things that might have some small value to some people are based on practices that we would and should find disgusting today.
    I often hear that we make it difficult to our children to get along in school by taking away so many things that others find "innocent." To me, however, taking a stand against something is a good and healthy thing, as long as we can explain our reasons correctly. (1 Peter 3:15)
    That said, I am very glad that someone (Ann, in this case) actually answered the question with relevant research. The question implies that Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Valentine's Day is related to Nimrod, and this should be quite embarrassing to many Jehovah's Witnesses, if they don't know anything about the basis for the claim.
    The Bible doesn't say anything about Nimrod being related to any one of the gods mentioned in the OP. None of that is Biblical and therefore 2 Tim 3:16 doesn't apply directly.
    What if the topic had been:
    Was Santa Claus and the Babylonian God of Pedophiles the same god worshiped?
    The Bible does not say anything about a Babylonian God of Pedophiles, of course, but neither does it say anything about Nimrod being worshiped. But if we became known as a group of supposed "Bible students" or "Bible researchers" and we went around talking about the "God of Pedophiles" then we should rightly be ridiculed for sloppy research. It turns out there also is no research that ties Nimrod to any of these claims we have made for him, either. 
    Now if the discussion had turned toward false or improper practices and the ease with which religion absorbs these things for syncretic or ecumenical purposes, or the relationship of worldly attitudes in religion as a form of Satan's influence, then this could still be a useful and reasonable discussion of how such things from old still related to our times and our conscience. 
    The fact that the Watch Tower publications stopped making such claims years ago, is a hint that we should probably be more careful ourselves. 
    Just a quick follow-up quote from the Watchtower:
    *** w84 9/1 p. 20 Would You Spread a Rumor? ***
    DURING the Middle Ages an incredible rumor spread among the so-called Christians of Europe. It was whispered that each year at Passover, the Jews murdered a Christian and used his blood in their rituals. Sometimes they were said to capture Christian children and torture them horribly before killing them and using their blood. Right up until this century, during the Nazi period in Germany, this rumor was used as an excuse to persecute the Jews.
    The story was investigated and disproved several times, yet it persisted for almost a thousand years. If someone had told it to you, would you have shared in spreading it? Hopefully, all of us would have had enough common sense or compassion not to do so. Yet rumors are persistent and complex things. Once started, they are difficult to stop. Even today, absurd rumors spring up and spread like wildfire.
    For example, Procter & Gamble, a large firm supplying household products in the United States, was recently victimized by a rumor that it promoted Satanism and that its trademark was really a demon symbol. Another widespread rumor had it that a well-known chain of fast-food stores was putting worms in its hamburgers! Some years ago it was widely believed that a member of the singing group the Beatles had died in an auto accident and had been replaced by a double. Even the Watchtower Society’s publications have been the subject of rumors—for example, that one of the artists had secretly been introducing pictures of demons into the illustrations, was subsequently found out and disfellowshiped!
    Did you share in spreading any such stories? If so, you were—perhaps unwittingly—spreading an untruth, since they were all false.
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from ComfortMyPeople in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?   
    I would just like to add:  If one studies the bible and interesting idea comes to the fore.  God did NOT want them to build cities so early after the flood - he told them to spread out!
    Nimrod was in opposition to Jehovah because he not only lead them to built 'many cities' in Babylon and Assyria (as indicated in genesis)  but started an empire.  Originally he hunted lions to keep people safe but became a leader and then became very powerful. In ancient Babylonian culture as well as the Assyrian culture, kings regularly hunted lions to prove their power as king.  Look at some of the Assyrian reliefs in the London Museum of antiquities.....(they are online). Later on ... they used to breed lions for the king to hunt. The word " Nimr " also has connections to the tiger. 
    Why was it wrong to build cities which we today call "civilization?"     It immediately divides peoples into a class system.  A ruler with his religious leaders to back him up (as in ancient Babylon) with the  religious order controlling many sectors of the economy such as grain storage etc. These religious leaders then built an entire system of worship around a person or persons.... and they controlled the wealth.  In my studies of ancient Babylon I soon realized that the zodiac was paramount in their religious system and superstition and spells were the order of the day.  They studied every movement of the stars and planets and their mathematical calculations were extremely advanced so that they could use it for predictions - for the king.  When to go to war -when to make alliances etc.   
    Within cities one also immediately gets diversification of permanent jobs...   The potter makes pottery (mass production); the cotton producer dies his material in massive urine dams.....   This not only leads to rich and poor but also brings dirt and disease in cities.  Hogs used to roam in Babylon's streets to clean up rubbish.   Massive food cultivation leads to depletion of the ground. 
    Today Babylon is arid because of the salt in the ground due to over irrigation by the irrigation channels.  They built a network of irrigation channels to cultivate crops.   Yes - and you get slaves - because the king needs people to do the hard labor of building water channels  and palaces etc.  And what about the building of walls for protection because more wealth brings greater chance of being attacked!   It seems to be a vicious circle!
     Jehovah called Abraham out of a 'city' where the moon god was prevalent as the chief deity.  City-states became the norm everywhere and many of these made war against each other.  Soon after Abraham left Ur - Ur was attacked and had major destruction! 
    Abraham trusted in Jehovah and had protection from him.  He also came out from the pantheon of Gods that were everywhere!  Babylon was famous for its shrines just like Rome had shrines everywhere to its gods.  Abraham looked forward to the 'city' of Jehovah (many city states had a king-priest because religion and the king were closely bound together.)
    I love reading about agriculture and have read that small, diversified farms are the best way to farm.  Diversity of animals and diversity of crops....  I think we will do this in the new system.   Hi rise cities may become something of the past!
    Yes, Babylon was responsible for many of the false teachings and most civilizations still adhere to many of its teachings in our modern era.  Fortunately - we only have to adhere to the bible to serve Jehovah well.  And while it is interesting to know where these things come from (1 Co 8:1 "now concerning food offered to idols....... knowledge puffs up.")  Knowledge of false religion is not the most important aspect of our worship to Jehovah. 
    Like good English - one does not learn bad English to know what is good - one learns good English and then one can discard bad English when it is spoken. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from The Librarian in President #DonaldTrump​ vows to “build a military might so great” that “none will...   
    America has trillions of dollars in debt - so where will he get the money for this?  Take it away from the programs for the poor I guess!   Watched a program recently which demonstrated how we have had a silent coo-de-dat of democracy by corporate America.... and how the poor is getting poorer.
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    Arauna reacted to TheWorldNewsOrg in Being ignored at work can be more damaging than being bullied....   
    Being ignored at work can be more damaging than being bullied. Studies show ignoring people is not only perceived to be more socially acceptable than bullying, but those who experience being ignored are more inclined to quit their jobs, have less morale, and suffer from more health problems, regardless of their job type. Source
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    Arauna got a reaction from JW Insider in UK, Australia, Canada & NZ tasked by CIA to use human spies (HUMINT) to penetrate last French...   
    One is naive if one does not think this is going on all the time! 
    I am of the opinion that WikiLeaks is being used as a pawn by some hostile/manipulative regimes to get information out only when they want it out!   I do not know if Assange has already realized this - or not!  The timing of some of his revelations are just too orchestrated.... or maybe he is manipulating things....
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    Arauna got a reaction from Bible Speaks in Doomsday Clock Inches Closer to Midnight – Now 2.5 Minutes   
    I read a few days ago that the number of Muslims in Europe is 50 million.  Now this may sound islamophobic but bear with me and you will get my point. 
    As true Christians we know that all false religions get actively involved in world politics (Rev 17 - 18).  The Christians who love their politics and guns voted for Trump and allowed their fear of Islamic terrorism (the need for "security" ) to influence their vote.  We also note that Russia was contacted prior to the elections and there is mounting evidence of them influencing the vote with false information..... I think Putin is trying to destabilize USA and Europe (he hates NATO).  Russia have only their own interests at heart - not a grain of benevolence there! 
    Russia annexed Georgia and part of Ukraine without the world doing anything - USA looks weak.  This has given Russia incentive to flex its muscles further by breaking prior agreements regarding the building of certain weapons.   They have also made alliances with Iran and now have access to ports in Syria.  China has also flexed its muscles by building islands in seas that previously did not belong to them.... and have built runways and ports on them.......so the world powers are all posturing like cocks.  The mega-ton nuclear bombs that Russia has, boggles the mind. 
    Trump indicated that he does not want to be part of NATO (but now has changed this thought)  because he dare not let go of his alliances.  It has been the alliances of America with the rest of the world (its bedfellows) that has kept the balance; for renegade nations were intimidated not to go too far to destabilize the order.   It would therefore be fatal for trump to isolate America and become inward-looking.
    Islam has taken the future Kingdom of Jehovah and it has made a false replica of this.  Islam (and all its eschatological beliefs) believe that Islam must expand to fill the earth and their version of law (Sharia law) must be instituted all over the earth to bring peace to the earth. We know this is a lie because Shiite and Sunni muslims hate each other.  They will work together and fight together to take over fast territories and then start fighting each other as soon as they have achieved this goal. (Syria is a good example of this, as is Yemen ).   Iran and Turkey are also vying with each other to establish the next Islamic caliphate - both treat their own people ruthlessly even though Iran purports to be a Theocracy.  (Many totalitarian states rising up - some like iron and some like clay - as in Europe)
    We have good evidence of how Sharia law works in Saudi Arabia  (they have been spreading Salafist ideology throughout the world in the last 30 years and many mosques in Europe and America belong to their front organizations.)  Pockets of no-go zones all over Europe and England have already been taken over by Sharia law - it has been allowed to rule without any restraint in these areas.  (83 areas in England and 55 in Sweden are two statistics that come to mind.) Women and children have no rights and men have more than one wife (and receive state benefits for up to 4 wives and their children with each wife!..).  Imams have more powers than the pope because they can call a death warrant on any Muslim or public figure which insults Islam.)
    My point is this:  If Europe is in any way destabilized by conflict .... it will create a vacuum wherein we will see the sudden rise of an ISIS- like organization in Europe and it will spread fast with much violence to Canada and many other countries -  just like it did in Iraq and Syria. The behavior we saw in Irak and Syria will be repeated..... but this time there will be no place for refugees to flee to.
    We are definitely in the time of the end - that is for sure.  Jehovah may put it into the heart of the political entities to turn against all religion before this clash of civilizations comes to Europe....But they first have to realize the security issues..... and so far they  seem to be 'blinded' and are adhering to resolutions given by the EU and UN. 
    Trump may be the man who will broker a peace deal in the middle east and proclaim far and wide that we now have "peace and security" - which will be false of course!  He has the right personality for it!  Sudden chaos will descend.  Governments will then take steps to curb religion.   No more recruiting / preaching and loyalty to your government comes first!  
    This is just speculation of course.....  But all I am sure of is this: the doomsday clock is moving closer to midnight than the secular world suspects. ...
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    Arauna reacted to Queen Esther in Doomsday Clock Inches Closer to Midnight – Now 2.5 Minutes   
    @Arauna  Thats similar my thinking too...  Soon we shall see it !  
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    Arauna got a reaction from Queen Esther in Doomsday Clock Inches Closer to Midnight – Now 2.5 Minutes   
    I read a few days ago that the number of Muslims in Europe is 50 million.  Now this may sound islamophobic but bear with me and you will get my point. 
    As true Christians we know that all false religions get actively involved in world politics (Rev 17 - 18).  The Christians who love their politics and guns voted for Trump and allowed their fear of Islamic terrorism (the need for "security" ) to influence their vote.  We also note that Russia was contacted prior to the elections and there is mounting evidence of them influencing the vote with false information..... I think Putin is trying to destabilize USA and Europe (he hates NATO).  Russia have only their own interests at heart - not a grain of benevolence there! 
    Russia annexed Georgia and part of Ukraine without the world doing anything - USA looks weak.  This has given Russia incentive to flex its muscles further by breaking prior agreements regarding the building of certain weapons.   They have also made alliances with Iran and now have access to ports in Syria.  China has also flexed its muscles by building islands in seas that previously did not belong to them.... and have built runways and ports on them.......so the world powers are all posturing like cocks.  The mega-ton nuclear bombs that Russia has, boggles the mind. 
    Trump indicated that he does not want to be part of NATO (but now has changed this thought)  because he dare not let go of his alliances.  It has been the alliances of America with the rest of the world (its bedfellows) that has kept the balance; for renegade nations were intimidated not to go too far to destabilize the order.   It would therefore be fatal for trump to isolate America and become inward-looking.
    Islam has taken the future Kingdom of Jehovah and it has made a false replica of this.  Islam (and all its eschatological beliefs) believe that Islam must expand to fill the earth and their version of law (Sharia law) must be instituted all over the earth to bring peace to the earth. We know this is a lie because Shiite and Sunni muslims hate each other.  They will work together and fight together to take over fast territories and then start fighting each other as soon as they have achieved this goal. (Syria is a good example of this, as is Yemen ).   Iran and Turkey are also vying with each other to establish the next Islamic caliphate - both treat their own people ruthlessly even though Iran purports to be a Theocracy.  (Many totalitarian states rising up - some like iron and some like clay - as in Europe)
    We have good evidence of how Sharia law works in Saudi Arabia  (they have been spreading Salafist ideology throughout the world in the last 30 years and many mosques in Europe and America belong to their front organizations.)  Pockets of no-go zones all over Europe and England have already been taken over by Sharia law - it has been allowed to rule without any restraint in these areas.  (83 areas in England and 55 in Sweden are two statistics that come to mind.) Women and children have no rights and men have more than one wife (and receive state benefits for up to 4 wives and their children with each wife!..).  Imams have more powers than the pope because they can call a death warrant on any Muslim or public figure which insults Islam.)
    My point is this:  If Europe is in any way destabilized by conflict .... it will create a vacuum wherein we will see the sudden rise of an ISIS- like organization in Europe and it will spread fast with much violence to Canada and many other countries -  just like it did in Iraq and Syria. The behavior we saw in Irak and Syria will be repeated..... but this time there will be no place for refugees to flee to.
    We are definitely in the time of the end - that is for sure.  Jehovah may put it into the heart of the political entities to turn against all religion before this clash of civilizations comes to Europe....But they first have to realize the security issues..... and so far they  seem to be 'blinded' and are adhering to resolutions given by the EU and UN. 
    Trump may be the man who will broker a peace deal in the middle east and proclaim far and wide that we now have "peace and security" - which will be false of course!  He has the right personality for it!  Sudden chaos will descend.  Governments will then take steps to curb religion.   No more recruiting / preaching and loyalty to your government comes first!  
    This is just speculation of course.....  But all I am sure of is this: the doomsday clock is moving closer to midnight than the secular world suspects. ...
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    Arauna got a reaction from Queen Esther in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?   
    I would just like to add:  If one studies the bible and interesting idea comes to the fore.  God did NOT want them to build cities so early after the flood - he told them to spread out!
    Nimrod was in opposition to Jehovah because he not only lead them to built 'many cities' in Babylon and Assyria (as indicated in genesis)  but started an empire.  Originally he hunted lions to keep people safe but became a leader and then became very powerful. In ancient Babylonian culture as well as the Assyrian culture, kings regularly hunted lions to prove their power as king.  Look at some of the Assyrian reliefs in the London Museum of antiquities.....(they are online). Later on ... they used to breed lions for the king to hunt. The word " Nimr " also has connections to the tiger. 
    Why was it wrong to build cities which we today call "civilization?"     It immediately divides peoples into a class system.  A ruler with his religious leaders to back him up (as in ancient Babylon) with the  religious order controlling many sectors of the economy such as grain storage etc. These religious leaders then built an entire system of worship around a person or persons.... and they controlled the wealth.  In my studies of ancient Babylon I soon realized that the zodiac was paramount in their religious system and superstition and spells were the order of the day.  They studied every movement of the stars and planets and their mathematical calculations were extremely advanced so that they could use it for predictions - for the king.  When to go to war -when to make alliances etc.   
    Within cities one also immediately gets diversification of permanent jobs...   The potter makes pottery (mass production); the cotton producer dies his material in massive urine dams.....   This not only leads to rich and poor but also brings dirt and disease in cities.  Hogs used to roam in Babylon's streets to clean up rubbish.   Massive food cultivation leads to depletion of the ground. 
    Today Babylon is arid because of the salt in the ground due to over irrigation by the irrigation channels.  They built a network of irrigation channels to cultivate crops.   Yes - and you get slaves - because the king needs people to do the hard labor of building water channels  and palaces etc.  And what about the building of walls for protection because more wealth brings greater chance of being attacked!   It seems to be a vicious circle!
     Jehovah called Abraham out of a 'city' where the moon god was prevalent as the chief deity.  City-states became the norm everywhere and many of these made war against each other.  Soon after Abraham left Ur - Ur was attacked and had major destruction! 
    Abraham trusted in Jehovah and had protection from him.  He also came out from the pantheon of Gods that were everywhere!  Babylon was famous for its shrines just like Rome had shrines everywhere to its gods.  Abraham looked forward to the 'city' of Jehovah (many city states had a king-priest because religion and the king were closely bound together.)
    I love reading about agriculture and have read that small, diversified farms are the best way to farm.  Diversity of animals and diversity of crops....  I think we will do this in the new system.   Hi rise cities may become something of the past!
    Yes, Babylon was responsible for many of the false teachings and most civilizations still adhere to many of its teachings in our modern era.  Fortunately - we only have to adhere to the bible to serve Jehovah well.  And while it is interesting to know where these things come from (1 Co 8:1 "now concerning food offered to idols....... knowledge puffs up.")  Knowledge of false religion is not the most important aspect of our worship to Jehovah. 
    Like good English - one does not learn bad English to know what is good - one learns good English and then one can discard bad English when it is spoken. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Melinda Mills in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?   
    I treat Modern scholars with more caution - after all - money and grants have taken over all sciences. Global corporations have their fingers in all the pies.   (We have had a silent coo-de-dat of the democratic system by global corporations!)
    Most of the gods of Babylon received a new name in Greece; most of the gods of the Grecian empire received new names under the Roman dispensation; and they received a make-over when many of them were incorporated into the catholic empire.  I remember studying the Harappa culture (Indus valley - originally in India) after I had gained a good understanding of Sumer and ancient Babylon and I was amazed at the number of similarities! 
    If one looks at Babylonian architecture you will also find similarities with early architecture in Greece!  This was not the only part of the civilization that was exported from Babylon.... however, each geological area added their own flavor to the gods.
     
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    Arauna reacted to ARchiv@L in St Valentine and Nimrod the Same God Worshiped?   
    the celebrations because of "love" had nothing to do with actuall love or agape.
    all celebrations included eʹros,=love between the sexes.
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200002781?q=agape&p=par#h=5
    (see also images above)
     
    Babylonian Deities.
    After the death of Nimrod, the Babylonians reasonably would have been inclined to hold him in high regard as the founder and builder and first king of their city and as the organizer of the original Babylonian Empire.
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=9
     
    Origin of Gods and Goddesses. 
    The striking similarity readily observable when comparing the gods and goddesses of ancient peoples can hardly be attributed to chance. Concerning this, J. Garnier writes: “Not merely Egyptians, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Greeks and Romans, but also the Hindus, the Buddhists of China and of Thibet, the Goths, Anglo-Saxons, Druids, Mexicans and Peruvians, the Aborigines of Australia, and even the savages of the South Sea Islands, must have all derived their religious ideas from a common source and a common centre. Everywhere we find the most startling coincidences in rites, ceremonies, customs, traditions, and in the names and relations of their respective gods and goddesses.”—The Worship of the Dead, London, 1904, p. 3.
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=6
     
     
    Tradition has it that Nimrod died a violent death. 
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=9
    ....the religions of many ancient peoples included the worship of a god placed in the role of a benefactor who dies a violent death on earth and then is restored to life.
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=8
     
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    give me some more time if I can find MORE SIMILARITIES !
    thank you
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    A number of scholars have linked Anahita with the Babylonian Ishtar. 
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=37
     
     
    Grecian Deities. 
    An examination of the gods and goddesses of ancient Greece reveals the traces of Babylonian influence. 
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001732#h=41
    Origins
    The name Lupercalia was believed in antiquity to evince some connection with the Ancient Greek festival of ....
    ...whom the Greeks call Pan (see image above) from @Bible Speaks
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupercalia
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from JayDubya in The Timeline of Creation ?????   
    Just like to add:  the water was on the earth already before the creative 'day/period'   1/one,  when the earth was desolate and dark because Jehovah's spirit was moving over the waters;  to  me, it has always been logical that the earth had a very long cooling off period after the physical heavens and earth were created because this cooling down process was responsible for the water and dense vapor which Jehovah then subsequently divided on day 2.
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Queen Esther in The Timeline of Creation ?????   
    Just like to add:  the water was on the earth already before the creative 'day/period'   1/one,  when the earth was desolate and dark because Jehovah's spirit was moving over the waters;  to  me, it has always been logical that the earth had a very long cooling off period after the physical heavens and earth were created because this cooling down process was responsible for the water and dense vapor which Jehovah then subsequently divided on day 2.
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from ComfortMyPeople in A nice preaching idea in Stockholm, SWEDEN !   
    I spoke with a Swedish sister yesterday while on field service.  She said that the Swedes NEVER talk about religion - it is a taboo in their culture.  Many Swedes are secularist.   The sister took quite long to become active because she could not tell her parents that she wanted to be a witness and she still cannot speak to them about Jehovah because it is taboo in their family to speak about any aspect of any religion.  So I find these brothers advertising their faith so loud very encouraging and brave!
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    Arauna reacted to Bible Speaks in The Timeline of Creation ?????   
    THE TIME LINE OF CREATION THE BEGINNING
    The material heavens and earth are created.—Genesis 1:1.
    DARKNESS
    The earth is formless, desolate, and dark.—Genesis 1:2.
    FIRST DAY
    Diffused light evidently penetrates the earth’s atmosphere. If there had been any observer on the surface of the earth, the sources of light would have been imperceptible to him. Yet, the difference between night and day became discernible.—Genesis 1:3-5.
    SECOND DAY
    The earth is covered with water and a dense mantle of vapor. These two elements are separated, creating a gap between the watery surface and the canopy of vapor. The Bible describes this space as “an expanse between the waters,” and calls it “Heaven.”—Genesis 1:6-8.
    THIRD DAY
    Surface water subsides and dry ground appears. The atmosphere clears up to allow more sunlight to reach the ground. Some vegetation appears, with new species sprouting through the third and subsequent creative days.—Genesis 1:9-13.
    FOURTH DAY
    The sun and moon become discernible from the earth’s surface.—Genesis 1:14-19.
    FIFTH DAY
    God creates underwater creatures and flying creatures in great numbers with the ability to procreate within their kinds.—Genesis 1:20-23.
    SIXTH DAY
    Land animals are created, both large and small. The sixth day culminates with a masterpiece of God’s physical creation: the first human couple.—Genesis 1:24-31.
    IMG_6775.mov
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    Arauna reacted to JW Insider in ALLAH – the Moon God   
    I assume a lot of other people already knew this, but I didn't. Thanks for sharing it. I even have a copy of Satanic Verses on a bookshelf, but never cracked it open.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in Nigerian Jehovah Witness Allegedly Dies Of Excess Bleeding During Child Birth Because Church Doesn’t Permit Blood Transfusion ! This is just so sad ;-(   
    Hypocritical how this world under the control of Stan works.  Nigeria is famous for having little respect for life when the elite is living off all the riches of oil and many of their  poor dying when they try to pilfer oil.  Extreme corruption in Nigeria - read up about it.
    When the Chibok girls were abducted by Boko Haram the government did nothing to fetch them back .... because they did not care!
    Boko Haram is threatening to take over the country and is responsible for so many terrorist deaths. Attacks which are not reported on in the West.  Under extreme Islam some women are not even allowed to get medical treatment without the permission of a male.... but this is never disclosed or written about......
    However,  it is advertised  far and wide when it is 'alleged' that someone died because they themselves refused blood against the advice of a doctor and in obedience to a law they believe to be coming from the true god. All loss of life is sad yet there are still many reasons one can lose your life in childbirth today.  In the end it is always the refusing of blood that is given as the reason.
    Africa has so much aids and other virusses (Nigeria has the 2nd largest number of newly infected people with aids) that I would not trust any pint of blood in this most notorious country in Africa - notorious for its financial and all other kinds of corruption.
    What were her chances for living if she had taken the blood?  Life expectancy is not very high for babies  in Nigeria and very few people get very old...  Better to trust in Jehovah and not in these corrupt systems of the world  - which do not care about their own people!  She has become a propaganda pawn in someone's agenda!
    At least Jehovah will reward all those who remain faithful.  He will compensate us for what we have lost in this corrupt world for the sake of obedience to his standards!
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in Biblical King Hezekiah Official Seal Found in Ancient Trash Dump - 2,700-year-old... (video)   
    A lot of people debunk things when it does not agree with their vision.  It is like the "science" offered these days which proves that humans have a hand in the climate change and other studies which give proof that it is bunk - and in the meantime there are countries and whole areas that is going under water while the scientific "debate" and scientific proofs are still being offered to prove it is not happening.... Russia is using new sea lanes in seas that previously were covered in ice - there is also a race for territory under the sea to explore for oil.... in new territories where they never thought they would explore.
    So I must offer the thought that I do not really put my trust in science - or the humans behind it.  I do not put blind faith in humans and their so-called knowledge because one does not know when it has been tainted with an agenda.  Really too much misinformation these days.... conflicting studies all over the place and many have been caught out as manipulating their results.
    One does not have to throw everything away though - and neither do I throw all away that Hyslop wrote - that would not be smart - even if it is just to get an idea what the universal thoughts behind some of the signs were. He was smart enough to tie ancient Babylon and Sumerian culture to many of the ideas in modern Babylon - which is agreed upon by the author of the bible, Jehovah,  because he himself calls the empire: Babylon the Great. Many of the spiritistic ideas in many modern religions on earth today came from that area.
    There are many scientists who agree with the new chronology in Egyptology.  But unfortunately they are not allowed into the country any more.  If you do not agree with the' prevailing consensus' then you are marked as a pseudo-scientist.  Champollion was not a good scientist either because he was an archeologist when the science was in it infancy and yet his ideas are accepted as laid in stone/ concrete.... and other scientists have built on it.  The problem lies right at the foundation of Egyptology....and when one builds on a wrong foundation then one gets the mess we are sitting with at present.
    Two people who come to mind who did not agree with the new ideas offered by younger scientists were Einstein (later in his life he rejected some excellent new ideas); and Hawkins -  but we still view them as icons for the work they did do. There are still some very good thoughts in Hyslop's book.... but of course there were religions that did not like it and set out to discredit him - so they wrote their own pseudo-science.
    I am glad you agree with me on one thing - that there were universal symbols for many things which was accepted by many countries.  A good example today is the wedding ring - originally pagan - but we still use it as a symbol to show that we are married.  Some countries they wear it on the left hand and in other on the right....This does not mean that we are pagans.  Since it does not involve pagan  rituals or participation in pagan rituals it has evolved as a universal symbol -  we accept it as a sign of marriage. Same with the days of the month.   We cannot throw absolutely everything out of the window - we are still in this world and we share it with people who do not believe in God. But we can remain clean by not participating in pagan rituals and stay away from inter-faith.
    I do appreciate chatting with you though but I do not like debates - it does not serve an edifying purpose. 
     
     
      
    I would just like to add: I do not need science to prove that the Bible is a message from the creator.  There are too many prophesies going into fulfillment at present which give proof that the writings of the bible has a higher source....
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    Arauna got a reaction from SuzA in Nigerian Jehovah Witness Allegedly Dies Of Excess Bleeding During Child Birth Because Church Doesn’t Permit Blood Transfusion ! This is just so sad ;-(   
    Hypocritical how this world under the control of Stan works.  Nigeria is famous for having little respect for life when the elite is living off all the riches of oil and many of their  poor dying when they try to pilfer oil.  Extreme corruption in Nigeria - read up about it.
    When the Chibok girls were abducted by Boko Haram the government did nothing to fetch them back .... because they did not care!
    Boko Haram is threatening to take over the country and is responsible for so many terrorist deaths. Attacks which are not reported on in the West.  Under extreme Islam some women are not even allowed to get medical treatment without the permission of a male.... but this is never disclosed or written about......
    However,  it is advertised  far and wide when it is 'alleged' that someone died because they themselves refused blood against the advice of a doctor and in obedience to a law they believe to be coming from the true god. All loss of life is sad yet there are still many reasons one can lose your life in childbirth today.  In the end it is always the refusing of blood that is given as the reason.
    Africa has so much aids and other virusses (Nigeria has the 2nd largest number of newly infected people with aids) that I would not trust any pint of blood in this most notorious country in Africa - notorious for its financial and all other kinds of corruption.
    What were her chances for living if she had taken the blood?  Life expectancy is not very high for babies  in Nigeria and very few people get very old...  Better to trust in Jehovah and not in these corrupt systems of the world  - which do not care about their own people!  She has become a propaganda pawn in someone's agenda!
    At least Jehovah will reward all those who remain faithful.  He will compensate us for what we have lost in this corrupt world for the sake of obedience to his standards!
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Enrique Camacho in ALLAH – the Moon God   
    I have read so many books by the earliest and some of the modern archeologists (I had a massive collection of books and had to leave a few behind when I moved to Sweden) about the connection of moon worship to ancient Sumer and the entire middle east - even in Canaan.  I later read the Qur'an, Hadith and Siri  and studied Islam because all the original evidence pointed to this moon worship when I read about Ur and Harran and Tema in Arabia. This is how I started studying the Arabic language and I now preach in the Arabic field - mostly to muslim refugees.
    I speak the truth when I say that I absolutely love Arabic speaking people but I also promote TRUTH and I therefore have a desire to free as many people as possible from one of the most oppressive and unjust ideologies/religions around today - which had its origins in pagan and moon worship.
    I am sorry to say that in the academic world it has become fashion to bend the research to deny that Allah is in fact the moon god. In fact, most of the middle east departments of most universities in Europe and USA has been taken over by Islamo-philiacs who turn out  fake studies that deny the core beliefs of islam as set out in the Qur'an and Hadith.
    In fact, one is not allowed to say anything about Allah and Islam any more because Resolution 18-20 of the UN forbids it! Hence the popularity of the word: Islamophobia.  I watch all the news about developments in this field because Islam is part of Babylon the Great and will soon be destroyed.  30,000 terror attacks that has taken place all over the world since 9/11 and many have not been reported as Islam-inspired attacks in the media because left-politicians want their vote!.  It is the world's largest religion and is riding the beast (just as other religions are controlling the political systems).  Soon the political system will tire of religion and turn against all of them..... because the "security" of the world is being threatened by the radicalized version of most religions - which  is spreading. Far right Christians, who love their guns, voted for Trump!
    UNESCO (UN heritage council) has gone so far that they have officially said that Jews and Christians have NO historical connection to Jerusalem! at all!  The historical records that exist to prove this -  are no longer valid!  Look it up on internet and this is definitely not false news!
    This is how nutty and crazy the world has become.  But I do not need archeology to prove the connection of the Arabs with Moon worship, here is the biblical proof:  The Bible talks of Ishmael. The mother of Ishmael was Egyptian and Ishmael married an Egyptian woman according to the bible.  Midian and Ishmael were both offspring of Abraham and they sold Joseph to Potiphar in Egypt. They were merchants that moved in caravans. 
    Midianites and the Ishmaelite's are mentioned in the Bible as being very close (read Ishmaelite in the insight book)  The 6 sons that Keturah had also intermarried with these tribes and eventually became the Arab peoples.  Keturah was the concubine of Abraham after Sarah died.  She had 6 sons. (Gen 25)  Abraham sent them away with gifts and his son Isaac (by his legitimate wife Sarah) inherited the right to bring forth the messiah from his line of decent.... which would be the true prophet/ messenger of Allah  -  because Jesus  has a genealogy of 4025 years.
    Mohammad, who claimed to come from Ishmael, has NO historical genealogy to speak of except the short one given in the bible. So he is THE messenger of god only by his own word.  Mohammad claimed to come from Ishmael to try to legitimize his decent from Abraham and link himself as the last prophet from God - especially when he lived with 3 Jewish tribes in Jathrib (Medina) and wanted them to accept his as a prophet.  He killed between 600-900 of them (as spies) after they rejected his prophet hood.  Muslims today try to claim the Bible has been altered and that Jehovah is ALLAH. (This I can easily refute by the history of islam, the history of the city of Mecca as well as the Bible itself.)
    What is interesting is the jewelry worn by the Ishmaelites and Midianites.... and many scriptures in the bible indicate that these peoples were viewed as one tribe because these two names are interchanged often. Judges 8: 22 & 26 speaks of the gold nose rings and the "crescent-shaped" ornaments which seemed to be numerous.  These crescent -shaped ornaments are mentioned in 3 different places in the bible and are two of them specifically associated with Midian and Ishmael. The other scriptures proves how prevalent this worship was in the middle east as Jehovah shows how he hates it.
    Moses also wrote in Job 31: 26-28 that it was an act of idolatry to kiss the hand to the moon because this practice was prevalent already in the time of Moses/Job  amongst moon worshipers. Job lived in the land of Uz (Arabia).
     
    Another proof about moon worship is the Qur'an itself: I forgot to add information about the fatwah (order to kill) against indian writer: Salman Rushdie.  He wrote in his book about he Satanic verses which refer to Allat, Uzza and Manat:
    (Excerpt from Wikipedia for your information:) "[V]ehement protest against Rushdie's book" began with the title itself. The title refers to a legend of the Prophet Mohammad, when a few verses were supposedly spoken by him as part of the Qur'an, and then withdrawn on the grounds that the devil had sent them to deceive Mohammad into thinking they came from God. These "Satanic Verses" are found in verses eighteen to twenty-two in suraht An-Najim of the Qur'an,[14] and by accounts from Tabari, but is seldom mentioned in the first biography of Mohammad by Ibn Ishaq. The verses also appear in other accounts of the prophet's life. They permitted prayer to three pre-Islamic Meccan goddesses: Al-lāt, Uzza, and Manāt—a violation of monotheism.[
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    Arauna got a reaction from Ann O'Maly in Biblical King Hezekiah Official Seal Found in Ancient Trash Dump - 2,700-year-old... (video)   
    I am not an expert on this but I would like to stipulate that it most probably sealed a message that was never sent out as it was found in the rubbish dump.  It could have been a diplomatic letter to Egypt and we are not sure if it was the particular seal for a diplomatic mission to this specific country - letters would have had different seals to identify letters going out to different parts of the world. So it would not be the ONLY seal of the king - it would designate it to be official diplomatic business.
    Just as the international diplomatic language originally was Akkadian, then Aramaic, then Greek and then Latin - there were also certain international symbols that had universal meaning.  The horn came to symbolize suzerainty (power) and wings symbolized the extent of the power.  As I said I am not an expert on this but it gives one something to investigate and follow up on.
    Consequently - one must not be quick to jump to conclusions about the unfaithfulness of Hezekiah.  Remember that he was not a perfect servant of Jehovah and he was definitely not living in a vacuum. Most probably he regularly had diplomats from countries around him (even from afar for trade agreements and security for the transport of goods to his country etc) and sent diplomats to countries around him to maintain good relations.  
    The world was a complicated place and international relations just as difficult to maintain as today.  Wars could suddenly come from unforeseen places, especially those empires with imperialistic tendencies and Sennacherib was terrifying (he was exceptionally cruel to the subjected peoples (cutting off body parts and flaying) and also cut off all the fruit trees and stopped up wells wherever he prevailed.  He ruled with terror - leaving the conquered areas with no food resources.
    One could even speculate that this was a letter asking Egypt to assist Hezekiah - because the surrounding countries and cities had already been invaded long before Sennacherib came to Jerusalem.......   Hezekiah could have planned to sent out a secret message but decided to trash it and to trust only in Jehovah instead.  He had already paid tribute to Sennacherib but this king wanted total humiliation and most probably would have expected him to bow to his gods.  His name indicates moon worship.
     A few years back I read a translation of a tablet wherein it was written that the Assyrian army suddenly died out from 'pestilence'.  That was their explanation for what happened to their soldiers.  It also was faith strengthening to realize that this really happened.
    The Insight book under 'Sennacherib' gives a fascinating insight into the history of this battle.  It must have been a nightmare for king Hezekiah and one can understand his fear and humility when he went before Jehovah to pray for help.  I love this prayer he made.
     
    The seal would be indicating that the message came from a peaceful king.
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from The Librarian in UK prepares ‘WikiLeaks Act’ to ban national security journalism. criminalizing even...   
    This is why there is so much false information and speculation around because journalists may no longer investigate and publish the truth any more. They are controlled by newspapers who have an agenda. Now the UN and many governments are becoming protectionist to "perceived treats".   Journalists are supposed to uncover the truth an keep governments honest.... (not that I agree with what Wiki leaks has done in the past.)
    We are entering a type of fascistic era where information is controlled tightly - setting the scene for governments to do what they like.  It is an ideal climate for governments to turn against religion and spread whatever information they like about a religion. Russia at moment doing this - demonizing Jehovah's people as extremist
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from JW Insider in UK prepares ‘WikiLeaks Act’ to ban national security journalism. criminalizing even...   
    This is why there is so much false information and speculation around because journalists may no longer investigate and publish the truth any more. They are controlled by newspapers who have an agenda. Now the UN and many governments are becoming protectionist to "perceived treats".   Journalists are supposed to uncover the truth an keep governments honest.... (not that I agree with what Wiki leaks has done in the past.)
    We are entering a type of fascistic era where information is controlled tightly - setting the scene for governments to do what they like.  It is an ideal climate for governments to turn against religion and spread whatever information they like about a religion. Russia at moment doing this - demonizing Jehovah's people as extremist
     
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    Arauna reacted to Queen Esther in Biblical King Hezekiah Official Seal Found in Ancient Trash Dump - 2,700-year-old... (video)   
    Biblical King Hezekiah Official Seal Found in Ancient Trash Dump...
    A 2,700-year-old royal seal bearing the mark of the biblical King Hezekiah has been unearthed in Jerusalem. The tiny oval piece of clay bears the impression of a sun with two wings turned downward, flanked by two ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs that symbolize 'life'.
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