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Thanks for the update @Srecko Sostar Does the GB blush out of embarrassment over any of this? Nope. Jer 8:11,12

I see that what 4Jah2me said, went right over your head. Your eyes are entirely focused on 8 men who would just as soon keep you locked in their pen and deceitfully coerce you into “donating” to their corrupt organization. (Ps 140:5) Jesus said, “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.” Matt 5 Those part of the heavenly city, "New Jerusalem", the anointed, who are members of Christ’s Body, are to share his light – of TRUTH. (Gal 4:26; Heb 12:22) The living Temple of God is truth, with its foundation established on the teachings of Christ and the apostles. (Eph 2:20-22) The organization is a counterfeit that pretends to be that “truth”. Yet, it is the anointed, who are to be the light of the world today, as ambassadors of Christ. (2 Cor 5:20) Your sole concern and vision, is in the GB, who have dictated their silence. Why? To suppress truth. To kill those in Christ. (Rev 13:15) The GB’s band of thieves/elders enforce this decree. (Acts 20:29; 2 Cor 11:3; Matt 24:24,25, 48-51) (John 10:1,10; 2 Thess 2:3,4) No Arauna, the rebels are the eight men, whom you cannot see as the primary wolves squelching the light of TRUTH each anointed one is to share. Do you really believe the true wolves would write a book against the GB, and publish it for everyone to read? No, the authentic wolves would appear as sheep among the flock, and gain the trust of all in the herd. “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. (teachings) Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Matt 7:15,16 "For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking misleading things, to draw away the disciples after themselves." Acts 20:29 It is a "misleading thing" to tell the anointed to shut up and conform to an earthly organization's rules and regulations that guard its need for "unity". Can't you see that the organization is not the Temple of God? (1 Pet 2:5-9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) Was there any entity during the time of the early temple period that was accepted above and beyond the established form of worship? Your focus has been side-swiped to believe in an earthly "established" form of worship today, through "Jehovah's organization", instead of seeing the spiritual Temple built with anointed "living stones". It is a very sly move on the part of Satan. “However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says: ‘Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. What house will you build for Me? says the Lord, Or what is the place of My rest?' Acts 7:48,49 "God who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent" Acts 17:24,29,30 (And yes, an anointing is the outpouring of Holy Spirit which takes up residence in the heart as God’s dwelling. (1 Cor 3:16,17; Acts 2:17; 1 John 2:27) The anointed ‘necessarily’ DO have more holy spirit than anyone else…for a reason – to teach the light of Christ to those who thirst for it. (Mat 2:7; Heb 8:10) Those individuals are also blessed by God's Holy Spirit, allowing their eyes to open the real TRUTH.) How blind you are. Unbeknownst to Furuli, I believe he is setting the stage for the fulfillment of scripture. The “false prophet”/GB will be ousted by the composite organization of elders, along with rebel anointed ones, who would rather fork over their “crown”, for riches in this life, and not with Jesus Christ in God's Kingdom. Rev 17:12-18 It is not by happenstance that the anointed have always gathered in the WT organization. (Rev 16:13,14; 20:7-10) Satan demands to test each one, as “wheat”. (Luke 22:31) I’m not sure if I have shared this quote from the WT, but it bears repeating: “Just as a boss of organized crime might oversee many illegal operations—drugs, prostitution, theft, gambling, smuggling, and so forth—without personally revealing himself to all his underlings, so Satan uses an organization to control far more people than he could by himself alone. His strategy? Besides harassing individuals, he and the demons treat masses of people as if they were a herd of cattle. No need to direct each one personally. Simply turn a few at the head of the herd, and the majority will follow. Then concentrate on the strays.” G90 1/8 pp 12-13 We have been provided a personal peek into the devious ways Satan misleads “THE ELECT/SAINTS” in the last days – through an organization that “makes war” with them and spiritually "kills" anyone who stand up against it. Rev 13:7,15 http://pearl-satansthrone.blogspot.com/

Like the GB, maybe? Every scripture that you gave us to support the traits of narcissism, can be directed to them. Perhaps majority of the elder body are narcissists also?

So, the "king of the north" has a soft heart after all? “Gradually, Russia and its allies emerged as the king of the north. As discussed in the preceding article, for a government to fill the role of the king of the north or the king of the south, it must do three things: (1) interact directly with God’s people, (2) show by its actions that it is an enemy of Jehovah and his people, and (3) compete with the rival king.” WT 5/2020

I do, but not according to YOUR way.

Of course I'm not serious about it. Dear SM, what I'm trying to tell you is the same thing I've said before many times to you. My focus is on my people in the organization, not on the political, religious movements in the world. I don't care about left, right, right center bias, or center right bias. Yes, I admit WT has its fingers in politics when it is advantageous toward their cause, but my interest is in their complete denial to follow God's words in Christ.

I'm not a political person. I cannot share your insatiable appetite for what you speak about. I've already explained myself and that will have to do. But! Out of coincidence, my son sent me a video the very day "left", "right", showed up on this topic! I'll share the video with you. And that's as far as I will go with it. By the way, I noticed you didn't address the fact that the redress scheme has been rejected by the WT.

That's a good point. If this is "Jehovah's organization", why isn't running smoothly? If they practice "pure worship", why isn't the organization thriving in every way? When the people under Moses walked the desert for 40 years, something as minor as what they wore on their feet, never wore out. Since the organization continually compares itself to God's nation during the time of Moses, would God allow a financial deficit to impede the work of His organization? Or, is this deficit the underhanded work of thieves? "I am the gate. Those who enter the sheep pen through me will be saved. They will go in and out of the sheep pen and find food. 10 A thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. But I came so that my sheep will have life and so that they will have everything they need." John 10:9,10

The question is, will their embarrassment at the most recent action made by their organization to reject the redress scheme, prick their conscience enough to leave? Dedication, fear and blindness is so entrenched in their minds, I have my doubts. "No fear exists where His love is. Rather, perfect love gets rid of fear, because fear involves punishment. The person who lives in fear doesn’t have perfect love." 1 John 4:18 As the video Srecko posted reveals, the GB does not make their decisions based on love for the congregation. Even at their level, they also harbor fear, of losing their riches...their empire.

Granted, it is out of place, but I think what pushed this button was your comment on another topic, regarding someone as part of “mainstream Christianity”. Your view on what is “truth” and who is practicing it, is foreign to what the WT believes. You tend to rally forth for a religion that does not share your dissection of Trinitarians vs Nontrinitarians, and lumping the WT in with “restorationists” – “The Great Christian Awakening”. Since the first century, there have always been “awake” believers in Christ. It doesn’t take a visible, organized religious “movement” in the form of “organization” and according to men’s plan, to reveal truth. Zech 4:6 You have an earthly view of religion and how to practice it, and that is your choice. Personally, I feel it contradicts worshiping “in spirit and truth”. John 4:21-24 My focus remains on the Watchtower and "Israel" inside. (Matt 10:23; Rev 11:1-3) This corrupt organization which holds the minds of people captive, fulfills Revelation's prophesy. (Luke 21:24; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10)

Thank you for your warning, but the bottom line is, it very well could be true. And, I should remind you, I am not interested in "mainstream religion", in the least. My focus is on the Watchtower and the people inside.

w54 4/1 pp. 216-223 Christ Jesus was enthroned in heaven as King in 1914, and he has work to do from that year until Armageddon. ... This period of time is known as “the day of Jehovah.” By abandoning - silencing - the Temple members of his body. The apostasy is allowing "Gentiles" (the elder body) to "sit" in God's Temple - to rule over them. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) "He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits in God’s temple, proclaiming that he himself is God." 2 Thess 2:4 Rejecting God's priests and Christ's anointed brothers, is apostasy.

“Then the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea. When they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.” Acts 11:10,11 Everything anyone teaches us from the Bible, should be backed up by the word of God. That should be our mindset, don't you think? Timothy, are you defending a name given to a group of people, by a man? Was Mr. Rutherford inspired when he announced that all members of a new organization were to be called “Jehovah’s Witnesses”? Well no, the man who said that all the ancient patriarchs would be resurrected and live in a house in San Diego, was not inspired. The man who said Armageddon would arrive in 1925, was speaking delusions of his own mind, wasn’t he. (Lam 2:14; Jer 23:26) He borrowed a scripture that applies to God’s chosen anointed priesthood: “You are my witnesses,” declares Yahweh, “and my servant whom I have chosen so that you may know and believe in me and understand that I am he. No god was formed before me, and none shall be after me. I myself am Yahweh, and there is no savior besides Me! 12 I myself declared and saved, and I proclaimed. And there was no strange god among you. And you are my witnesses,” declares Yahweh, “and I am God.” Isa 43:10-12 Lexham Bible “And you yourselves, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s possession, so that you may proclaim the virtues of the one who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light, 10 who once were not a people, but now are the people of God, the ones who were not shown mercy, but now are shown mercy” 1 Pet 2:5,9 Between those verses, Jesus is spoken as the precious chief cornerstone of God’s Temple, (John 2:19-22 ) The anointed priests are "living stones" of that temple. JF Rutherford rejected God’s temple arrangement, by spearheading an earthly organization and calling everyone who became a member, God’s chosen witnesses. Has the chief cornerstone become a stumbling block to your leaders, who praise an invented organization and suppress the “living stones” of God’s spiritual “organization”/Temple? Have they changed the meaning of scripture? For it stands in scripture, “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 7 Therefore the honor is for you who believe, but for those who refuse to believe, “The stone that the builders rejected, this one has become the cornerstone,” 8 and “A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense,” who stumble because they disobey the word to which also they were consigned.” Consigned – appointed. Each one of your anointed members is to teach you about this Temple, and about God and His Son. They are not to proclaim the virtues of an earthly organization which has become a “strange god among you”, and that promises you and everyone who remains in it, salvation. If these “living stones” are told to stay in the background, to be humble and submissive to 8 men and their own “priests” who now rule over them, what do you think God feels about the actions of His chosen witnesses? (Mal 2:7; Dan 8:11;11:31; Mark 13:14) “For there is no good tree that produces bad fruit, nor on the other hand a bad tree that produces good fruit, 44 for each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thorn plants, nor are grapes harvested from thorn bushes. 45 The good person out of the good treasury of his heart brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasury brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.” Luke 6:43-45 Your leaders continue to mislead you about who the “chosen” witnesses of God, really are. Are they teaching you “good fruit”, or utilizing a lie gleaned from a deep seated, evil treasury they’ve stored up in their hearts? “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” Matt 24:24 elect – chosen Are you serving God properly if you ignore His temple arrangement, and who His true "witnesses" are...and instead, honor a "god of fortresses"? Dan 11:38 https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/who-are-yhwhs-witnesses.html

“It is one thing to be ignorant, it is quite another to be ignorant by choice.” I thought of your comment when seeing this short video:

What website? You claim it is right-centered bias, but have given no examples.

If you trust that the WT intends to join in the redress scheme at the last minute (deadline June 30), you may be the one who is pretty naive. "The Australian Government expects every institution in which the sexual abuse of children occurred to be accountable for that abuse and join the National Redress Scheme (the Scheme) and provide redress. The Australian Government and all state and territory governments have agreed that institutions named in the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse report or named in an application received by the Scheme must provide a clear written statement setting out their intention to join the Scheme by no later than 30 June 2020. These institutions will be expected to join as soon as possible, but no later than 31 December 2020. This additional time reflects the maximum time needed to complete the on-boarding process and recognises the reduced capacity of many institutions due to the coronavirus pandemic. If by 30 June 2020 an institution has failed to signify its intention to join the Scheme, it will be immediately publicly identified by the Scheme in accordance with Scheme legislation and jurisdictions will consider other appropriate action. This may include financial sanctions applied by state, territory or Commonwealth governments, and changes to an organisation's charitable status. Naming institutions is necessary to ensure that people wanting to access the Scheme know the status of relevant institutions." https://www.nationalredress.gov.au/institutions/institutions-have-not-yet-joined As of May 28th, the WT had no intention of joining in. https://www.nationalredress.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2020-05/institutions-not-yet-joined-scheme-update-28-may-2020.pdf It looks like the lost, abused sheep are just not that important to the organization. Money takes priority.

That’s actually a very sobering thought. It truly is a “war” between truth and lies. Jesus rides on the side of God’s Truth (Rev 19:11), not “truth” as defined by men who lean on a few valid and truthful doctrines, but spout off a plethora of false ones. (Rev 19:19) Yet, it is only God’s truth and righteousness, that will win out in the end. (Rev 19:20,21) “Look, I am coming soon, and my reward is with me to repay each person according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. 14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by the gates. 15 Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood." Rev 22:12-15

When these stories emerge, why do JWs continue to tolerate an organization that closes its eyes to its own sins, while exalting itself above all other organizations in the world? What keeps JWs from walking away? Fear? Obligation to men? Do they think that such filth could ever be connected to God and Jesus? If we know God does not condone such atrocities, why would we? Why would we allow our heart to be influenced by men who create the atrocities by their rules and doctrine? Adam and Eve committed one grave sin against God. They rejected His warning, and they lost their chance of living eternally under God’s care. They turned away from God, to listen to the father of the lie. How many sins has the organization committed over and over again? Every sin is a rejection of God’s decrees through Christ. If we are to ever become sinless, should we remain in an atmosphere where sin thrives? Eph 2:1-3 God does not change, but men do, who easily dismiss their sins without apology, without repentance. They make humorous excuses instead. They believe they can rewrite the meaning of Christ’s teachings. They can convince millions that Jesus is the “head” of corruption, of an organization in the realm of Satan, the enemy of Jesus Christ. For those who continue to support this organization of sin and lies, what is wrong with their hearts? JWs are a stubborn people, afraid to move from their false comfort of “peace and security”, and stand for decency and righteousness. 1 Thess 5:1-3; Rev 18:4-8 https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/08/whats-wrong-with-peace-and-security.html

"Liquidating the Master's Belongings"??

"A News Corp investigation into the global Christian sect Jehovah's Witnesses has revealed they have allegedly pushed cash offshore to avoid paying compensation to Australian child sex abuse victims." https://www.news.com.au/national/special-investigation-into-jehovahs-witnesses/video/a334969a3052132c8cab3c94ccc4925e

To me, these are like clues, or pieces of a puzzle that when put together reveal a wicked slave who “beats” down his fellow servants, the anointed. Matt 24:48-51 If JWs could only see that this organization is eradicating a spiritual nation – God’s “Israel”. Scriptures tell us, that the anointed since Christ never faced a Beast that spiritually judges them. They never gave their allegiance to it, by becoming “marked” by it. (Rev 20:4) Only the remnant during the last days , face this Beast – two beasts to be exact; one as bearing an “image” of a “spirit-directed” organization (Rev 13:15) and one that guides this organization, appearing to be like Christ. (Rev 13:11,12) “And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.” Rev 13:5-7 Spiritual food is controlled by “false christs in the WT. JWs, those anointed and not anointed, can only “buy and sell” what the wicked slave provides. (Rev 13:16,17) I believe the organization is Satan’s magnum opus, his spiritual military ruse he plays against those under the New Covenant woman/promise; and his last attempt to forestall the coming Kingdom of God. “So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood.” Rev 12:15 …a flood of deceit and lies. Isn’t that the same tool he used with Eve? Isn’t the organization touting that it is through its existence, that JWs “will not die” - that only it can bring salvation? Gen 3:4; Rev 16:13-16 There are many of us who see Revelation’s meaning as spiritual prophesy, not physical to take part in the world of Satan. That world, cannot “give birth” to the Kingdom. (Job 14:4)

I almost choked on a piece of watermelon reading this. Any anointed one who desires to load every JW onto an airplane and fly them to the wilderness in Australia, possesses a very unstable view of the spiritual fulfillment in Revelation. But if the two of you work well together, that’s great! Great Commission? SM, I was a JW, not part of the Unification Church. I’m sorry, but you will never get it! As for my anointing, I don’t have to prove that to you, Kosonan or anyone else. I’m not begging anyone to believe me, since I answer only to God and Christ. 2 Tim 2:15 I think you really need to lighten up. Your determination to be beyond minutely critical of everyone's use of scripture, will only cause you health issues. I think you should pray about it. But, even though my own life is incredibly crazy busy, I will attempt to “learn Concordances”, and I expect you will keep me in line about it. I can’t promise anything though, since I go where the wind takes me. 🙂

I’ve learned something about WT’s version of 2 Cor 5:20 It is the only translation that I have come across that says, “ambassadors substituting for Christ”. And they use the word twice, even though it is not stated in their Kingdom Interlinear: NWT - “Therefore, we are ambassadors substituting for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us. As substitutes for Christ, we beg: “Become reconciled to God.” 2 Cor 5:20 NKJV – ”Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God.” An ambassador represents another individual, but cannot be a substitute for the person. He presents the message he brings from the one he is representing, for other to hear. Yet, how fitting for the WT to say the GB are “substitutes” for Christ. It is quite clear they do not bring any message from Christ. Indeed. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” Matt 24:25 If we look at the anointed as individual members of the same Body, they are to work synergistically with one another. Every priest is a “messenger” from God, even though each one has a unique gift that contributes to the health of the entire Body. (Mal 2:7; 1 Cor 12:12,13) They are to represent Christ’s truth; so, yes, they are all ambassadors, or “preachers” of truth – of Christ, who is truth. (John 14:6; 1 Pet 2:9) Christ is the Head of the Body, and no one can replace him. If they teach his truth, they are his representative. I hope that makes sense. "Truly I tell you, whoever receives anyone I send receives me, and the one who receives me receives him who sent me. John 13:20." “He has made us competent to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.” 2 Cor 3:6 “A person should think of us in this way: as servants of Christ and managers of the mysteries of God.” 1 Cor 4:1 Yes, I have learned since being out of the organization, that every anointed priest should be doing more than what they are allowed to, in the organization. Truly, they are “trampled” as prophesied to occur in the last days. Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3; Rev 13:5-7 The elders have become the GB’s ambassadors, relaying any and all doctrine from false christs, to the congregations. Rev 13:11,12; 16:13,14

As I said, I read only a partial amount of your lengthy comments. If you agree with something I have said here, I have overlooked it. Dare I say this, because at least one booklet from you will emerge from it; but why Kosonen is involved, beats me. How about this time, you tell me what you agree with that I have said here.

My view has not wavered one bit.