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  1. Because I believe in Christ’s words and his thousand year reign beginning in the first century, I believe the “144,000” are not awaiting a resurrection, but reign with Christ now . John 5:24 - Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. Mark 8:35 - "For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life because of me and the gospel will save it.” “Then I saw thrones, and people seated on them who were given authority to judge. I also saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and who had not accepted the mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.” Rev 20:4 After the thousand years have ended, the remaining anointed are tested; (Rev 16:13,14;20:7-9) with some receiving life, others not. (Foolish and wise virgins) Rev 12:4; Mat 25:1,2 “The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection.” Rev 20:5 (Does the Wt teach that there is another resurrection AFTER a literal thousand years have passed in the Kingdom? Isn’t the whole idea of the “thousand years” teaching, is to have everyone resurrected, reach perfection and then tested by Satan? ) So, why are the remnant of anointed in the last days, considered dead? “And you, although you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit now working in the sons of disobedience, 3 among whom also we all formerly lived in the desires of our flesh, doing the will of the flesh and of the mind, and we were children of wrath by nature, as also the rest of them were. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of his great love with which he loved us, 5 and we being dead in trespasses, he made us alive together with Christ (by grace you are saved), 6 and raised us together and seated us together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus Eph 2:1-6 As long as one follows men, who act upon their will of the flesh and mind, by leading one into false teachings (absolutely not sourced with Christ), we cannot receive eternal life. Because of this, just as sin entered into the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death spread to all people because all sinned. For if by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through the one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one, Jesus Christ. Rom 5:12,17 “Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. John 5:24” Jesus told his disciples, Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Matt 19:28 The twelve tribes of Israel are the members of the 144,000/Temple of God. Rev 7:4; 21:12 There will be no judging of Christs’s kings after Armageddon, since this completed Bride will be united with Jesus by then. Rev 3:12; 21:2 This judging has occurred to each individual anointed one over the 2,000 year period since Jesus sat on his thrown next to God. Ps 110:1,2
  2. In the book of Revelation, those anointed who survive the test Satan throws upon them, (Luke 22:31; 21:8; James 1:12-16; Col 2:8; Rev 12:3,4,15) ...and their needed refinement to be found pure and blameless, are referred to as the “called, faithful, and chosen” servants of Christ. ( 2 Cor 11:1-4; 1 Pet 1:22; 2 Pet 3:9; Phil 2:15) “These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.” Rev 17:14 All servants of Christ should be found faithful and discreet (“wise”). Luke 19:15-27 Their wisdom comes from the “Spirit of truth”. ( Luke 7:35; 21:15; 16:13; John 17:17) “Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.” Matt 24:45,46 This particular “faithful” servant placed over God’s household (Eph 2:19-22) is also a steward, which is a position within the Body of Christ. 1 Cor 12:28 – “And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, next miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, various kinds of tongues.” Luke 12:42 - And the Lord said, “Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his master will make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of food in due season?” The word for steward here can mean “a house-distributor, overseer, to dispense, manage” When we look at how the Holy Spirit works within the united Body of Christ, does this mean that only the manager/administrator provides all necessary elements for the household? That is not the role of a genuine steward, even in our world; who collects from all servants and “administrates” - allocates, dispenses, distributes – to all within the household. The steward is not the sole source of provisions as the GB make it out to be. “For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all. Rom 12:4-8 A wicked steward/administrator does not recognize the function of any other servant. Because of that, the spiritual house/Temple of God cannot thrive in the organization. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) “But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ 49 and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, 50 the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, 51 and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matt 24:48-51 JWs refuse to recognize the scriptures that show clearly how the anointed Body is to work. They are enamored by humble-looking men who appear to be providing for the “house”; yet, the house these men have appointed themselves over as “administrators”, also use their own made up “body” of elders to keep the ORGANIZATION thriving. They have no care for the spiritual House of God – His Temple of “living stores”. Earthly matters are the priority for the GB. Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern. For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame—who set their mind on earthly things. Phil 3:17-19 If a wicked steward is present, this does not mean there isn’t a faithful one Jesus has in mind, that is chosen to restore God’s spiritual “house” in these last days. Also, because this role is within the Body, among all other spiritual gifts, there have been faithful servants appointed as stewards over the last 2,000 years, since the Body was formed. Matt 17:11 - Jesus answered and said to them, “Indeed, Elijah is coming first and will restore all things. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. 6 And he will turn The hearts of the fathers to the children, And the hearts of the children to their fathers, Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.” Mal 4:5,6
  3. I don't know of any scripture that says Acts 2:17,18 had its end when Jerusalem was destroyed. Mark 9:11,12; Rev 11:1-4; Zech 4:11-14 Prophets were still to come after the destruction of Jerusalem.
  4. You've got things a little backward. The "enemy" would kill someone. The organization spiritually "kills" those who give testimony of Christ and truth; and for years, shedding "blood" of those who could not tolerate its lies. John 16:2; Rev 13:15; 12:11 All I've done since I've been on this forum is to plead with JWs to LEAVE the enemy. Surely you know it's not necessary to be a woman, to be called a Jezebel. The early Jezebel was determine to kill God's prophets. WHO is determined to shut up any anointed one - anyone - who speaks against their teachings? "Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols." Rev 2:20 Christ is speaking of HIS SERVANTS - HIS ANOINTED, who ALLOW the GB and elders to rule over them. The Beast from the Earth is a Harlot/false prophet, which doesn't indicate the physical sex of a person. God called his own people "harlots" for turning to falsehoods and idolatry. (Ezek 16) "Israel" today has again fallen into harlotry. So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman (Rev 13:11) sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement. Rev 17:3-7 https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/06/jezebel.html
  5. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. 1 Cor 12:24b-26 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love. Eph 4:11-16 Many others are also understanding what you see concerning the anointed in the organization. I am so grateful you are speaking up about it.
  6. YOU are teaching an anointed one. How does that make you feel? Superior? During the last days, Jesus sends his servants - anointed servants - to explain what the man of lawless is. They are the "two witnesses" of Rev 11:1-3 They preach in "sackcloth", knowing what is to come upon God's holy people who remain under the dual rulership of the MOL/Beast from the Sea and the Beast from the Earth. Rev 13. There is a lot of confusion today, to be expected. Yet Revelation's meaning is revealed through the "witnesses" Jesus sends, as the scrolls are opened. Since this is nonsense in your eyes, I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry that you cannot perceive the oppression that the anointed in the organization are under. We are told to "get out of her, MY PEOPLE". Those people are God's anointed "Israel". ALL should leave the WT. Rev 18:4-8
  7. Did the apostles, wait? Did any of the anointed ones during Pentecost...wait? Do your GB...wait? Where, does it say in the word of God that the anointed priesthood are not to act upon the gift they receive through anointing? 1 Cor chapter 12 Your thought of "ruling" is not Jesus' thought. Your thought of ruling is what you see your GB doing; who, claiming to be anointed TEACH you, but also tell you that disobeying their word will lead to loss of family, loss of status in "Jehovah's organization". Since these men teach, are no other anointed ones allowed to teach? This is ludicrous. You don't see the tyranny you are presently under. Jesus said, "A dispute also arose among them as to which of them was considered to be greatest. 25 Jesus said to them, “The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. 26 But you are not to be like that. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who rules like the one who serves. 27 For who is greater, the one who is at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who is at the table? But I am among you as one who serves." I do not humanly rule over anyone. But your leaders do. I do not care to do so. I only know what the anointing promotes the individual to do. As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— 5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 1 Pet 2:5 Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise—the fruit of lips that openly profess his name. Heb 13:15 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. 2 Cor 5:20 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Eph 4:11,12
  8. So God had ulterior motives to begin with? Or, was it Satan who fell from God's grace? No one undergoing a trial should say, “I am being tempted by God.” For God is not tempted by evil, and He Himself doesn’t tempt anyone. James 1:13 These "trees" were not literal trees. One represents Christ, the Word/Logos, the other, Satan and his deceptive lies. https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/08/two-trees.html
  9. That is again a thing not found directly in the Bible. It is based on assumptions of the WT writing commitee. The word of the Lord came to me: 17 “Son of man, while the house of Israel lived in their land, they defiled it with their conduct and actions. Their behavior before Me was like menstrual impurity. 18 So I poured out My wrath on them because of the blood they had shed on the land, and because they had defiled it with their idols. 19 I dispersed them among the nations, and they were scattered among the countries. I judged them according to their conduct and actions. 20 When they came to the nations where they went, they profaned My holy name, because it was said about them, ‘These are the people of YHWH, yet they had to leave His land in exile.’ 21 Then I had concern for My holy name, which the house of Israel profaned among the nations where they went. 22 “Therefore, say to the house of Israel: This is what the Lord God says: It is not for your sake that I will act, house of Israel, but for My holy name, which you profaned among the nations where you went. 23 I will honor the holiness of My great name, which has been profaned among the nations—the name you have profaned among them. The nations will know that I am YHWH”—the declaration of the Lord God—“when I demonstrate My holiness through you in their sight. Why does Michael stand up in the last days? What is the meaning of his name? Dan 12:1 There is a rival - an idol that God's people have chosen to follow instead of the true God. The rival is the Beast from the Sea. It conquers God's saints by deceit. Rev 16:13,14 They worshiped the dragon because he gave authority to the beast. And they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to wage war against him?” 5 A mouth was given to him to speak boasts and blasphemies. He was also given authority to act[e][f] for 42 months. 6 He began to speak blasphemies against God: to blaspheme His name and His dwelling—those who dwell in heaven. 7 And he was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them. He was also given authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation. 8 All those who live on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name was not written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slaughtered. Rev 13:5-8 "Then war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon. The dragon and his angels also fought, 8 but he could not prevail, and there was no place for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was thrown out—the ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan,the one who deceives the whole world. He was thrown to earth, and his angels with him." Rev 12:7-9
  10. "I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge" (Rev 20:4) "If you forgive anyone's sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven." (John 20:23). In the context of the last scripture (John 20:22), Jesus showed how, some are authorized to forgive, or not forgive, sins. It reads; "When He had said this, He breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit." It was the breath of holy spirit, which made them qualified priests, to judge. *But who is it, that judges, today?* Is it God's priests, who have received holy spirit from Christ? No. A different identity has been empowered by "breath"/spirit... to do judging. But it is not by "holy" spirit/breath. In speaking of what the false prophet does... Rev.13:15 reads; "He was granted to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast could both speak and cause all who refused to worship the image of the beast, to be killed." Can you see that the beast, is given authority to judge and execute, those who refuse to idolize the beast's image? Can you see that the "breath"/spirit, and its' authority to judge, come from the false prophet? Isn't it interesting, that the governing body has declared from its own mouth, that the WT is "spirit-directed" and it's representative body of "elders", are authorized to judge and condemn to spiritual death, those who refuse to worship the image of the WT as of God? Rev. 13:11, says of the false prophet, "he had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon.". Rev.16:13 helps us to know where the false prophet got the spirit that is in its mouth, which authorizes the WT "elder" to condemn those refusing to idolize the organization they represent. It reads; "Then I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming from the dragon’s mouth, from the mouth of the false prophet, and from the mouth of the beast". Satan's empowerment of this Cult, is repeated in many scriptures (2 Thess 2:3-12; Rev 9:1-3), as well as the effect it has on God's people (Matt 24:24,25; Rev 13:7,10; Col 2:8). It is amazing how many details of prophecy are being fulfilled, among them (and us), today. "If any of you has a grievance against another, how dare he go to law before the unrighteous instead of before the saints! Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!" (1Cor.6:1-3) Pearl Doxsey ****************************************** Just a sidepoint: I was speaking with a friend about Armageddon a while back, and she had recalled reading in an old dictionary, the term “new skin” attached to the meaning of Armageddon. Out of curiosity, I did a bit of research and came across someone’s description of the Bible’s use of frogs in Rev 16:13. (Rev 16:12-14) But firstly, the demonic expressions coming from the mouth of the dragon, the Beast from the Sea and the false prophet/Beast from the Earth as “frogs”, indicates a gradual shift from what was truth, to a full-fledged lie. This can be related to the life cycle of a frog beginning as an egg, transforming into a tadpole and finishing off as a completely different looking creature. This change can be expressed in doctrinal adjustments called “new light”, throughout the organization’s history. I’m still running across subtle changes evident in the organization’s literature, that for most JWs go undetected, over their gradual development into a complete lie. Yet, there are other characteristics of a frog to be considered. They are cold-blooded. Trampling one’s “brother” into submission to a dual ruler-ship, and subsequently passing judgment as spiritually “dead”, is a cold-hearted act developed and practiced in stricter measures today. (John 13:34,35; Matt 24:12; Luke 21:12; Matt 24:48-51; John 16:2; Rev 13:15) Frogs inhabit both the land and the sea, and are able to “breathe” or absorb oxygen in both elements. “The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.” Rev 13:1 “Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.” Rev 13:11 And this interesting thought; frogs frequently shed their skin, providing a renewed look, while supporting their ability to breathe easily in water. Old skin is pulled off and eaten. “About once a week, frogs shed their skin. The process begins with the frog doing a lot of twisting, bending, and stretching to loosen the old skin. Then the frog pulls the skin over its head like a sweater and -- usually -- eats it.” https://www.exploratorium.edu/frogs/mainstory/frogstory2.html The old skin provides the frog with some nourishment, and it is a process of recycling old components to produce new. The organization’s old debunked and modified teachings provided temporary “nourishment” through their life span. How so? Revelation speaks of the Beast from the earth requiring a 'buying and selling' of a restricted diet within its own monopoly of spiritual food. This is produced by the false prophet, that in the long run, only sustains the growth of the idol and those who spearhead its development - the false prophet/Harlot and the Beast she rides. (Rev 8:10,11;13:1,4,7,8,11,16,17; 17:15) Just as a frog’s old skin disappears, the majority of the younger JWs today are not aware of the old teachings, but only the new progressive format and doctrine. They ‘buy’ into it, with their dedication, service and material goods that sustains the idol/Beast from the Sea. (Rev 13:17) It takes a lot of “twisting, bending and stretching” for the leaders of the organization to produce new skin, aka “new light”, as the example of the “generation” teaching throughout the years, vividly reveals. 2 Pet 2:1-3 “Announce this to the descendants of Jacob and proclaim it in Judah: 21 Hear this, you foolish and senseless people, who have eyes but do not see, who have ears but do not hear: 22 Should you not fear me?” declares the Lord. “Should you not tremble in my presence? I made the sand a boundary for the sea, an everlasting barrier it cannot cross. The waves may roll, but they cannot prevail; they may roar, but they cannot cross it. 23 But these people have stubborn and rebellious hearts; they have turned aside and gone away. 24 They do not say to themselves, ‘Let us fear the Lord our God, who gives autumn and spring rains in season, who assures us of the regular weeks of harvest.’ 25 Your wrongdoings have kept these away; your sins have deprived you of good. 26 “Among my people are the wicked who lie in wait like men who snare birds and like those who set traps to catch people. 27 Like cages full of birds, their houses are full of deceit; they have become rich and powerful 28 and have grown fat and sleek. Their evil deeds have no limit; they do not seek justice. They do not promote the case of the fatherless; they do not defend the just cause of the poor. 29 Should I not punish them for this?” declares the Lord. “Should I not avenge myself on such a nation as this? 30 “A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land: 31 The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way. But what will you do in the end? Jer 5:20-31 https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/ "The Disgusting Thing Standing in the Holy Place" "By this ( love among yourselves ), all will know that you are truly my disciples" “Two Beasts” “Head wound -vs- Beast wound” “Generation”
  11. Satan makes visible, the "easy" war to detect. Their is nothing deceitful about a plague, a disease, literal earthquakes going on right now. There is nothing deceitful about the actions of religion in politics as most everyone sees it also. People who profess Christ in the world believe these literal signs bring about the end. So...what makes the WT different in that respect? There is no difference at all; only that the disease they promoted as a sign of the end, is also affecting THEM. I don't think early on, they banked on that happening to "Jehovah's organization". Deceit takes effort to perceive. It takes the blessing of Holy Spirit to detect it. If we are stubborn and lean on "our own understanding", instead of what the scriptures prove to us, we will be left "naked and ashamed" on the day Christ returns. It is a fact that the anointed are in the Watchtower, under the thumb of the two Beasts of Revelation. Every element of these Beasts fit the Watchtower and its "harlot" (spiritually immoral) leaders; particularly, the WT's admittance to being "spirit-directed", and its necessary "mark" of identity at baptism and beyond, in works and dedication toward the "Beast"/organization. "He (the "harlot"/false prophet) deceives those who live on the earth because of the signs that he is permitted to perform on behalf of the beast, telling those who live on the earth to make an image ("likeness" Isa 46:5) of the beast who had the sword wound and yet lived. 15 He was permitted to give a spirit ("give breath") to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast could both speak and cause whoever would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 And he requires everyone—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to be given a mark ("brand","stamp") on his right hand or on his forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark: the beast’s name or the number of his name." Rev 13:14-17 False prophets excommunicate dissenters as unworthy of spiritual life, which is exactly what WT's false prophets direct the elders to carry out. Matt 24:48-51 "Now God has revealed these things to us by the Spirit, for the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man that is in him? In the same way, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who comes from God, so that we may understand what has been freely given to us by God. 13 We also speak these things, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual things to spiritual people. 14 But the unbeliever does not welcome what comes from God’s Spirit, because it is foolishness to him; he is not able to understand it since it is evaluated spiritually. 15 The spiritual person, however, can evaluate everything, yet he himself cannot be evaluated by anyone. 16 For who has known the Lord’s mind, that he may instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ. 1 Cor 2:10-16 If we work on assumptions as I have seen you do continually, it proves to me that you are using your human wisdom to calculate the end, instead of relying on Holy Spirit to lead you. There is no difference between how you are approaching the understanding of Revelation and Daniel, than how the Watchtower does.
  12. I have to ask you what you mean by “after”. After what? The teaching of Christ’s thousand years of rule happening on the other side of Armageddon? Jesus has been “conquering” since he began his reign in the first century. A declaration of YHWH to my lord, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.” YHWH will send out your mighty scepter from Zion; rule in the midst of your enemies. Your people will volunteerin the day of your power. In holy splendor, from the womb of the dawn, you will have the dew of your youth. The kings of the earth establish themselves, and the rulers conspire together against YHWH and his anointed “Let us tear off their bonds, and cast their cords from us!” You will break them with an iron rod. Like a potter’s vessel you will shatter them.” Ps.110:1,2,3; 2:2,3,9 “And the one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, I will give him authority over the nations, and “he will shepherd them with an iron rod; he will break them in pieces like jars made of clay,” Rev 2:26,27 The "nations" in question are not literal political nations. Kings rule over nations. Jesus is speaking of HIS kings in Revelation. During this time period, WT's "kings" rule over their own "nation". Many anointed who have left the organization, also have followers or a "nation". It is confusing to address Revelation 1:5 as a "prologue". Are the anointed not priests now? (1 Pet 2:9) You made them a kingdom ("kings") and priests to our God, and they will reign on the earth. Rev 5:10 The anointed must individually “conquer” Satan’s accusations against them during their lifetime. Each one, is tested; they either fail the test or they survive and come out victorious. Luke 22:31; Job 1:11,12; 14:13; Rev 9:5,6; Rom 8:17; 1 Pet 4:13; Luke 9:23 Each “144,000” priest of God is a threat to Satan reign. Once the Temple is sealed with its final “living stones”, it is a short matter of time before Satan’s reign is abolished. Zech 4:6-10 “So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.” These “priests”/”kings” who are sealed during their lifetime become part of the “Kingdom of Heaven”, before Armageddon is finished. (Eph 1:13; Rev 5:9,10) Their rule becomes fully enacted once death is destroyed. But you have come to Mount Zion, and to the city of the living God, to the heavenly Jerusalem, and to tens of thousands of angels, to the festal gathering 23 and assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of righteous people made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks better than Abel’s does. Heb 12:22-24 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins 2 in which you previously walked according to the ways of this world, according to the ruler who exercises authority over the lower heavens, the spirit now working in the disobedient. 3 We too all previously lived among them in our fleshly desires, carrying out the inclinations of our flesh and thoughts, and we were by nature children under wrath as the others were also. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love that He had for us,[c] 5 made us alive with the Messiah even though we were dead in trespasses. You are saved by grace! 6 Together with Christ Jesus He also raised us up and seated us in the heavens, 7 so that in the coming ages He might display the immeasurable riches of His grace through His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. Eph 2:1-7 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead also comes through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ, the firstfruits; afterward, at His coming, those who belong to Christ.(the faithful anointed remnant) 24 Then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father, when He abolishes all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He puts all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy to be abolished is death. 27 For God has put everything under His feet. But when it says “everything” is put under Him, it is obvious that He who puts everything under Him is the exception. 28 And when everything is subject to Christ, then the Son Himself will also be subject to the One who subjected everything to Him, so that God may be all in all. 1 Cor 15:20-28 Christ’s return... the “end”... and the abolishment of all rule and authority and power, happens at Armageddon’s finish. This includes Satan’s authority, rule and power over the earth. Now is the judgment of this world. Now the ruler of this world will be cast out. John 12:31
  13. It seems the circumstances that prompts disfellowshipped JWs to return to the organization are usually after suffering severe hardships from one’s life choices, or the longing to return to family and friends. It could also be the loss of status and recognition no longer received on the outside. Often, it is a combination of all these reasons. As I listened to a short clip of a circuit overseer’s account relating his choice and experience upon leaving the organization when young, it was apparent that he left for selfish reasons; and, he returned for selfish reasons. There was no awakening to the organization’s falsehoods and hypocrisy, no seeking truth through Jesus Christ, but purely his motivation was to experience the world of drugs and immorality, which brought him to the brink of collapse. This was not the difficult road to finding truth that many experience when leaving the WT, but an alternative fork in Satan’s deceptive world, leading to hardship. (Matt 5:10,11; 7:14) Before doing this, he had been a regular pioneer, a title that comes with status, and was supported fully by his family through his development process of becoming a baptized JW. He stated his return came with discipline through guidance of ‘loving’ elders. He mentioned that this discipline ‘molded and trained’ him…to accomplish what? As he said; ultimately, he received “privileges and service” that he would never have imagined. I thought of the frequent use of the word, ‘privilege’ found in the magazines. Just quickly searching for it on the JW website, brought up 3,891 hits. I tend to bristle at the organization’s use of this word, since it relays a sense of superiority, from the elite leadership, down to its members. (Matt 20:26,27; 23:12; Phil 2:3,4) The apostles and anointed throughout time, suffered affliction repeatedly, while under service to God and their Master. (Acts 7:57-70; 1 Cor 4:11-13; 2 Cor 11:23-29; 1 Pet 4:12; Heb 10:32; 2 Tim 3:12) The peace and love they experienced was amidst those conditions, which is completely contrary to this man’s experience. Likewise, those who leave this Beast/organization and its “false prophet” to serve the Father whole-souled, suffer persecution from their own spiritual and fleshly family members. Jesus predicted that any who obey his teachings and follow him, would expect such treatment from their own people. (Luke 10:25-28; Matt 5:10,11;10:38; John 15:18; Luke 21:12; John 16:2; Heb 13:13; 2 Tim 3:12; Rev 13:15) The type of privileges and service the overseer and thousands like him enjoy, is not related to serving God; but related to serving men and their disciplinary rules necessary to run an earthly organization – a religious idol. (Rom 1:25; Rev 13:1,2,4,11,12,16,17) The English word, “privilege” can be defined as “a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.” Contrast that with the Bible’s use of the word, “charis” (Rom 12:6) which many translations do define as “privilege”; yet, its primary application is “graciousness…especially the divine influence upon the heart and its reflection in the life; including gratitude”. Basically, it is the gift of divine favor, grace and its benefit. Through the anointed Body of Christ, these gifts of the Spirit benefit all believers in Christ. (1 Cor 12:4-7; 1 Cor 4:1; 2 Cor 5:20; Eph 4:29) Who bestowed the “privilege” of bearing the title of elder and circuit overseer on this man? God? Although it is said that Holy Spirit plays a hand in deciding who becomes an elder, they are appointed through a system of recommendations by a body of elders and circuit overseers. On the other hand, an anointing by God, which is an appointment of service under Christ, involves no other person but the individual receiving the outpouring of Holy Spirit. (John 15:16; Rom 5:5; 8:16,28; 1 John 2:27; Gal 1:11,12) While this appointment by the Father is both subtly attacked and ignored in the organization, man’s choice of who are to shepherd, is heightened and honored. (Jer 23:1,2) The circuit overseer calls elders “trained spiritual doctors”. (Jer 8:11) This type of verbiage is just what JWs willingly respond to. I’ve heard many members fully defend the elder body, while giving little notice to the anointed in their congregations, whose spiritual “molding” and training is to be received directly from God and their Head, Jesus Christ. (2 Cor 4:7; Eph 2:10; Phil 2:13; Heb 13:20,21) Yet, the majority of God’s called ones, also defend the power and privilege of those who rule over them. The “divine influence on the heart” of an anointed one is the receiving of God’s laws as His priest. No JW can see this with their spiritual perception, let alone with their literal eyes; thus, these laws lay unheeded in the anointed heart. An anointed one is not sought after to teach the people. (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Heb 8:10) JWs see the training of elders through regulations and protocol outlined by the organization, which takes precedence over the laws of God fulfilled in Christ. (Matt 5:17-20; Mark 7:7,8; Col 2:20,21; Eph 4:14; Gal 1:11,12) This is exactly what Satan desires them to see. (2 Thes 2:3,4,9-12; Rev 13:1-4) "When Jesus describes which of his slaves are rewarded in the life to come, he portrays them... NOT as men who have already honored themselves or one another.... but as men that wait for Jesus himself to judge and honor them...when he returns. (see Matt.25:19,20,21) Now I must tell you, that although Jesus taught us to lower ourselves and not to accept glorifying titles..... "Jehovah's Witnesses" ARE GUILTY OF THIS. They may not use the title "Reverend", but they do use the titles of "elder", "overseer", Pioneer", etc. all of which bestow undeserved honor. To learn FROM THE BIBLE who deserves to be called an "older man" and "overseer", is to realize that those who carry these titles, do so without scriptural backing. They may believe that they fulfill the scriptural qualifications (1Tim.3:1-9) for these titles, but they believe so in their ignorance. They do not dig deep enough into the Bible, to see who these "overseers" really are (1Pet.5:2; Deut.15:10; Isa.65:22). The word "pioneer" or "governing body" is not in the Bible (Gal.1:15,16,17,11,12; Mark10:42,43), nor their designations, nor their positions (Matt.6:1,2,3,4). Pearl Doxsey, "Accepting Titles" The man in the video said he “poured his heart out to Jehovah” in prayer, wanting to return to him. In truth, his return was to the same spiritually corrupt religious system he had left; this time to rise in rank as an integral element in the “trampling” of God’s Temple priesthood, resulting in truth of God’s Word in Christ, being cast “to the ground”. (Dan 8:10-12;Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 9:3-5; 13:5-7; 11:1,2) This is also due to God’s priests, bending their backs to those who bear titles approved by men. (Ezek 44:6-9; Mal 2:8,9; Jer 3:12; Hos 14:1,2;Isa 51:1,7; Jer 1:19; 23; 1 Cor 7:23; Gal 1:10) Jer 8:4-13 - “Say to them, ‘This is what the Lord says: “‘When people fall down, do they not get up? When someone turns away, do they not return? 5 Why then have these people turned away? Why does Jerusalem always turn away? They cling to deceit; they refuse to return. 6 I have listened attentively, but they do not say what is right. None of them repent of their wickedness, saying, “What have I done?” Each pursues their own course like a horse charging into battle. 7 Even the stork in the sky knows her appointed seasons, and the dove, the swift and the thrush observe the time of their migration. But my people do not know the requirements of the Lord. 8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? 9 The wise will be put to shame; they will be dismayed and trapped. Since they have rejected the word of the Lord, what kind of wisdom do they have? 10 Therefore I will give their wives to other men and their fields to new owners. From the least to the greatest, all are greedy for gain; prophets and priests alike, all practice deceit. 11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. “Peace, peace,” they say, when there is no peace. 12 Are they ashamed of their detestable conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the Lord. 13 “‘I will take away their harvest, declares the Lord. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.’” At https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/ Where is the "True Religion" -- Christ's Body -- God's Temple? “Superiority? No..., not for any one of us” - Are Elders Spirit-Appointed? - The Anointing Teaches Truth--How? / The "Refining Pot" / Who should partake, and when? / "Tribulation" Foolish Virgins - Holy Spirit at work / The "Token"
  14. The thousand year teaching of the WT and all other false prophets in the world, mocks God’s ability to read hearts as righteous or unrighteous, before Armageddon’s finish. “For the eyes of the Lord move to and fro throughout the earth that He may strongly support those whose heart is completely His. You have acted foolishly in this. Indeed, from now on you will surely have wars.” 2 Chron 16:9 “Does He not see my ways And number all my steps? Job 31:4 “In the resurrection, therefore, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had married her.” 29 But Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. 31 But regarding the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God: 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.” We are counted among the "living" through our obedience to the Word of God - NOW. This teaching mocks Jesus’ ability to grant eternal life to his obedient ones. Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. John 11:25 Then Peter said, “See, we have left all and followed You.” 29 So He said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or parents or brothers or wife or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God, 30 who shall not receive many times more in this present time, and in the age to come eternal life.” Luke 18:28-30 The organization believes it is the way to salvation – follow IT and you will receive temporary “life” for a thousand years after Armageddon. After that, your life is on the line; Satan will be on the loose to deceive you. For those who have lost family members and friends in the organization because of following Christ, (Luke 18 above) BELIEVE in this promise of eternal life – uninterrupted, through their obedience to Christ’s teachings. Rom 8:1 - There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. Rom 6:22 - But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. The thousand year teaching that you believe in, rips out the pages in the “Lamb’s Book of Life” Phil 4:3 - And I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life. Rev 13:8 - All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Rev 21:27 - But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. From what I understand, eternal means NEVER ENDING; PERPETUAL. What is your definition of ETERNAL? (LUKE 18:30)
  15. Revelation does not give us any indication that the kings of the earth can be translated as both political rulers, as well as Jesus’ kings. It gives us ONE definition, that they are the kings under Christ. (Rev 1:5; 21:24; Rev 5:9,10) You are going beyond scripture to create a falsehood, dear Kosonen. The “kings of the earth” involve the anointed sealed, and unsealed kings of Christ. (Rev 7:3,4; 9:4) The ten horns on the Beast are unsealed anointed “kings” who eventually forfeit their rule with Christ, to rule with the Beast/organization of Rev 13:1,2 (Rev 17:12) The “heads” of this Beast are a line of ruling figures of a spiritual “Gentile” nation that “tramples” the saints, the Temple of God. Rev 11:1-3 The Beast from the Earth (Rev 13:11,12) is a composite of ruling “kings of the earth”, over time, who grant this Beast of heads and horns, (Rev 13:1) power to carry out Satan’s plan of overcoming the saints with deceit. (Rev 13:11,12; 16:13,14; Matt 24:48-51) The “horns”/kings on the Beast come into play once the GB/Beast from the Earth is eliminated. This is when the organization will try to revamp and reestablish its image, using other “kings of the earth”/anointed to create an alliance with “Gentiles”/elders. They will “rule” together over all JWs and the anointed remaining inside the organization. (Rev 17:12-14,15-17) The Watchtower is a spiritual “kingdom” used as a weapon of deceit to flood the anointed and those who fall in with them, with poisoned waters. (Rev 8:10,11; 12:15) Any truth that is originally received is the bait to draw them in. (Col 2:8; Rev 13:9,10) You were drawn in, all anointed in the last days have been drawn into this end-time trap of deceit. God allows this. Matt 24:24; Luke 22:31; 2 Thess 2:9-12 And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. Matt 24:4,5 Revelation concerns THESE kings. I so wish you would look closer to “home” for this understanding instead of projecting it into the earthly kingdoms. The Kingdom of God is not “born” from the unclean. (Job 14:4) We are not living in the days when the literal nation of Israel fought against marauding nations. “Israel” is a spiritual nation, facing a spiritual, powerful nation – “Gentiles”, who obviously have trampled down the priesthood of God in the organization. (Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4) The man of lawlessness is not a literal nation or entity that somehow will accomplish this against God’s Temple "living stones". (1 Pet 2:5,9) It is a spiritual nation found right where the Temple members reside and are gathered and surrounded – in the organization. As the apostles brought to our attention, this war is spiritual. 2 Cor 10:3-6: For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled. The Kingdom is born within each anointed one’s heart, who is faithful to his Head Jesus, and the truth of his Word. Luke 17:20,21
  16. Well, who is this bride adorned for her husband? This may help you see that the "new creation" is both spirit and human. A literal city will not be coming to earth, but the Temple/ "saints"/Bride of Christ will. They represent "New Jerusalem" as the Temple. “He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.” Rev 3:12 The saints/Bride are the dwelling of God’s Spirit. They are the Temple. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) They will have access to both heaven and earth. (John 1:51; 1 Cor 15:44-49; 1 Pet 1:3,4; 2 Cor 5:17) (John 3:6; Col 2:9) So, let’s say we’re into the Kingdom on the other side of Armageddon as you see it. Peace rules through Christ and his Bride. All mankind are blessed in abundance. Satan is then “let loose” to DECEIVE, not just two people as in the Garden of Eden, but thousands, millions. This also means no one living in that peaceful situation will be aware he has been free to create a plan to deceive such a large number of people. After all, this is his plan of DECEPTION. It would be a plan on a grand scale in order to deceive and gather a number as great as the sands of the sea. (Rev 20:8) It would have to be viewed initially, as righteous, to win over all those believers in God and Christ. Also, we have the saints, now perfect in knowledge from God’s Holy Spirit, and united with Christ, somehow SURROUNDED by Gog and Magog! This means Christ’s Bride would have been DECEIVED into leaving Christ’s side and joining the plan Satan had created! Rev 20:9 Can you see this? No, there is no “thousand years” of peace after Armageddon, only to be shattered by Satan. He and his his Kingdom will be gone once Armageddon is finished. God’s promises are true. “Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.” Rev 19:20 How did the beast and false prophet of Rev 13, deceive the saints/kings of the earth into entering a spiritual captivity? (Rev 13:10) They achieved it with the help of Satan. (Rev 13:2,11) And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. What is Jesus telling his "kings of the earth"? “Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.” 16 And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon. Rev 16:13-16 “The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone wherethe beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.” Rev 20:10 ~~~~~ And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ Therefore do not go after them. Luke 21:8 For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it! For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works. 2 Cor 11:2-4,13-15 Again, who are the “kings of the earth”? (Rev 1:5) How will the “saints”/anointed be blasphemed and overcome by the city of New York? Rev 13:6,7 Armageddon is a battle between Christ’s kings (Rev 19:16) – those who ride with him in truth and those who remain deceived by the Harlot/Beast/Gog and Magog, choosing the headship of men over the headship of Christ. Here’s the bad kings: “And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.” Rev 19:19 And here’s the good kings: “And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it.” Rev 21:24 Surely, you can see that Rev 21:24 is speaking of Christ’s victorious kings, who are the 144,000/and Bride of Christ - not victorious political rulers. And, they are victorious over the spirit-inspired Beast from the Sea, that had made war with them. Rev 15:2; Rev 13:15; 11:7,8,11 http://pearl-kingsofearth.blogspot.com/
  17. No, I am not deliberately deceiving Kosonen. And you left off verse 9. I'll read it from the NKJV if you like: "Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. Gathered and surrounded. Gathered like a fish caught in a net, then surrounded by false teachings and the threat that they will be "killed" if they speak against doctrine. Rev 16:13,14; 13:15 Col 2:8 Then he (Beast from the Sea/organization) opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. 10 He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. Saints represent the anointed ones, God's "holy" people: https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?qs_version=NKJV&quicksearch=saints&begin=73&end=73 You're telling me that Revelation will change the meaning of "saints" from the anointed, to all JWs, to accommodate the lie of a thousand years of "peace" and judgment that will happen after Armageddon. Do you realize how confusing this teaching can be? Each day of your peace in paradise is a day of judgment. And, you will also be judged at the end of the thousand years. Besides that, you are being judged NOW as worthy to enter this new judgment period. I am beginning to sound like Stephen Lett (the last of the last of last days...) In a sense, you are right in one thing, not only are the saints from every nation of the world surrounded, but as Rev 13:7 states, the Beast/organization was given authority over people from every tribe, tongue and nation - all JWs. 7 od chap. 16 pp. 162-168 - Organized (od) "In view of the many divisive factors that exist today, who would ever have thought it possible to unite people “out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues”? (Rev. 7:9) 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. Satan's deceptive plan to "surround the saints" and all who fall for this master plan, is staring you right in the face. (We've been over the fact that Rev 7:9 is speaking of the anointed serving in God's Temple Rev 7:15) Rev 10:8-11: Then the voice which I heard from heaven spoke to me again and said, “Go, take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel who stands on the sea and on the earth.” 9 So I went to the angel and said to him, “Give me the little book.” And he said to me, “Take and eat it; and it will make your stomach bitter, but it will be as sweet as honey in your mouth.” 10 Then I took the little book out of the angel’s hand and ate it, and it was as sweet as honey in my mouth. But when I had eaten it, my stomach became bitter. 11 And he said to me, “You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, tongues, and kings.” The "kings of the earth" and those JWs who reside with them. (Rev 1:5) The initial invitation to the WT teachings seems as sweet as honey, until one wakes up to its charades, which is a bitter experience.
  18. When thinking of the necessity of "new light"; which WT history shows was never "light" at all, (i.e. this generation teaching), I remembered Jesus' words at Matt 5:37 37 But let your statement be ‘Yes, yes; no, no,’ and anything beyond these is from the evil one. Seriously, God and Christ both, don't have anything to do with any supposed "light" that the Wt. may attempt to shine.
  19. It doesn't take any sort of organized religion to develop a relationship with God and Christ. John 4:23,24 Many cults boast of an "international brotherhood", as did the Nazis. Efficient worldwide preaching work is not spiritually efficient, if it is laced with lies, that have their source from the leader's mouths. Matt 7:15-20; Rev 16:13,14 Why would anyone desire to lead people into such a trap, a trap that is called, "truth" when it is not, and never has been, pure truth? Jer 8:17; Matt 24:24; John 8:44
  20. "Constant feature" - And from the time the regular burnt offering is removed and the abomination that causes desolation is set up there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. "From the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days" Who performed "burnt offerings" in the earthly temple on a regular, constant, basis? Who are to give "sacrifices of praise" today? Heb 13:14,15 Who acts as "priests"/clergy in the organization today, by "representing" God's true priesthood? 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16 And you must say to the rebellious, to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord YHWH: “Enough for you, house of Israel, of all of your detestable things! 7 At your bringing foreigners who are uncircumcised of heart and uncircumcised of flesh to be in my sanctuary to profane it, my temple, as you offered my food, fat, and blood, so you broke my covenant by all of your detestable things. 8 And you did not observe the responsibility of my sanctuary, but you appointed them as the keepers of my responsibility in my sanctuary for you.” Ezek 44:6-9 The "constant feature" has been removed. The "abomination"/ "disgusting thing" is the elder body in the organization. “But when you see the abomination of desolation standing where it should not be” (let the one who reads understand), “then those in Judea must flee to the mountains!" Mark 13:14 Who has the power to judge God's anointed priesthood? To "kill" them? To "kill" any who reject this abomination and their lies? Rev 13:15 Do not let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and who exalts himself over every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God. 2 Thess 2:3,4 Do you realize what the temple of God is? Consequently, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but you are fellow citizens of the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone,21 in whom the whole building, joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are built up together into a dwelling place of God in the Spirit. Eph 2:19-22 If you are truly an anointed one, YOU are part of that temple. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17
  21. I will ask again, if the "thousand year" reign of Christ is AFTER Armageddon, then how is it "Gog and Magog" surround the saints...if the saints are ruling safely with Christ? "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them." Rev 20:7-8 The "saints" who are the "kings of the earth", are also "gathered" by the two Beasts of Revelation: "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." Rev 16:13,14 Satan uses deceit in both cases to "gather" the anointed "saints"/"kings of the earth". "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood" "And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth." Rev 5:10 The thousands years is over. The anointed have already been surrounded and deceived by the Watchtower/Beast from the Sea and the Harlot that rides/directs it. (Rev 13:1,2,5-7-11,14-17) "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." Rev 13:7 So...since you are an anointed one, who will "make war" with you before the end of Armageddon? I experienced it when standing up for Christ, for giving "testimony". (Rev 11:7) I was "killed" by the Beast/organization. (John 16:2; Rev 13:15) The war is spiritual, Kosonen. (Eph 6:12) It involves deceit since that is Satan's last tactic to use against the anointed before the Kingdom arrives. (Rev 12:15) The faithful anointed who were on the earth before the appearance of the Beast of Rev 13:1, were not "killed" by it. They had not given their allegiance or reverence ("worship") to it. (Rev 20:4) I did, until I woke up, and spoke up, against wicked leaders. Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:4 Since Pentecost, Jesus has been collecting his faithful ones. (Ps 110:1,2) Satan was "let loose" from his restraint of "not perceiving" (the meaning of Hades, abyss) how to mislead the remnant. Now the remnant faces the critical last test before death is destroyed. Luke 22:31; 2 Thess 2:3,4,9-12; 1 Cor 15:23,24
  22. This is what it's about @Arauna The same man who flips property out of an insatiable appetite of accumulating earthly treasures, is the same man who tells JWs to dig deep in their pockets to support his other dream - building his "kingdom" projects. By the way, it appears that Lett may have also bought property very close to Warwick.
  23. I have an exjw friend in Brazil who is still friends with many JWs. (She's not disfellowshipped and not officially shunned as yet) This is what she is hearing; the translation is slightly glitchy. "I heard that the governing body is quarantined. The JWs here are now confused, because they thought that the governing body was going to reassure them saying that nothing would affect them, they stopped preaching even by phone, look they said that nothing stopped preaching". I was interested in Lett's use of Isa 30:15 to assure JWs not to "panic". "For this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, the Holy One of Israel, says:“By returning to me and resting, you will be saved;Your strength will be in keeping calm and showing trust.” Don't JWs believe they "returned" to God? As a JW, I believed God would protect all JWs during the physical translations of the signs of the end in Matt 24. Obviously, this is what other JWs believe today, as they die from the very "sign" that was to come upon unbelievers in the world. Isa 30:15 ENDS by saying..."But you were unwilling". Men and their organization make false promises, that are beginning to confuse their listeners. Hopefully, this will be a wake-up call for many. “‘Because they lead my people astray, saying, “Peace,” when there is no peace, and because, when a flimsy wall is built, they cover it with whitewash, 11 therefore tell those who cover it with whitewash that it is going to fall. Rain will come in torrents, and I will send hailstones hurtling down, and violent winds will burst forth. 12 When the wall collapses, will people not ask you, “Where is the whitewash you covered it with?” Ezek 13:10-12
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