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Shiwiii

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  1. Right, and look at it. Does the verse you mention state that anyone needs to study to become baptized? No it doesn't, but you made the statement and I disagreed. No one is questioning this part of your statement: I just disagree that one needs to study to become baptized. The Bible does not state that one must study to be baptized, and thus the idea that a person would need to, is unbiblical. I'm not going to keep going around in circles and obscure definitions with you, I stated my point very clear. You seem to dislike that, so what.
  2. your point? Are you talking about being baptized in the name of the Father, Son and of the Holy Spirit?
  3. you keep doing things like this, bringing up something NO ONE said. You are only hearing what you want to hear instead of listening to what IS said. so why is it that you couldn't just say this in the first place instead of arguing with me that one must "work" ? Is it because you just can't bring yourself to admit I was correct? Works for baptism IS UNBIBLICAL. Just stop with your strawman "baptismal regeneration", no one said it.
  4. you keep bringing this up, but you know what? No one has mentioned it but you. Seems like you want a discussion on the topic. Do it. This is straight up comedy. Since you failed at expanding on the "mainstream Christianity" thing, you've had to resort to fourms and private clubs. Keep going sm, tell us about the knitting circle that won't allow cross stitch and how that ties back to your statement that Christians shun.
  5. oh sm, why not? I mean simplistic is very easy to understand, its only when folks like yourself, who add all kinds of arbitrary meanings and definitions, who purposely create complexity so that by the time someone has tried to sift through all that mess, they give up and say "uncle". There is a significant difference between a person stating scripture and explaining it, and one who proclaims to be God's mouthpiece. You just don't see it and want to make your statement so convoluted that people give up. No, a person who is proclaiming the Gospel is still not God's mouthpiece. They are proclaiming and pointing to Gods Word, but are not God's mouthpiece. You don't have to agree and can make up whatever you want, but the end result is that you have not convinced me and based on the replies of almost no one else, you haven't convinced anyone else either.
  6. still doesn't justify your position. It does muddy the conversation more, if that is your plan. from this statement, which I already stated is unbiblical. I know you cannot see it, but right here you said that if they work hard enough.......etc. Works are not a requirement for baptism, belief is.
  7. you're funny. I mean, you already know that what I said is true. It DOES sound like the wt, because they do exactly that. Your statement here is silly. Why? because your feelings are hurt and want to lash out. No one agrees that mainstream Christianity disfellowships or excommunicates or shuns. You are just hurt, and that's ok. It'll get better.
  8. you don't get it, or you just don't like to admit you're wrong. Not inspired = not the mouthpiece.
  9. rightly so and I agree. The difference being is that I do not proclaim to accept any joe public person into my "house" without establishing the boundaries before hand if we are on different playing fields. "House rules" are everywhere, its up to each of us to either accept them or not enter. That makes it kind of hard for those dragged in without a choice.
  10. again, these verses do not include the study part you were looking for. of course, this is something we do to grow closer to God. However this has never been a requirement for baptism. no one said otherwise. You are creating a straw-man argument. no I don't, because the statement was self explanatory. no, what I said was that your statement of having to study to be baptized is unbiblical. You have still failed to prove otherwise. The eunuch did not study as a requirement and the scripture shows just that. He had no idea what he was reading, nor whom it was about. is wasn't until Philip explained it to him did he understand. So having to study IS unbiblical as a requirement for baptism. It certainly helps, and should be done to understand what it is you are even professing, but not a requirement. this makes me think that maybe English is not your first language. "Gimme a break" is an expression.
  11. are you trying to use biblical phrases to impress someone? Even the sayings of Jesus? Touche Get behind me Space Merchant! you are a hindrance to me.
  12. Not being inspired means that they are NOT the mouthpiece of God. A inspired prophet IS, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Moses, etc. men can say whatever they want to say, but that doesn't mean it comes from God. You can go ahead and believe that there is a certain criteria established by man that makes them a mouthpiece, that's fine, it just doesn't make it so.
  13. Aren't all jws consider ministers? 15. What happens when a person gets baptized? (See also footnote.) 15 Eventually, the Bible student, having developed a love of Jehovah God and a strong faith in the ransom sacrifice, wishes to dedicate himself completely to his heavenly Father. (John 14:1) He makes that dedication in personal prayer and then gets baptized as a public symbol of that private act. His baptism is his ordination ceremony because that is when he is recognized as a fully dedicated servant, a di·aʹko·nos, of God. He must remain separate from the world. (John 17:16; James 4:4) He has presented his whole self “a sacrifice living, holy, acceptable to God” without reserve or condition. (Romans 12:1) * He is God’s minister, imitating Christ. The Watchtower—Study Edition | November 15, 2000 So wouldn't Anna's comment be correct? "we"
  14. it is the same mantra , take advantage of whatever and whomever you can and who cares what it destroy's in the process, thus playing both sides to their own benefit.
  15. you do realize you just equated the gb with Jesus? This is borderline worship.
  16. show me where in the Bible it says you must "study diligently". bahahahaha, you mean your education on what a eunuch is? bahahahahahaha completely irrelevant! so you telling us the story again proves what? NOTHING. It is a fact that the eunuch was baptized, but he didn't even know what he was reading! verses 31&31. Give me a break sm, you stretch things so far to try and validate yourself its on the border of narcissism. Was baptism necessary for the thief on the cross next to Jesus? NOPE.
  17. wow, really? and you believe this? You are a perfect candidate for recruitment into whatever cult blows this way this week.
  18. Here we go again with technicalities. You're right sm, it might offend some.
  19. Yuck, I don't sell used cars. Lol, just my preference. I'm a casual guy. Jeans/pants, no tie...no, unless warranted. Vans or boots. I'd be talked to so quick. "Christian attire" bahaaaaaaa. Who do these guys think they are? ARE uniforms on the way? Red and black?
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