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Shiwiii

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  1. So what? So what if he knew them. What purpose does this supposed shepherd need to know the vacation plans in the first place? My own parents do not request such things, and I'm pretty sure their concern for my well being is much more warranted. Of course Tom, I know you request this of your family, right?
  2. You crack me up Billy. The level in which you interact with others is very telling. Also, it doesn't hurt my feelings if you down vote my posts. It actually makes me smile..........because you read it.
  3. nope, not anything close to what I said at all. Doesn't surprise me that you can't or won't comprehend.
  4. No I don't mean witnesses, I mean everyone. All of us can learn something from others, even if their view is not the same as ours. Can they offer a better understanding of scripture? you'd be surprised. Can they offer a better moral Christian life? They can, if you are asking about a better scriptural life than jws. Think CSA and reporting ALL criminals to the proper authorities. So certainly they can. All a person needs to do is listen to the other side before dismissing them based on what the group thinks. Group think is what lemmings do, and right off the cliff they go. ....
  5. Opposing views are an excellent way for one to reflect on the position we hold. If someone gives us something we've never thought of, it could actually open our eyes to a different view, but we must first be willing to listen. And what should I educate myself on in regards to this? Please tell me, so I can be educated.
  6. Interesting stance. So without even watching, and learning what this person said, you choose to accept group think. Not only accepting the groups position, but stating that there is nothing of value, as if you were educated on the subject. Hmmm, why even say anything at all if status quo was the approach? I think that forums like this and many more are invaluable, because we get to see and understand opposing views to further our knowledge and research for our position without actually having to have the conversation face to face. It gives us more time to formulate our ideas with facts (or at least hopefully facts), instead of dismissing based on our feelings.
  7. am I able to read reviews before I eat it? I mean from independent sources?
  8. You know what I think is the most enjoyable part of this question and responses? It is that, yes it is silly and comical because of the ridiculousness of the question, it points out the exact same when applied to blood fractions within jws. I know that is the obvious, but you then have those who will make the disgust look on their face (like they smelled something bad) and explain how child like a comment like this is, not realizing that they are promoting exactly the same position. Not only promoting it, but living out such nonsense. Do not tell the emperor he has no clothes!!!!
  9. Those of you who are jws, why is there not an explanation for this in some publication or questions for readers?
  10. I'll summarize for those who wish not to read the whole post: "Ignore the man behind the curtain " "fake news" "Do not question, just obey" "Satan is just tricking you" Back to your regularly scheduled program.........
  11. Good additional supporting scriptures. It just doesn’t make sense, 1914, there is just too much scripture against that date being when Jesus became king. Then that leads to the question of why would the wt insist on 1914?
  12. wt and jws believe 1914 was the parousia of Jesus and His being enthroned king. After Jesus resurrection He made this statement" 18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. If at this time when He was with the disciples after His resurrection He had all authority, what then is there for Him to acquire in 1914? Isn't "All authority" already the qualities of a king? What more authority is there to gain if He has it all?
  13. you are adding things to His coming. When He comes, it is not in an invisible cloud, it is seen. This part of Him being in unaproachable light, sure if He stays there, but He will not, He will come and be visible just as he said.
  14. couldn't this situation be applied by Hebrews 6? :4 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.
  15. Interesting point, one in which I have also questioned concerning the jws. This semantics of word play of parousia vs coming is only used when the shoe fits whenever I have spoken to a jw. If we look at the context of Jesus' words in Matthew, we see His proclamation against the thought of invisible observance . Matthew 24:23 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 So, if they say to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say, ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Here Jesus is saying that if someone tells you "oh, He's is in the inner rooms, or somewhere else that you cannot see right now", it is a lie and for us not to believe it. This is because He told us that there WILL be false prophets who say such things. Not to mention the whole 1914 as His parousia and being enthroned king. After Jesus resurrection He made this statement" 18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. If at this time when He was with the disciples after His resurrection He had all authority, what then is there for Him to acquire in 1914? Isn't "All authority" already the qualities of a king? What more authority is there to gain if He has it all?
  16. then show me where one must study for baptism. this is right out of the wt playbook. So if Jesus studied, then it is a command to study for baptism? Did Jesus own a cat when He was growing up? Does that then require us to raise cats? no one said that we are not to study! It just isn't a requirement for baptism. I've already said it. re-read my posts, or rather this one and maybe you'll see my point. I doubt it though.
  17. this is a nice example of not defending your position. My experience in "mainstream Christianity" proves otherwise when it comes to shunning. You again have failed to support your claim.
  18. no, I didn't agree with you. You said that pretty much anyone who proclaims God is a mouthpiece for God. I disagree. Matthew 7:21 states exactly my point. Not all who claim to be the mouthpiece of God really are.
  19. ahh I see, no problem. IF you ever do want to explain, I'll listen and respond.
  20. I am just going to answer with this. You can choose to pick it apart if you wish. Were these folks God's mouthpiece based on the criteria you claim? Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
  21. you missed my point because I wasn't clear enough. I did not mean that you resort to a forum to discuss topics. I meant was that you are using the concept of a forum or social space, educational institutions, etc. as oppose to the stance of mainstream Christianity, because you failed to support your claim on mainstream Christianity shun's.
  22. none of the verses you posted state anything close to having to study to become baptized. please explain.
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