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No Convention  Date  Language  Location
1 Augsburg  2017-07-28  German  Augsburg / Neue Halle 5
2 Bingen  2017-07-21  Portuguese  Bingen / Kongresssaal
3 Bingen  2017-07-28  Arabic  Bingen / Kongresssaal
4 Bingen  2017-08-04  Tagalog  Bingen / Kongresssaal
5 Bingen  2017-08-11  German Sign Language  Bingen / Kongresssaal
6 Bingen  2017-08-18  Tigrinya  Bingen / Kongresssaal
7 Bingen  2017-08-25  Russian  Bingen / Kongresssaal 
8 Bingen I  2017-06-16  German  Bingen / Kongresssaal
9 Bingen I  2017-06-30  Italian  Bingen / Kongresssaal
10 Bingen II  2017-06-23  German  Bingen / Kongresssaal
11 Bingen II  2017-07-14  Italian  Bingen / Kongresssaal
12 Dortmund I  2017-07-21  German  Dortmund / Westfalenhalle
13 Dortmund II  2017-07-28  German  Dortmund / Westfalenhalle
14 Frankfurt  2017-07-07  German  Frankfurt / Commerzbank Arena
15 Friedrichshafen  2017-08-04  German  Friedrichshafen / Messe Rothaus Halle
16 Gelsenkirchen  2017-06-16  English  Gelsenkirchen / Kongresssaal
17 Gelsenkirchen  2017-06-23  Greek  Gelsenkirchen / Kongresssaal
18 Gelsenkirchen  2017-06-30  Turkish  Gelsenkirchen / Kongresssaal
19 Gelsenkirchen  2017-07-07  Italian  Gelsenkirchen / Kongresssaal
20 Gelsenkirchen  2017-07-14  Tamil  Gelsenkirchen / Kongresssaal
21 Gelsenkirchen  2017-07-21  Croatian  Gelsenkirchen / Kongresssaal
22 Gelsenkirchen I  2017-07-28  Polish  Gelsenkirchen / Kongresssaal
23 Gelsenkirchen I  2017-08-11  Russian  Gelsenkirchen / Kongresssaal
24 Gelsenkirchen II  2017-08-04  Polish  Gelsenkirchen / Kongresssaal
25 Gelsenkirchen II  2017-08-18  Russian  Gelsenkirchen / Kongresssaal
26 Glauchau  2017-08-04  Russian  Glauchau / Kongresssaal
27 Glauchau  2017-08-18  Vietnamese  Glauchau / Kongresssaal
28 Glauchau I  2017-06-16  German  Glauchau / Kongresssaal
29 Glauchau II  2017-06-30  German  Glauchau / Kongresssaal
30 Glauchau III  2017-07-07  German  Glauchau / Kongresssaal
No Convention  Date  Language  Location
31 Glauchau IV  2017-07-14  German  Glauchau / Kongresssaal
32 Glauchau V  2017-07-21  German  Glauchau / Kongresssaal
33 Glauchau VI  2017-07-28  German  Glauchau / Kongresssaal
34 Hamburg  2017-07-21  German  Hamburg / Barclaycard Arena
35 Hannover  2017-06-23  German  Hannover / TUI Arena
36 Meckenheim  2017-06-23  Russian  Meckenheim / Kongresssaal
37 Meckenheim  2017-06-30  Spanish  Meckenheim / Kongresssaal
38 Meckenheim  2017-07-07  Persian  Meckenheim / Kongresssaal
39 Meckenheim  2017-07-21  French  Meckenheim / Kongresssaal
40 Meckenheim  2017-07-28  Chinese (Mandarin/Cantonese)  Meckenheim / Kongresssaal 
41 Meckenheim  2017-08-04  Portuguese  Meckenheim / Kongresssaal
42 Meckenheim I  2017-06-16  German  Meckenheim / Kongresssaal
43 Meckenheim II  2017-07-14  German  Meckenheim / Kongresssaal
44 Meckenheim III  2017-08-11  German  Meckenheim / Kongresssaal
45 Meckenheim IV  2017-08-18  German  Meckenheim / Kongresssaal
46 Möllbergen  2017-08-04  Twi  Möllbergen / Kongresssaal
47 Möllbergen  2017-08-11  Russian  Möllbergen / Kongresssaal
48 Möllbergen  2017-08-18  Bulgarian  Möllbergen / Kongresssaal 
49 Möllbergen I  2017-07-14  German  Möllbergen / Kongresssaal
50 Möllbergen II  2017-07-21  German  Möllbergen / Kongresssaal
51 Möllbergen III  2017-07-28  German  Möllbergen / Kongresssaal
52 München  2017-06-23  Italian  München / Kongresssaal
53 München  2017-06-30  Greek  München / Kongresssaal
54 München  2017-07-28  Hindi  München / Kongresssaal
55 München  2017-08-25  Polish  München / Kongresssaal
56 München I  2017-06-16  German  München / Kongresssaal
57 München II  2017-07-07  German  München / Kongresssaal
58 München III  2017-07-14  German  München / Kongresssaal
59 München IV  2017-07-21  German  München / Kongresssaal
60 München V  2017-08-04  German  München / Kongresssaal
No Convention  Date  Language  Location
61 München VI  2017-08-11  German  München / Kongresssaal
62 München VII  2017-08-18  German  München / Kongresssaal
63 Nürnberg  2017-07-14  German  Nürnberg / Grundig Stadion
64 Nürnberg  2017-07-14  Romanian  Nürnberg / Grundig Stadion
65 Reutlingen  2017-06-23  Albanian  Reutlingen / Kongresssaal
66 Reutlingen  2017-06-30  Italian  Reutlingen / Kongresssaal
67 Reutlingen  2017-07-21  Russian  Reutlingen / Kongresssaal
68 Reutlingen I  2017-06-16  German  Reutlingen / Kongresssaal
69 Reutlingen II  2017-07-07  German  Reutlingen / Kongresssaal 
70 Reutlingen III  2017-07-14  German  Reutlingen / Kongresssaal
71 Reutlingen IV  2017-07-28  German  Reutlingen / Kongresssaal
72 Reutlingen V  2017-08-04  German  Reutlingen / Kongresssaal
73 Reutlingen VI  2017-08-11  German  Reutlingen / Kongresssaal
74 Reutlingen VII  2017-08-18  German  Reutlingen / Kongresssaal
75 Velten  2017-07-21  Polish  Velten / Kongresssaal
76 Velten  2017-07-28  Russian  Velten / Kongresssaal
77 Velten  2017-08-11  English  Velten / Kongresssaal
78 Velten  2017-08-18  Russian Sign Language  Velten / Kongresssaal
79 Velten I  2017-06-16  German  Velten / Kongresssaal
80 Velten II  2017-06-23  German  Velten / Kongresssaal
81 Velten III  2017-06-30  German  Velten / Kongresssaal
82 Velten IV  2017-07-07  German  Velten / Kongresssaal
83 Velten V  2017-07-14  German  Velten / Kongresssaal
84 Velten VI  2017-08-04  German  Velten / Kongresssaal
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    • @JW Insider Your summary is irrelevant, as I do not make any assertions regarding BC/AD other than their usage by scholars and in history, as you yourself have also acknowledged on numerous occasions, thus rendering your point invalid and evasive. The Watchtower leverages external viewpoints, including secular evidence, to substantiate the accuracy of their chronological interpretations. There are numerous approaches to dating events. Personally, I explore various alternative methods that lead to the same conclusion as the Watchtower. However, the most captivating approach is to utilize secular chronology to arrive at the same outcome. By relying solely on secular chronology, the pattern still aligns, albeit with a distinct interpretation of the available data. Nevertheless, the ultimate result remains unchanged. This is why when you get upset, when you are proven wrong, you, Tom, and those with the authority to ban take action, because you like others cannot handle the truth. In this case, your infamous tablet VAT 4956 has become useless in this situation. I do agree with you on one thing: you are not an expert, just like COJ. However, I must admit that this foolish individual was not the first to debate the chronology with the Watchtower and abandon it based on personal beliefs. He simply happened to be the most recent one that's on record.
    • This person will never give you a direct answer. He's beyond reasoning and only seeks to dodge the truth. The information about the tablet has been available for decades, but I chose to bring it up now to refute previous and current criticisms about the limitations of this tablet. The real issue is that he can no longer rely on this insignificant tablet. It's frustrating how much time has been wasted on accepting falsehoods from others.
    • Maybe I too should write a book called George vs Apostates but actually mean it. 
    • This will be my last point on this topic here, unless you continue to make further references to me, as you have done so many times already.  After what you have said above, this is a good place to summarize the most important points again. You say that the organization holds steadfast to the numbers in the Bible. This is true, because the Bible offers a fairly complete relative chronology with very few places where one must resort to interpretation to complete a relative chronology from Adam to Zedekiah, or even Jehoiachin's 37th year of exile, or at the very latest, 70 years after the destruction of the Temple, referenced in Zechariah 1:8 landing on the . . .On the 24th day of the 11th month, that is, the month of Sheʹbat, in the second year of Da·riʹus. . .).  So there is a long stretch of relative dates. But there are no BC/BCE dates in the Bible. There is no Bible-based way to connect any BCE dates to our day, or even to the time of Jesus. There are no indications in the Bible that would give us the BC/BCE dates. Even the WTS relies both directly and indirectly on records from Babylonian/Persian/Greek ASTRONOMY to link the Bible accounts to any BCE date. If we claim they are from unreliable records, then that means that our own claims about any BCE dates are just as unreliable. So it is wrong to say that the WTS stance is grounded in divine guidance. The Watchtower's BCE dates are grounded in Babylonian astronomy. However, the dates used by the WTS are cherry-picked so that astronomy-based BCE dates are accepted only as long they are AFTER about 560 BCE, and all dates PRIOR to 560 BCE only presented after adding 20 years to them. Personally, I have no problem with the claim that the 70 years of servitude to Babylon ran from 607 to 587. That seems to be the right time period supported by astronomy. [And I have no problem with the astronomy evidence that says Nebuchadnezzar's 18th year was 587, and the astronomical evidence that Darius' 2nd year was about 518, which would explain the other 70-year period mentioned in Zechariah 1:7-12] And if someone wants to start a 2520 year period from 607, that's just an interpretation. No harm done. But the astronomy evidence the WTS relies on to get 539 also shows that 607 was NOT the 18th year of Nebuchadnezzar's as we claim, but points to a year in which there was no such thing as a King Nebuchadnezzar. He didn't become king for another two years.  The claim that the astronomy evidence might be wrong or unreliable is one thing. But it's problematic to claim that only a tiny percentage of that data is correct. Especially because the part we accept is the part that is MOST prone to the errors the WTS makes use of to dismiss the much larger set of excellent evidence. We dismiss literally ALL the evidence which is not as prone to those same errors. We even say we can make "pivotal" dates from the more error-prone evidence, but that we must also ignore the better parts of that same "pivotal" evidence in places where we don't like what it tells us. If we merely claimed that the WTS has divine guidance and that's what it completely relies on, then that might be a difficult concept for some, but it would not be so problematic. It only becomes problematic when we try to impeach the very evidence we make use of. The WTS uses WT articles that try to show that the same evidence might mean two different things. That shows that we somehow "need" the Babylonian evidence to support us. And we have even followed Furuli's folly in order to make a FALSE claim about VAT 4956. This was really disingenuous, not just because  the claims were 100% FALSE, but because VAT 4956 is only one of a dozen different completely independent sources for the entire set of astronomical dates for Nebuchadnezzar's reign.  Of course, I can't fault any of us for not understanding this. Very few of us will try to look into it for ourselves. And I'm no expert, and I fell for the same bits of false reasoning that made me think we were right and the rest of the world was wrong. But it's those false claims that we are right because "the Bible tells us so" or that "divine guidance tells us so" that will continue to embarrass us for anyone who goes to the trouble to check out the evidence. As I said, I'm no expert, but it doesn't take one. It's a very straightforward thing to look up the astronomical evidence for ourselves and tell others what we found. Any junior high school student could do it. You don't need that much education. You don't need to be an expert. So there is obviously a reason that almost no Witnesses will ever go to the trouble of looking up any of the Babylonian observations we pretend to rely on. You haven't done it, or if you have you won't admit what you found. Scholar JW won't do it. The GB won't do it. The GB Helpers won't do it. JWs are intelligent. And yet almost none of them dare to do it. If they do, they don't dare admit publicly what they found out. There are just a couple of exceptions to that rule. And we see what happens to them. As for me, I don't think it's right to learn something and not be able to share it. I think that if we love the organization, if we love the brotherhood, and if we love Jehovah who is a lover of truth, we would share our concerns. We shouldn't want the organization to be embarrassed by having made a man-made obsession about something so trivial and unnecessary. The WTS should never have made such a big deal out of a secular, man-made set of dates.  As for me, I will follow Psalm 26: 26 Judge me, O Jehovah, for I myself have walked in my own integrity, And in Jehovah I have trusted, that I may not wobble.  2  Examine me, O Jehovah, and put me to the test; Refine my kidneys and my heart.  3  For your loving-kindness is in front of my eyes, And I have walked in your truth.  4  I have not sat with men of untruth; And with those who hide what they are I do not come in. ...  8  Jehovah, I have loved the dwelling of your house And the place of the residing of your glory. ... 11  As for me, in my integrity I shall walk. O redeem me and show me favor. 12  My own foot will certainly stand on a level place; Among the congregated throngs I shall bless Jehovah.
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