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[Srecko Sostar]

1 hour ago, César Chávez said:

1 Corinthians 10:10

Paul speaks of the rebellion of the Levites against Moses and Aaron. So it is a struggle for supremacy within the hierarchy. With this example, Paul speaks to the Corinthians who rebel against the counsel and teachings that Paul taught the congregation in Corinth. We can see a parallel because some were against Paul as an “apostle”.
What does this have to do with those JW or ex-JW who do not want to listen/obey to today's "apostles", who are constantly changing their own teachings?

2 hours ago, César Chávez said:

James 4:11-12

WT+GB+Helpers+WT lawyers spiritual and physical deeds are revealed by their own actions. Nobody "slender" them. 

2 hours ago, César Chávez said:

Matthew 7:2

Well, why you find yourself fit to judge me or someone else, than? Or, you think how only certain people in WT have privilege to judge other people in and out side WTJWorg, and  how that certain individuals are in Top Management of your organization? 

2 hours ago, César Chávez said:

When you question one family member, you are questioning all the family as a whole.

So you are in favor of a collective approach? 

Are you willing to bear the guilt of your brother who is a pedophile? Are you ready to bear the guilt of your elders and lawyers lying before a secular court and uses deception to cover up the real situation? Do you want to be judged for what you did not do?

I know of only one man who took the sins of all others and died for it. Are you ready to do the same? :))

[Srecko Sostar]

5 hours ago, César Chávez said:

On 8/1/2020 at 5:12 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

What does this have to do with those JW or ex-JW who do not want to listen/obey to today's "apostles", who are constantly changing their own teachings?

What was the idea behind Paul's ideology? Was it for those that wanted to keep the point of view of the Pharisees, or was it to agree those that objected to sound doctrine should continue in their own path. 

I guess how idea behind Moses's, John the Baptist's, or Paul's ideology or first Christian's people is Holy Spirit. JW people accepts idea how holy spirit is behind their speech, letters, deeds. But GB said how you all who belong to united worldwide congregation of JW's are just "guided by spirit", but not "filled or inspired by spirit". In the same time you all, as leaders and members, continue to claim how all what you teach is and must be "the truth". The truth that can be err, wrong, that need clarifications, that have to be changed because of misconceptions and wrong interpretations, and so on and so on.

First of all, WTJWorg idea how "guided by spirit" is different of "to be inspired or "to be filled by spirit" is missed conception. All three expressions are same in meaning. Manifestations "of spirit" can be various. But JW's wrongly accept idea how "to be inspired" meaning miraculous work, for example speaking in tongues, or prophesied, or healing, or walking on water etc. Even more, JW's think how only text that is written and is part of Bible is only what was "inspired". And how only "spiritual doctrine" belong to thing that is, can be "inspired", and how all that finished in 1st century.  

GB invented conception how "guided by spirit" gives them permission for wrong and err doctrines and instructions that leads millions of people. But in the same time said how GB is FDS and only, sole "channel" in the World who giving "Truth" to the people. Because, as they explained, "inspired by spirit" means "infallibility". :)) ... and on other hand "guided by spirit" means "fallibility". :))

And how no one is "guilty" for "imperfect spiritual food" on "JHVH table" today. No one in GB. But JW members are "guilty" for wrong  understanding  of wrong doctrine (misunderstanding of wrong doctrines). :))

Exodus 35:30-35
Then Moses said to the sons of Israel, “See, the Lord has called by name Bezalel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah. And He has filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding and in knowledge and in all craftsmanship; to make designs for working in gold and in silver and in bronze, and in the cutting of stones for settings and in the carving of wood, so as to perform in every inventive work. He also has put in his heart to teach, both he and Oholiab, the son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan. He has filled them with skill to perform every work of an engraver and of a designer and of an embroiderer, in blue and in purple and in scarlet material, and in fine linen, and of a weaver, as performers of every work and makers of design

These verses confirms view how influence of HS on people can not be limited on things that GB want to limit as HS scope of action in limited particular time periods. In the past or today. 

5 hours ago, César Chávez said:

I mentioned God is the one to judge you especially when you are a former member. What does scripture speak about that?

Actual member or former member or not member at all .... Judge is impartial. :))

5 hours ago, César Chávez said:

On 8/1/2020 at 5:12 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

Are you willing to bear the guilt of your brother who is a pedophile? 

When it comes to spiritual unity, yes! However, when a member resorts to sin on their own, what part of Christ body do you wish for them to be attached to? Does, this mean you are "guilty" for humanities pedophiles?. 

Please, in what kind of "spiritual unity " you are in, with JW pedophiles ? Remember that my comment was about "collective" - 

On 8/1/2020 at 5:12 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

On 8/1/2020 at 2:42 AM, César Chávez said:

When you question one family member, you are questioning all the family as a whole.

So you are in favor of a collective approach? 

Well, your "collective unity" is good until something wrong happened. Even GB don't want "collective responsibility" for CSA cases. They said how that is act of "individual member". And sending WT lawyers to defend WTJWorg before Court on this issue. GB don't want to  "bear the guilt of your brother who is a pedophile" , nor literally neither spiritually, but it seems you are ready.