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  2. AllenSmith

    Ever lose patience with recalcitrant contrarians ?

    I wasn’t going to weigh in, but! This motion is being exaggerated by ignorance. This filing is in its inception of the case. Yet people make it out to be a grievous blow to the Watchtower, and it’s doomed. GROW UP! First, some of you “pretenders” need psychological help, rather than Gods. You have already condemned your soul by “allowing” this SITE increase its revenue for every visit it gets on this, “controversial post” on negative news. You all must be PROUD of yourselves. What “academic” relevance does this news have? Ex-Bethelite, LOL! Second, LOOK at the news source ROOK! I understand you want to claim something here by digging into other people’s trash? Only fools think the Watchtower should be repentant, and to WHAT END! Should the Watchtower accept, and take responsibility for the actions of an individual? That would mean, ALL governments and institutions are responsible for the actions of an individual, and they should ALL be PUNISHED for the action of others. That would mean, I’m personally responsible for the ACTIONS of ROOK! yeah right! There would be no one left. Let me know what part of this world, alludes you all! John 15:19 to understand, you all continue to condemn yourselves for your OWN actions. LOL! Romans 2:1 However, in this REAL world? Each individual is “responsible” for their own actions no matter how hard critics want to make it about the Watchtower. Was Jesus made “responsible” for the actions of his disciples? And therefore, for Christianity? How about the apostles. Did they take “responsibility” for, Jesus actions? Then why did Peter deny knowing Jesus in “fear” of receiving the same fate as Christ? A human condition indicative of an “imperfect” human being. Then, Jesus should have been CRUCIFIED each time, someone did something wrong. He should have been stoned alongside the adulteress, according to the mentality ventured here. What is the possibility of Jesus being killed over and over again? As it is being done symbolically by you all here. Hebrews 6:6 Christians were blamed for the burning of Rome, by being falsely accused by its own emperor, NERO, according to TACITUS. They suffered unto death for that false accusation. Should the Watchtower receive the same judgment from those “pretending” to be part of it? A comprehensive approach is the rule of law. Punish those that have committed a grievous offense according to the “rule of law”. Not by the perception of what that law should be! Sin has “repentance” in it. Can one, forgive a murderer, a child molester, wife beater, etc.? YES! But that doesn’t mean you absolve yourself from that “personal” responsibility to look out for your own, and for those that can’t defend themselves. THAT’S WHAT SCRIPTURE REFERS TO WHEN, REFERENCING, DILIGENCE. Proverbs 12:24, Proverbs 13:4, Proverbs 21:5, Ecclesiastes 9:10, Galatians 6:9, James 1:12, Philippians 3:14, 2 Peter 1:5-7, 2 Corinthians 8:7, Colossians 3:2, 2 Peter 1:10 What does human society promote? Due Diligence. Romans 3:19-20 New International Version (NIV) 19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin. Did the Watchtower FRAME or MAKE up secular rules? What are the differences between Gods law, and secular law, that the Watchtower needs to adhere to, by obeying, first Gods commands, and second, the confounds of secular law? Can the Watchtower, circumvent, secular law, as people subscribe? Is the Watchtower claiming to be above any law? Or do they need to work within the confines of both laws as ascribed by scripture, which they have been doing under the constraints of Gods law, and Secular Law, by NOT side stepping either one of them, with “disobedience” of one or the other. https://www.resolvingdiscoverydisputes.com/abuse/discovery-games-and-misconceptions-are-these-objections-legitimate/ http://www.plaintiffmagazine.com/item/what-trial-teaches-us-about-discovery-2 Here, Bro Jackson was “correct” to say, that’s what happens when secular law attempts to intertwine with bible law. Secular law is blind to the remorse or repentance of a person. These lawsuits are being made NOT to understand scripture, but to empower secular authority through ignorance and absent scriptural understanding. In other words! They’re in it NOT to win it, instead, they’re there to become rich from the backs of others, and at all cost. So, STOP making these cases about scripture, and the spirituality of people, when there is NONE! WITNESS! This forum is commercialized and promoted as intelligent and academic. Failure of both concepts. LEARN THE RULE OF LAW!!! The same STATE of affairs now being considered for a sitting “President” of the United States, by those that look away from the US Constitution due to party control, and from, those that have seen the framework of the constitution to know, this President has “actively” broken the law of the land several times now. Case in point: Michael Cohen. While he is making an argument in a California Court, to FORCE, Stormy Daniels too, “private arbitration” Prosecutors are arguing a case in New York Court, to have the same information needed in California, released for viewing in New York. Both have ties, however, what can be presented in court remains a problem. The FBI seized documents, that CAN’T be seen until a judge makes a ruling. An appeal can be made if the Judge rules in “favor” of releasing that seized information. Can a Judge “compel” yes, but that court doesn’t have the final say. Those documents can be helpful to a petitioner in New York. They have the information. THAT DOESN’T MEAN, THE STATE IS PRIVILEGED TO LOOK AT THEM, until such time the Courts decide. Meanwhile, those documents can go through a screening panel, called (special master) just because that seized material, can contain, “lawyer-client privileged” information that the states are NOT entitled to. Does that mean, Cohen is automatically “hiding” something as ROOK! Suggest the Watchtower is doing? NO! That just means there are protocols that need to be met, legally before anything else can continue. Well, at least you can argue “subpoena” here ROOK! Not that a “motion to compel discovery” is a subpoena, but it can hold the weight of “contempt of court” as a subpoena. But it’s not uncommon? It just means the Plaintiff (Petitioner) is “disputing” what it considers NOT ENOUGH evidence, and the court has decided what it believes is discoverable, and not discoverable under their statute. The petition has outlined what the court is asking the Watchtower to produce. However, several items on the list, don’t need the Watchtower to materialize them, since, some of that information has been leaked to the public by pathetic unethical bethelites, or disgruntled ex-witnesses, and or ex-elders. That’s what a “motion to compel” is. A simple way of having a judge play referee. These are common court practices, and games the Watchtower has to endure and protest just like anyone else brought before Caesar's legal system. Is the Watchtower “playing” the Petitioners game? NO! They are being straightforward with what the government deems “discoverable”. That’s what this obtuse filing is. DISCOVERY MOTION. Could there be consequences in this motion? YES! But there is a clause with the word “MAY”, so, it’s NOT set in stone, as it is with a direct subpoena. The Watchtower hasn’t even “answered” the petition, and if there is something discoverable, I’m sure the Watchtower will comply as it has done in many recent cases. That, a Court attempts to gather information that is BEYOND the scope of that court or plaintiff, is just an overreach of that court, just like in San Diego. Then, the Watchtower has no obligation to satisfy on the whims of the court. That’s how that works, by THEIR OWN RULES!! However, I’m sure the Watchtower attorneys will file their own motion to quash! Any defense attorney will exhaust all avenues, just as all prosecutors will exhaust all avenues before them. Once again, the word is PROCEDURE. You cannot sidestep procedures, just because it’s the right thing to do, in Caesar laws. If you don’t like it, then become a politician, or write your local congressmen to change the LAWS written in the books, NOW!!!!! 8 CFR 385.410 - Objections to discovery, motions to quash or to compel, and protective orders (Rule 410). Judges are obligated to be fair and impartial. As it stands with “SOME” religions right now. ALL government “Judges” and “prosecutors” are showing their bias with an organization they don’t like or care for. Ultimately, another case for the appellate court, and finally, for the Supreme Court to decide. This Montana case you're rambling on about is in its DISCOVERY stage and has a long way to go! REMOVE that ideology, that these Watchtower cases, have criminality attached! To them. Remember, The STATE understands and has invoked their own statutes, so, the court has weighed in on what it thinks is discoverable and not discoverable. The Petitioner has been “denied” certain documents as well. Statutes: Montana Confidential Clergy Communications Statutes Montana Confidential Clergy Communications Privilege Statute MONTANA CODE ANNOTATED TITLE 26. Evidence. Chapter 1. Statutory Provisions on Evidence. Part 8. Privileges. 26-1-804. Confessions made to member of clergy. A clergyman or priest cannot, without the consent of the person making the confession, be examined as to any confession made to him in his professional character in the course of discipline enjoined by the church to which he belongs. Something the US Supreme Court has dealt with for the state of Montana. This statute was first enacted in 1867; its last amendment was in 2009, as part of a gender-neutralization bill. In the 147 years of its history, the Montana Supreme Court has construed this statute in only two cases, one in 1998 and the other in 1999. (Both were criminal cases in which the defendants were convicted of sexual abuse of their respective stepdaughters.) The Court recognized two different approaches to this privilege in other states and chose to adopt the broader (Utah2), rather than the narrower (Washington3) as a matter of public policy and freedom of religion. In both cases, however, the Court affirmed the trial judge's refusal to apply the statute and held the communications to be non-privileged and admissible even on the broader interpretation of the statute. These cases teach several lessons about how to maximize your chance of successfully invoking the clergy privilege at trial. The Watchtower will become its most recent case. We’ll see if the US Supreme Court agrees with the lower court on this one, even though, Montana made a “revision” on Title 26 in 2014, so, that 2009 ruling will be different by the State of Montana’s OWN standard and RULE OF LAW! However, as you can plainly see, Montana has made it, a “catch-22” conundrum! What good does it do to “exasperate” a human condition with human emotion? Colossians 3:2 Sorry to say TTH, I don’t believe any book developed at this point holds value when it comes to understanding, what the responsibility of the Watchtower is, has or holds. None of which was framed by Jesus to be considered in a secular world, other than what it is for our own spiritual leaders to consider by advocating personal spiritual growth, a personal relationship, personal responsibility, and spirituality, within that secular world, as a follower of Christ. That’s the responsibility of a shepherd; the “spiritual” safety, and welfare of the flock, as a spiritual, GUIDE. John 21:15-17 and when people “add” to that collective, as “physical” safety and welfare, it renders both meaningless. Since they are seeing the literal definition of what a Shepherd is. When has anyone seen in the PAST, where the government interfered in a private business with the internal practices of their rules and regulations, that wasn’t directly attributed to the employee and consumer, as, it’s trying now? ALL religious institutions would be exonerated if the government did away with the confessional privilege. However, the Watchtower did not “enact” that privilege. The Vatican did. That “privilege” has existed and agreed upon by, who? The Governments of this world. So, if ALL governments listened to a simple man like a governing body member Bro Jackson? Then the “sole” responsibility would fall on the government. Why haven’t they done it, if the outcry is so great? Why not simply “REMOVE” all the “rights” of private citizens in the United States and across a democratic world. Why, shouldn’t the US government kick down your door ROOK! To take YOU’RE GUN away. If you want to give secular authority, all that power? From “democracy” to “dictatorship” Then, don’t start crying the day it becomes a reality, and they do exactly that, by “ordering” you, when to eat, drink, worship, and sleep; of their own, choosing. Do away with Article 3 section 2 of the constitution. Do away with 5th and 14th amendment of the constitution, since, that is what you people are advocating. Even now, the US government doesn’t assume, too much, since the FCC still holds this jewel. Privacy Protection Sensitive information is usually collected from employees and customers during hiring and business transactions, and privacy laws prevent businesses from disclosing this information freely. Information collected can include social security number, address, name, health conditions, credit card and bank numbers and personal history. Not only do various laws exist to keep businesses from spreading this information, but people can sue companies for disclosing sensitive information. The Federal Trade Commission monitors business practices and charges or fines companies that violate the privacy promises they made to consumers. For example, when a company promises not to use their information in ways other than what is stated, or shares their private information without consent, or monitors customers' online, mobile and/or television habits without informing them in advance, the FTC charges them publicly with such offenses, levies hefty fines and forces the business to change their unethical practices. What, does the personal information kept by the Watchtower about its congregants, considered? Public information? The RULE OF LAW must be applied, in ALL legal matters, for the purpose of “checks and balances” that, govern what people can and cannot say before a court of law. Does that mean the Watchtower needs to assert “confessional privilege” with certain information gathered in private? Once again, the laws are being obscured, by people that simply and “truly” don’t understand, secular law, Between, Montana State, New York State, and the Federal Government, and yet, they feel compelled to give out an erroneous, opinion. What is privileged communication and discoverable communication, according to each state and by Federal Rules? https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_26 https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_34 What do you think “if” this US President has a successful summit with North Korea, and finally brings an END, to the armistice, and brings “peace” to that region by ending the war? Can anyone say? The beginning of the Antichrist!!!!! https://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/world-government/item/the-false-peace-of-the-antichrist-through-a-world-government-2 And you people keep telling yourselves, you don’t see the signs! LOL! 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5 What would the summit have to do, along with the persecution of the Watchtower, you say? End Times! Matthew 24:3-31 ONCE AGAIN, LEAVE THE LAWYERING TO “REAL” LAWYERS!!! Now you can down-vote me ROOK!
  3. The Librarian

    Anneliese Zelina: Jehovah, I’m Going to Put You First

    I have added her to my list:
  4. Like Brownies? ~ Maybe Not These? ~ Illustration!
  5. Nana Fofana

    Did Malachi Have Teenagers? - a Russian Thread

    ouch.
  6. Bible Speaks

    News ----------------------Pray for South Korea

    @william Angisiramo Our support is vital around the Earth! We are a United People under one God Jehovah and will stand up for Righteousness and Dignity through Our God Jehovah and His King Our Lord Christ Jesus! We will shout forever till Jehovah’s Name is Vindicated throughout the Earth! Thank you for your support and prayers! Jehovah Bless!
  7. New post renewed at JW. Org (in English) Will there ever be a world without war? The brochure is protected by copyright in 1992, but has a publication date of March 2018. is also a question of questions and answers that makes me think that this could be a study publication. Initially it was for the Jewish community, and it could still be. I think the original cover was from the Isaiah wall in front of the United Nations. Have given the brochure a new cover Not only the new cover, but the content is completely new, very detailed and enough This is indicated in the foreword to the brochure, which is still available on the cdrom with a copyright date of 1992. Foreword ~ Will there ever be a world without war? - in our times we have seen the most devastating wars that have ever afflicted humanity. Millions of widows, widowers and orphans have come to mourn for their loved ones. At The Madrid Middle East peace conference in 1991, Yitzhak Shamir said: " I am sure there is no arab mother who wants her son to die in battle, as there is no Jewish mother who wants her son Die in the war ". our title is appropriate, will there ever be a world without war? https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/Will-There-Ever-Be-a-World-Without-War/#?insight[search_id]=e08564bb-ab51-438e-b023-92163746b754&insight[search_result_index]=0
  8. Don't get me going on these guys.
  9. Space Merchant

    Jesus' Self-Witness

    OK. Also, Isaiah 9:6, Daniel 2:44, Daniel 7:14, as well as the interesting bit from Zechariah in regards to the Copper (Bronze/Brass) Mountains - in regards to what Jesus said in John 18:36. We also have to remember that Jesus, the Messianic King, is God's chosen Christ and the one to be seated at the throne, or in this case, the throne of David (hence God's promise of a descendant of King David) True, but you have to take into account of Jesus' very command to his Disciples, who in turn, to their students share this information with them as well, hence the early Christians, the early Church. We cannot be ignorant and ignore such things totally - for, it is in the very scriptures itself. We must also take into account also that the Teachings of Jesus is not of his own, nor did it originate with him. Jesus, representative of the Father by means of Shaliah Principle, is the flesh, the man who teachings the Father's Spoken Word, for Jesus himself speaks the Word, that comes from the Father, hence him being in union with his God/Father in Heaven. What needs to be taken into account is what the verses actually cross-reference to. Also, without further explanation I will just post them as is: Cf to John 6:35 John 4:14 - but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never be thirsty again. The water that I will give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.” John 7:37 - On the last day of the feast, the great day, Jesus stood up and cried out, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink. Revelation 22:17 - The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price. Note: The very expression is used twice in scripture, we see it in this verse, 35, and we see it again in verse 48. In this context, life has an obvious reference, and it makes refers to everlasting/eternal life - John 6:40, 47, 54. In this discussion, Jesus refers to he himself as the bread from heaven as we see in John 6:32, and in verse 33 we see the bread of God in John 6:33, and lastly, we see the living bread in John 6:51. We see that Jesus himself points out that the Israelites were given the manna as a source of food while in the wilderness, which we can clearly read here at Nehemiah 9:20. We also know that, if we are to be honest with ourselves to be aware of this passage, that this provided food, manna, did not sustain their lives for very long - John 6:49. In comparison, the followers of the Christ, faithful and true, have the availability heavenly manna and or bread of life - John 6:48-51, 58, which makes it totally possible for them to sustain their lives, thus living forever. They eat of this bread by exercising faith in the power that is redeeming in Jesus’ flesh and blood that he sacrificed. Cf. John 8:12 Isaiah 9:2 - The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light; those who dwelt in a land of deep darkness, on them has light shone. Isaiah 49:6 - he says: “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to bring back the preserved of Israel; I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.” Matthew 4:16 - the people dwelling in darkness have seen a great light, and for those dwelling in the region and shadow of death, on them a light has dawned.” John 1:5 - The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. John 1:9 - The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. John 12:35 - So Jesus said to them, “The light is among you for a little while longer. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness overtake you. The one who walks in the darkness does not know where he is going. John 12:46 - I have come into the world as light, so that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness. 1 Peter 2:9 - But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 1 John 2:8 - At the same time, it is a new commandment that I am writing to you, which is true in him and in you, because the darkness is passing away and the true light is already shining. Note: Jesus, in regards to the main verse, is using a metaphor - the light of the world. He used it to describe he himself may have reminded his listeners about the four giant lamp stands in the Court of the Women: The court of the women (Hebrew: עזרת הנשים‬ Ezrat HaNashim or עזרת נשים‬ Ezrat Nashim) was the outer forecourt of the Temples in Jerusalem into which women were permitted to enter. The court was also known as the "middle court," as it stood between the Court of the Gentiles and the court of Israel, i.e. the court of the men. which were lit during the Festival of Booths , take a look at John 7:2. The light illuminates the surroundings to a greatly and in addition, pertaining to what Jesus had said, light of the world, equals to passages from the foretells of Isaiah, of which spoken of a great light that would be seen by those dwelling in the land of deep shadow and that the one referred to as Jehovah's/Yahweh’s servant (Servant of Elohim/YHWH) would be a light of the nations - Isaiah 9:1, 2 and 42:1, 6 and 49:6. Now let us get on to the Sermon on the Mount. There, we learn that Jesus used the same metaphor when he addressed his followers, saying: You are the light of the world. - Matthew 5:14. That same expression fits smoothly like a puzzle piece in regards to Isaiah’s words about the Messiah, the man who is the Christ, Jesus, being a light of the nations. In Acts 13:46, 47, we learn that both Paul and Barnabas affirmed these prophetic words we see in Isaiah 49:6, practically a command to all followers of the Christ to continue to serve as a light to all the nations. Jesus’ preaching of the gospel and that of his followers would enlighten and show the people spiritually and rescue them from the likes of false religious and or accursed teachings. Cf. John 11:25 Psalms 13:3 - Consider and answer me, O Lord my God; light up my eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death, Matthew 9:24 - he said, “Go away, for the girl is not dead but sleeping.” And they laughed at him. Acts 7:59, 60 - And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep. 1 Corinthians 15:6 - Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. Note: This one is pretty straightforward, I am the resurrection and the life (also before this it is I know He will Rise and Fallen Asleep). Jesus’ own death and resurrection enabled that the dead can return to life. After Jesus was resurrected, His Father, Yahweh/Jehovah, granted him the power not only to resurrect those among the dead, but also to impart eternal life - John 5:26, for just like the Father who has this ability to do so in regards to giving life, he granted such to the Son also, hence what is said in this verse. At Revelations 1:18, Jesus calls himself as the the living one, who has the keys of death and of the Hades (Sheol, Hell, Pit, etc.).Therefore, Jesus is indeed the hope of both the living and the dead. For Jesus promised to open up the tombs and give those in death one thing - life during the time of the new creation, in this case, the new heavens and the new earth whereas Jesus will do as such alongside those who will co-rule with him, under the rule by his heavenly government and the Messianic Kingdom.—John 5:28, 29 and 2 Peters 3:13. Also we cannot forget, that Jesus had God given authority and power. We know this by reading Matthew 28:18: And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." We also get to see it as such as it is referenced here, I believe last time we debated I mentioned this to you and rook, anyways, Ephesians 1:20:21 and Philippians 2:9, 10, which reads as follow: Ephesians 1:20:21 Thanksgiving and Prayer (20) that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, (21) far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. Philippians 2:9, 10 Christ's Example of Humility (9) Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, (10) so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, Actually in Matthew 16:15 he was covering with his disciples, to which he was talking about who the people think the Christ is whereas Peter made his response, since Peter was the only person to bring up said response on the following verse, 16 (Matthew 16:16). His response as followed: Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” We also know that Jesus was also teaching a lesson to his disciples as well in the majority of this chapter, and into what the church actually is. Summarized: The Pharisees and Sadducees Demand Signs 1-4 The Leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees 5-12 Peter Confesses Jesus as the Christ 13-20 Jesus Foretells His Death and Resurrection 21-23 Take Up Your Cross and Follow Jesus 24-28 Outlined: Pharisees and Sadducees ask for a sign from heaven (16:1-4) Jesus warns against leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees (16:5-12) Peter identifies Jesus as the Christ (16:13-17) Jesus gives Peter the keys of the Kingdom (16:18-20) Jesus foretells his death and resurrection (16:21-23) Requirements of true discipleship (16:24-28) Yes, pretty straightforward to: One who exercises faith in the Son will get eternal life, but the one who disobeys the Son will not see life, pretty much not getting the reward that is eternal life, and in situation, they will instead have the wrath of God the Father upon them which will remain. Shaliah Principle and that the Word of which Jesus peaks originates from the Father, for what Jesus does is because the Father is with him. OK. We also cannot ignore Jesus immediate response after what was said in Mark 2:7. When such was said, we see that in the following verse, we read, Mark 2:8: And immediately Jesus, perceiving in his spirit that they thus questioned within themselves, said to them, “Why do you question these things in your hearts? By his spirit in himself and or in his own mind - for Jesus, if we take into account what the Greek says, is in reference to Jesus’ perceptive abilities, in this sense. For he was quick to discern what was said. We also know more about this in regard to what Jesus was able to discern by means of thinking, reasoning, and motives of others - John 2:24, 25. Plus those men, if you check for cross-references were referring to the laws of the land. This is why this very verse (Mark 2:7) points to 2 other verses we are aware of: John 10:33 and Acts 6:11: John 10:33 - The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself a God.” Acts 6:11 - Then they secretly instigated men who said, “We have heard him speak blasphemous words against Moses and God.” There is no question without a doubt that these men were not totally unaware of the laws of which they follow as well as knowing who their God and Father is, since we know in the laws of Moses how forgiveness of Sin went down, bu in the New Testament we know that Jesus, the Son of God, is capable of Forgiveness of Sin also, for we know what and who the Christ is and what is his role, so it is safe to say that these men themselves knew that Forgiveness of Sin requires things such a s burnt offerings and the like, but were obviously astounded by this man called Jesus. Jesus was claiming to the law of the Jews if you are referring to what I think you are, no law indicates a man is and or a God, but rather, a god and or godlike for that is what the Most High had called his children in heaven, as well as on earth, as well as the Jews who abide by these laws, so the reaction of some is no surprise. Anyways the continuation of Mark 2:9-12 it reads: (9) Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Rise, take up your bed and walk’? (10) But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—he said to the paralytic— (11) “I say to you, rise, pick up your bed, and go home.” (12) And he rose and immediately picked up his bed and went out before them all, so that they were all amazed and glorified God, saying, “We never saw anything like this!” (see Matthew 9:33, John 7:31, and John 9:32) Yes, but we should be aware of the reaction itself and not think it to be something entirely different, for instance when Jesus quote what is written when the Jews wanted to stone him to death and the like, as well as their so called influence. Also 2 Chronicles 6:29 speaks of a request for favors in regards to Solomon’s prayer of inauguration, 1 Kings 8:38 in regards to Solomon’s prayer of temple dedication, Isaiah 43:25 is in regards to a people bringing a case against each other. Other then that, it would have been wise to take a read at the references of Acts 15:8 on your part, which is correct, but those point to verses like 1 Chronicles 28:9 and Jeremiah 11:20 to name a few. (I myself will double check the other ones, for they seem odd to be references in your response, but I agree with you on Acts 15:8 for it is, in the realm of hermeneutics, spot on and correct regarding God the Father, however, there are separate verses pertaining to how Jesus also having such ability in terms of reading one's heart, as well as those who acquire discernment and understanding - so I wouldn't say it is limited to God and or Jesus, per-say.) Jesus can understand the thinking, reasoning and the though of men, just like his Father is able to do so as well as those with the ability of discernment to find understanding, something of which that is acquired by an obvious means. I will quote myself from my previous response whereas the following is said: Jesus was able to discern by means of thinking, reasoning, and motives of others - John 2:24, 25. The verses state the following: Jesus Knows What Is in Man (24) But Jesus on his part did not entrust himself to them, because he knew all people (25) and needed no one to bear witness about man, for he himself knew what was in man. Jesus has such an excellent ability to do as such because he was able to discern the thinking, reasoning, and motives of humans, in this regard, regardless of the sex, age, background, experience, status, etc. of said person. This was foretold by the prophet Isaiah, who spoke about the Messiah, for he said: "And the Spirit of the Lord [YHWH] shall rest upon him (A), the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord [YHWH]. And his delight shall be in the fear of the Lord [YHWH]. He shall not judge by what his eyes see, or decide disputes by what his ears hear," - Isaiah 11:2, 3. [A] Isaiah 42:1, John 1:32, and Acts 10:38 We already seen this in action as to what Jesus' actions were in Mark 2:8, now lets take a look at Matthew 9:4, which reads: But Jesus, knowing their thoughts, said, “Why do you think evil in your hearts? So it is safe to say how and why Jesus was able to discern such men who said such things, for the bible teaches such and it can be read in the very scriptures. The truth has been given, do what you will with said truth.
  10. TEXTO DIÁRIO DRAMATIZADO 24 de abril 2018
  11. TEXTO DIARIO con PREGUNTAS para MEDITAR 24 de abril 2018
  12. The Milky Way shining vividly in the sky. Taken during a calm night in the Anza Borrego desert. Michael Shainblum Photography ~~~~ ENJOY ! And more: https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=%2bPYcgIOu&id=6B38F5C299571C89E0B2AD00E47E47A16C2EEA1C&thid=OIP.-PYcgIOujfRgTwrGGyZgZQHaE8&q=the+milky+way+++Michael+Shainblum+Photography&simid=608035833715228790&selectedIndex=71&ajaxhist=0
  13. Queen Esther

    News ----------------------Pray for South Korea

    We have to pray for so many poor countries around the earth... We're doing in our congregation very often But your prayer is very good, Brother @william Angisiramo.... thank you - 17 Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth ! Best wishes and greetings from Germany
  14. Space Merchant

    Which nations disappear in Armageddon?

    Because I know 1 John 4:1 will not be expressed to what it actually means, I will just go ahead and post the following: Beloved, believe not every spirit The apostle having mentioned the word "spirit" in the latter part of the preceding chapter, takes an occasion from thence to return to what he had been suggesting in the "second" chapter, concerning the many antichrists that then were, and whom he points out, and here cautions against. By "every spirit" he means, either every doctrine that is pretended to come from the Spirit of God, or every teacher, who professes to be qualified and sent by him, and to have his light, knowledge, and doctrine from him. Every true minister of the Gospel has the Spirit, and the gifts of the Spirit, more or less, to qualify him for his work; he is separated, and called to it by him, and receives his spiritual light find knowledge from him; it is he that teaches him sound doctrine, and leads him into all truth, as it is in Jesus, and brings every necessary truth to his remembrance; and who succeeds his ministrations to the good of souls: but there are some who call themselves the ministers of the Gospel, who, though they may have some natural abilities, and a share of human learning, and a notional knowledge of things, yet have never received either grace or gifts from the Spirit; nor have they been ever called by him; nor are their ministrations according to that divine word which is inspired by him, nor attended with his demonstration and power; wherefore, though some professing to have the Spirit of Christ are to be believed, yet not everyone; and though the Spirit is not to be quenched in any, nor prophesying to be despised, yet care should be taken what is heard and received: some persons are so obstinate and incredulous as not to believe anything that is declared, be the evidence what it will; as the Jews would not believe Christ and his apostles, though what they said agreed with Moses and the prophets, and was confirmed by miracles; and others are too credulous; at once receive every teacher, and embrace every upstart doctrine: this they should not do, but try the spirits whether they are of God not by human reason, especially as carnal and unsanctified; for though the doctrines of the Gospel are not contrary to true reason, they are above it, and not to be judged of by it, and are disapproved of and rejected by carnal reason; but by the word of God, which is the standard of all doctrine; and whatever agrees with that is to be received, and what does not should be rejected. And so to do is very commendable, as appears from the instance of the Beraeans, who on this account are said to be more noble than those of Thessalonica, (Acts 17:11) Paul and Silas in Berea [Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so] and from the commendation of the church at Ephesus, (Revelation 2:2) To the Church in Ephesus [“‘I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false.] And this is what every believer, every private Christian should do; to them it belongs to read and search the Scriptures, and prove all things, and judge for themselves of the truth of doctrine; and to such a probation or trial of the spirits, spiritual light, knowledge, judgment, sense, experience, and divine guidance are necessary, which should be asked of God, and an increase thereof; and all such diligent searchers, and humble inquirers, are capable of making judgment of persons and doctrines, whether they are from the Spirit of God or not, for the Spirit of God never speaks contrary to his word: and the reason why such a trial should be made is, Because many false prophets are gone out into the world: such who pretended either to a revelation of future things, and to foretell things to come; or rather to a gift of prophesying, or preaching in Christ's name, to be "prophets" and spiritual men, and ministers of the word, but were "false" ones; who either predicted what did not come to pass, or rather preached false doctrine, by corrupting the word, and handling it deceitfully, and so imposed upon and ruined the souls of others, as well as deceived their own: and there were not only one, or two, or a few of these, but "many", as our Lord had foretold, ( Matthew 24:11 [A] ; Matthew 24:24 ) [A] Signs of the End of the Age [And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray.] The Abomination of Desolation [24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.] and which makes the reason the stronger for not believing every spirit, but trying them; and the rather, since they were not sent of God, that is called out by his churches, but were "gone out" of themselves; of their own heads, and without any mission from God or man: and "into the world" too; they were in every part of it, and especially where there were any churches of Christ; into which they first crept in privily, and at unawares, but afterwards became public preachers of the word, and then separating from them, set up openly in the world for themselves. Source: https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/1-john-4-1.html Also that World War III about God's actions comment and the WT source I still await, otherwise I come to the conclusion that your spirit has been tested, and the outcome is indeed not a well received one - should said claims of yours are deemed false, which, seems, evident thus far. The bible informs us of truth and we are not to make any silly outlandish claims on this simple fact. True the nations will rise, but what you mentioned goes beyond the gravity of the situation of things in a different direction.
  15. Thank you so much for your wonderful efforts 

  16. Space Merchant

    KORAH'S REBELLION AND THE WATCHTOWER

    Speaking about Korah, I will just leave this here since it is related to him (people who rebel):
  17. Nilsa S

    Study Material for April 16-22, 2018

    We are told not boost about ourselves, but we must boost about you and your crew how wonderfully you assist us In our studies. It seems the closer we get to the end the more Satan keeps us busier. We must not give up and you help us in this battle. Love your sister. Thank you is not enough
  18. Not sure if I should add her to my list: What do you all think? How should she be listed?
  19. A pregnant Kenya Moore has decided to debut her look-alike sister, Lisa, on Instagram. Over the weekend, Kenya returned to her native Detroit, Michigan and she opted to spend some time with her family. While at home, Marc Daly’s wife and her beautiful sister wore matching coats as they focused on their relationships with God — well, in that case, Jehovah. The star of the hit Bravo reality series the Real Housewives of Atlanta explained that she took the photo at the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses with Lisa. Many fans complimented Kenya on having a sister who also looks like a beauty queen. However, the post also started a lengthy and heated debate on whether or not the religious group is a cult. A person said: “According to Webster’s Dictionary a cult is a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. While attending a meeting, assemblies, and regional conventions, I have never been told to direct any devotion to a particular figure or object. I have always been direct to the John 17:3.” Another commenter shared: “So many ridiculous comments from one beautiful post with her sister. I wish people had better home training. Geeze. The Bible says that unrepentant sinners be removed at 1 Corinthians 5:9-13. This is necessary for at least three reasons: (1) to keep Jehovah’s name free from reproach, (2) to protect the congregation from contamination, and (3) to help the sinner come to repentance if possible.” A third fan had this to say: “I am so happy for u and proud of u Kenya! I have the hate you have gotten thru the years and the way others treat u on RhoA so badly yet u stay beautiful resilient and amazingly cool. Keep doing u.I SEE U. AND IM PRAYING FOR YOU AND YOURS! See you do not know. We do not want heaven that’s a false Christianity thing. Why do you want parts of Pagan celebrations? The true origins of those celebrations do not have any Godly foundation…. But I guess you know or whatever.” Kenya, who is set to give birth to a baby girl later this year, turned off the comments for the post. http://celebrityinsider.org/kenya-moore-debuts-look-alike-sister-lisa-on-instagram-photo-at-jehovahs-witnesses-temple-sparks-reactions-138912/
  20. william Angisiramo

    News ----------------------Pray for South Korea

    I pray Jehovah Our God please help them for they are standing for the truth (John 17:17), for there is no truth in this world.
  21. [Documentary] Our World Going Hungry in Venezuela BBC.... ( sad world ) This is a documentary by BBC World about how venezuelans are struggling with the country's worst economic crisis in its history. Food shortage, inflation, high criminality and more are putting venezuelan on the edge of massive riots throughout the country. Tags: I reported for The Nation in late June, while Venezuela is not “in a state of total collapse,” as per The New York Times and other mainstream media sources, the country is in the midst of a very severe crisis, which is getting worse. Venezuelans are not dying, or starving, or looting en masse. But many, far too many, are suffering. Why? And what could be done to ease this suffering and help Venezuela get back on its feet? These are difficult questions to answer. This is not merely because Venezuela’s crisis has multiple causes, short-, medium-, and long-term. Nor is it because some of the causes, and potential solutions, to the crisis are quite technical. The difficulty lies, rather, in the challenge, and perhaps impossibility, of disentangling the “internal” and “external” aspects of the crisis. To an agonizingly large degree, Venezuela’s crisis is of the government’s own making. Instead of easing or ending it, the government’s actions—and inactions—over the last several years have made it far worse. Yet, the government has not acted in a vacuum, but in a hostile domestic and international environment. The opposition has openly and repeatedly pushed for regime change by any means necessary. In addition to fostering a politically toxic climate, the opposition’s actions over the past three years—its refusal to recognize President Nicolás Maduro’s April 2013 victory, despite absolutely no evidence of electoral fraud; ensuing violence that targeted state-run health clinics and left at least seven civilians dead; another wave of violence beginning in February 2014 that left 43 dead, approximately half of them due to opposition actions; and recent and repeated calls for military and foreign intervention—have also had a very damaging economic effect. The US. government has not only cheered, and funded, these anti-democratic actions. By absurdly declaring that Venezuela is an “unusual and extraordinary threat” to US national security and pressuring investors and bankers to steer clear of the Maduro administration, the White House has prevented Venezuela from obtaining much-needed foreign financing and investment.
  22. Si una hermana tiene un esposo opositor a la verdad...¿ Esta bien que la hermana no le diga la verdad sobre a donde va?.....para asistir a las reuniones y hacer su actividad? 

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    2. Queen Esther

      Queen Esther

      No lo sabía y lo siento mucho por ti :(
      Sí, como pionero, estás mucho fuera de la casa y tal vez él quiera no eso -
      ¡Él reacciona mal, quiere que rompas con el servicio pionero!
      Este es un momento difícil de prueba para ti y espero y ora
      para que Jehová te dé diariamente el poder que necesitas
      Este es Satanás quien quiere atormentarte ahora. Espero
      Puedes hacerlo con la ayuda de Jehová.

      Se bueno con tu esposo, que no tiene nada de qué quejarse.
      Oro para que Jehová te dé diariamente la fuerza que necesitas.
      No te desesperes, querida hermana Raquel, muchas hermanas tienen lo hizo junto con Jehová. Te deseo, estás allí.
      No le de a Satanás ninguna oportunidad, de lo contrario, él será feliz y Jehová estará triste.
      Sí, nuestro tiempo final es malo, en todos los países!

      Si es demasiado difícil para ti, entonces puedes hacer algo
      El tiempo puede ser un pionero de ayuda, y con más paz en la casa
      ¿Eres un pionero de nuevo? Decide con Jehová
      y los ancianos ... ¡Todo el amor!
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      Te deseo mucho coraje y siempre alegría en el servicio de Jehová :x1f64f.png1f601.png

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      ISAIAH  41:10     .•*¨`*•..¸¸.•*¨`*•.

    3. Raquel Segovia

      Raquel Segovia

      Muchas gracias por sus animadoras palabras hermana Queen Esther.....estoy muy feliz de mi servicio como precursora ....no es facil mi situación pero pongo en primer lugar mi ministerio. ...intento estar en paz en mi matrimonio aunque a veces nada alcanza.   Sé en manos de quien está. ..mmuchas bendiciones. .y gracias por su tiempo 💕💕

    4. Queen Esther

      Queen Esther

      Me gustó mucho, querida hermana Raquel
      Espero que Jehová te ayude mucho y te bendiga por los tuyos
      mucho trabajo de servicio El amor es fuerte y Jehová te llevará,
      en días pesados. Te envío mucha fuerza y amor :x  Agape!
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