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But apparently, the opposers of the faith community says so, even as much to the point of trying to justify what they are saying by means of misusing a verse or two, in addition, also making remarks that insult God himself and or mock him and or his Christ. Yes. I gave an example of such a while back regarding smoking, whereas it is not in the Bible at all, however, such can, regarding on said example, can land a person within grounds of excommunication whereas they lose church ties entirely, moreover, the reaction from different church leaders concerning the situation prior to excommunication. It has not, for every church of the faith community have different elders and or pastors with different experiences and levels of how to handle a situation, for instance, back to my old smoking example, one pastor may have been struggling with smoking in his teens, and decides to counsel the sinner who is experiencing the same thing, whereas another pastor has no such experience and sees such as a sin, but later on, makes an attempt to address the issue. Mankind is a melting pot of different people with different backgrounds, surely every church has different people of such, by means of race, sex, culture, what have you although in the same faith, so the experience is vastly different. It is not just misuse, sometimes people go over Scripture to attribute to emotion and or feeling, to justify, which leads to cherry picking and other twisted forms. This is true of the Christ, but his church entrusted his instruction, and you have seen such ones, even Paul, enact such in the church concerning some folks, especially those who think they know things concerning the teachings. That passage is regarding Jesus helping out the man in the Sabbath, more so, that passage is of interest because there has always been debate if Jesus broke the Sabbath or not, even though we are under the New Covenant, people still go about such things. If anything, concerning excommunication and shunning, Christians are able to excommunicate, and it is deemed merciful to sinners and or those who sin. I would like to point out to you Matthew 18:15-18, as is with Paul's example in Romans 16. That being said, regardless of what the person is excommunicate for, there is as well as a window open for those who want to seek entry into the church, to be reinstated, and such ones who willfully do this, will receive help in doing so, as for others, on the other side of the spectrum, there is willful sin, and the causing of trouble, which will evidently lead such a person into the realm of Apostasy. @James Thomas Rook Jr. Didn't we talk about this before? I recall talking about the Second Amendment with you a while back. That being said, regardless if a man has a gun or not, his intent is unknown, he may be a good guy or a bad guy, but that is just surface information, I rather say the mentality aspect of such for another day.

Alan must have confuse this with a different community, I forget whom, but I don't recall such regarding JWs or any Restorationist, be it individuals and or group.

Their problem is not with higher education, the issue of the matter is that they want their faith community to put God first, adhering to the verse in question, Matthew 6:33. The misconception is that they detest and or hate higher education, the thing is, they are not ignorant to the fact that young ones need an income to live and whatnot, therefore must seek out a trade by going to a Technical School, some College and or Uni, etc, some youth out there are self taught and or abide by the trade teachings of their relatives. Another factor is Uni has become borderline "Communist" and the narrative of which they interject into the youth nowadays is a string of ideologies, political grooming, if one is not careful. And some of the college life is brazen and immoral, for any Christian parent wouldn't want to come to the discover of their child doing something immoral, let alone become victim in the colleges, i.e. real life experience, which I had mentioned several times regarding a late friend whose situation blew up resulting in her suicide, and there has been countless examples, especially the one with the case. Higher Education is both a blessing and a curse, as is, very narrow, should one not be as careful. Clearly, you have not scratched the surface of the realm of Uni/College life as have some who look into those things, then again, some of you, Atheists, tend to thrive in all aspects of such, ahem, the athlete and his father regarding one victim... That being said, it is usually women that are often victims in sex/violent cases in colleges and Uni. You either go there to study and work towards a degree for a decent job or you go there to party, and between the lines, there is and always will be consequences, of which the stupid and the ignorant do not know about. All and all, all you got is jokes - no solutions to the problem, reasons why such ones like Mr. Turner nearly got off easy, and those like him.

It's not just JWs, there are Christians who do not celebrate Thanksgiving at all, as is with other Holidays that do not pertain to the Christ or the Church. More so, this day is seen as a Day of Mourning, for some - reasons as to such is written in blood by means of history. Continue to celebrate the festivities, if you wish, you can choose to serve the goddess of harvest known as Ceres, for me, I, like Jesus had stated, choose to serve only the true God, Yahweh - Matthew 4:10; Luke 4:8. Which is ironic because a while back you stated you listen to the Lord, Christ Jesus... That being said, you have to be out of whack to serve and or worship another God because the True God of Israel, if others know this, and even JWs, know this, perhaps you should do the same, which was proven before, you are a mainstream Christian.

So any evidence to this as of late? This is similar to how people accused Tom Hanks in the past, but do not attempt to share evidence of such claim. But from what I seeing nowadays, just as people in today's society uses sex as a weapon, it seems that they are doing the same for pedophilia. It is a shame of how something brought up years back is a reality to the land of foolishness and snowflakes, or in this case, the majority of Americans who ascribe to such.

Same here, but the man is both broken and misguided, and tends to confuse himself at times, even though solutions and examples were given to him. But ill influence is what consumes him, and going about things as a blind man. But I do pity him, although he is as is he is, but the worse among all will have to be the Trinitarian, Cos, who spare lies and deception about the history of the church. Other than that, my concern was with his situation regarding the mentally ill person who he suspects to be succumbing to and or have dwelled upon pedophilac behavior. No information has come out and what he presented before wasn't a tab bit small. What is more worse than child abuse is child on child abuse, the worse kind due to the things involved. That being said, every group has the someone or a collective group that either hates and or supports them. Likewise to ever hero having their own villain, vice versa, the same can be said for people of different groups, institutions, even race if it comes down to it, in addition, such persons tend to go into the realm of bigotry, if need be.

Unfortunately, just as Excommunication is part of the church, The shunning command is also in connection. Therefore, it is no surprise that the JWs are practicing such, as is such has been entrusted to the Christian Church. And I made points on this in the past, as is with sources. That being said, do as the mainstream has done, alter and or tear from the Bible itself of what is entrusted, then you can do as you wish, but at the end, the head of the church is the one of whom such a soul, regardless of sex or race, will have to answer to, and his God.

Funny, but it will not work on a selected few, Mr. K being an example.

That is a very weak response, but on the contrary – it is you who lack regarding the Gentile, Cornelius. I need not give detail about Cornelius because his history is widely known, and I do not pick apart his history to justify man’s way of governing all things pertaining to “unjust” war (or going with what you are conveying), of which you should be aware of, regardless, let alone comparing today’s era to the Roman Empire, which can easily backfire. You throw JWs in here as if the world has seemingly forgotten what God and his Christ is all about, that is, unless you show a verse that says otherwise – of which I am intrigued to see what you will convey. Cornelius (the Gentile) was formerly a Roman Centurion of the Cohors II Italica Civium Romanorum who was stationed in Caesarea, the Capital the province - Iudaea Province. Cornelius was one of the first Gentiles converted to the Christian Faith, as can be seen, by any honest reader, in the Book of Acts. Some even hold to Certain tradition that Cornelius became either the first Bishop of Caesarea, and or the Bishop of Scepsis in Mysia. Other things to note, Cornelius was one of the first Gentiles converted to Christianity. But the thing is, you are of the general bunch – the mainstream. Which is evident due to the fact that in the past here, you’ve have shown such display of such before regarding celebration of birth, charity, paganist silliness, as is with unsound claims, etc. – this is no different. You pointed out Acts 10 as if it is some justification of Christians going partaking in war, something of which we should not be partaking of at all. That being said, clearly you can see in Acts 10, Cornelius became a True Christian, and there is no history of warmongering after his conversion, likewise with his brothers and sisters, they know to serve God and follow his Christ, for they know world powers who commit to war cannot stop mankind’s problems, but rather, it is the Kingdom of God, and the one whom he has anointed to sit at the throne, the Lamb, that is, Christ Jesus. After all, if Christians did go to war, would it not contradict what is said in Scripture (Isaiah 2:4)? And yet the examples continue like that of a rushing river. Jesus commanded us, Christians, to not be part of the world as seen in John 17:16), and as can be seen, war by hands of man originates from the world itself - not of God, that is, if you partake in the "God" of this world, then that is a whole other boîte de pandore. Therefore, it is no surprise that Christians (some Jews and Muslims as well), are neutral, not taking a side politically, protest (Non-Reformationist) in regard to military and or political stances, etc. In addition, Christians do not go to war with other Christians - period. A man of Christ you are, you say, but something of this regard shouldn't be ignored, for just as God is Love, Jesus has this too, and since we are his followers, prophets, Christians, we display this quality too, for as anyone who takes Shema seriously, this is to be put into application. That being said, the final point, which can be made is this, when it comes to the issue of “killing”, it was prohibited, regarding the early church. Be the discussion of military service and or warfare, you do not see Christians partaking in such, especially when killing is in question. There is also no record within the first 300 years of Christianity’s rise that killing was ever a justification of things. The issue of killing was prohibited in every mention by early church writers. Whenever the issue of military service and warfare was discussed, Christians were prohibited from participating. Nowhere in the written record in the first three hundred years of Christianity is killing ever justified. Not even for soldiers. Moreover, to add on in fact, the earliest churches had rejected war and killing in all its forms, and spinning the clock once again, even in the days of Constantine, not one writer has ever said it is right to kill or join the military. So it would seem that Bible Study of yours would need to be evaluated whereas more focus on the facts over feelings in this regard, hence why I can make the point I made about you – the very soul who is among mainstream Christianity (which is extremely evident, hence other discussions, concerning you Matthew.)

@AlanF Correction, fossils do not prove that God does not exist. To stop there makes it as though you dwell on things in the realm of vagueness. One thing for certain, some in the realm of science do believe God exist, and there is more than can be said. That being said, you'd have to do way better than that if you are stopping on fossils. Also I like to point out that Restorationist, as is with other Christian Denominations, and a few among others, are not Creationist. Only Fundamentalist/Young Earthers, and a few Conservatives, are as such. The small reason being is that regarding the Genesis Act of Creation, there's nothing conflicting with scientific facts that has been revealed, more so, the creation account is taking with utmost seriousness. That being said, it is very important to know what a Creationist is and what their beliefs is based on vs. a Christian and or someone of a faith group who does not ascribe to Creationism.

And yet the Prism and South of Baghdad says otherwise.

@AlanF Restorationist do not worship men religiously, despite the fact they too have pastors, priests, etc. Therefore, that claim is absurd. It would have fit the bill if any of them are not of the great awakening regarding Christendom. That being said, points were made here in the past of which can easily and readily can be brought up. @Arauna Unfortunately, no one really cares about pedophilia worldwide, for if that was the case, a lot of things would have been different. They also ignore the fact that pedophilia is a problem in which it invades and taints all institutions, as is with exploiting them. That being said, the irony of it all is those who think they know this world of CSA are the same ones who turn a blind eye to the child and or children turned into prostitutes, pimped out to the rich and wealthy and or some to the middle class, as is with the ones living in the streets being brought into that life.

@AlanF Minority Faiths are not declining, only the major ones. As for the major ones, even to this day, it is being surpassed by some minorities, this includes JWs and Non-Trinitarian faiths, however what is above both major and minor faiths is Islam, whereas in the UK (and or EU), is is rapidly increasing.

Regardless of who you are MSGs are NOT good for you.

@Anna Now that you mentioned it I remember that too. So far no information I had seen in the UK regarding the mental ill person who committed the act. For the past few months I was focused on not just my ministry, but grave things concerning csa in several parts of the world. @Arauna The UK is far worse when it comes to child abuse. So much as so, some even commit the idea that the gov't let's certain folks go, while some who they do not recognize are the ones to be sent away; locked up.

You are high controlled as well. The general public considers Christians as a collective as high control due to the fact we do anything and everything to seek, and or draw close to God, and apply the teachings of his Son, so much as so, as even to mock us. In your case, as per last conversation, the general public mocks mainstream ones even more because they adopt paganism and practices that are not of the church and that are not of Christ - which I pointed this out concerning you in the past, and I can easily link/quote if need be. JWs are as they are because of Restorationism, having a strict code concerning the Bible and it is riddled in their Christology, hence why you have a handful of people who in the general public that does not always agree with them, but point them out as following their roots in Restorationist. In your case, you have creeds, created and formed during a counsel, as for others, they have their start, as is with other Abrahamic Faiths such as Islam. That being said, the Christology matters, always, as is as to why such and such persons as as they are, but in the eyes of the general public, you are just as high controlled as the next guy and will be targeted for not so sound doctrines and practices that never originated with the church, reasons why I often quote and love to use Galatians 1:1-11. The irony of it all, you are the majority in Christendom, and they are the minority - the statistics on who is increasing and decreasing shows.

The funny thing is, this still does not help your case, but rather, it shows how little you know of Cornelius. I can tell you this, his history on how he came to become a Gentile Christian pretty much defeats the purpose of what you are attempting to convey. Your case would have been helped if Cornelius continued his trek as a Gentile Christian, thus shows how little you know of the man, and how little you know of the hermenutics of Acts 10. You have to be very ignorant to think that JWs are the only ones. There are Christians out there who DO NOT SUPPORT going to war, let alone going against a brother of another nation. Then again, you mainstreamers and conservatives consider dropping a bomb on men, women and children is a Godsend, which is a parallel to the early creed followers who think that the death of a Presbyter was something to rejoice about. That being said, if we are to apply what you've applied, it would have branded the common folk as a mainstream Christian - which you are. I am a believer of God and a follower of his Son Jesus, perhaps maybe you should try doing the same thing, or continue to pick and choose, and think that God is somehow OK with such ideology.

France is in shambles right now. To this day the Yellow Vest still march, and as even stated before, which turns out to be true, protests everywhere, in and outside of France. The Americans will get quite the treat in a few weeks, this I am sure of due to the ongoing chaos we see now.

@Arauna Not all educated people know their Bible. Sadly, you have some Christians and preachers proclaiming positive by means of showing that the Bible supports Homosexuality and exploiting the love and forgiveness that is God and through his Christ. But yes, the majority of the world is intertwined with the false teachings of mainstream Christendom, this includes what you've mentioned False teachings, practices, etc of which this world's Christianity's embraces needs to be refuted. Another thing is, false teachings such as these are the very ones that is actually declining Christendom and putting Islam and Spirituality on the raise, so in this sense, Trinitarians are indirectly harming themselves, but makes the job harder for legitimate preachers of the truth to teach the truth of the Bible. The truth of the Scriptures are interpreted differently by some, but the core conclusion is what is needed to be proclaimed in regards to the Bible in order to push out a professed truth - in short, someone may speak of what happened at Mount Gerizim differently and or what is in Revelations differently, but the core conclusion to said teaching is what remains the same, and said teaching must be taught to the people and or the person in the Bible study itself - helping said reader to not just read, but also to apply, and even meditate on what is learnt. Then you have Apostates who teach and twist and even throw in a bit of hate, I had my far share of such ones who claim to be Christian and defend false teachings and preach that Jesus loves everyone and that homosexuality is okay, or the fact that God has no care for the Earth he has created - they are gravely wrong. That being said, falsehood is everywhere, but there is and always will be a small handful of people who will minister and teach the truth, often times such ones are the very ones who are targets.

The thing is what it comes down to is that - is it true or is it alleged? Because when it comes to odd people, people you do not like, and or hate, or have some other reason, there will always be an accusation against them. So, evidence over facts. I prefer it black, no sugar, no nothing due to the fact that I fast for nearly 2 days.

That's the thing - we do not live in a perfect world, but as a man of God, a follower of Christ, you should have the sense to know better during the End Times. Clearly. Not all instances can be stopped 100%. You can save and or help one, but the other you cannot. We as Christians can help people, but we do not take orders of men of the world to strike down another man who is blindly following the same order. The fact you support going to war only adds more fuel to the fire. In this sense, you are among the fold who are very supportive of such. I can tell you this, some in the military that I've met don't always want to go fight, others, wish for war to cease, like you said, "a perfect world", but clearly, the rich and power and Babylon has their ways. Unfortunately we live in a sin filled war. Unlike you I had seen my fair share of blood and death, some I had prevented, but it does not change the fact that I take drastic action that would cause me to strike and kill someone, who is also God fearing. You clearly do not know what happens in war. There are evil people out there. They have men fight and kill other people's sons and daughters, some of their sons and daughters are butchered and raped, and brutally murdered. You can prevent an action in this village, but you cannot in the next. Man, no, mankind cannot solve all problems, they cannot prevent all problems, let alone make corrections and or solutions to benefit all people. You and I both know that is impossible, for if that was the case, we would not have a need for God's Day. Only God and his Christ can solve mankind's problems, the very reason God made Jesus King and has given him power and authority, hence the gospel of Matthew and what we read in Hebrews. Only God's Kingdom is perfect and can cure the imperfections of man, and by means of God's Kingdom, His Kingdom will crush all of man's Kingdoms, hence Daniel 2. That being said, I would also like to point out, of the Temptation of Jesus gospel (Matthew 4:8-10; Luke 4:5-8), what Satan tried to offer God's Son is the Kingdom of this world (governments), and what was Jesus' reaction? He refused and even told the fallen one that it is God that he must render religious worship to, for in this interaction, Jesus, a born Jew, quoted what was written in the Law. So in regards to going to War, as a Christian, the blunt and absolute and obvious elementary answer is - No. Yet again, the line is painted between True Christians and Mainstream Christians, and it does not surprise me in this sense to see why the Atheists nowadays like to make jokes in this case of Christians and War, even to the point some would even point out the fact that Jesus is for guns and bloodshed - blasphemy. That being said, you and I both know this is not a perfect world. Be God fearing and continue to wait for the End Times and Tribulations, try to reach out for hearts - not physically disrupt someone's heart by force and or violence to cease their life, Matthew.

I recall bringing this up a while back myself regarding suicide, as well as suicidal Christians.

@4Jah2me Not only that, something that I've debated on a while back, and others chimed in, you and your enemy are God fearing men who seek God to gain you victory. A True Christian and or someone who has become a Christian and building up in faith would know that War is not the solution, and going to War is wrong, so in the Christians case, even to the JWs, neutrality is something that must be put into application. @Matthew9969 That being said, if one is of God, we do not take the side of men to commit bloodshed on other men. Fighting an old man's war that has no solution, but rather, consequences, and more sons and daughters to be butchered, killed, raped, blown to shreds,tormented, etc. The mainstream accepts this, even marvel at the bombing of men, women and children apparently, true ones do not. When the rich and powerful wage war, it is the poor and the lowly, humble ones that pay for it in death. Likewise with Kingdoms and authorizes, submit, but do not serve them over God himself because it is only God's Kingdom that will cure the sickness that is imperfection concerning mankind.

And after a while, you and Rook has not brought up anything? Concerning child abuse, in the months I was away, what I can say is that there is more stains on the Americans and the British regarding children, and aside from that the same people who cry out and call to combat child abuse often become the offenders themselves and or indirectly encourage and snare. I have a lot to say about this, so I will point this out when I have time. That being said, you learn some things when you are preaching the gospel, and gain some informative insight on the current state of things in today's world.

@Matthew9969 There one for you too Matthew. Now both you and the JWs have some common ground. That being said, you need to understand what a cult is and what a religion is. Apparently, people tend to call anything a cult whereas they don't know what that term entails, let alone, such ones use the word if they legitimate have disdain for or do not agree with them at all, i,e. Muslims consider the Tirune a cult, or taking worship up to Eostre or Saturnalia... There's a bit of irony to that.