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As we can see here, you are not just mixing verses, but solely and ONLY focusing on verses regarding the chosen ones, ignoring any verses and or passages that pertains to those who aren't chosen, but still make up God's people. Not too long ago you posted verses from Romans, Galatians, what happen here? Also this time around you are silent on Galatians 3 whereas Paul mentions those being in union with the Christ, ironically enough, you put heavy emphasis elsewhere in an attempt to destroy God's Order of this with your doctrine. Well of course. The New Creation does consist of both the chosen ones and those of God's people who will inherit the earth and have eternal life. It is an error on your part to even cite this verse, granted, this speaks of both groups that make up God's people, and not solely the chosen ones who will reside with the Christ. We know this because marginal references to that verse Such as Ezekiel 37:27 - My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. (of course one of several dozen verses) For the context of Scripture tells us that all things are anew, the new heavens and the new earth, that make up the new creation concerning the Christ, El Shaddai, God himself, will reside with those who worship, him, who also puts faith in him, love him, a relationship that is like that of having one with your Father, God. For God will be there and always be with his children, hence what he has provided, his Kingdom, with a chosen King, and by means of said Kingdom, the plague of death and outcry will be no more, as is with all things that causes us of mankind pain. That being said, I suggest you read the verses again, for it does not solely speak of the Bride, for we know what the Bride's position is, perhaps take into account of those who are not chosen of which death will not cause them suffering. M. Henry pointed out that he presence of God with his people in heaven, will not be interrupt as it is on earth, he will dwell with them continually. Aside from that, you claimed to be one of the chosen ones, or anointed ones. Despite this claim, you as a chosen one, failed to see the the prophetic vision of Revelation 21:1-4 that yields the promise concerning the new creation, it does not consist of only the bride, granted that in this small passage it does speak of the new earth bring of this new creation. It concerns mankind as well, for the chosen ones, eternal life is given to those in the spiritual house who have suffered - mankind, for they shall receive the hope of what the Christ spoke of concerning life, living forever, being restored and live as an earthly society, a society of God's people, his children. But this point has been easily shattered by means of what had already been addressed, for I will quote it here because you purposely ignored it and stated I do not believe in something that I have preached and am very vocal about. Like Jesus, I uphold this, as is church has done, as I do with Shema Yisrael. Perhaps next time if you make the claim that there is no Scriptural Support for something, perhaps check the Bible to see if it is actually not there. Granted you like to link Bible Gateway, I will do the same so you can see the passage and the references line up to exactly what I have been conveying. Therefore, it makes you a hypocrite to say such a thing when it is there before you. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+31%3A31-34&version=ESV https://biblehub.com/sermons/auth/conway/the_new_covenant.htm To say something is a like and yet not give evidence to said claim only shows us here you have played yourself in this sense. But I do invite you to try your resolve at proving what I am saying is a lie when there is ample Biblical Evidence before you, so I say to thee, come then, so called chosen one, come have your resolution. That being said, the leaders of Judah also thought Prophet Isaiah was rambling about, but unknown to them, Prophet Isaiah speaks the truth, although being repetitive. So then, point out to anything that I said that was a lie, otherwise, it can easily be seen, and 1 John 4:1 being in application, that you spun your own wheels of deceit, especially when our older discussion can easily be linked that is identical to this which shows us you contradict yourself and express nothing more that strong-willed confusion. Granted by means of what God has done to the wicked as seen and read in the Old Testament, stemming from the promise of what he will do to repair mankind due to Adam and Eve's sin, what do you think Jesus, who is made King and spoke of to be a might warrior would do to the wicked? The Christ has battled against Satan and his demons in heaven, for he fought with the angels of God against the fallen ones. So in short, an example, those who commit vile acts of sin, the common things we discuss here such as violence, abuse and world powers committing things that effect those caught in the crossfire, you tell me, if all these people who has done willful sin, all their acts willfully, what would the Christ do to them? The claim of you watering down Christ' kingship is evident, but here you are open to answer to question of what Jesus will do to those who willfully sin, as is, with demons and Satan himself, you tell us. That being said, the one who believes literal stones can preach about Jesus, although he agrees with you, he will not chime in at all, for he made his peace with his own ignorance. Also I actually do, hence why I spoke of Jesus' mediatorship, and how his death enabled the New Covenant as is with what took place just days after his death concerning all Christians who are in union with him, and his teachings. You only pull information from verses concerning only the chosen ones and ignore other followers of the Christ, for instance, what Paul has addressed to the church of Corinth, those members he was building up were not among the chosen, but they are of God's people, they are of that same house, those who will soon have eternal life. You yourself had quoted Galatians 3:28-29 many times despite your deluded vision of God's Order in past discussion. That being said, if you knew the core doctrine concerning the New Covenant, you would not have left out the other faithful servants of the Christ who believe in God. Ironically enough, what you didn't realize I paraphrased some commentary, included the one you favored so much, which reveals you much of what you had said originally.

The problem is the one who has initiated the debate doesn't know how to conclude to claims by his own word. Until a donkey is seen preaching about the Christ then the claim would be true, however, this information is unfounded, yet claimed. That being said, this isn't the first time I have been in a debate, and I know legitimate judges for debates, there example puts the fool in his place.

@JW Insider Yes. Spiritual Israel is made up of all of God's people, all under one teaching of the Christ, all in union with Christ, and like him, they too have the fullness of God dwelling in them, and each and every single one of them dwell in the Spiritual House as is with God's Temple, that is, the Christ. I have my reasons for defending even the minor things of the New Covenant due to how mainstream Christendom has tainted it, and I am not the only one who defends such as well. And there are those who speak wrongly of the Covenant wrongly, and far worse and in this regard, the correction by means of the Bible must be made. But for someone to not recognize those who are in the same house, it is an insult for those who share in the same teachings that stem from Christ, Jesus. The fact we no longer require stone tablets or animal sacrifices should be evident.

Not really, because there is no Biblical Evidence of Ba'laam's Donkey preaching any gospel of any sort. Therefore my statement is right, and the response you made to my statement was incorrect. EDIT: of course that is all you can do, laugh, and consist to appeals of motive, something that a true stupid one will do. For all unwise ones who willfully speak in their own ignorance are stupid persons and nothing more. In short, you've played yourself. That being said, I enjoy a clown making a fool of himself all the more because it shows me how little said clown knows Scripture.

(especially of a priest or minister in a church) to give a religious speech: Did Ba'laam's donkey preach the gospel of the Christ? The answer would be No. Therefore this statement I made is true: So can you please answer your claims because now we see cowardice upon you of your own words.

@Srecko Sostar I stated animals cannot preach the gospel, and yet you said they did, according to the Bible. Stop running from your claims and answer them lol. Also, the biblical definition in respects to the Strong's gives us the answer: https://biblehub.com/greek/2784.htm Lol, nice try to with the common English Dictionary though, I got a laugh out of that one. Mind you, you ignored the main context it tells you on the front page - that is hilarious.

Gladly Concerning what I had said when it came to preaching about the good news gospel and the Christ, this is what you said: My response that day to Rook: Animals cannot preach the gospel, understand and learn about God let alone teach it. Highlighted in red is what you pulled and said the following as seen in this link below Not really because you did proclaim this and stated that this was according to the Bible, immediately after I had said animals cannot preach the gospel. If you actually felt this way, you should have said this from the start. I can see through the assumed alligator tears of which you convey. Keep telling yourself that: That being said, please address your claims, for all of them are still unanswered.

When children are taught things, they apply quickly, this is one of many examples.

@Srecko Sostar Appeal to Motive or the Deus ex machina motive will not work anymore. Please answer your own claims for they remain unanswered, as already pointed out. For another time, you started such claims, not me, show respect to your own words by answering them with total honesty.

And these are the very teachings that is on a strong decline. Falsehood of mainstream Christendom is dying, hence why they have a strong grip on attempting to save themselves. Such falsehood has prompted many to speak against it, I myself, comrades of mine such as the late warrior of Christ, Soulja and Solider of God, Kel, etc.

Among every pocket of society, of man, no matter the race and or sex, background ,etc there are those who willfully sin, those who willfully lie, those who deceive and spread forth deception and a list of other things. Such ones hide among good hard working folk, and these same good folk become pawns and or victim, be it man, woman or child, they are all targets of the wicked ones of lawlessness. And even among God's people, there are those who proclaim they reside in the Temple of God, but preaches another doctrine to befit emotion, to deceive and a list of other things, cherry picking and deviating from God's Word, his Order, his Truth. All such ones they will be found out and they will pay when they are before the white thrown of God. Numbers 32:23 - But if you will not do so, behold, you have sinned against the Lord, and be sure your sin will find you out. As Christians, true and faithful, who take up the New Covenant that came forth by means of Jesus, to take his command concerning the commission and what promises await us as God's people, it is our job to proclaim the gospel of the Christ and the news itself to the people, and with this information proclaimed to them, by means of their free will, it is for them to decided to on God's side or on the side of lawlessness. As is said by many of us - The truth has been given, do what you will with it. Because at the end of the day, God places only 2 things before each and everyone one of us. Life and Death As to the chose, it is up to the person. All man is imperfect, and among us there are those who commit brazen and disgusting acts, violence acts, deceptive, etc. But at the same time, there are those out there with good intent, some although misguided, they are good folk who needs the message of which Jesus commanded us to proclaim by means of the Commission. That being said, you give a tool, a hammer, to a good man so he can build a house, this same tool you give to a bad man he will threaten and kill with it. The hammer is merely a tool, but the intent of man, be it good or bad is visible, and it shows just how far today's society actually is, in a sense, a literal good vs. evil scenario, hero vs. villain sense. A man who sins or teachings falsey out of willfulness, will only have this to hear from our Lord Jesus, Matthew 7:23 - And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ The Kingdom of God is not for those who willfully go over and or is against God's Law or his Christ.

But none of the verses you gave lines up with your claims? i.e. a donkey and literal stones found on the ground and on walls preaching about Jesus Christ before the Messiah was even born. There is no command. It is of what the Bible says is true. Using Appeal to Motive does not work anymore and yet you continue to use it. You started the debate, I did not. We can see evidence of you starting said debate when you chimed in 2 days later. We can also see by means of your responses you further pushed yourself into said debate with questions and claims. Therefore, you allowed the debate to take place, not me, for my corral was with the Trinitarian. And I do not make up the rules of debate lol, for if that was the case, I would not have linked literal information from an actual Debate Judge. A debate is won whereas the opponent fears and or cannot answer his own claims let alone address questions, thus putting you at fault here. Mind you, we use the Bible only, and even the Bible alone you show yourself to be in quite a bit, no, a lot of struggle, on your part. There is always insult in debate, I had only used lite and cheeky remarks, more so, according to the Bible, it does speak of ignorant people, depraved ones, ans stupid ones. If stupid ones speak in err, someone who knows the truth of the matter can make the refutation, rebuke even, if need be - of which I had done with you. But you had done FAR worse, and one can see that by simply looking you up. Personal happiness for speaking the truth about the Bible? Weren't you the guy who said a donkey as been preaching about the coming Messiah? I call it like it is, it is willful ignorance and stupidity, there has been others who had seen this thread, your comments, and they said the same thing. I do not think any screenshot of what they had to say about you will help you sleep at night. That being said, you make claims you cannot cash, you only laugh knowing you, casted stones upon yourself. But your originally claim and response was of LITERAL stones preaching about Jesus Christ. Also seeing that you agreed with Witness on the other thread, you do not believe in the truth about the New Covenant either, for both of you were against what it coneys as both of you were against God's Order. I would not take this from Witness concerning another response you made, therefore, said response makes that belief of yours and abomination. And yet this debate was solely about the Bible and only the Bible. You kept going into the direction of the WT and JWs because every time you say something along the lines of err and stupidity, you are always quick to bring them up, and in every single claim of yours there is no evidence to what you had said. A fallacy upon a fallacy, driven by depravity and stupidity leads one to ruin and utter embarrassment, especially if this is willfulness. That being said, you have brought up claims by your OWN word, why do you fear to answer them? Let's hear it from you: NOTE (before you answer): Before we start, let me tell you what a fallacy is. A fallacy is a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument. It also means a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid or faulty reasoning; misleading or unsound argument. Number 1: Can you point out and quote ANY of my fallacies regarding our debate? As a bonus, I want you to quote the so called "interfaith dialogue" I am speaking. Can you show evidence to this claim? Number 2: Then show us this evidence regarding the Donkey and the stones preaching the gospel truth, Screko: You said according to the Bible, so surely to you, you may have something to say rather than run away from the very words that you said. Number 3: So show us your evidence that a Snake was preaching some sort of gospel: You stated that the snake in the Garden of Eden was preaching a gospel, according to the Bible as you said. The word gospel as defined: [1] the age concerning Christ, the kingdom of God, and salvation. [2] one of the first four New Testament books telling of the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ [3] an interpretation of the Christian message Number 4: You said I suggested whatever it is you are referring to, this so called simplified edition article editions you speak of when all that I said comes merely from an ESV Bible, and my 2 minor sources being Wikipedia, and an English Dictionary (evidence of this is on page 2-4 of regarding our debate), and nothing more. Can you quote anything from me in this debate that I had suggested simplified edition articles as you claim? If not, you must make Satan very proud to add words to someone's mouth. As a man of God, I do not add nor do I take from God's Word, and had been very vocal of Deut. 4:2. For these points, 4 of them, addressed to you, of which you made claim of, remain unanswered. So it would be wise on your part, the starter of this debate, to answer such that was engineered by your own words.

You can spell it out all you, want, but all things must be in accordance to what the Bible message conveys. God never [and never has] allowed Satan to have dealings with King Hezekiah, David, nor did he have Satan have dealings with the Israelites. In Hezekiah’s case, what holds you at fault is the existence of the Assyrians attempt to cover up what happened that day, both written and physical evidence in this regard - thus putting you in err. Because you are ignorant. If God says or does something, who are we to go around his Word, let alone take and or add to it, which is against God's Law? We already see an example with Spiritual Israel whereas not only you ignored those of the spiritual house and insist only the chosen ones are of this house, you deliberately stated there is no Bible evidence to what is said, and yet we have everything concerning the New Covenant in the Bible as evidence. In addition to that, you were the one who originally discussed those of the Spiritual House months ago, only this time, you decided to cut out those in union with the Christ and proclaim only the chosen ones make up this fold, which this claim negates what we see at Pentecost and elsewhere. And no, it is not un-christian to call out the truth in the face of lies. For instance, if someone such as yourself preaches defilement of God's Order, a real Christian would speak in refutation to your false doctrine, with Biblical support to back it up. Therefore, I see no reason for a follower of the Christ, a man of God to speak up, defending the New Covenant with full force. That being said, so it is ignorance, willfulness, when the Bible informs you on Spiritual Israel. But you haven’t, you merely see "Destroyer" and say it is Satan without looking into the passage in question. In this sense, you pointed to the idea that God somehow allowed Satan to do whatever concerning Hezekiah and concerning Israel. Why would God’s own adversary, who caused Adam and Eve to disobey Him, somehow help God every single instant, when it is he who is both slanderer and resister? You haven’t proven anything because I asked you who the destroyer is. The Bible even tells you that the Destroyer in both situations is an Angel of God. If we want to get fancy we can take up 1 Corinthians 10:10, which points back to Israel under temptation, which is a direct mention of Numbers 11:19, 20 and 31-35. Some other examples, 2 Samuel 24:15 - So the Lord sent a pestilence on Israel from the morning until the appointed time. And there died of the people from Dan to Beersheba 70,000 men. Note: Due to a King's error, the punishment received due to sin was 3 days of pestilence. 1 Chronicles 21:15 - And God sent the angel to Jerusalem to destroy it, but as he was about to destroy it, the Lord saw, and he relented from the calamity. And he said to the angel who was working destruction, “It is enough; now stay your hand.” And the angel of the Lord was standing by the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite. Note: This angel was sent by God, and it was seen by David according to verse 1 Chronicles 21:16, for it stood between the earth and the heaven, with a drawn sword in his hand stretched out against Jerusalem. 2 Kings 19:35 - And that night the angel of the Lord went out and struck down 185,000 in the camp of the Assyrians. And when people arose early in the morning, behold, these were all dead bodies. Note: An angel kills 185,000 men of King Sennacherib's Assyrian army, thereby saving King Hezekiah and Jerusalem. Even the references point to the truth in this regard: 2 Chronicles 32:21 - And the Lord sent an angel, who cut off all the mighty warriors and commanders and officers in the camp of the king of Assyria. So he returned with shame of face to his own land. And when he came into the house of his god, some of his own sons struck him down there with the sword. Isaiah 31:8 - “And the Assyrian shall fall by a sword, not of man; and a sword, not of man, shall devour him; and he shall flee from the sword, and his young men shall be put to forced labor. So your claim is incorrect, for the only Destroyer here is an angel who was sent (Shaliach Principle; of which they are ALWAYS UNDER), in Hezekiah's case, one Destroyer was the Assyrian Army, the other, being the angel sent by God, as Isaiah 33:1 points out for directly speaking about Assyria. That being said, in none of these verses, does it point out, that this angel was Satan, for only you are making these claims. More so, you haven't answered the question from out last discussion, as how can you give a prisoner the key to his own cell? As far as anyone knows, Satan the Devil is not under Shaliach Principle, he is against God, and he does not serve God. Even when Jesus told him that it is only to God sacred service must be rendered, we already can read of how that turned out. Matthew 4: 10 and Luke 4:8 (God's Law Exo. 20:3, Deut. 5:9, Deut. 6:13 [Shema], Deut. 10:20) We already know who Spiritual Israel is. The problem is, you purposefully ignore that Spiritual Israel consist of all of God’s people, not solely and only the chosen ones as you proclaim, which puts your past statements into contradiction concerning the Spiritual House, that of Spiritual Jerusalem. And you have proven my point, look at the reference. The new creation belongs to all, not only the chosen ones as you claim. As is with God's Israel, is for all, those on earth and those who are chosen. Therefore, this verse only shows you to be incorrect from your main response concerning Spiritual Israel. Exactly, and correct. But granted your main response, you do not truly agree with this verse, if you ignored those who are not chosen, but are still in union with Jesus Christ. Exactly. The heirs are both the chosen ones and those who will reside on the earth itself and cultivate it, but again, you stated that only the chosen ones are of Spiritual Israel, ignoring those who are to cultivate the earth, the same people who they themselves have faith in and are in union with Jesus - the reason why your response is put into question. Correct, for we are the heirs, all of us, union with the Christ, all of us, in the Spiritual House, all of us are in the New Covenant. Jesus is speaking to Jews who were under bad influence, and this verse not as relevant to what is at hand, thus the claim of mixing verse of which you have been accused of many many times is evident. Jesus made a point here concerning the whole passage at hand and his talk with the Jews, that his Father is different from their Father. They were unaware of what Jesus met, despite them continuously claiming that their Father is Abraham, a friend of God, more so, since they are literally his descendants, they felt that they are of the same faith Abraham. And this is where my point stands and there is Biblical support to such in which you had said there is nothing. Understanding what the Bible conveys about the New Covenant, concerning Abraham, he [Abraham] is the Father not only of his natural and or biological offsprings who were loyal and faithful to God, but rather, of ALL followers and disciples of Jesus Christ – The point in which I conveying with Bible support, the same notion of which you reject, but ignoring those who are in union with Christ and your continuously ignorance on those who are not of the chosen ones, but still followers of Jesus Christ. In that verse, Apostle Paul points out that Abraham began to show faith before undergoing circumcision, hence what is conveyed in the previous verse, Romans 4:10 How then was it counted to him? Was it before or after he had been circumcised? It was not after, but before he was circumcised. For this reason, this made Abraham the Father of uncircumcised non-Jews, which are obviously referred to as Gentiles, and these Gentiles, who are heirs of the promise according to Galatians, are the same ones who put their faith in our Christ who is Lord, Jesus. Therefore, the Church of the Christ is a diversity of Jews and Gentiles, in this regard, in Rome and it is further to the fact that their faith, as well as their obedience prompts them to call Abraham their Father. Romans 4:17 - as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”—in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist. Which can be traced back to Genesis 17:5 regarding what God had told Abraham, that he will make Abraham a father of many nations. For from this promise was the very reason God had changed the name of his friend, from A’bram (Abram) [אַבְרָם] to Abraham [Heb. אברהם], meaning “Father of many [a Crowd/multitude"], evidence to his name can be seen here in the Strong's: https://biblehub.com/hebrew/87.htm That being said, we know that Abraham was the Father of Issac, as well as the Father of Ishmael, who he himself fathered 12 chieftains, more so, many would say that Arabs originated with Ishmael. The promise consists of not solely chosen ones, it consist of all followers of the Christ – again, do not ignore those who are of God’s people, consider them, for they too are of the New Covenant. Romans 4:16 - That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring—not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, Exactly, but those of Spiritual consist of all persons in union with the Christ. But you had professed earlier that only the chosen ones are of Spiritual Israel, missing the mark on what the New Covenant is all about. If you read the passage, you’d realize that those of whom Apostle Paul was message was towards every single person in the church of his fellow friend who is in Christ (Philemon 23). The Letter of Apostle Paul to the Colossians, also called The Epistle of St. Paul the Apostle to the Colossians and it was developed theology of the letter, many believe, indicates that it was composed by Paul in Rome about and or around 60-62 AD. The Greek New Testament writing was addressed to the Christians at Colossae, Asia Minor, whose church congregation was founded by Paul’s colleague, Epaphras (who remained in Rome at the time), who was a minister of high faith and a follower of Jesus Christ, a preacher the good news gospel, acquainted the Colossians with the kindness of God, and the very focus and or foundation of towards establishing the church congregation in Colossae (Colossians 1:4-8). Not really, considering the Church of Colossae consisted of all persons, the whole church were not chosen ones of God, pockets of them among the fold were followers of the Christ, and worshipers of God and they themselves were still having some issues, granted the early days of this church. There is more to it, if you considered the letter in full. Which proves my point. God’s people consist of every single person in the Spiritual House, all of whom, who are under the New Covenant. Which proves my point even more, as is what we had originally discussed. It is not unknown and or alien to anyone that the Priesthood are of the New Covenant as well, likewise to the the meek ones. They too are of Spiritual Israel, as is with God’s people, who make up those who will inherit the earth itself. For if you had forgotten, the chosen ones are not the only ones who uphold faith in Jesus and worship his God. Remember what Paul made mention of, those of the nations who are heirs? Of course not. Read Galatians another time. And the only Temple of God belongs to both, this alone puts your original statement on your other thread concerning the Spiritual House into contradiction, for, you even pointed out that all those in union with the Christ are of this house, which I agreed with, at the same time correcting you are your mixing of verses. And now we see here you go over what you had said originally, which shows you do not fully grasp what this verse conveys. I haven’t twisted for speaking the truth. You yourself had twisted the truth by purposely not acknowledging the fact that the New Covenant consist of ALL of God’s people who have faith in Jesus, but you preach that it is only the chosen ones who are of Spiritual Israel. Therefore, you had twisted the truth, more so, even much we can go back to your other thread to see how much in err you truly are. Another point is, you claim that there is no biblical and or scriptural support concerning the New Covenant, and yet it is there in the Bible, mentioned in the Old Testament, and mentioned again as well as set in motion in the New Testament, which shows here, you truly do not know 100% what the New Covenant even is, resulting in what I stated to you earlier before you deviated from the question at hand. Therefore, you claim that you are chosen, but do not recognize the heirs that sit in the same house as you, the same temple? How can you be chosen and have this type of mindset, let alone cherry pick and or twist the very things of God? That being said, if you really upheld the truth, you would not speak slander and buy into lies only to later come with some excuse, this is concerning all of the discussions with you, more so, another, who also says he is chosen put you to question in an older thread. After all, you made did speak an untruth concerning the discussion, when you said the following: and But as we can see, I do believe and always will believe what the New Covenant entails, and will always defend it, as seen here before you made such slander The irony of it all, although you tried put yourself in err regarding Spiritual Israel, you slipped up on your own proclamation on page 1. We do not need links, we solely need the Bible. Also, your link only addresses the chosen ones, the focus here is Spiritual Israel, all of God's people. That being said, the questions addressed to you, I rather you answer them. Because if the Bible speaks truth about those in the New Covenant, and you say something different – who is truly at fault here? For you had already lied by telling the boy I do not believe what the New Covenant conveys, when I had told you what it was all about even before you made that lie, more so, even in the past, I was vocal about the New Covenant, as is with those in it who are doing the Commission. Therefore, it cannot be believed that you are of the chosen ones, and if I had to compare you to someone, Warrior of Christ, who is legitimately one of the chosen ones, he himself, while in life, knew very well what the New Covenant is, and unlike you, he does not ignore his brother and or sister who is in union with the Christ. But, since you insist... You can address the questions, because they still remain unanswered:

Most Trinitarians pretend that such things do not exist, reasons why you never here them speak of those who were in control of the church and held religious office in said church. Apostle Paul speaks of the church, and he even mentioned Clement of Rome, as can be seen even in the Bible. Philippians 4:3 -Yes, I ask you also, true companion,help these women, who have labored side by side with me in the gospel together with Clement and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life. Clement, like Paul, was a faithful Christian, in union with the Christ and his God, and was on Paul's side concerning the good news gospel hence their situation in Phillippi.

Hell is not the lake of fire... Nor does God condone fire torment because he emotionally reacted to it as well as drove it out the land; punished people for it. If you want to slander God with the teachings of demons, I will not allow it and you will easily be refuted again and again, Deserter. And what he said is not hypocritical because Jesus as commanded the church do continue teaching, this is ever so evident of what can be read in Acts 2, but last I checked, Trinitarians don't like Acts 2 and pretend it does not exist. No wonder the MSC is dying....

Witness knows I believe this, he only says I do not because what I say is indeed true concerning God's people. Witness' absurd claim that Spiritual Israel only consist of the chosen ones is false and there is no Scriptural support whatsoever, granted that God's people consist of ALL persons concerning the Christ. What puts Witness in Hypocrisy is because in the past, he made these claims, his only err was mixing them and twisting them about, namely Galatians 3:29. So in a sense, it shows that Witness slanders even in the face of Scripture and still holds claim to be a chosen one. A chosen one of God does not succumb to ignorance, stupidity and hypocrisy. True they are imperfect, but to stoop this low is jarring. That being said, I will always believe and uphold what the New Covenant represents. Shema Yisrael, follow the foremost commandments and all things that hang by it, adhere, obverse, apply, teach and preach until the Lord of you and I comes, until the Lord is tasked by the Father, Yahweh, to return a second time to bring forth justice and save the righteous and meek from wicked captivity. Witness does not have eyes to see because the truth does hurt when it is proclaimed. According to the Bible. God sent an Angel, referred to as an Angel of Death to take out the Assyrian Soldiers. This information is not alien to anyone and to atheist they pretend that this did not happen. God taking action saved Hezekiah and his people from the hands of the Assyrians who were really going to do some damage because of how Hezekiah and company resisted and held firm. The God of Israel had spoke with both Moses and Aaron, giving them instructions, and from said instruction, to be passed to the Israelites. They were to take a healthy male sheep or goat, to slaughter and take and splash its blood on the doorways, which can be seen here Exodus 12:3-7 3 Tell all the congregation of Israel that on the tenth day of this month every man shall take a lamb according to their fathers' houses, a lamb for a household. 4 And if the household is too small for a lamb, then he and his nearest neighbor shall take according to the number of persons; according to what each can eat you shall make your count for the lamb. 5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male a year old. You may take it from the sheep or from the goats, 6 and you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of this month, when the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill their lambs at twilight. 7 “Then they shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and the lintel of the houses in which they eat it. In Hebrews 11:28, Apostle Paul later wrote of Moses. And going back to Moses once again, Moses knew that he can trust God and that God was indeed trustworthy in every sense, and he continued to and has built a strong faith in God and his promise, which involved the situation we see playing out regarding the sons of Egypt as read in Exodus 11-12 concerning the angel of whom God sent, the angel of death, otherwise known as the 10th and final plague: Death of firstborn: Ex. 11:1–12:36.

Are you sure about that? And it is not the first time I mentioned this. That is funny because originally you only spoke of the chosen ones and solely them being of Spiritual Israel whereas the Bible tells us it is them as is with those who are in union with the Christ, granted what was stated by me earlier: For a so called chosen one, you sure are ignorant, foolish and quite stupid and contradictory to your own words. And as always, you mix verses, as well as not understand the hermenutics of what a verse and or passages conveys. That being said, Satan is indeed the Father of the lie, to which I agree with you on this. The fact you lied concerning me not believing in something I had proclaimed strongly, especially the foremost commandments makes you nothing more than an obvious slanderer, a demonic one at that, for it was mentioned to you and you blindly ignored and attest to a lie that holds no merit. Very unwise. The fact of the matter is God indeed saved King Hezekiah using an angel to take out the Assyrians. Why would Satan want to rescue a faithful servant of God, the same one who prayed to God for help as seen here? Then Hezekiah turned his face to the wall and prayed to the Lord, saying... Pretty sure Satan the Devil was not his Lord, let alone God would not said his own enemy to save his own follower, vice versa, Satan would want to destroy God's people, not rescue them. Your problem is with the fact that God being capable of taking out his enemies. God even stated in the Bible he is capable of destroying his enemies if need be, as well as rescue his people. The Assyrians themselves were the very ones to make fun of and even mock God's people and if God did not take action, Hezekiah would have been suffering before death and may end up with the Saul treatment. I suppose according to you, Satan took out Sodom and Gomorah as well and nearly Nineveh? Refuted with one link to a discussion of which you lost. I remember that one question you also avoided; of who gave Satan the key to his own prison.... But according to the Bible, the Son will come in the glory of his Father to take out the wicked. You said before you do not water down Jesus' Kingship, but you are still doing this now. That fact you do not understand what your Lord and King is capable of puts you being of the chosen ones to question, perhaps, nothing more than misguided soul who does not know what the Bible conveys. But you have made lies in the face of the truth, even more so that you make claims and use slander when someone spoke a truth in front of you. The truth is, Satan is not God's ally, of which you alluded to several times. And according to you, who destroys death and who destroys Satan? The Bible tells us who will remove both parasitic plagues to mankind once and fore all. That being said, I think your biggest fear is the fact of what God can do and what Jesus can do concerning the wicked. As much as I dislike the slander, the misguidance, and the demonic banter from you, I have more pity compared to some of the few. But the prophet of God as is with others, own word stands true in all things concerning what God will do and what he will put in place to deal with those who do bad to mankind. Psalm 94:23 - He will bring back on them their iniquity and wipe them out for their wickedness; the LORD our God will wipe them out. Psalms 145:20 - The LORD preserves all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy. Mind you, this is but 2 of many verses.... And to quote you there is.... My words, no, God's Word, concerning such. That being said, the questioned posed to you have not been answered...

I am asking you WHO is the destroyer, I did not ask you to quote verses. I have reasons for asking you a question you avoided in our last discussion purposely. God would never give Satan the satisfaction. And according to Scriptural Evidence, God did not send Satan to attack the Egyptians as you claim, and, to quote you, there is no Biblical Evidence to such. That being said, that would make God's Adversary more of a friend than foe, according to your logic. Not really because concerning the question it is neither God or Jesus.... Nice try though, so I suggest you attest to the question rather than dance around what the Bible actually says. Which brings us back to the question. Who was the destroyer?

This is Yacob/Jacob, not Jesus. Jesus himself as been called the firstborn of creation as well as the firstborn out of death (out of the dead), and evidence to such is that Jesus himself is the first of the Firstfruits. How so? Incorrect in every sense. The Textus Receptus is not the original, and or the later manuscript sources, which is known to everyone to have been corrupted. We have the original early manuscripts concerning such that proves your claim as nothing more than a fallacy, and it only too a single minute to point this out. 2 Cor. 4:4 and Hebrews 1:3 are also marginal references that also holds more evidence. That being said: The Father takes delight in the Son. The Son marvels and rejoices over the works of the hands of the Father.

@admin Or.... They finally do meet the person, face to face or at a distance, and their thought process reads... (yikes, this is NOT what I expected). That being said, love always has it ways.

Well it was bound to happen. But some people say it did not happen while the comic book community says it did. I guess Grace from Beyond the Trailer would have a word regarding this.

That is why his claim can be evidently destroyed by means of what an Interfaith Dialogue is, as shown here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_dialogue That being said, it is funny how he mentions this, yet he accepts God's Order being nullified by men and brazen conduct to enter the church. He speaks of ill doctrines yet he follows them. For he is a Satanic hypocrite to the highest degree in this sense. But it was a stupid and weak move on his part when he makes this claim against someone who has been proclaiming word and voicing themselves against the Interfaith, such as Kairos, Peak, etc. We never forget 2016, we never forget Ted Turner's words at the UN, for it is burning reminder that such ones, the powers that be are a threat to the people of God. He never clicked the link because he knew that claim of his backfired. Always, and forever, avoid the interfaith. He is too blind to even see that. That being said, this is true- the honest Bible reader can discern this for themselves, even if that reader is a child, they can see what is conveyed. The truth will always hurt, it will always sting and will always give scar to the ignorant one who does not know or is willfully evading truth.

@TheWorldNewsOrg That is insane, and can you imagine that not in slow motion dare I ask? Looking at this, I find a video of something similar:

Anytime, but that being said, you still need to voice your claims, and every single time you avoid and run from the very things you said. Ok let's see what you have to say. And I am a debater, not a judge of a debate, for what I link are tell tale signs of a losing debater, and only the loser. And I love debates, be it in them or watching, I mentioned this before... In a debate, even those on the winning side can spit a few insults, unfortunately I am not on the losing end. I suggest you look into some debates, a notable debater being Ben Shapiro, Br. Myatt, Masur, etc. The irony is in a debate, one can see who actually wins by means of 2 points: [1] Contextualizing what it means to meet your burden of proof, i.e. arguing in favor of a framing device that acts as an evaluative mechanism for proving the truth or falsity of the resolution or topic statement. [2] Proving that the topic itself meets that contextualization, i.e. that it meets the criteria you've set up for proving the resolution true. I even told you from the very beginning, even a seasoned debater can be unpredictable and can insult their challenger, but evidently not to the extreme, for me, I merely played on your Biblical Intelligence, for even the Bible speaks of stupid persons concerning what is true and what is false, what is wise and what is unwise, etc. Therefore, you can be called as such if you are making absurd claims that are not even Biblical. That being said you missed 3 points that fits you perfectly lol: #3: False equivalence aka comparing a counter-argument with something abhorrent #4: Tu quoque or “What about-ism” - straying away from the topic and saying “look at this”, “but what about that”; a diversionary tactic. #5: Appeal to motive - implying that the opponent seeks to gain something due to their stand on the issue You fit all 3 of such while being on the losing end, so much you cannot speak a single thing without using JWs to help you out. More so, you stated I am using articles, I am using Interfaith Dialogue (I got quite the laugh out of this one granted the source linked by me proved you wrong), etc, with no evidence to claim, therefore, if a debater can call you ignorant, or stupid, or silly, etc. Then what they are saying is true. You also show anger and frustration granted that A - you voted down someone who was speaking to me and only me and B - you had copied and paste your idiot filled claims elsewhere. The fact you willfully shot down a spectator/onlooker shows you have lost from the get go. That being said, the article is indeed correct, when a person loses a debate, such points showed by them by their words etc. And to this day, we still never found out your claim about donkeys preaching the Christ, the most sillies thing I had ever heard. This one is a nice one, also you do not even know what Deux [Deus] Ex Machina even is, which makes it all the more amusing to see you struggle in this debate. So I ask you this question: Can you point out and quote ANY of my fallacies regarding our debate? As a bonus, I want you to quote the so called "interfaith dialogue" I am speaking. as well as the "article" claim made by you. This I got to see, especially with my history of fighting the interfaith, I want to see from an ignorant person, you, of this so called claim you speak of. Let's have at it Srecko. I can quote some of your fallacies, here they are: NOTE: Before we start, let me tell you what a fallacy is. A fallacy is a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument. It also means a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid or faulty reasoning; misleading or unsound argument. Then show us this evidence regarding the Donkey and the stones preaching the gospel truth, Screko. You said according to the Bible, so surely to you, you may have something to say rather than run away from the very words that you said. I an assure you, even this claim of yours sounds very stupid when read out loud. So show us your evidence that a Snake was preaching some sort of gospel, Srecko, otherwise unfounded claims such as this shows us, no, it exposes you to be nothing more than an ignorant lair concerning the Bible of which you lack. The word gospel as defined: [1] the age concerning Christ, the kingdom of God, and salvation. [2] one of the first four New Testament books telling of the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ [3] an interpretation of the Christian message As we can see, the snake has never preached about the Christ let alone speak of the good news gospel, more so, the snake was not spreading a Christian message and or a doctrine. The truth of the matter, according to the Bible, according to the book of Genesis (Torah) is that Satan had used the snake to deceive the first woman, Eve, resulting in her and Adam's disobedience. You said I suggested whatever it is you are referring to, this so called simplified edition article editions you speak of when all that I said comes merely from an ESV Bible, and my 2 minor sources being Wikipedia, and an English Dictionary (evidence of this is on page 2-4 of regarding our debate), and nothing more. Can you quote anything from me in this debate that I had suggested simplified edition articles as you claim? If not, you must make Satan very proud to add words to someone's mouth. As a man of God, I do not add nor do I take from God's Word, and had been very vocal of Deut. 4:2. That being said, show me, Srecko Sostar your claim. Let's see it, show me any of my quotes in this debate that shows "Interfaith Dialogue" when from the get-go I am only using the Bible. That being said, we can see earlier you tried to steer into the direction of the WT and JWs in order to not be focused on solely a Bible discussion, for you had been exposed for the simple fact that without JWs in your dialogue, you have nothing - and it shows. If you cannot answer what you yourself had said, well, that link only proves to everyone here that you not just started a debate, but you lost it by not in mere defeat, but throwing yourself into your own ruin and peril of depravity, so much so you resort to a copy/paste shenanigans elsewhere by means of your own fumes. That being said, address the questions posed in light orange. Check mate

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