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@James Thomas Rook Jr. What? Cannibalism? The Baptism's origin in general began with ritual washing, to the Jews known as the Mikveh, to John the Baptist, it was more than baptizing people in regards to repentance of sin, it is more of passing from death unto life, as in biblical context can be seen from a bird's eye view of the Jordan River, as professed by a Hebrew Professor I had mentioned before. I can go on in further detail, but I will keep it brief until I see Srecko's claim, which will evidently be lackluster when the Mikveh and what we see in the Didache can easily be used here, in conjunction with my response on child baptism, as well as being against infant baptism.

@BillyTheKid46 Exactly. Regarding what took place, the MSM has been concealing a bit of information regarding Epstein. No mention of the Sweet Heart Deal and how that turned out, let alone the fact the involvement of others. Money talks, and always will, and the money is unclean, and the money Epstein has accumulated is a mystery, but we do have an idea. But sadly, this man, who has thrown teenage girls into sexual immorality, even using said girls to recruit more because it is said he cannot get enough, will be shielded by the powers that be.

@James Thomas Rook Jr. Yes, but my focus was on sexual abuse, forcible rape, etc. There is also a low to high ratio regarding a demographic, be it race, sex, location, etc. But it seems some people are too comfortable hiding underneath the rock they are sleeping under, not realizing what is going on in the world today. What makes this even more disgusting is the fact that the source was more direct towards pedophilia group known as NAMBLA, hence the video I linked to Butler who has gone off to the looney bin. What I can dug up on this group, source says: The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a pedophilia and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States. It works to abolish age-of-consent laws criminalizing adult sexual involvement with minors and campaigns for the release of men who have been jailed for sexual contacts with minors that did not involve coercion. The group no longer holds regular national meetings, and as of the late 1990s—to avoid local police infiltration—the organization discouraged the formation of local chapters. Around 1995, an undercover detective discovered there were 1,100 people on the organization's rolls. In 1997, NAMBLA was the largest group in IPCE, an international pro-pedophile activist organization. Since then, the organization has dwindled to only a handful of people, with many members joining online pedophile networks such as DanPedo, BoyChat, and Annabelleigh, according to Xavier Von Erck, director of operations at the anti-pedophile organization Perverted-Justice. As of 2005, a newspaper report stated that NAMBLA was based in New York and San Francisco. This group is often overlooked because crimes against children in every nation runs rampant in every nook and cranky, in every institution. More so, there are those who seek to encourage relations with children as if to make it common, something that I spoke about briefly before concerning groups such as the LGBT community. In addition to that, those of us, me included, who speak up on the matter are shut down while they give so called praised to their young champions, and they do this when they take down one of our own, i.e. soph. Statistics aside, these crimes are indeed vile, but the only thing we can do is teach and prevent, as well as show comfort and compassion by whatever we can give should we have to deal with the aftermath. Good people are the ones who yield good results. That being said. Rook, it is only going to get worse, especially the fact the victory we had this Monday will open doors, big doors.

Ok... One cannot be racist if they do not discriminate, and or attack said racist, as granted by the definition of racism/racist. Stating something factual granted by sources such as, let's say a second time, The FBI, another being Child Abuse and Neglect Prevention sources, and the like, all within the United States does adds to claim of the statement being true, for among all races, the demographics shows clarity of sex crimes being committed mostly by whom. But in the end, as for everyone to see, it seems you consider the FBI racist, and the Child Abuse Prevention sources, also racist with that depraved mindset of yours. That being said, the need for you to even utter that just shows how absolutely triggered you are because of something stated that is 100% true regarding you. Well of course, I was born as such, I do not toot a horn loudly because of it. Quoting a source that speaks of 80% of sexual crimes being down by Caucasian/white males is merely statistics regarding race, for not too long ago when we discussed demographics of church adherents, you yourself brought up race and sex. So why is it this time you are banging your head on the roof regarding such? Evidently attempting to recover after being exposed, it seems. That being said, all statistically demographics mentioned, the age, race, sex, place of dwelling, etc, depending on what is there and what the onlooker is trying to look for, an example would be an educational institution, is it high in rank or low? how is the education? How many Hispanic/white/black/Asian/native students? And so forth. This same demographic is projected with sex crimes, even that of child abuse and the sex and or race of the abuser in certain areas, namely in question, the US. As far as I know, you do not even live in the US, granted the findings were solely in the US alone. And your point? Even with recorded information people can twist the narrative, i.e. information exposed to said child so they realize what is happening to them. I do not see you using Tom's logic because Tom is intelligent even to know what racism means, referring to a demographic that filters everything by race from highest to lowest concerning sex crimes does not make someone racist, as you claim, which further thickens the plot to your, dare I say, stupidity and ignorance in this regard. Accusing? I am merely following the findings of the FBI and Child abuse prevention sources concerning sex crimes against children, nothing more. You only stated this because yours sins, in this regard has found you out, Numbers 32:23 - your sin will find you out. Sources such as the FBI, sources such as child abuse prevention sources. Not to mention, they also refer to who is targeted the most and how critical sex abuse crimes are in certain areas of the US, and other areas, for instance, as I told you before, it is far worse in the EU vs. the US due to high child grooming, pedo rings and what can be pulled from any research into the whole pizzagate dilemma. All races are listed, from highest to lowest of course. True. ??? How it is more than that, Butler, do the research. Yes, but the statistics show them low in number, especially for sex crimes. They are close to native Americans and Hispanics. All races deal with it themselves and or report it. So that in of itself is a silly question to ask. There is however, vigilante justice, some of them going about it the wrong way, committed by all persons however. Actually there is, 80%, according to the FBI in relation to sexual crimes. I do not listen to anything that has swearing, cussing, etc. I do this for Bible-wise reasons, as well as cultural reasons, so if it is explicit, I do not stick around to listen. Likewise to Joseph and Potiphar's wife, regarding music, I do the same. I take my faith seriously, so anything that will hinder it, I avoid. I know the point regarding rape and sex crimes in the US and other parts of the world, but I do not listen to content with explicit in order to gain said message. You can do whatever you please, Butler, go for it, but I follow the Bible. To quote you: Spiritual Wisdom. At least now we see who is putting your own words into application. Probably because I am? And I care why? A a single JW listening to profanity filled banter does not define all of them. But you continue to put everyone into one basket, ignoring the fact you made a mockery of a 16 year old kid. Hypocrisy on your part, Butler. And my sense of care is at an absolute 0... Granted to a single person does not define the masses. Tell me something I do not know. I think you answered your own question. But the fact you listen to unclean music puts you in this category. And yet a single JW in the US does not define the masses. You are stepping o legos with your silliness, John. Ok. But if the meaning contains profanity and slurs, you listen to it anyways as God watches you? Tell me John, is listening to music that contains profanity just or unjust? Not really. Ok. The FBI must be racist then. Either that or you are as dense as the stone ruins of Babylon. Learning and doing research does not make me superior to anyone. Because I am on the right path concerning the fight against child abuse and you are not does not make me above anyone. Yes, I am just a man. A man of God. That being said, go educate yourself on what racism is. You are only lashing out because of what was mentioned of you, i.e. you mocking a teenager. I also suggest you do more research on sex crimes in the United States, do this first before you research the UK and the EU because here, for all to see, you are as ignorant as Esau in this sense.

Actually there is, to anyone who is a hearer or professing the word, who is capable of understanding such, can seek baptism as an acknowledgment that so and so is committing to doing the work for God our Father and take up the teachings of the teacher, or in this case, alluding to the history of baptism, The one who is baptized takes up the teachings of the teacher and so forth, do the same with disciples under them, and their household, the teacher in question is Jesus. Yes, and it is reasons as such Baptismal Regeneration exist as well as infant baptism, in addition, sprinkle of water when Scripturally, and even in the Didache, you are to submerge the one who sought baptism. As is was done in the days of the Jews into the days of the Christians to this very day, it must be done. Animals cannot preach the gospel, understand and learn about God let alone teach it. One who is to be baptized understands the word of God, they understand the teachings of his Son as well as understand what God's Kingdom will do, and they will profess the gospel truth itself. As far as I know, animals cannot do this.

And yet you have no evidence to your claim? The irony of such is you left out the history of the baptism, which proves to me, once again, you cannot hold your own if the the discussion is about something biblical and or regarding the Bible. And no, that is an idiotic response, granted with what I had stated on occasion already: Do know nothing about following Jesus' example, granted with various comments coming from you, even shot down lessons of the Christ and God's own followers, for you to speak of understanding what the teachings profess shows stupidity on your part when you strongly lack. That being said, no baptism history or origin and no mention of the Didache, not to mention the laws all profess of which given to them by God; I am giving you a chance to redeem yourself before you make a total fool of yourself, Screko. lol And also, Roman Catholics baptize infants, who cannot profess their faith or their belief in God.

Come now now, not all Germans are like this. The actions of a few does not define the masses, Rook. That is like saying all of Modern Day is Israel is for Benjamin Netanyahu (The man who is hates and is scared of Iran) when a good percentage of the Israelis are against him and do not support him, yet the MSM defines all regardless. That being said, regarding Germans, this comment reminds me of a situation in Hamburg back in 2017, again, good Germans who were against the bad Germans, with a few Westerners caught in the middle, one notable Canadian has to turn her shirt inside out and braid her hair while hiding to remain incognito.

Banner? No group as far as I know do not have a banner expect those who use the pagan images which spouts idolatry. And I had told you before, you ask again because that is all that you are limited to. That being said, under Unitarianism, I am a Biblical Unitarian, born into, baptized into at 6, raised, etc. one who takes into account the study of Theology, which also includes the study of Restorationism due to the fact that they originated in Christendom by means of the Great Awakening in the 1900s. You've addressed this several times, in one instances you even put into question as to why I study and do research on other faiths, for I do such due to people who slander and those who twist what the Bible teaches. Unitarians, well the Biblical Unitarians are Semi-Restorationist, due to the fact what we professed is traced back to the teachings of the apostles and the church, something of which I addressed before in my original and first debate/discussion I had here with the Trinitarians twisting things about the Council of Nicaea, for we believe in pre-existence Jesus, and we are not fans of the King James version of the Bible. That being said, out of mere prediction, you will ask this same question, as is others, months from now.

@Srecko Sostar The sources explains Restorationist, and the question you asked as been posed before, 4 times I believe. Restorationism is more so dealing with the early church itself and abiding by what the church of the Christ as taught. Interfaith is the fact of unifying all religions under one banner, something that is what we are suppose to be against, for Washing DC 2016 is a hellish reminder of such.

The thing is, as much as we fight against it, those in support of teaching the children sexual immorality will attack us for it, reasons why we take the alternative root to educate and train both children and adults to flee from ill sexual desires and influences. One thing I mentioned before is Gang Stalkers, whereas their goal is to influence and sway their victims into sexual interaction and or intercourse, evidently out of wedlock, and for those who are dating and or are married, adultery. For example, let's say Gang Stalkers converted to the JW faith, for their intent will not be in the faith community, but any sexual partners they can influence, which leads to sexual immorality if the target in question is subdued by said influence. Gang Stalkers in this regard do not care if someone in your house has deceased, they do not care if anyone you know is injured badly, they think of one thing and one thing only. Then you have those in today's society enlisting and recruiting young ones, young girls being targets. That being said, people use to mock older brothers and even fathers for protecting their daughters, but such ones do not see as to why we do this, why we act as a barrier between them and those who eat and drink at the table of those who sees immorality as something that is "ok and fine" in their eyes. These people are living in slander and do not know the taint they consume on the daily basis by means of today's so called voices to preach immorality. A bit of off topic because this was one fight that us Truthers fought in and gain victory over the truth. Also, the Truthers have achieved absolute victory yesterday! The very man we had spoken about for years, time and time again as the MSM continues to shield him, the many times rich people defended him, even judges and the like. But yesterday we have won, and can not go pass the door of which we have been trying to access to take-down more foolish sadist persons who had tormented and manipulated young girls, branding them as prostitutes and nothing more. Mind you, as much I do not side with Alex Jones, he was right about such 20 years ago. But even today, this is just a won battle because the MSM not only now speaks on Mr. Jeffery Epstein, they are hiding critical information in which we Truther's are pushing out. Alan Dershowitz is the step door in this battle to exposed more vile persons in this case. In short, we Truthers, the very ones mocked for speaking about Jeffery Epstein in the past, are now seeing justice. But still, the powers that be and the political global mafia, coupled with corrupted persons in justice gave this man not only a sweet heart deal prior, but they will try to make his punishment less painful apparently. But this is just a step into exposing more vile persons because this man was the biggest fish in the sea for us for these past few years. They're also afraid to give this guy bail, and they made quite the discovery at his NY place of dwelling.

@James Thomas Rook Jr. Truly, truly I say to thee, very wise words

I find this rather odd coming from a man who, not only mocked a blood relative of a teenager (judged him when you [Butler] said you do not judge without knowing), but attempt to mock him by means of what he has experienced and used Ebonics in a form of mockery against said teenager. Even before that you made a comment about one's in the feeling of inferiority because of said color of person's skin when the person merely made a remark of specific ethnic groups adhere to Scripture. Do not be a hypocrite, Butler because it only takes a single quote, a single link, to exposed your hypocrisy in this regard which is very high and quite visible should the situation calls for it. Now, do you even know what racism even is let alone what it means? Allow me to educate you. Racism by definition is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. The secondary definition would be the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Stating something straight from either statistics and or the FBI, as well as Child Abuse and Neglect Prevention sources, does not make one racist (granted you are ignorant of the term). Truly, that statement of mine is indeed true, 100%, (I paraphrased it from the information we have available to us regarding such). The majority of pedophiles who commit child abuse, the majority are Caucasian/White Males (Heterosexuals), majority of them being fathers, uncles, brothers, etc. What I did not mention, purposely, is this is the case also with persons who identified themselves as gay (Homosexuals), who, again, majority being Caucasian/White Males who are the very ones in the high mark who commit said crimes of child abuse. I know you hate demographics because at times it makes you visibly appear foolish, for no one has to see you in person, but can see this through your reaction by means of your response, more so, you once claim you knew a lot about what is going on in the US, alluding to the fact, but the fact you are unaware of this, shows ignorance, on your part, and I haven't even mentioned EU or the UK yet, in addition, it further brings to question now your past comments regarding abuse in other nations of which you claim you were aware of. For it speaks for itself, this is not counting the rich and the power who partake in pedophile rings, human sex trafficking, etc. Next time, before you make ignorant response perhaps do some in-depth research first regarding these things in the United States. Because stupidity will only yield someone to refute you very easily, and even outside Bible discussion and Christendom, it seems you lack here also, and make silly comments towards someone who has been a Truther in reading into this stuff for a very long time. 80% is indeed a big number on Non-Hispanic Caucasian/White Males regarding pedophilia and forcible rape, child abuse in conjunction with one another, for even that of a father and or uncle in the US who commits such. Hispanics, Blacks, and other groups fall behind in this regard. That being said, those who really fight against this stuff are aware of such, which proves my point of people, such as yourself, who are merely keyboard warriors who have never been in such a fight against child abuse pedophilia at all. Lastly, I did you a favor, here is the word Racism in the dictionary: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism Also, 2 Pac? for what? And absolutely random (and speaking about infants, it seems you are unaware of the baby situation in the US too if we were to discussion this). I find it hilarious you even linked that video and everyone is now aware you like your music that isn't clean, which is a direct call back to when I brought forth God's Word concerning you and the profaning/defilement of your mouth, let this be a reminder: If you have children, I hope their mouths are as clean as yours, as well as their ears. Granted, if you even had the care to teach such lessons while tooting the horn of spiritual wisdom of yours.

No, not over the top. The first time I refuted said individual on such he still ran with it, even alluding to it in the very discussion where you were included, and ins aid discussion you both were one 1-UPing each other when the both of you spoke falsehood and deception.

@Anna Check this out, one of the reasons a lot more people are having their children homeschooled.

This speaks for itself. And yes, some instances of such is taking place even in the West, the US granted the Bible itself is being viewed more as a form of hate speech by such ones like those on the left/right, sjws, and a list of others: I can only find videos regarding the student, one video from someone not in the West, the other of someone in the West.

Do not know if anyone is aware of this because it has not been mentioned. The Kairos Movement will never prevail.

That is because what I stated was pulled from a credible source. Mainly if you understand Translation and Transliteration. In your case, you lack understanding in Translation granted the whole situation with a fisherman's garment some months back. Anyways, the source in question is Mr. Nehemiah Gordon and the Bible Team Also Yahuh is Arabic form of YHWH

@Witness You're welcome. That being said, they will also see how you interjected teachings of men concerning Jesus' church, and your attempt to use a prophetess as a church leader, let alone claiming a slander of misogyny when said slander was directed to someone who takes his culture seriously, let alone agreeing with someone who is cool with sex change. let alone going about something you do not understand and pushing a falsehood, a strong one, as a truth. I linked this conversation elsewhere too, especially CSE, and the majority pointed out, as I have, that you are not among the chosen, even one another whom I do who has heard his call, SoG, makes the same response concerning you. As I had told you before, you scrap your knee caps, one too many times, and I can clearly see even if the discussion was not about JWs at all, you cannot hold your own concerning the Bible, in fact, the only thing that holds you is JWs, and that discussion we see without your help from JW sources, you do not hold fast that well, even going as far with the ageism response. Check thyself before ye wreck'th thyself because such a path concerning you is clearly not one leading you to the Kingdom of God, mainly if you speak against what he has in place and resort to referring one of his holy spirit filled followers as one speaking of mere opinion. Truly they will see, no they have seen the truth of the matter, concerning the Church of the Christ. I always walk my walk and talk my talk because as a Christian, as a truther and what my culture represents, I do not use slander as a truth in which you have done so many times, more so, worse of the worse, I do not twist or mix Scripture, which you continue to do, when I and others have called you out of this.

@Outta Here There is also the whole situation with the age of consent, human trafficking. It is far worse for young girls vs. boys apparently, and today's society in this age are sexualizing children in conjunction with pornography. Truly truly in all honesty, sexual immorality is the biggest villain to mankind concerning sin, and it often promotes people to attempt to fight it in the wrong way which also contributes to the problem. I and others proclaim this a lot and now we see where this leads, reasons why I prefer to protect children by means of teaching them, compared to those who toot their horn and do nothing concerning the problem.

What I speak of is not experimentation, and regardless, that in of itself is sexual immorality, mainly in what follows after that, more so, there was a children's care book that speaks of this matter. You brought forth fornication, and I've made a response to that. Calling someone an idiot in regards to speaking about fornication makes you below an idiot, so I suggest you not trend in said waters otherwise you will be thoroughly refuted with ease. Lucky for you, I am forgiving even though you are a misguided hypocrite. Yes, cases like this do happen. In the US as well as the UK, a victim of child sexual abuse and or violent abuse. Race wise, abuse is primarily done by Caucasian/white males and it is always the father figure, if not the father, the uncle and or older sibling, which brings forth child on child abuse, which is a difficult and complex form of abuse to watch for and or deal with regarding the aftermath. And where have anyone stated that rape is okay? More so, you idiotically mixing 2 concepts together: rape and fornication. Last I check God made humans who can discern, humans are not literal animals, and evolution is not biblical. Not everyone here is a Jehovah's Witness, there are Trinitarians, and even Atheists here, I myself is a Biblical Unitarian, and we are not blind to child abuse, in fact because I push to educate people on child abuse, my actions have helped many, as is with others and the children I speak to on a daily basis whenever I am available. Now, as I told many before, no all JWs are bad people, like in any group, religious or not, any community, etc. there is good people and there is bad people, to throw everyone into one basket for the sins of a single soul goes foolishness, stupidity and bigotry on your part. It is like if someone were to attack, physically, a group for people with intent to injury or kill, the media and folks who support such media will put everyone into one group. That being said, you also made yourself foolish granted what was said within your response in this regard. Seriously? That is a deprave minded response. You may want to look into the statistics and see who commits more child abuse in the sex/race demographic and then come back here and speak. That being said, this response shows everyone here how you do not adhere to Jesus teachings. If one JW abused a child, you assume, willfully that all JWs and other faith groups do the same thing, even the good people among them. That in of itself is hypocrisy on your part. Child abuse is everyone in every group in every race in every nation. Even the people you seek to end child abuse, do it far worse than those in the churches and schools, i.e. deliberately killing children, black mass, etc. Other than that, Jesus' lessons teach Christians to discern, which you lack granted you mixed 2 things together out of foolishness when people can see it for themselves. So how do you know if I have a child or not? Assuming? I do not have children, nor do I plan on having children granted my situation. I do however care for children and teach them, be it blood relative and or those who leave their child in my care, in other cases, whenever there is a gathering, I put emphasis on for children to share their feelings (both the good and the bad because some children suffer depression) and experiences, speak their mind on certain matters, come to an even ground with on another by means of peace, to spread a good message in order for them to apply so they can take said wisdom and teach others, and so forth. Even beyond that, my own culture adheres to respect of not just women, but of children also, something it seems a majority of you guys in America ignore; granted the ignorance of the cultural background of others. When our children is raised right, when we teach our children to do good by means of education, even education in the home, when they are out, they not only represent themselves, but those of their household and those of whom they support. That being said, to assume, to mix concepts, to throw Jesus' lessons in the mud makes you the credible idiot, Matthew. I will leave you with this and perhaps you learn from @Outta Here response. I gave you the definition of fornication, but I will link it this time so you know the difference: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rape https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fornication At the end of the day, I suggest you teach the children, be it you have or not, or communicate with them. For it is such ones like you who contribute to the problem if you do not take action to help our children, granted that Child Abuse Prevention Services, all of them, encourages strongly to teach our children. I suggest read what I had posted before:

Yahweh, Jehovah, Yeovah, Ieovah, Yahuh, Jahweh, etc. They all point back to YHWH. Aside from that, despite the modern pronunciation being Yahweh or Jehovah, thanks to the research done by means of 1,000 manuscript and what Nehemiah had discovered, we see the recognition of Yehovah. Now this could pose a problem for those who said Jehovah is an error because a transliteration of Yehovah points to Jehovah, likewise, of Yisrael to Israel, Yacob to Jacob. That being said, God understands all who call him, granted some prefer any of the forms of YHWH mentioned already, likewise to his Son, Jesus, when people refer to him as Joshua, Yeshua, etc. @TrueTomHarley Yes. The majority today, to quote a Bible team on YouTube, stated the modern saying of God's name is Yahweh or Jehovah, however, Jehovah is used more, in addition to that you have Yehovah, in which Mr. Gordon had spoken about heavily to the general public and even Jewish rabbis regarding his research. But yeah, the Most High understands us, for me I am use to saying Yahweh (Yah) in English, in my native tongue on my father's side we say Yewova whereas the Y sounds like a J. As for Jesus, it is second nature for me to say the English way, sometimes I merely say Yeshua, despite this, people know who I am talking about.

But it would seem some people are doing it worse to the point they interject their feelings and teachings into the church of the Christ, granted our last discussion, an alien teaching that never originated with the early apostolic church and therefore should be refuted without question: Therefore my response still stands as such: It is also problematic of claiming to be of the chosen ones when those who do claim adhere to the teachings of men. We also must not forget the fact some claims commit God to be the villain, for he has sent, to quote, Satan the Devil to the Egyptians. This interpretation corrupts context when we know Satan is God's adversary, and when one draws context, it can easily be seen that willful acceptance of said error shows those with discernment a so called chosen one who adheres to teachings of men, are false.

That is a bit of a lackluster response granted that what was said is actually true, i.e. a teenager being pregnant, a teenager engaging in sexual misconduct and or immorality, the over sexualization of children, even in the social media space. You cannot be this dense if you assume people 18 and below do not do these things. Reasons why a lot of guardians and or parents refuse to have their child go to some public schools. It does not stop at sexual immorality either, for it stems to behavioral issues as well, i.e. a former blue ribbon high school, baseball team (of course wealthy parents) causing trouble at a newly built fast food establishment. A blue Ribbon status is a BIG deal regarding educational institutions for middle and high schools, even elementary. In my case, I have done 4 years in the very blue ribbon school that has now, as of late, loss that status. More and more children today are being homeschooled. That being said, you once said that your church has partaken in various things, perhaps when it comes to educating children on morality, that example should be strongly advised, especially in the type of world we are living in.

The closer you are, the more of a threat you become.

Not for the majority of mainstream Christians, they believe that they would go into heaven as is, flesh, meat and bone. There is another alien doctrine, left behind, based off of the rapture in which a total loon was teaching and she has been refuted for it, all that can be said is what she said and what the pastor with her said taints who God is, and their teaching is like that of something that comes straight out of a horror flick. There is also this passage, outlined the day and hour unknown, Matthew 24:40-42, which is often used by such ones.