Patiently waiting for Truth

It's just a pity that JWs have not and cannot preach truth. For you yourself know that what you preach today, you will not preach next year. There is no building on a true foundation because the foundation keeps getting dug up and moved away. With each new book or Watchtower there is different teachings / doctrines. Sorry Tom but you know it's true. And everyone in the org is expected to just change their 'belief' overnight, and therefore change their teaching of others. The only historical part is the history of failed predictions.

Well I presume you are American, and that accounts for a lot. BUT that is why the Org / Watchtower et al, NEEDS a totally different Governing Body. It needs anointed brothers from all around the earth, not just American, or American influenced. The proof of that is YOU.

@César Chávez once more proves to be Billy the Kid. No sensible answers just insults. Billy if you were ever trying to serve God, it would look as if you have failed by the way you are so rude to people. And you are just following the GB / Watchtower tribe by using this 'mentally ill' insult. Remember that the GB say that many of the 'anointed' are mentally ill.

Sounds a bit like superstition to me. Although the quote “when the student is ready the teacher will appear” was thought to have been said by Buddha it is actually of Theosophical origin. This idea that the disciple or student will call to the universe what they need to continue enlightenment has been proven over and over. Um, you get stranger by the minute. You really didn't knock the door because you expect an angel to 'alert' the person in the house to come to the door. A bit like putting God to the test. Will God send an angel to tell this person to answer the door, even though i haven't knocked. I pity the young person you were trying to 'train'. As for ' reading into a verse, something which isn't necessarily there.' The GB and their helpers do that constantly.

@César Chávez You lost big time It gave me a laugh for a minute. Thanks.

Wow, you think people have a 'set time'. Predestination ? Predestination, in Christianity, the doctrine that God has eternally chosen those whom he intends to save. Yep you are a strange elder.

This whole story is disputed as being not from original scripture. Should ‘Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast the First Stone’ Be in the Bible? This text is a significant example of a textual variant, a portion of Scripture that is not included in all of the original manuscripts. Despite its fit alongside Jesus’ other teachings and actions, its authenticity is disputed. https://www.christianity.com/wiki/bible/should-let-he-who-is-without-sin-cast-the-first-stone-be-in-the-bible.html John 7:53-8:11 is one of the most common textual variants in the Bible. A textual variant is a passage of Scripture with disputed validity. However, this text is a significant example of a textual variant, a portion of Scripture that is not included in all of the original manuscripts. Despite its fit alongside Jesus’ other teachings and actions, its authenticity is disputed. Did John Actually Write This? Whether John is the one who wrote this passage is debated. If you find this section in your Bible, it is likely italicized or marked off in some way. You may see a note that says it is not included in the earliest manuscripts. Why does this matter? I personally do not think Jesus would have said those things. It would totally contradict the Jewish Law / Legal system. BUT we again come to the difference between Jesus and the GB of the Watchtower Society. There is a scripture which says something like, 'If a man calling himself a brother commits certain sins continuously then he should be removed from the congregation. But as I've said many times I feel that the scriptures were written for the Anointed Ones. In such a case as an Anointed One continuously committing gross sins, then it would be understandable for them to be removed from amongst the True Anointed Ones. But the GB and their Helpers cannot be True Anointed Ones as we can see by their written words in the Watchtower and books written.

The Apostle Paul was both a physical Jew and a Spiritual Jew. Philippians 3 : from verse 4. The Apostle Paul says about being a physical Jew : If any other man thinks he has grounds for confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5 circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew born from Hebrews; regarding law, a Pharisee; And he was Anointed by Jesus Christ as a spiritual Jew.

In 131 known administrative prosecutions in 2020, 112 individuals, three charities and one company were punished for worship meetings, offering religious literature and items (including online), sharing or teaching faith, posting religious material online, or praying in mosques. At least 7 fines were imposed in January 2021. Deputy Chair Anuar Khatiyev of the regime's Religious Affairs Committee refused to discuss why individuals should face prosecution and punishment for exercising their right to freedom of religion or belief. https://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2634 Muslims, Council of Churches Baptists, Jehovah's Witnesses, a Hare Krishna devotee, and commercial and private sellers were many of the targets of these prosecutions.Many of the prosecutions were to punish meetings for worship without state permission. Five Muslims were fined in the western city of Zhanaozen on 24 August 2020 for praying the Id al-Adha morning prayers at a car market. Company employees were fined for allowing staff to use rooms for prayer. One Muslim in the capital Nur-Sultan was fined for leading the "unregistered form of Sufism". Council of Churches Baptists – who refuse to seek state permission to exercise their right to freedom of religion or belief – were fined for holding worship meetings. The article is longer. Certainly a move toward banning religion, BUT not just aimed at JWs.

Then you should have condemnation against all the Watchtower Leaders that demanded that CSA be kept hidden in the Organisation. Yes the Leaders of the Watchtower have done this for years. Misusing scripture about 'the time of the end' to pretend that Armageddon was coming in 1941, and in the late 1960's / early 70's. Then again 'before the end of the century' meaning the year 200. They deliberately misused the scripture about the Superior Authorities, up until 1962. Yes only to satisfy themselves.

You are a wally. Apostle Paul was a Spiritual JEW. Witness is referring to Spiritual Jews of which the Apostle Paul WAS ONE.

Now, I watched that video and he was talking about God's enemies. So lets dissect this. Firstly, I would agree with anyone that says God's enemies should be destroyed. After all, the Earth cannot be cleansed whilst God's enemies remain. Secondly, that scripture Berean Study Bible Matthew 5 v 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, This was spoken to the Anointed by Jesus, and it is saying to the Anointed to love THEIR enemies, NOT to love God's enemies. In this one instance I will agree with A Morris, to hate God's enemies. Now here we venture into another topic, that of, who has the job of deciding who God's enemies are ? Well concerning God's enemies, by their works we will know them, so here the True Anointed will know who they are. Even we of the earthly class, that are not JWs, would be able to see some who directly work against God. A villain is not a villain 27/7, sometimes they may even do something good. It's the same with the GB of the Watchtower/JW Org.

What did A. Morris say ???

I would say that God rejected Israel as a nation, but not as individuals. Why would he have Jerusalem destroyed in he did not reject it. It wasn't just the place destroyed but the people and the records of their inheritance. I'm sure I've read somewhere that after the destruction in 70C.E. none of the Jews could prove their birth line / family tree. God replaced physical Israel with Spiritual Israel.

Yes the GB/Watchtower/JW org are quite good at physical things, but not so good at spiritual things. A bit like producing a wonderful map, but the map takes you in the wrong direction.

@Arauna you totally avoided the point. I said, show me where I have said that the Superior Authorities are above Almighty God. And of course you cannot show me, because I have never said it. My love for Almighty God and for Jesus Christ is steadfast. None of you people here will change that. Whereas your love for your GB and the Watchtower / CCJW is a love of men, which God's word advises against.

I think @Srecko Sostar means who does one give 'service' to. The Kings were supposed to represent God but at times they were disobedient. So then did a person serve the king, or disobey the king and serve God. The answer of course should be to serve God. But what of those men that helped David commit murder ?

It has been common action for many years that the Watchtower / GB / JW Leaders deliberately misquote people and other organisations. @Srecko Sostar a long time ago gave a lovely example of this where the Watchtower has deliberately misquoted some one by chopping the centre out of a comment. Now it seems, JWs here are doing similar with people's comments. My simple request is that if you do not fully understand what i have written, then simply ask me to explain. But no, three JWs here deliberately twist my words. @JW Insider @Arauna @César Chávez et al. So, show me where I have written that the Superior Authorities of this earth are more important than Almighty God or Jesus Christ. BUT get you quotes right. For I know I have never and will never even suggest that anyone or anything is superior to Almighty God. But you hypocrites will keep on twisting everything, even God's word.

Have I ever suggested this ? I don't think i have. Nothing or no one is above the authority of Almighty God. (Although we have the words of Jesus 'All authority has been given me....' but surely even Jesus in under his Father's authority) However i do believe that the Leaders of the Watchtower / CCJW had placed themselves as such by misusing the Romans scripture during WW2 and up to the early 60's (I think). Now regarding your comment, and concerning Matthew 5 :41, Do you think your GB should decide this, or each JW should use their own conscience ? And I think it would be good for people to remember that that ARE subject to By serving God through Christ sometimes people will be breaking the law of their land. Therefore those people will suffer the punishment for it. It is righteous to suffer for God and Christ, and there will be a promised reward. But make sure your suffering IS for God and Christ, not for men.

Billy the Kid, aka CC, I'm sorry you do not comprehend English. I'm of working class stock so no 'polishing' of my English needed. BUT as usual, you are deliberately way off topic. Stay cool dude.

And @Arauna thinks only JW's will survive ??? But hang on, there won't be any JWs if ALL religions are banned. It will just be people trying to serve God properly.

And in other countries ? What happened there ? And I see you don't deny the misuse of scripture by the Leaders on the W/t org.

As usual CC spouts rubbish or has no understanding of English. I said nothing about Jesus being called into 'service', nothing at all. I said Jesus was killed for serving God. And it is JWs that serve men. That was proven in WW2 when JWs were not allowed to have their own Christian conscience. They were not allowed to work on farms or elsewhere, JWs had to go to prison or be murdered just for the sake of the JW Leaders that deliberately misused scripture about the Superior Authorities. As for the 'UK Human Rights Committee', I do not care about them. They are only 'men'. As for TTH, he always tends to think a person is not a 'real' JW if said person does something that he does not agree with. So be it. Is this person a real JW, who knows ? I hope it doesn't have 'Branch support' as it could cause a lot of problems for people, as with misuse of the Romans scripture in WW2.

https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210127003800315?section=national/defense SEOUL, Jan. 27 (Yonhap) -- A conscientious objector, now carrying out his alternative military service as a prison staff member under the current law after refusing to enlist for religious reasons, has filed a constitutional appeal contending that the alternative military service law is unconstitutional due to its punitive nature, judicial officials said Wednesday. By law, all able-bodied South Korean men must carry out military service for 18 to 22 months. But the National Assembly passed the Act on the Assignment and Performance of the Alternative Service in 2019, allowing conscientious objectors who refuse to take up arms for religious reasons to do 36 months of alternative service at local correctional facilities. According to the officials, the conscientious objector, who began his alternative military service at a local prison last year, filed the petition with the Constitutional Court on Monday, saying that the alternative service act violates the freedom of conscience and the rights to happiness and equality. In particular, the petitioner insisted that two clauses of the law, which require 36 months of in-camp service twice the active-duty service duration of 18 months, run counter to the Constitution, due to their punitive nature. It is the first time that a constitutional petition has been filed in relation to the alternative service law. The petitioner has been known as a believer of Jehovah's Witnesses, who was recognized by the Supreme Court as a conscientious objector last year. Discussions on the alternative military service began after the Constitutional Court, while upholding the criminalization of conscientious objection, ruled in June 2018 that not allowing alternative measures for military service objectors does not conform to the Constitution. Following the parliamentary passage of the alternative service law in December 2019, the first batch of 63 men began their assignments at local detention facilities, such as serving and cooking meals and supporting facility management, in October last year. Conscientious objectors in South Korea have long drawn a heated debate as to whether their claims for the right to refuse to perform military service should be tolerated in a country where national security remains an important issue amid tension with North Korea. Jesus and some of his closest followers were murdered for serving God, but these people are now complaing about doing 3 years confined service instead of taking up arms. They are breaking the Law of the land, so should be happy that they are offered the chance to do work that does not go against their conscience. Do they really expect to live a happy and peaceful life in Satan's old world ? So say, 'serving God' in opposition to Satan, what do they really expect ? Where is thier FAITH ?

This topic gets funnier by the day. Meaningless but funnier.