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So I was talking with my mother on the phone two nights ago, ( on November 17th 2021 ) who is in her mid 70's, baptized in 1963 when she was 21 year's old and pregnant with me. She's is still a very faithful believing ZOOM watching Jehovah's Witness, and pluss my sister is married to an elder, and then she make the statement to me that, "We Are No Longer a Publishing Company." 
Although I was born in and raised within the JW culture, I was never baptized, so her conscience allows her to still be in touch with me and therefore still speaks with me.
Has anyone else here heard of this from a JW, a JWBroadcast, read this in any of the JW literature, or by any other JW official source?

Isn't it amazing that they have to say that the man of lawlessness "sits" in a counterfeit temple, and is Christendom.  Do JWs check God's word to verify this?  NO! They keep gulping down the lie. THEY DON'T CARE.  How can "God's Temple", or "the temple of God" as 2 Thess 2:4 calls it, be defined as a counterfeit temple?  What does God think about that?   And what about Rev. 11:1,2?
"Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. [a]And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months".
These scripture reiterate that...
#1 - the "man of lawlessness" made up of "Gentiles",  "sits" in God's Temple
#2 - the "Gentile" times are NOT over
#3 - the Temple of God are the anointed priests and dwelling of His Holy Spirit. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
#4 - The only people or nation that can "sit" in the Temple of God, which the anointed priests are members of, are those who replaced them as priests, and those who can rule over them.  The elder body. 
Thus,
#5 - The elder body is the "man of lawlessness", "standing where it should not"  (Mark 13:14) If the "abomination that causes desolation", which is the "man of lawlessness", was standing/sitting in a counterfeit temple, would it matter where it was found? God wouldn't be interested in a counterfeit temple. What does that have to do with His people?   His focus is on His own dwelling in spirit, in the hearts of the anointed.  (2 Cor 6:16)
#6 -  The position of the elders as representing the priesthood "cannot be challenged".  Such an arrogant, high-sounding statement, isn't it!
“His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. 32 With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.
“The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. "  Dan 11:31,32,36
"He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God."  2 Thess 2:4
 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.  Rev 13:5-7
 
Elders, you need to get of there. You, and all JWs need to FLEE.  Matt 24:15,16.   I fear the day when blind JWs will have their eyes finally opened to the identity of the man of lawlessness.  
 
 
 
 

I’ve found tons are. It’s hard to reason with a broken soul that’s been ripped apart mentally by false predictions and false teachers. I have found though, Christ’s words paralleled with Paul’s comforting to some. Matthew 24:48-49 Jesus spoke of a wicked steward (a governing body), who Paul sternly spoke of a specific announcement from these men to not believe, that without a doubt will cause many to be stumbled. (Matthew 24:11)
It’s 1914. These men would lie saying the day of the lord arrived back then. These men would say the man of lawlessness sits in a counterfeit temple and is Christendom. It is the man of lawlessness who is in the organization and sits in judicial meetings disfellowshipping everyone who questions the governing bodies false predictions. Imagine that, asking questions will get you DF’d. This is without question going to cause many to be stumbled (Matthew 24:11).
2 Thessalonians 2: Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us." 2 thess 2:2
"BACK in 1914, Jesus was installed as King of God’s Kingdom, and the Lord’s day began." - w88 10/15 pp. 15-20
Don’t be fooled by what they [the governing body] say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed—the one who brings destruction. He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.“ 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
 

Keep trying xero. You might even be funny one day.  But oh dear, what it takes to hide you conscience xero. 
But of course Jesus Christ examines hearts. So it's between Him and you. 
And wow now you've got a second in command  well done tom. 
 

That totally nails the governing bodies attitude.

I’ve found tons are. It’s hard to reason with a broken soul that’s been ripped apart mentally by false predictions and false teachers. I have found though, Christ’s words paralleled with Paul’s comforting to some. Matthew 24:48-49 Jesus spoke of a wicked steward (a governing body), who Paul sternly spoke of a specific announcement from these men to not believe, that without a doubt will cause many to be stumbled. (Matthew 24:11)
It’s 1914. These men would lie saying the day of the lord arrived back then. These men would say the man of lawlessness sits in a counterfeit temple and is Christendom. It is the man of lawlessness who is in the organization and sits in judicial meetings disfellowshipping everyone who questions the governing bodies false predictions. Imagine that, asking questions will get you DF’d. This is without question going to cause many to be stumbled (Matthew 24:11).
2 Thessalonians 2: Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us." 2 thess 2:2
"BACK in 1914, Jesus was installed as King of God’s Kingdom, and the Lord’s day began." - w88 10/15 pp. 15-20
Don’t be fooled by what they [the governing body] say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed—the one who brings destruction. He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.“ 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
 

I’ve found tons are. It’s hard to reason with a broken soul that’s been ripped apart mentally by false predictions and false teachers. I have found though, Christ’s words paralleled with Paul’s comforting to some. Matthew 24:48-49 Jesus spoke of a wicked steward (a governing body), who Paul sternly spoke of a specific announcement from these men to not believe, that without a doubt will cause many to be stumbled. (Matthew 24:11)
It’s 1914. These men would lie saying the day of the lord arrived back then. These men would say the man of lawlessness sits in a counterfeit temple and is Christendom. It is the man of lawlessness who is in the organization and sits in judicial meetings disfellowshipping everyone who questions the governing bodies false predictions. Imagine that, asking questions will get you DF’d. This is without question going to cause many to be stumbled (Matthew 24:11).
2 Thessalonians 2: Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us." 2 thess 2:2
"BACK in 1914, Jesus was installed as King of God’s Kingdom, and the Lord’s day began." - w88 10/15 pp. 15-20
Don’t be fooled by what they [the governing body] say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed—the one who brings destruction. He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.“ 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
 

I've just spent maybe an hour bearing witness about God's Kingdom and about Almighty God and Jesus Christ, but I find that many people have been stumbled by the Watchtower / JW Org making false predictions concerning Armageddon. It must be difficult for many people in the world, because we do live in a dishonest world. It also seems funny to me that some folks out there are still preaching 'hellfire'. It's not funny of course, but I suppose I have a wrong sense of humour. 
How many of you have also found the false JW predictions to have been a stumbling block when trying to teach truth to others ? 

So that's it.  Bunkers under Warwick and under Ramapo, all linked together by underground tunnels. 
When the big trouble starts the GB and their Lawyers & helpers et al, will all go underground.
All paid for by donations and built by slaves of the Org.  

....and don't forget the natural woodlands holographs protecting the entrances to the Flying Saucer repair hangers and refueling facility hollowed out with those tunnels. Those things are not cheap, you know ......
That's why they have whole underground factories with row after row of workers at sewing machines, day after day, turning out women's fashions for the Ferengi.

….. sometimes I wonder if NoisySrecko even understands what he is down-voting.
….. some people cannot understand multiple nested sub-references, and refuse to work it out.

Um, like i said underground bunkers.   

Oh dear, they are going to now start trying to convert the middle earthers.

It’s the Archie Bunkers I worry about …..

I do not see your comment as an attempt to prove anything, but as a claim/statement that was directed against @Patiently waiting for Truthway of thinking and feeling.

Actually, the press is keeping it alive, the victims of Wt. abuse are keeping it alive.  This isn't something just from @Patiently waiting for Truth's past, it is happening and being reported almost on a weekly basis. No need to pick at scabs when the news is always refreshed.   Many people don't like stuff like this thrown up into their face, for a reason.  I suggest you get use to it.
And I was thinking how a sexual predator grooms his victim, sometimes over a period of years, as happened in my case. The victim comes to trust the predator, and then the predator swoops in to commit his crime.  From there, threats may be issued. The victim must remain silent, or face serious consequences.  The victim becomes the predator's slave.  
I thought of this after making my last comment about the need to trust the GB, "because God and Jesus do".  These guys are spiritual, sexual predators.  They win over their victims with smooth words, and it can take years of indoctrination, leading JWs to come to "trust" the GB.  Until something clicks, one too many lies alert the victim that they have been abused by con artists.  They have been cheated of truth in Jesus Christ. (2 Cor 11:3,4,13-15,20)  As can happen, the victim is threatened with loss of family, loss of status in the congregation, loss of God's love if they speak what these "Harlots" have been doing, how they transgressed the victim's personal spiritual relationship with God and Christ.  JWs are victims of spiritual abuse, and most are too "drunk" or too scared, to do anything about it.  (Rev 17:1-5; 18:4-8)
Harlot and Beast
 
 
 
 

You don't 'see it' because you don't want to see it.  SM was comparing the JW Org to Facebook.
That is comparing a religion to social media. 
The big difference is that I was actively promoting the JW Org. I am not promoting Facebook, i am just using it. 
If you cannot see the difference then it's because you do not want to see it. 

Some jw's need to heed this advice when it comes to the catholic church.
Scars are the battle wounds that prove we are still alive.

And what does that prove? JW members have been preaching the same things for decades, when they claim that satan and Adam and Eve are to blame for all the evil. But then they go further and say that we are to blame ourselves for the bad things that happen to us. What is it but constant repetition of the same thing?
Yes, we are the ones who can bury the past or keep it alive. But it has been proven that the past repeats (in general) itself over and over again. Good and evil is the everyday of our lives as it is of all generations before us. 
Isabella can benefit from your comment, because it answers her question in a way that what she is talking about was just a current problem, and that there is no need to worry about it after so many decades.  

@EquivocationI've not asked  about Communism,  not in my first question, not in my second comment
In their attempts to weaken the faith of Jehovah’s servants or to bully them into submission, the Communists employed spies, traitors, torture, lying propaganda, and the threat of death. Spies and informers included neighbors, work colleagues, apostates, family members, and Securitate agents. The latter even infiltrated congregations by feigning interest in the truth and learning theocratic terms. These “false brothers” did much harm and caused many arrests. One of them, Savu Gabor, even held a responsible position. He was exposed in 1969.—Gal. 2:4.
 
What is a responsible position to you that needed to be exposed?  ¿Acomodadores? ¿asistente de literatura? ¿asistente de sonido? Why is this man Savu Gabor so important in Romania that the article exposed his name so all of the millions  of JWs around the world  know it? now that I read again, this man could also have been a traveling overseer, just a possibility, would need to do some research about him but honestly I'm not interested in his personal life or death, that was in 1969 😄 What he did  was just an example of what happened there and in other countries. 
 

@Equivocation Our friend SM introduced Capitalism and Communism into this topic :)) Don't ask me.

Having suffered CSA myself, I have empathy for those who are victims of same. In this case above I was just making practical application of Watchtower theory and quoting from the same article as Tom. 
However, because you do not seem to have any empathy or sympathy for others, you find pleasure in twisting things as it seems to give you a 'kick' of some sort.  Enjoy your twisted thinking. 

I was making practical application of Watchtower theory, which of course people like you hate. 
 

Sometimes .... a mission that people undertake willingly .... are not led into battle by paragons of virtue and righteousness ... or even compassion and awareness.
I firmly believe that .... given enough time ... virtue and righteousness in the minds and hearts of men will prevail but often through the efforts of men with serious flaws, requiring mountains of bodies and oceans of blood, and fields covered in hardships of ruined lives caused by error.
This is what happens in the REAL world ..... and until we have perfect government .... THIS WILL ALWAYS BE TRUE.
Get used to the idea, or go bat crap crazy with a screwed up version of reality.
In the meantime .... the very best you can do is TRUST NO ONE ... and do your best not to become someones' cannon fodder.
....sometimes the mission is more important than ones' indignation.

I like your view. But have to ask what is the mission of WTJWorg?