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  1. Faulty logic. We don't really care too much about what "pagans" do or do not do.
  2. *** w13 7/15 p. 9 “Look! I Am With You All the Days” *** WT article with the most recent discussion on this. *** Pure Worship: p. 238 Summary of Clarifications *** Further detail in the AM 2020 talk "Will You Keep Standing Among the Righteous?"
  3. I hear their members breathe air from the same reserves as JwWs too. How do they avoid breathing what has been exhaled by Satanists?
  4. Excellent use of scripture to illustrate the status of natural Israel subsequent to the rejection of Christ.
  5. The point really is that whatever Jehovah allows to happen can be said to be "done" by him. He knew exactly what his son would experience by coming to earth. Jehovah knew he would not be valued for who he was but would be treated as worthless. Jehovah's matchless superiority in strategy enabled Him to use the debasement of the Christ by ungodly men to achieve victory by what unspiritual men would see as defeat. Isaiah worded it well at Chapter 53. Particularly v10. I don't think Daniels words clash with this verse at all. And I don't think Daniel's contextual understanding of the prophecy
  6. The word lowly in English seems to have a dual meaning as an adverb or adjective. A person can be put in a lowly position without being lowly in mind, just as a person can be humbled without being humble. Or they can actually be lowly in heart or humble in spirit as well as having a lowly position, and then be elevated in position without losing the dis-postion. or vice versa. So I can't see anything too deep here. Jesus was lowly in mind in the sense of being humble in disposition. As far as his enemies were concerned, he was the lowest of the low, deserving treatment reserved for the lowest
  7. I'll wait for this. But really! This over 40 page to-ing and fro-ing so obscure and beyond the everyday experience of most that it just creates a gigantic yawn factor. The Cameron and Jon chat, while admittedly cheesy, is so easy to follow. What are we saying here? Nebu = Jehovah's representative rulership. 7 times interpreted as 2520 years = the time Gentile rule is uninterrupted by theocratic rule on earth. Starts with with Nebu &co dispensing with a divinely appointed dynasty of earthly kings. Duration= time, (disputed of course), of 2520 years, starting in 607
  8. Hm....is this nostalgia corner??? You're about 7 years late with this report?
  9. Quite, and careful what we let ourselves believe. It is those who listen to the "lawless one" who get deluded.
  10. I remember that now. My point is basically that academic debate on ancient historical chronology is not what I base my faith on. The conclusions are not solid enough for me and are also too obscure for anything more than a passing curiosity. I would rather spend my time on helping people to grasp and apply Bible principles of behaviour based on an awareness of and love for Jehovah God. This work involves a lot more than acquiring a knowledge of Jehovah and his standards. Far more time and effort is required to develop methods of reasoning and persuasion personally tailored to individuals
  11. At first reading, it seems a shame they had to resort to a secular resolution on this matter in what seems to be a matter of simple shared responsibility. (1Cor.6:4-6).The rather emotive and subjective journalistic viewpoint expressed as "a flurry of letters over the fence" adds to that first impression. However, we don't appear to have the full facts of what went on here or what the legal implications might have been. May well be some insurance requirements involved as well. The good news is that the issue appears to have been resolved. I will make a mental note to take care in the
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