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    I found this interesting. Did they, (Bible) Writers of Private Letters to someone, were Inspired to wrote text about something, or did they just made Description (Fact, Advice, Lesson, Judgement etc.) about something what people of those time has done? ..... Just as you TTH doing today. Do you find yourself Inspired for writing books? Question has their place, of course. But then, we can ask in similar manner - If exposing the name of a sinner to public is not pedagogically sustainable, in same logic somebody can argue how excommunication is also questionable method to bring someone back to right path. This is something strange. Elders, as legal body, are authorized to tell to particular individual or few of them, The Confidential Information. After that this individual or few of them, according to my understanding of your words, could be trusted to pass it along to anyone... Strange thing again. How does non authorized individuals ( rank and file members) can be in same category, in such Delicate issue, as Elders who, supposedly, have all important information about case and was faced with matter in wider range? How is possible that congregants have to believe and trust HearSay information from second hand, from Brother (or Sister :)))) aka Parents who are not The Elder/Elderessa . ? ....confused about meaning. Crime we talking about (sexual crimes and child molestation) are cruel. To put such one in hand of Justice is not cruel. If that including Report to police, DFD from church or Fired from job looks as normal reaction of society.
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    In the year 1919 CE ????? :))))
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    With that, they rolled it away. Jesus peered inside, shrugged, and said to Mary: “Sorry about your loss.” John 11:1-44 So the sisters sent word to Jesus, “Lord, the one you love is sick.” 4 When he heard this, Jesus said, “This sickness will not end in death...... and then he said to his disciples, “Let us go back to Judea.” ... 7 On his arrival, Jesus found that Lazarus had already been in the tomb for four days.....19 and many Jews had come to Martha and Mary to comfort them in the loss of their brother. ......23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” 25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?” 33 When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come along with her also weeping, , he was deeply moved in spirit and troubled. 34 “Where have you laid him?” he asked. “Come and see, Lord,” they replied. 35 Jesus wept. 36 Then the Jews said, “See how he loved him!....40 Then Jesus said, “Did I not tell you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?”...43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” Dear TTH, JW member who left pamphlet on grave, i guess to a person he/she not know personally, was not imitate Jesus and was not showed, looks so, "appropriate" personal state of mind and heart to someone who lost dear family member. How not? First, JW member not made personal contact to grieving person. Even if you not know somebody from before, IF you are interested in his/her well-being than you will make personal contact. In Jesus example we see how he was; deeply moved, troubled and wept. JW member who left pamphlet expressed NOTHING of this. JW member was just routinely made his/her Volunteer PUBLIC SERVICE aka PUBLISHING for Companies (WTJWORG and Congregation). Second (something that no one expecting from JW :)))), in Jesus's case, he made more than showing compassion and sadness. He HELPED them in a miracle way! Of course, grieving people will react on pamphlet in various ways. Some will come to be JW because of that. I knew one late JW brother who was (his son just died at 20 year of old) found JW material on grave and join the organization before cca 50-60 years. I think that scripture say: 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. Well, it seems how particular JW member failed to did both of this.
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    The disciples and many others have been listening. Now Jesus addresses them, warning about the scribes and the Pharisees. Those men have “seated themselves in the seat of Moses” to teach God’s Law. - source jworg It seems how, after new interpretations on "secular authority", you put yourself on Moses seat :)))) Or you just copy/paste some WT magazine. If yes, tell the source. According to your new light, donation money from now have new name - taxes?! And for what purpose? For service of those who governing in WTJWORG. Well, I see from this that JW's have PAID CLERGY, according to this understanding of Bible words. :)))))) very good
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    In GDPR atmosphere law, perhaps elders need to have sinner's written consent, to made his name publicly known and what matter is about ?? I think how publishers in many countries (EU) signed such paper or are in process to sign it.
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    Notification for congregation: We inform our brothers to be cautious. Anyone who left the house without an umbrella on a rainy day, could be wet.
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    Not Gold ........ it is Purple Star :)))))
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    Smarter than I will find out how to deal with verses and look for interpretation. :))
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    Jeremiah 5:6, "Therefore a lion from the forest will slay them. A wolf of the deserts will destroy them. A leopard is watching their cities. Everyone who goes out of them will be torn in pieces, because their transgressions are many, their apostasies are numerous." Zephaniah 1:4-6 "So I will stretch out My hand against Judah And against all the inhabitants of Jerusalem And I will cut off the remnant of Baal from this place, And the names of the idolatrous priests along with the priests. "And those who bow down on the housetops to the host of heaven, And those who bow down and swear to the LORD and yet swear by Milcom, And those who have turned back from following the LORD, And those who have not sought the LORD or inquired of Him."
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    I belong to "introvert species" inside humankind :)))), so quantity and frequency of communication from my side is not sufficient for others, sometimes or often. Thanks for grammar issue! Moses and stuff with this. Moses Law or God's Law, whatever/however we decide to name it is of Provisional Sort. One of main reason is because no one is/was been able to obey this/such Law. Of what value is the Law that can't be incorporated in people's life. When people are not able , even if they truly want, to live by The Law. Even in that situation Jew Religious Leaders added human commands and traditions and burden people still more. And yet today, in modern religious systems, things are similar and same. With no exceptions (including WTJWORG). Divorce thing is with "little" controversy (also as killing non-Jew tribes but with Law permission to took with force beautiful virgins (even under age children) and "marry" them. One part of Jesus conversation with Jew, reveal something about divorce and Moses and by that making questions (to us) about other Law regulations in Israel. Perhaps we can agree, how God was not approved nothing of it, that Moses "gave" them (Because of the hardness of your heart Moses PERMITTED you) , but God was allowed them (Moses and Priests and people) to doing so. Well, today we can look at issues in similar way. God just allowed that Religious Leaders burden people with human regulations and ideas just as in the past time.
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    Billy, dear Billy .... even in simple stating your position as believer, you alone put yourself in negative context. Is it some typing error? Or you purposely wrote how you obeying God almighty through the Watchtower ? It would be more better to say... (political correctness :))))))... through Jesus . And all would end there. Bible not endorse no one else as Mediator but Jesus Christ.
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    We have always used the Bible as the sole authority for our beliefs, so we have adjusted our beliefs as our understanding of the Scriptures has been clarified. - source JWorg Here we have maneuver by JW Clergy Leaders who try to justify, by Bible, how they have made/making changes of Organizational doctrines and beliefs, because they have not understand the Scriptures before (and today too). In meantime, while they were not been aware of false and wrong in own doctrines, they continued to force and run wrong laws inside JW congregations. Exactly this and that WTJWORG mandate beliefs, are what can be called by name you used in comment - provisional laws. With time passing, WT Leaders changed doctrines which they presented as Bible Truths and God's Word. After some time they made new doctrines out of old doctrines, and again they called such modified rules-doctrines-laws as Bible Truths and God's Word. They using lexical terminology such as; adjusted our beliefs .....Scriptures has been clarified. Well, we have different wording but same package of meanings and results: Provisional Laws ........ Adjusted our beliefs ...... Scriptures has been clarified.
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    I hope how this pride and even arrogant self-praise is just result of short-term foolishness :))
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    I just went trough some bible verses with word - baptize, baptism. Main point why first Jews going in baptism were; confessing, repenting and washing the sins, believing in Jesus, to gain clear conscience, to be saved, to be buried with Jesus, baptism into Jesus and his death, to be disciples for Jesus. Well, baptism as such is not part of identification process with outcome, goal to be part of some Organization or Corporation, religious or not religious. In near future, and changing of baptism questions in WTJWORG is part of that, baptism will stay on folkloric and symbolic manifestation. New members will soon signing a documents as Factual Contract of membership to Corporation.
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    Read, please, WT published material for latest 140 years and you will find examples.... :)) ....even without my help.
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    Which laws JW's have to obey today ? Laws set by GB? Or Jw's need to imitate Jesus and BREAKING provisional Laws set forth by GB? This was told before cca 2000 years. I suppose how today Jesus would modified a little his words and say: Do not practice whatever they tell you that you must obey and doing. First you have to check what they are talking about and why. If you are not sure, then come to me and ask me about. I will help you with your questions. For false messiahs and false prophets performing great signs and wonders to deceive".
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    my quote: HE was breaking The Law (Old Testament ... and Your's) He was breaking The Law, because Anointed Legal Priesthood (similar to WTJWORG GB today) of those time said so ! :))))) Elders and Priests, almost all Spiritual Elders and Shepherds of Israel in Jerusalem and in other places where they came in conversation and discussion with Jesus, showed by Their Interpretations of Holy Scriptures, that Jesus was breaking God's Rules and Commands. So, to who should/would you believe that speaking the true? To Man from Nazareth? Or to established Priesthood? :))) To who JWs should/would believe? To some individuals? Or to established GB and Their Interpretations?
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    Fantastic mixture you offer in this description. It is and it can be true how some of this people would made bad influence on some of us. Well, if we consider how spiritual weak we are/we can be, your advice and reasoning in which you involve Jesus have some reasonable argument to stay away from this sort of bad influence. BUT than, how to follow Jesus example? HE was braking The Law (Old Testament ... and Your's) and eat and drink and associated with "garbage", .... for entire time of his short life. ..... ??
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    Inquiry announces new investigation into child protection in religious organisations and settings 2 May 2019 The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse has announced a new investigation into child protection in religious organisations and settings. The investigation will be thematic and will review the current child protection policies, practices and procedures in religious institutions in England and Wales. Organisations falling under the remit of this investigation will include non conformist Christian denominations, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Baptists, Methodists, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, Hinduism and Buddhism. This investigation is separate from our investigations into the Anglican and Roman Catholic churches. Religious settings such as mosques, synagogues, churches and temples are in scope. Places of faith tuition such as Muslim madrassahs and Christian Sunday schools and places where children and young people gather in connection with their religious beliefs, including youth groups and camps will also be investigated by the Inquiry. More than one in 10 survivors of child sexual abuse (11 per cent) who shared their accounts with the Inquiry’s Truth Project reported sexual abuse in a religious institution. Of this group, almost a quarter (24 percent) told the Inquiry they were abused in institutions in scope of this new investigation, including Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptists, Methodists, Judaism and Islam. Not all participants provided details about the religious denomination of the institution or perpetrator. Organisations and individuals are being invited to apply for core participant status. Core participants must have a significant interest in this investigation and have special rights defined by legislation. A preliminary hearing will take place at 2pm on 23 July 2019 and public hearings will take place in 2020. source: https://www.iicsa.org.uk/news/inquiry-announces-new-investigation-child-protection-religious-organisations-and-settings
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    This is wide problem, lending/borrow money to brotherhood. I know at least three cases how JW people not return money to those JW who borrow them money.
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    This is very good sentence, from which i read next: All and every moment of efforts numbered here (intensive Bible study, organizational experience, faith in Jehovah, meditation and prayer) reveals one side - human efforts, to gain, what? ....these things are combination of preconditions, causes that will, supposedly, result in spiritual guidance (from above). What i see here is, only/solely working (almost fleshly) efforts of particular human who strive to get, to receive something divinely, spiritually from God, by deeds, by work (aka intensive bible study, more preaching, more meetings etc). What is omitted in this sentence (not by purpose and not from you personally) but by common/general view in WT organization is the role of Second Part in this "equation". Influence and power that depend of that very Person who is The Source of spiritual guidance. Pushing made by/from WTJWORG how person must and have to do this and that and to do it more and more, is something that can be obstacle, dam, close door for Divine Power. Yes, Divine Power destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah or Jericho Walls, BUT it can be very "Powerless" to change human minds and hearts. Because in case of Sodom and Jericho we talking about Naked Power. But when people are involved, this Spirit Force is on Next Level, in my opinion, on level of soft, gently, unobtrusively, discretely actions and effects...... After all, JHVH ask, plead for love by your free will.
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    If you don't mind for my interruption in your's conversation. Isaac Newton or other similar person hasn't, as i know, created Organization in which people will worship someone or something. Isaac not made GB of self and few friends of him who interpreted Bible or some other Holy Book. Religious nation as JW members, expecting more from GB than followers of Isaac would expected from him. Isaac was not made statements how he and his friends are only channel for spiritual food. :)) Saul of Tarsus believed in his strong "misinformation", that was based on Scriptures. He was "chosen" by JHVH for two task. One task was to persecute Jesus's followers. Second task was that to put Saul under power that will change his "suited misinformation" and his wrong, misdirected "loyalty". Would Saul became Paul without his "wrong" way of worshiping? In fact, What was wrong with his faith in God when Scriptures teaches him to be zealous for JHVH name and to excommunicate (prosecute and persecute) all Jew who not worship god according to the Law? Dear JW Insider. Can i, by some of your perspective, make conclusion, how GB are in same/similar position and how in their "loyalty" and "misinformation zealous" also making forms of "prosecution and persecution" of those who disagree with the GB Law, because they see how their (god's) Organizing and Interpretations of Divine Will is Process of Rowing to the Some More Perfect and Final Point of worshiping god in the future? This is interesting. I have some specific personal experience about this. In one period of time i was jobless, and working many jobs including gardening. One day (between 2002-2005 i think) sister Tekla, while working on reception desk in Zagreb Betel received telephone call from one woman (Adventist) who are looking for JW who will gardening (shearing the grass and similar) in her garden. Tekla called me and i made phone call to this Lady and was working there for several seasons. Well, this Adventist woman was show more confident in JW than in her brothers from her congregation :)) (A little self praise and humor - she was lucky that i was that one who get this call from Betel ahahhaha)
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    If you are on some leading position in JW congregation do you believe how your appointment was made by holy spirit? Do you believe that all your words and deeds are in line with holy spirit? If you do believe such thing, that is your free will and right. If JW member want to believe that you are "gift" given by god and to obey you and what you talking to them, that is their free will and right.
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    Dear Billy, If you are JW member you already know the answer on this, that was given not only by JW but also by other kind of people (religious and non religious people) who rejecting/ed to obey something that is violate their conscience or moral standards. Some would call this act as civil disobedience. If you are JW member perhaps you done this also, or at least you know someone from your worldwide brotherhood who has done this and disobeyed secular authority on some issue (WTJWORG publications wrote about). Your question addressed to me on this issue, and in this way is out of power, it is mishit . :))
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    If i may say and put this subject, about "given authority" in this way: IF some man .... IF he get (or if he imagined how his authority comes from "above") his authority from "above" (in any capacity we can imagine, secular or religious ...) he "has" such authority as far as he practicing what is good for others who are "under" his ruling, leading, governing position. Every time, in every separate issue, when he making or made bad decisions and bad regulations that have bad influence and bad repercussions and bad outcomes for other people - you are Not Obligate to Obey him ... or at least, you are not Obligate to Agree with him!
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