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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in THE MODERN-DAY ASSYRIANS, "KING OF THE NORTH"   
    “Lord, the God of Israel, there is no God like you in heaven above or on earth below—you who keep your covenant of love with your servants who continue wholeheartedly in your way. 22,23
    “When your people Israel have been defeated by an enemy because they have sinned against you, and when they turn back to you and give praise to your name, praying and making supplication to you in this temple, 34 then hear from heaven and forgive the sin of your people Israel and bring them back to the land you gave to their ancestors. 33,34
    When your people go to war against their enemies, wherever you send them, and when they pray to the Lord toward the city you have chosen and the temple I have built for your Name, 45 then hear from heaven their prayer and their plea, and uphold their cause.
    “When they sin against you—for there is no one who does not sin—and you become angry with them and give them over to their enemies, who take them captive to their own lands, far away or near; 47 and if they have a change of heart in the land where they are held captive, and repent and plead with you in the land of their captors and say, ‘We have sinned, we have done wrong, we have acted wickedly’; 48 and if they turn back to you with all their heart and soul in the land of their enemies who took them captive, and pray to you toward the land you gave their ancestors, toward the city you have chosen and the temple I have built for your Name; 49 then from heaven, your dwelling place, hear their prayer and their plea, and uphold their cause. 50 And forgive your people, who have sinned against you; forgive all the offenses they have committed against you, and cause their captors to show them mercy; 51 for they are your people and your inheritance, whom you brought out of Egypt, out of that iron-smelting furnace.” 2 Chron 6:33,34,44,45,46-51
    These verses are taken from Solomon’s dedication prayer at the finish of the first temple, early in his reign as king over Israel.  They are inspired words, verified by the Spirit of God filling the temple Solomon had built, and fire from heaven consuming the burnt offerings.  (2 Chron 7:1-3)
    When I initially woke up to the sins and lies of the organization, I was learning that God’s heavenly House, His Temple today, is built on the Body of Christ; he, as the chief cornerstone with faithful anointed “living stones” of “Israel”, sealed into the Temple since the first century. (1 Pet 2:5,6,9; 1 Cor 3:16; 12:28; 2 Cor 6:16; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 7:4)
    It is not built with earthly riches, and men appointed by men as its priesthood;  who began this endeavor a little over a hundred years ago. (Isa 2:22; James 3:15; Rom 1:25) It is a Temple and “holy city”, of truth. (John 4:23,24; 1 Tim 3:15; Rev 21:2,3)
    It slowly sunk in, that I had been an idolater…for years!  I had put full trust in an organization that operates like many other worldly organizations. I had been deceived into believing that this organization was the way of “truth”, instead of giving credit to Jesus Christ as “truth”, the Head of God’s anointed household of priests.  (John 14:6; Rev 21:10,12,14,27)  
    When reading Solomon’s beautiful words, I realized my need to repent, turning to the Father and Christ in prayer.  I had to submit to God’s refinement in the light of my disgraceful conduct. (Jer 46:48; Job 5:17; 1 Cor 6:11; Heb 10:22; 12:8-11)
    I also had become aware of the nation that was at war with God’s holy people, seducing them into believing a lie. (2 Pet 2:1,2; 2 Thess 2:9-12)
    There is an apparent foe that has come against the organization where most of God’s anointed priests presently dwell among millions of JWs.   It is said that this foe, and the persecution it administers to JWs, is a sign of the last days that Jesus said his true followers would experience. (Matt 24:3,6,7)   Although the organization has yet to announce that the “great tribulation” has arrived, its governing leaders explain that the “king of the north” during the time of the end, is this political foe that has imprisoned JWs for “extremism”. The consensus by JWs, is that they are not an “extreme” group; while the world sees families torn apart by the organization’s strict regulations on obedience to the governing leaders. (Isa 5:20-24)   The world is also now aware that its epidemic of pedophilia has been left unchecked for years.  For these things alone, God could remove His protection from His people.  (Isa 1:4,15,21,23; Isa 59:9; Micah 6:8; Matt 7:12) 
    He has allowed the organization to maneuver its way through suffering at the hands of the nations for years, by leaving it to fight its own battles.  It hypocritically plays on the empathy of others with worldly influence, rubbing shoulders with those in power, and very likely using a large amount of money at its disposal, as leverage to get its way.
    The organization also relates “modern-day Assyrians” to the “king of the north”, whose said intention is to eradicate JWs during Armageddon.  The identity of this “king” seems very flexible in the Wt. vocabulary.  It appears that whatever government is causing the most suffering to JWs at the time, can be labeled as the king of the north. 
    The truth is, what JWs call persecution to “Jehovah’s people” is none other than a demonic-sourced ruse, enacted both in reality, and in the spirit world. (Matt 24:4,10,11; 2 Pet 2:1-3;2 Cor 10:3-5; Eph 6:12; 1 Pet 5:8 ; Col 2:8; Rev 13:1,2,10,11,12)
    Effectively, it has misled God’s anointed ones of the true enemy that has come against His “saints”.  Extremism is absolutely enforced by unfaithful leaders of “Israel” who have left their covenant with Christ.  (Isa 28:15) Cunning and compelling tactics are used to subdue God’s priests, with the purpose of keeping them subservient to a wicked slave/false prophet, and its army of elders. (Matt 24:48,49; Rom 12:16; Phil 2:3; Col 2:20-22;1 John 4:1; Dan 11:21; Rev 13:5,6,11,12;16:13,14 )   
    For anyone to remain within the organization, they must adhere to the regulations of the established powers; both the governing leaders and their body of elders.  They must uphold their dedication oath to the organization and the power it wields. (Hos 9:10) For failing to do this, shunning can result.  For verbally exposing its lies and announcing one’s dedication is only to God and Christ, a disfellowshipping – “killing” – is the result.  (Isa 65:5; 66:5; Matt 5:11,12; Luke 21:12; John 16:2,3; Rev 13:15,16)    
    Although it remains undetected by most, there are two primary “nations” at war; “Jews” of spiritual “Israel”, and spiritual “Gentiles” who rule over them.  Harlots of “Israel” have sided with “Gentile”/elders, to dominate and conquer “her” fellow servants. (Matt 24:50,51; 1 John 3:12, 17:5) This is accomplished by deceit, lies, “empty philosophy”, or “empty seduction”, according to the Greek meaning in Col 2:8. 
    So, is it true that “modern day Assyrian army” is alive and active in the organization as I am suggesting?  There are certain parallel traits of this northern army that spiritually mirror the elder body today.  With eyes that see, its identity can be laid bare, while interpreting its purpose.  (Joel 2:2,3; Rev 9:3,4,7,10; 13:2,7; 20:7-9)
     
    After a vicious rampage on the country of Judah, the king of Assyria set his aim on Jerusalem. (2 Kings 18:13) In the well-known account of King Hezekiah confronting the Assyrians in their attack against Jerusalem, he worked to secure the city by reinforcing its walls. He built a remarkable tunnel that brought water into the city. (2 Chron 32:1-5,30,31; Isa 22:8-11)  He may have been forced by his own officials to approach Epypt for aid. Hezekiah desperately tried to buy out King Sennacherib with tribute payments, to the extent of removing gold from the temple doors, and apologizing for not keeping his tribute oath, in exchange for Judah’s protection. (2 Kings 18:14-16 ) 
     Yet, as Sennacherib wrote down on what is known as the “Taylor Cylinder”, he and all in Jerusalem, remained as caged birds. A portion translated reads,
    “ I reckoned (them) as spoil. Hezekiah himself like a caged bird within Jerusalem,
     his royal city I shut in ...”
    Hezekiah had a reputation as faithful to God and worked diligently to clear his empire of idolatry - the refuse left over from his predecessors. (2 Kings 18:4) It wasn’t until he had exhausted every avenue he could think of to thwart the threat of Assyria, did he then call on the prophet Isaiah for advice, saying, “This day is a day of distress and rebuke and disgrace, as when children come to the moment of birth and there is no strength to deliver them” (2 Kings 19:2-4) (Matt 24:4-8; 1 Thess 5:3; Rev 12:4 )
    Sennacherib’s officials had previously used “empty seduction” to coerce their listeners at the Jerusalem wall, with promises of peace and prosperity, if they submitted to Assyria.  
     “Do not listen to Hezekiah. This is what the king of Assyria says: Make peace with me and come out to me. Then each of you will eat fruit from your own vine and fig tree and drink water from your own cistern, 32 until I come and take you to a land like your own—a land of grain and new wine, a land of bread and vineyards, a land of olive trees and honey. Choose life and not death!” (2 Kings 18:31-32)
    Once Hezekiah received the messages from both Isaiah and Sennacherib’s officials, he approached the temple of God and laid his burden fully before Him.
    “Listen closely, Lord, and hear; open your eyes, Lord, and see. Hear the words that Sennacherib has sent to mock the living God. 17 Lord, it is true that the kings of Assyria have devastated the nations and their lands. 18 They (the lands of Judah) have thrown their gods into the fire, for they were not gods but made by human hands—wood and stone. So they have destroyed them. 19 Now, Lord our God, please save us from his power so that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you, Lord, are God—you alone.”  . 2 Kings 19:16-19 
    God’s message through Isaiah against Assyria and its King, is quite incredible to read.  (2 Kings 19:21-28)  And, it was in that very night when 185,000 of Sennacherib’s troops died at the hands of God’s angel. 
    In his pride, Sennacherib never mentioned this defeat, the man who called Ninevah, “the Palace without a Rival”.
    The authentic threat that God’s people today face, is the organization itself. It “makes war” against the saints through the use of deceit, conquering them with “empty philosophy…seduction”. (Rev 13:1,2,7,8,10) It has “surrounded the camp of the saints”, like caged birds. (Rev 20:7-9; 16:13-16)  
     Yet, JWs as a whole, believe they have rid themselves of idols, not realizing they are so steeped in the idolatry and false promises of the “Assyrian” way of life, that it will bring their downfall. (Rev 2:20; 13:11,14,16,17,8; 14:9,10)  They submit to its blasphemous rules and lies, including lies about themselves;  trusting that their dedication/oath to the organization will promise security now, in this life, and in the life to come.
    A “tribute” can be defined as, “a payment by one ruler or nation to another in acknowledgment of submission or as the price of protection.”  What kind of payment must the priesthood of God and all within, “pay” in exchange for spiritual “security”, a life they believe comes with future peace and prosperity?  (1 Thess 5:3)  It is paid for, with their loyalty, devotion, veneration, obedience, and material riches. (Rev 13:15,16) Their life as they know it, hinges on obedience to those who rule over them. (Luke 22:25-27; Mark 8:35)
    When everything let loose in Russia against the organization, one of the governing body members stated on a video, “We can say with confidence that all of these efforts that are being made to try to stop our worship of Jehovah, to wipe it out, are not going to have any success.”
    Three years later, we see more severe persecution happening in that country and in other countries as well.  This should prove to the organization that it is committing gross sins.  It should prove that the holy priesthood is failing in upholding their oath to God. (Jonah 2:9) They have forsaken their duties to defend the sanctuary/Temple from the enemy among them, and allowed lies to fester, causing fear within their hearts.  (Josh 7:12; Isa 51:23; Ezek 44:6-9; Matt 5:13; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 5:20; Heb 10:35-39; 1 Pet 3:14; Isa 10:24,25)
    The powerful “King of the north”/ elder body/”man of lawlessness”  has left not one “living stone” upon a stone, in the organization. (Dan 11:28,31,32; Matt 24:15; Mark 13:17; Luke 19:44; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 9:1-4;11:1,2; 13:7)
    The organization’s leaders have turned to every avenue possible, to defeat its physical enemy, but because it supports a “spirit-directed mountain-like” idol, with its own priesthood, and refuses to acknowledge and turn to God’s dwelling/Temple of Holy Spirit, its defeat will be far greater than what it now experiences.  Its finish will be through the Spirit of Truth in Christ.  (Mal 3:1; Matt 10:20,40; Heb 4:12; Rev 1:16; 2 Thess 2:8; Rev 11:3-5; 12: 9-11; Zech 4:7; Rev 8:8; 20:10; Jer 23:29) (Zeph 2:13-15)
    Through its arrogant pride, it holds confidence in the weakness of men, and not in the strength and power of God.  (Prov16:18; Ps 10:4; Isa 28:15; 30:12-15; 1 John 2:15) (Zech 4:10,7,8,6)
     
    1 Cor3:16,17 -  Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?  If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.
    It was the Jewish leader themselves, who tore down their own house, by their rejection of the cornerstone, and New Jerusalem above... the mother of Wisdom.
    It was those leaders whom Jesus was addressing, at John 2:19..
    God would not have allowed the Temple of the faithful to be torn down by Gentiles (either then, or now), if they had sought out the true foundation, and had been loyal to it. God will have a Temple to praise Him, whether men choose to be faithful or not...
    "Tear down this Temple, and I will raise it up in three days." (John 2:19)
    We too have the choice before us, as do the leaders of the WT. Upon which foundation, do they choose to build their house?
    If it is not based upon the cornerstone, the 12 foundation stones, and all the living stones of God's priesthood of saints  (1 Pet 2:5,9)...
    then it will collapse and be torn down, by their own doing.
    Pearl Doxsey
     
    Keeping in mind that “Jacob” is “Israel”, the symbolism of the “seven shepherds and eight dukes” that come against “Assyria”, cannot be the “Gentile” elders, since these scriptures speak about the resurgence of “Jacob” – God’s anointed House of “Israel”.
    “Therefore Israel will be abandoned
     until the time when she who is in labor bears a son,
    and the rest of his brothers return
        to join the Israelites.
    4 He will stand and shepherd his flock
        in the strength of the Lord,
        in the majesty of the name of the Lord his God.
    And they will live securely, for then his greatness
        will reach to the ends of the earth.
    5 And he will be our peace
        when the Assyrians invade our land
        and march through our fortresses.
    We will raise against them seven shepherds,
        even eight commanders,
    6 who willcrush the land of Assyria with the sword,
        the land of Nimrod (“Babylon”) with drawn sword.
    He will deliver us from the Assyrians
        when they invade our land
        and march across our borders.
    7 The remnant of Jacob will be
        in the midst of many peoples
    like dew from the Lord,
        like showers on the grass,
    which do not wait for anyone
        or depend on man.
    8 The remnant of Jacob will be among the nations,
        in the midst of many peoples,
    like a lion among the beasts of the forest,
        like a young lion among flocks of sheep,
    which mauls and mangles as it goes,
        and no one can rescue.
    9 Your hand will be lifted up in triumph over your enemies,
        and all your foes will be destroyed.”  Micah 5:3-9
     
    Pearl Doxsey – https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/
    Eye Salve – Humility, Repentance
    Who Are the Locusts? -
    Priestly Duties
    Gentile Times/Great Tribulation/Cleansed Priesthood
    Who Destroys God’s Temple?
     
     

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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in David Splane's 2020 Convention Talk: ....''Jehovah has to come first''   
    This reminded me on tropical disaster in Philippine in 2014. i think. And JWorg video showed one JW family who, instead of food, were put WT publications in it.    
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Could the JW.org sell off all kingdom Halls and become a full time Zoom religion complete with back room counseling and Disflellowshipping?   
    When they have to hide in basements (because they expect a future attack by Gog from Magog) it (Zoom and similar digital connections) could be a communication link.
    For now (despite the Covid), people still want to see and socialize in physical form.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in David Splane's 2020 Convention Talk: ....''Jehovah has to come first''   
    This reminded me on tropical disaster in Philippine in 2014. i think. And JWorg video showed one JW family who, instead of food, were put WT publications in it.    
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in David Splane's 2020 Convention Talk: ....''Jehovah has to come first''   
    Yes, the GB is well taken care of. Whereas this woman, who faces an empty refrigerator in the picture below, has been told to ‘put the kingdom first’.  So, she gives her last bit of money, which helps stock the fridge of the 8 men who live in luxury.  She has misguided faith that soon, God will also fill her fridge as well…“all these things will be added to you”. Matt 6:33.  Isn’t that how JWs perceive the perks of the “preaching work”?
    My husband and I thought the same thing.  If we would go out in service regularly, and dedicate our energy to the organization, the rest of our material needs would be provided for, and relationships would go well.
    We were very wrong.  Putting faith in an earthly organization with a flawed foundation built with lies, led to further cracks that eventually became large painful crevasses that we faced.  We foolishly had put our trust and faith, that “Jehovah’s organization” could promise not only our spiritual security, but earthly security to live in this world.   Matt 7:24-27
    Before Jesus made the statement above, he said,
     “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rustdestroy and where thieves break in and steal, 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”
    The woman in the picture believes that by serving the needs of an organization, that cannot exist without money, (what JW can refute that?), she is serving God as well. 
     “No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.”  Matt 6:19-21,24
    Shouldn’t the picture be portrayed as the organization/GB giving money to the woman?  Isn’t that what a typical charity in the world does?  By looking at Matt 6:24, it is clear it isn’t God that is being served first by any JW, but it is the needs of an idol in a world that without money, would die. 
     
    I first learned of this picture on another forum, taken from the 1/2017 Wt.
     

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in What do you do for fun?   
    More fun. I've just purchased this lovely old Ford Model AA lorry. It's British, right hand drive, manufactured in Dagenham, England.
    Previous owner lost his storage space and was in panic, so I offered him a 'reasonable price' which, with his wife's persuasion, he accepted.    I love old vehicles, they are so honest. No complications, no nonsense. They just do their job, whether it's to use or just to look pretty.  
     
     

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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in David Splane's 2020 Convention Talk: ....''Jehovah has to come first''   
    David Splane's "spiritual food" have elements of contradiction and is questionable as advice (for simple members).
    In the meantime, world's sellout of WT properties, real estates is enough to ensure a good life for the top administration for quite some time to come, even with less donations. 
    Unfortunately, GB has enough money not to worry about it at the moment. They are now concerned about the possibility of losing influence, managing (corporate governance the flock) the herd.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Jack Ryan in Why Is Neutrality So Important? - Talk on Oct 26, 2020 just before the elections   
    Watchtower is telling Congregations to replace the 15 minute local needs talk in the Midweek Meeting of October 26th with a talk on neutrality.
    Outline here
    Watchtower is well aware that what they are doing may well provoke persecution and it is only officials who are actively opposing their activities that they are not to write to.
    This whole letter campaign has the potential to be politically dangerous for them as the magazine they are sending says their Government will be destroyed. 

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Jack Ryan in "JW Box" of "Spiritual Food" for the Africans   
    https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/how-your-donations-are-used/A-Small-Box-That-Delivers-Spiritual-Food/
    The branch loads usb sticks with videos and content and sends it to the congregation, who then load it to the jw box, which the publishers connect and download into their devices. 
    It works as a normal device and can be charged through usb, adapter or power bank.
    The best part, they want donations of $75 for it! So they don't provide any physical food to people in Africa but they can send them "Spiritual Food" for $75. 
    Turns out, you can buy the same exact thing on Amazon for $45!!! All they did was slap a JW Logo onto of it and cover over the name of the product with a white sticky tape. 
    let's say they bought these in bulk for 20 dollars. If they sell 1million of these at a 50.00 dollar profit. The org just made 50 million !


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    Srecko Sostar reacted to JW Insider in FOUR problems with latest "GENERATION" teaching   
    *** Watchtower, October 1, 1930, p.291 ***
    Understanding that the ''day of Christ'' began when Jesus came to the temple of God, in 1918, it appears that the rebellion must precede that day. The beginning of the falling away or rebellion against God's organization would also mark the beginning of the disclosure of the ''man of sin'', even though none of God's children then on earth understood the matter. The Revelation which God gave to Jesus Christ to show to his "servant" began to be disclosed particularly from 1914 forward, but none of God's children on earth had an understanding thereof for fifteen years or more thereafter. They did see the evidence of things coming to pass which mark a fulfilment of Revelation, but they did not discern the meaning thereof. Likewise the faithful have for some years seen the manifestation of lawlessness and now begin to discern the meaning of the term the "man of sin".
    *** end of quote ***
     
    *** Watchtower, November 1, 1931, p. 376 ***
    Who on earth understood prior to 1918 that Zion is God's organization and gives birth to the kingdom and to her children? The fact that no one on earth did so understand prior to the Lord's coming to his temple [in 1918] is proof that it was not God's due time for them to understand. Who understood prior thereto about Satan's organization, the battle in heaven, and the casting of Satan out of heaven?  Manifestly no one could understand these things until the temple of God was open.
    *** end of quote ***
    These are the most direct quotes to start from. Once this context is understood, you can find another ten or so quotes that mean the same thing as "they did not discern" but without using the exact words. It becomes obvious that they did not discern when they "dug in their heels" at hanging on to 1874. 1874 was still officially the "discerned" start of Christ's presence/parousia, and this was repeated often from 1915 and even into the 1930's. (Officially dropped in 1943/1944.)
    Basically, Jesus presence began in 1874, and his coming/advent had also been dated to 1874, but Rutherford often spoke of Jesus coming (erchomai) in 1918. And the End of the Gentile Times could only be proven by events taking place in Palestine, including the resurrection of the ancient worthies like Abraham in 1914. Since the meaning of "Gentile Times" didn't pan out, the meaning was finally officially changed around 1930/1931.
    The September 1, 1930 Watchtower issue says this on pages 201, 202:
    "With the beginning of the second presence of the Lord, approximately A. D. 1875, there was a change in the work. . . .  The evidence seems quite conclusive that the gathering of these members of the body into the temple is almost complete, if not entirely so. The evidence shows that a great separating work has been going on since 1918 and that probably that separating work is not entirely completed, . . . .
     
    The October 15, 1930 Watchtower, p.308 said:
     
    "The second advent of the Lord Jesus Christ dates from about A. D. 1875,"
     
    The idea was barely mentioned for a couple of years, and then in the June 1, 1933 Watchtower (p.174), it goes back to 1874, again:
     
    "The second and invisible presence of Christ dates from about eighteen hundred and seventy-four."
     
    *** Watch Tower, October 1, 1903 [Reprints p. 3249] ***
    "It will be vain for Zionists to hope to establish an independent government in Palestine.... Palestine will be 'trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be filled full'—viz., October, 1914, A.D. By that time the heavenly kingdom will be in power and the ancient worthies—Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and all the holy prophets—will be resurrected and constitute the earthly representatives of the spiritual and invisible kingdom of Christ and his Gospel church." *** end of quote ***
     
    [I'm currently travelling and accessing my computer remotely, so I mostly grabbed the above from things written in a 2016 conversation on this forum with Outta Here, Holly W, you, Allen S, etc.]
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to The Librarian in Adam and Eve   
    Adam was hanging around the Garden of Eden feeling very lonely.    So, God asked him, "What's wrong with you?"    Adam said he didn't have anyone to talk to.    God said that He was going to make Adam a companion and that it would be a woman.    He said, "This pretty lady will gather food for you, she will cook for you, and when you discover clothing, she will wash it for you.    She will always agree with every decision you make and she will not nag you.    And will always be the first to admit she was wrong when you've had a disagreement.    She will praise you!    She will bear your children.    And never ask you to get up in the middle of the night to take care of them.    "She will NEVER have a headache and will freely give you love and passion whenever you need it."    Adam asked God, "What will a woman like this cost?"    God replied, "An arm and a leg."    Then Adam asked, "What can I get for a rib?"  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Queensland passes law to jail priests for not reporting confessions of child sexual abuse   
    No doubt in Jesus’ day, the nations far and wide committed heinous atrocities.  But Jesus appeared to his people under covenant with God.  He didn’t concern himself with people of the nations, since God judges each person in righteousness, according to the circumstances they live in; according to their heart.
    God’s focus has always been with His people, Israel, and those in direct contact with them who may have joined them, or whom Israel was influenced by.  So, Jesus’ reason for appearing, was as a “messenger”/”prophet”/Son of God/fulfilled promise of the firstborn of Abraham’s seed – Son of man.  He came to the “lost sheep of Israel”.  Matt 15:24  Later, the good news was opened to the Gentiles and “Israel” came to include people from all nations.  (Rom 9:6-8)
    God has a people under covenant today – spiritual “Israel” – His anointed priesthood and "living stones" of the Temple of God.  (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)  The remaining "stones" today, reside under the rule of modern-day Pharisees.  They are the first on the list to receive God’s attention, and along with them, those in their companionship.  While you look elsewhere, and condemn the nations not under covenant with God, you fail to see the heinous crimes committed by the organization, where “Israel” is found. You fail to take these sins seriously.   God’s holy people under covenant are His royal priesthood. 1 Pet 2:5,9  They have transgressed His covenant by tolerating the Temple – themselves - to be “trampled” by a corrupt duel power over them – the GB and the “Gentile” elder body. (Matt 24:15; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2)
    JWs take it for granted that God will be soft on His people who may have committed the same crime found among nations in the world.  God is never “soft” when it comes to ignoring His decrees, which includes the “laws” of His Temple.   (Ezek 43:11)  He expects His priesthood to live by them, not to make other decrees as the Pharisees were known for; and now what the GB are known for.  (Mark 7:7)
    God will judge all people of all nations on the earth, in a righteous manner.  But, should that be your concern, or shouldn’t your concern be what is happening where you “live” – where “Israel” resides?  Since you cannot see it, or care to absorb the seriousness of it…since JWs have glazed their eyes over and tolerate the many sins among them…
     …from pedophilia, unrighteous disfellowshipping, shunning, extortion, the trampling down of God’s holy people, and veneration to an organization/idol…
    …they most certainly live in a false sense of morality, in pride, arrogance, and a false “peace and security”.  (1 Thess 5:3)  God’s people are blind to their own sins, as Jesus witnessed when he walked the earth among his people.   Matt 13:14,15
    Who do you think Rev 18:4 is addressing?  It is God’s people under covenant – “Israel”/”kings of the earth” who have been downtrodden by the Beast/organization that has deceived them.  Rev 16:13,14 (Rev 1:5; 17:18)
    I’m sorry for your blindness, and your warped sense of morality as you uphold a rulership that has attempted to hide its sins for years. I am sorry for all JWs who believe they have found salvation in an idol, a people who have this arrogance that they are approved by God to receive salvation, in spite of the sins committed among them.  Those sins are being revealed,as well as the "man of lawlessness"/elder body/false priesthood is revealed in the last days.  How is this done?  By the "breath"/spirit of Christ within his "two witnesses" sent to preach to the Temple "living stones". (2 Thess 2:8; Rev 11:1-3)
    As Jesus said, the last of God’s repentant priests would be preaching to “Israel”, before his return. That remnant is the anointed who have left confusion (“Babylon”) and preach in “sackcloth”, because God’s Temple has been “given to the Gentiles” – the elder body, who “represent the royal priesthood”. (Rev 11:1-3) The remnant who are preaching now, were “killed” by this false priesthood for their testimony to Christ.  Rev 13:15; 11:7; 12:17  They were not persecuted for belonging to an idol – “Jehovah’s organization”, as you may believe is happening in Russia;  but persecuted by their own people, as Jesus Christ was.
    “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. 22 You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.  Matt 10:21-23
    “But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.”  1 Tim 3:1-5
     
    “I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come,” says the Lord Almighty.
    2 But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap. 3 He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; he will purify the Levites and refine them like gold and silver. Then the Lord will have men who will bring offerings in righteousness, 4 and the offerings of Judah and Jerusalem will be acceptable to the Lord, as in days gone by, as in former years.
     “So I will come to put you on trial. I will be quick to testify against sorcerers, adulterers and perjurers, against those who defraud laborers of their wages, who oppress the widows and the fatherless, and deprive the foreigners among you of justice, but do not fear me,” says the Lord Almighty.
     
    “You have spoken arrogantly against me,” says the Lord.
    “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’
    14 “You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What do we gain by carrying out his requirements and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? 15 But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly evildoers prosper, and even when they put God to the test, they get away with it.’”
    Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name.
    17 “On the day when I act,” says the Lord Almighty, “they will be my treasured possession. I will spare them, just as a father has compassion and spares his son who serves him. 18 And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not.”
    From Malachi, chapter 3
     
    “Two Witnesses – Elijah and Moses” - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/two-witnesses-elijah-and-moses.html
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Queensland passes law to jail priests for not reporting confessions of child sexual abuse   
    “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions.
     Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!  W02/8/1 pp 9-14”
     With representation of God’s priests, comes apparent authority.  It is interesting that God would bless this non-biblical position, since nowhere in the Bible does scripture say God would allow His priests to be represented or replaced.
    But then, do JWs care what God thinks?  I wonder.
    “The Lord said to Aaron, “You, your sons and your family are to bear the responsibility for offenses connected with the sanctuary, and you and your sons alone are to bear the responsibility for offenses connected with the priesthood.
    You are to be responsible for the care of the sanctuary and the altar, so that my wrath will not fall on the Israelites again. 6 I myself have selected your fellow Levites from among the Israelites as a gift to you, dedicated to the Lord to do the work at the tent of meeting. 7 But only you and your sons may serve as priests in connection with everything at the altar and inside the curtain. I am giving you the service of the priesthood as a gift. Anyone else who comes near the sanctuary is to be put to death.”  Num 18:1,5-7
    Since the anointed are the sanctuary Temple/House of God, the GB has allowed others  (“Gentiles”) to come “near the sanctuary”, and act as God’s priests.  Elders “sit” – rule with authority – over/in,  the Temple of God.  2 Thess 2:3,4; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 13:5-7
    The Lord said to Moses, 6 “Bring the tribe of Levi and present them to Aaron the priest to assist him. 7 They are to perform duties for him and for the whole community at the tent of meeting by doing the work of the tabernacle. 
    “Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priests; anyone else who approaches the sanctuary is to be put to death.” Num 3:6,10
     
    Will Queensland challenge the authority of the elder body? Should we let Queensland know who are the acting priests of the WT?
    Will the elder body back down and refuse to be called “priests” when they are confronted by their actions of not reporting child abuse, and the promise of jail time looms before them?  Or, for “Jehovah’s organization” will they do their time in jail, instead of obeying the laws? 
    Every JW should challenge the authority of the elder body over them.  It is lawlessness. 
    “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. 32 With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.” Dan 11:31,32
     
       
    Priests in Queensland will now be compelled to break the seal of confession to report child sexual abuse or face three years in jail.
    Key points:
    The law was passed with the support of the Opposition It enacts a recommendation of the child sexual abuse royal commission Police Minister Mark Ryan says it will help protect vulnerable children New laws passed through Queensland Parliament will force members of the clergy to report known or suspected cases of abuse to police.
    The legislation means religious institutions and their members are no longer able to use the sanctity of confessional as a defence or excuse in child sex abuse matters.
    Police Minister Mark Ryan said the laws would ensure better protection for vulnerable children.
    "The requirement and quite frankly the moral obligation to report concerning behaviours towards children applies to everyone everyone in this community," he said.
    "No one group or occupation is being singled out.
    The laws apply to information received from now, even if it relates to abuse that occurred in the past.
    The law was supported by the Opposition.
    'They will go to jail before obeying'
    But One Nation MP Stephen Andrew said it set a dangerous precedent for religious leaders.
    "The bill poses a real danger for public trust and cohesion in our community," Mr Andrew said.
    Archbishop Mark Coleridge argues the new law won't improve child safety.(ABC News: Lincoln Rothall) "Many priests and bishops have publicly stated that they will go to jail before obeying these laws.
    "How confident can the people of Queensland be that they live in a free and open democracy governed by the rule of law, where the state jails its bishops?"
    Members of the Catholic Church in Queensland have previously voiced their opposition to the laws.
    Earlier this year, Brisbane Catholic Archbishop Mark Coleridge told the ABC he believed breaking the confessional seal would "not make a difference to the safety of young people".
    'It's about morality'
    Hetty Johnston from the child protection group Bravehearts expressed her support for the new laws.
    "I don't think there is enough jail time in the world that would replace a child's innocence … what sort of punishment is suitable for someone who would allow that to happen?
    "So I don't know that it's about time, it's about morality."
    The laws enact recommendations of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.
    The passing of the law also coincides with Queensland child protection week.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-08/queensland-law-jail-priests-not-reporting-child-sex-confessions/12642144
     
    "Trample" - How Does it Happen?  https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/trample-how-does-it-happen.html
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in The woman in the wilderness   
    He certainly did, by forming His organization of the new creation, on His chief cornerstone, Jesus Christ. (2 Cor 5:17)
    For in Scripture it says:
    ‘See, I lay a stone in Zion,
        a chosen and precious cornerstone,
    and the one who trusts in him
        will never be put to shame.’ 
    “As you come to him, the living Stone – rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him – 5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.” 1 Pet 2:6,4,5
    This describes God’s “organization” – His spiritual “house” of “Israel’s” priests and authentic witnesses of God.  (Isa 43:10)   “Bethel” means, “house of God”.  Yet, the Wt organization built its own “house” of God, with “Gentiles”. 
    Which “house” do you think God prefers to run? The one built on the spiritual Body of His Son, or the one that you consider as His, built in the world of Satan?
    “While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!”
    Yes, it has always been, ‘do as I say, if you want life’.  Deut 30:19; 18:18
    Jesus said, “Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death.” John 8:51
    Let’s see what those are, in the Temple of God:
    “Jesus answered them, ‘Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.’ But the temple he had spoken of was his body.”  John 2:19,21
    “Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptised by one Spirit so as to form one body – whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free – and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 And so the body is not made up of one part but of many.” 1 Cor 12:12-14
    “built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord.”   Eph 2:19,20
    God “organized” the foundation of the living Temple in Christ, which we see was established when Jesus was on the earth. 
    “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.”
    Peter is one of the foundation stones of God’s Temple.  Has anything changed during the last 2,000 years?  Did God fail in his organizational building efforts of adding faithful “stones” to the Temple?  Did He scrap this idea and decide to instill in the hearts of men around a hundred years ago, the desire to build His house out of what this world has to offer, in the form of riches, and using men to do it?
     “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else.”  Act 17:24,25
    Since the apostle Paul said that God does not live in temples built by humans, He obviously would not inhabit an organization built by humans. There is only one spirit creature, that would convince us otherwise; Satan, who offers material possessions, and power and authority over God’s spiritual “kings” on this earth, if one “bows down” to him.   (Luke 4:5-7; Rev 13:11,12)
    The Bridegroom protects those who recognize his priesthood and Temple of God. “Foolish virgins” are left behind – those foolish enough to surrender their power and authority over to earthly endeavours.  They buy their oil, their spiritual "food", not from Christ, but from false christs. (Matt 25:2,9,10; Rev 13:16,17; 3:18)   This is why the gate is so narrow.  HE is the gate, not the Watchtower, who has robbed JWs of the knowledge of God’s spiritual meaning of “organization”.  . John 10:9,10 
    The apostle Paul is also a foundation stone of the organized Temple of God:
    “By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 
    Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives among you? 17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.”  1 Cor 3:10,11,16,17
    Already, this Temple of living stones has been “destroyed” in the minds of JWs, for they have placed an idol of earthly “organization” before them, to bow down to – as prophesied to happen in the last days. (Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4) The “Gentile” elder body has the authority OVER God’s Temple – the “holy city” members of God. (Matt 24:15; Dan 11:31,32,36)
    “I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, ‘Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshippers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. Rev 11:1,2
    Whenever God’s priests have been replaced, or His Temple defiled by “Gentiles”/”foreigners”, a price is paid.  (Num 18:19; 2 Chron 23:6,7; Num 18:7; Ezek 44:6-9; 2 Chron 13:9; Num 3:10)
    This is rebellion and “lawlessness”. Are you prepared for what is to come upon the organization, in light of the iniquities committed by it?  (Rev 18:4-8)  The Temple priesthood in the organization, has as their Head, the GB.  If they turn their back on them, rejecting their “headship”, and submit fully to Jesus Christ, guess what the elders do? What are the elders commanded to do?  They spiritually “kill” them.  (Matt 23:34; 24:48-51; Rev 13:11,12,15)  The elder body has replaced God’s priests. It’s clearly stated so, in your magazines.   They have been given authority by “false christs” to judge them spiritually – the servants/priests of Jesus Christ!
     Doesn’t this sound a little out of place to you? It certainly isn't God's definition of "organization".    
    “Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.” Rom 14:4
    Correct.
    “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come (the coming of Christ) until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshipped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.”
    And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendour of his coming.  2 Thess 2:3,4,8
    The earthly organized form of worship was abolished when Jesus Christ arrived on the earth, yet the Wt refuses to acknowledge this, since an "earthly form of worship", is its lifeblood.  And now, as the years have progressed, it completely refuses to recognize and use, the authentic spiritual priesthood of God.  “Gentiles” are apparently “blessed” with God’s approval, to act as His priests.  This is blasphemy.  This is lawlessness. 
    "But didn't you drive out the priests of the LORD, the sons of Aaron, and the Levites, and make priests of your own as the peoples of other lands do? Whoever comes to consecrate himself with a young bull and seven rams may become a priest of what are not gods."  2 Chron 13:9
    Who is Christ’s enemy?  Who’s reign is threatened to come to an end by the completion of the Temple of God? (Zech 4:7)
    “For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.  See, I have told you beforehand.”Matt 24:24
    Please consider what your twisted “organized” form of worship will say out of one side of the mouth; and only a few days later, out of the other side:
    "As Christians, we face up to similar challenges today. We cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry—be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization." Wt 1990 11/1 p. 26
    Exod 20:4-6 - “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.” 
     
    "Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation. (Rev 7:9,10,15) Therefore, we should start directing our Bible students to the organization as soon as a Bible study is established."  KM 11/1990  p. 1
     
    This, is the main course.  Watchtower is only good at creating desserts.  
     
     
    https://pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com/
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Matthew9969 in Netherlands wants to punish silence on sex abuse in closed communities   
    I hope they punish elders as well for threatening the victims with disfellowshipping or disassociation for going to the authorities.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in "WHAT MY PROPHETS SAY, I DO"   
    I came across this quote from a governing body member’s talk (David Splane, I believe), which was given on the final day of the 2020 convention:
    “What other religious organization foretells the destruction of a World Empire of False Religion? We're the only ones, because the others are all part of Babylon the Great. They're not going to foretell the future of the destruction in the future. So, the destruction is going to be a surprise to everyone but Jehovah's Witnesses. And when it occurs, there will be no doubt in your minds that you're on the winning side, that you're on Jehovah's side.

    Some Brothers get all upset over some detail that they don't think that the organization has the right take on. It might be the pronunciation of God's name or the meaning of that name. Or the meaning of some verse in the Scriptures. They get all upset, they get obsessed over one detail and it interferes with their worship. But when Babylon the Great goes down, will there be any doubt as to which channel Jehovah God has been using all this time to do his will? You will be sooo glad that you are on the winning side.” 
    Would God “channel” His pronunciations through an organization that has a history of failed predictions? (Deut 18:20-22; Matt 24:4,5,24,25)
    If the leaders themselves are not “inspired” by Holy Spirit, which they admit to, it is logical to conclude that they cannot be God’s spiritual channel.
    Does this mean then, that the organization itself, is “inspired”? Well, the Beast of Rev 13:1,2, which is under the “covenant of death”/Babylon the Great, is indeed, “inspired”. (Isa 28:15; Rev 9:1; 17:5)
    The WT names this Beast from the Sea, “Satan’s organization”. A false prophet/harlot daughter “breathes” spirit into this organization, causing it to become “spirit-directed” - a phrase that certainly should sound familiar to JWs. (Rev 13:11,12,14,15; 16:13,14) (See John 20:22)
    Since God and Christ are the source of Truth, and only truth, who is responsible for WT’s numerous failed predictions and changes in doctrine? The Spirit of God cannot lie. 1 John 2:21 states that -
    “no lie [nothing false, no deception] is of the truth.”
    When JWs proclaim they have “the truth”, or, that they are “in the truth”, they are lying. God’s Spirit would not motivate someone to predict a falsehood. The motivation to do so, comes from another source.
    “The Spirit says clearly that some people will abandon the faith in later times; they will obey lying spirits and follow the teachings of demons. 2 Such teachings are spread by deceitful liars, whose consciences are dead, as if burnt with a hot iron.” Tim 4:1,2
    Should we trust a “teacher” claiming to represent an organization that has delivered documented falsehoods consistently, to then foretell the outcome of the last days before Christ’s return? Wouldn’t we be putting our trust in “lying spirits” and the “teachings of demons”? (Matt 7:15-19; 2 Cor 11:13-15)
     
    Humans are no contest against the devil and his demons, when those powerful spirits work to deceive mere humans (Luke 18:26,27).
    When an organization is backed by Satan (Rev 13:1,4,8) it can even deceive and dominate God's chosen ones/Temple (Rev 13:7; Matt 24:24,25). This was prophesied to happen in many scriptures.
    Here are some:
    1 Tim 4:1; 2 Thess 2:1-4; Dan 8:11,12,24; 11:36;12:7; Luke 21:24; Matt 24:15,16; Rev 11:2.
    Those prophesies have now come to pass.
    The only deliverance from this final deception of Satan/Great Tribulation, is by means of God and His Spirit (Luke 10:19),
    …channeled (Phil 2:13; 1 Cor 12:6; 2 Pet 1:21; Matt 10:20)
     …through his chosen and faithful prophets (Rev 17:14; 11:3,4; Zech 4:11-14,6,7; Rev 22:6; 1 Cor 4:1)
    Pearl Doxsey
     
    Contrary to what the governing body member proclaimed, the “winning side” to be on, is that of the Spirit of Truth. (John 16:13; 1 John 4:6)
    Although his words will not come to pass, his lying expressions reveal the conceptual definition of Armageddon, which is the battle of truth against lies. (Joel 3:14; 2 Cor 10:3-5; Rev 12:7,17)
    Satan’s counterfeit “rock” (“mountainlike organization”) has captured God’s anointed priests and true “witnesses”; using convincing demonic expressions, that a ‘manufactured’ organization will bring them salvation. (Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Col 2:8; Rom 1:25;Rev 13:10,4; 16:13,14; 20:7-9)
     
    The Lord, the King of Israel, says—yes, it is Israel’s Redeemer, the Lord Almighty, who says it—
    I am the First and Last; there is no other God.
    Who else can tell you what is going to happen in the days ahead?
    Let them tell you if they can and prove their power. Let them do as I have done since ancient times.
    Don’t, don’t be afraid. Haven’t I proclaimed from ages past that I would save you? You are my witnesses—is there any other God?
    No! None that I know about!
    There is no other Rock!
    What fools they are who manufacture idols for their gods. Their hopes remain unanswered. They themselves are witnesses that this is so, for their idols neither see nor know. No wonder those who worship them are so ashamed.
    Who but a fool would make his own god—an idol that can help him not one whit!
    The poor, deluded fool feeds on ashes; he is trusting what can never give him any help at all. Yet he cannot bring himself to ask, “Is this thing, this idol that I’m holding in my hand, a lie?”
    I am the one who shows what liars all false prophets are, by causing something else to happen than the things they say. I make wise men give opposite advice to what they should and make them into fools.
    But what My prophets say, I do; when they say Jerusalem will be delivered and the cities of Judah lived in once again—it shall be done! When I speak to the rivers and say, “Be dry!” they shall be dry. When I say of Cyrus, “He is my shepherd,” he will certainly do as I say; and Jerusalem will be rebuilt and the Temple restored, for I have spoken it. Isa 44:6-10,20,25-28 (LB)
     
     
     Example of Armageddon / Great Tribulation / Trinity
     A House on Rock + A House on Sand / 7 eyes - Prophets  
    https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/
     
     
     
     

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Jehovah's Witnesses demand 25 million from the state - Sweden   
    It sounds like a religious internet competition, and WT is winning.  Religious organization vs. religious organization via the internet; however, both the LDS and 7DA have individually, over twice as many congregants than the WT.  So…even though the organization may “outpace” both those religions on the internet, where has it gotten them in numbers of believers?  My point earlier was that there is presently, no more door-to-door preaching work for individual JWs.  If they want to “preach”, the internet is available for them to do so, as it has been for anyone to do so, for quite a long while.  Unless, there will be no more recording of personal preaching hours now that the organization’s website is “number one”? 
    I admit that the WT’s website , its “cover”, does look appealing.  Yet, if I were to do a search in its online library, would I find consistent teachings about…
    The Body of Christ
    “This generation”
    The “faithful and discreet slave”
    ?
    To name just a few.  No, I wouldn’t.  As a newcomer, I may question why some of the listed sources are cut off from access.  I may question where the book is to be found on the website, that I was interested in reading called, “The Finished Mystery”; since it is mentioned quite frequently in the articles.  I would have noticed that it is praised for its step toward “pure worship”, yet not available to read.  How is it that those two words "pure worship" are connected to a book that has been discarded for its lies?  Contradiction is the norm for the organization.  
    No matter how progressive and appealing the WT appears to be, it doesn’t matter to God and Jesus, if its teachings do not last.  Any spiritual teaching that doesn't last, is a lie.  So, why does the WT praise a lie? John 15:16  Since what the organization's leaders produce, do not last,  according to the book of John, this signifies that its leaders do not “abide” in Christ.  John 15:4,7
    You are so intelligent, JWI.  I am amazed at what you know, but you are giving a comparison of accomplishments to other religions and are forgetting that the entire focus should be on the teachings of Christ.  I see pride in what the WT as an organization has achieved in the technical field, but not in providing pure truth.  It can't, since its leaders are incapable of it, so they manifest what they can do.  With enough money, anyone in this world, can soar to great heights.  
    What is more important?  The advances in technology by the organization, in building endeavors, movie production… or, simply providing “good fruit” - teachings, that remain?   John 15:1,5,6
    Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. 2 As people moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there.
    3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. 4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”
    5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. 6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”
    8 So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. 9 That is why it was called Babel—because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.  Gen 11:1-9
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah's Witnesses demand 25 million from the state - Sweden   
    What you said have logic. But also, if existing members will work more hour in "field service", logically, God will give blessing and more new members will come. And new members will give donations too. With bigger number of members organization will be blessed with more donations. If 8 million members give $1 every week that is $8 million. IF 20 mil members is involved in donation that is $20 mill every week. :)) 
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from JW Insider in Organ Harvesting, Falun Gong, Tibet, etc. (The WEST vs. CHINA)   
    I seem to have failed to write the word — perhaps, and than this or that. Perhaps she was late due to traffic jam.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in Jehovah's Witnesses demand 25 million from the state - Sweden   
    The uniqueness of JWs’ form of preaching door to door, has come to a halt; even though the organization has stated that nothing would stop them from actively preaching, not even crocodile-infested waters.   Many had put faith in that proclamation.  But now, JWs are using computers to reach people, in the same way those who are not JWs, are doing.  I remember resident Tom scoffing at the idea of preaching and reaching people in this manner.  I also remember quoting Zech 4:6 and it was down voted by someone, which totally baffled me.  How could anyone downplay the power of God’s Spirit to see His will accomplished?   
     The identity of truth, and those who desire it, are under the guidance of the Father and the Son, through the Holy Spirit. (John 6:37; 14:6; 15:26) The identity of falsehoods, and what necessary evils are needed to spread them, are under the guidance of the evil one.  To create the discrepancy between both “preaching” efforts, requires Satan to magnify not only the lie, but the manner in which it is spread. (Matt 7:15,22; 24:24)   It becomes “lust” of the eyes – settling into the heart as a wicked desire.    Luke 6:45
     Whereas truth is pure, not needing regulations, rules and ‘tampering’, to make it palatable by men, to spread it. (James 1:17; Col 2:8, 20-23) The only effort needed, is the love of truth. It does not need massive visual aids to convince the hearer, that it is truth.  It doesn’t need the corporate legal watchdog to preserve it.   Along with Satan’s spiritual influence, his lies rely on large sums money to produce them, and defend them; lies that “tickles the ears” of one lusting after, the desire of the eyes.  (1 John 2:16; 2 Tim 4:3)
     God’s Truth reaches the hearer by Holy Spirit, through Jesus, his teachings, and those who speak it. (John 13:20; 2 Cor 1:12,20)   That is all one needs to not only live by truth, but by preaching it.  If it takes massive efforts to grab money and hold onto it, all to maintain an organization and its visual effects, it is not the source of truth!  It is a powerful deception. 2 Thess 2:9-12
    Right now, JWs will either stubbornly uphold their organization with its belly full of “iniquities”; or they will leave it behind and either follow Christ, or perhaps their own desires, just to get away from the regulations and falsehoods of an idol.  Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4;18:4,5
    God’s “Temple” of truth, is not an organization that produces lies. (how can any JW refute his or her's organization's falsehoods?)  There are anointed “living stones” of that Temple who speak truth, and do not demand money to provide it. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)(Matt 10:8; 1 Cor 2:12)  There is absolutely nothing in Christ’s teachings that says we need to adhere to an earthly organization, stationed in the world where exploitation thrives...to receive salvation. (James 3:13-16; Phil 3:18,19)
     
    “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And He is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27 God did this so that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us. 28 ‘For in Him we live and move and have our being.” Acts 17:24-28
     
    “Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.
     My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins.”    James 5:1-6,19,20
     
    One day Peter and John were going up to the temple at the time of prayer—at three in the afternoon. 2 Now a man who was lame from birth was being carried to the temple gate called Beautiful, where he was put every day to beg from those going into the temple courts. 3 When he saw Peter and John about to enter, he asked them for money. 4 Peter looked straight at him, as did John. Then Peter said, “Look at us!” 5 So the man gave them his attention, expecting to get something from them.
    6 Then Peter said, “Silver or gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk.”  Acts 3:1-6
     
    “He has made it clear to you, mortal man, what is good and what the Lord is requiring from you— to act with justice, to treasure the Lord’s gracious love, and to walk humbly in the company of your God.”  Micah 6:8
    Matt 6:19,20
     
     
    Where is the "True Religion" -- Christ's Body -- God's Temple?  -  https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/05/where-is-true-religion.html
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah's Witnesses demand 25 million from the state - Sweden   
    It was and still is all about control of people. It was about the leaders giving orders and the congregants obeying without question. 
    That can clearly be seen when proper research is done about the late 1960's and early 1970's, when people sold their houses and possessions and moved into tiny accommodation, just following instructions from their leaders in the Org. Many people were in big trouble financially when Armageddon didn't happen. 
    If they were not hung up on money they wouldn't be closing so many Kingdom Halls, Halls that were built on 'free labour' volunteers, just to sell for profit. And they wouldn't have real estate offices in different countries either. 
    Keep the people poor, keep the leaders rich. keep control. No different to worldly governments really. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah's Witnesses demand 25 million from the state - Sweden   
    If 'spiritual food' is falling from heaven it is no where near the CCJW or Watchtower orgs that's for sure. And the GB admit to not being inspired so the spiritual food is no where near them either. 
    As regards money, i used to find it funny when the meetings were all about 'simplify your life',  'work less hours',  'no need for a decent education', do a part time manual labouring job,  BUT the Org still wanted donations every week and people still needed cars to get to meetings and were expected to drive around picking up other people that didn't have transport. And as more Kingdom Halls closed people had to drive even further and now, as @Arauna says, people need computers and internet and mobile phones / cell phones. All JWs are expected to have these things. But remember, keep your life simple  . 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Arauna in Jehovah's Witnesses demand 25 million from the state - Sweden   
    So you think I cannot think for myself - think again.  
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