Patiently waiting for Truth

Rainbow colours, how sweet, but we know what those rainbow colours mean in this world don't we ? 

So its well suited to that particular Org. Have a nice day PC. 

4 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

In my opinion this org is not pleasent and is not safe to be in. I believe it is used as a social club for many lonely people and now that direct witnessing is not required it could become an easy hiding place for unpleasent people. My suggestion is that people do not get involved with this organisation. 

@The Librarian I hope this is polite enough. 

A JW seems to be trying to prove something to himself here. It seems he is of such little faith that he needs these pictures to lean on. Maybe he sould learn that spiritual things are of much more importance than materal things. Remember it was the wicked Jewish religious leaders that requird a sign. 

11 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

Describing this aspect of apostasy and its underlying danger, A. W. Tozer wrote, “So skilled is error at imitating truth, that the two are constantly being mistaken for each another. It takes a sharp eye these days to know which brother is Cain and which is Abel.” The apostle Paul also speaks to the outwardly pleasing behavior of apostates and their teaching: “For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.

You quote me because you know I'm under 'warning' from @The Librarian and there fore I will not be led into your trap. 

but I do wonder if it was you that actually reported me   Have a most wonderful day Mr Carroll. 

I note that your comment is still quoting from MEN though. God's word is so much more reliable. 

2 hours ago, Chioke Lin said:

Yes, I would like to see your view on the "heart of the earth" where Jesus was protected. Does this mean, he wasn't died for those 3 days? 

This may be in relation to 1 peter 3 : 19 Berean Study Bible ·

18For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit, 19in whom He also went and preached to the spirits in prison 20who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In the ark a few people, only eight souls, were saved through water.…

Some people may believe that whilst He was 'dead', Yeshua (Jesus) went down in to 'hell' and spoke to  wicked spirits that were in prison there. 

I do not believe this myself. 

15 hours ago, Pudgy said:

. meanwhile, it’s all a distraction to keep one from and the important things like  justice and truth and righteousness, and fairness and equity in the brotherhood…… And making sure that orphans and the disadvantaged have food in the refrigerator and clothes on their backs,And have sound guidance and a warm place to sleep.

I was going to make a topic on this subject, mainly on the bit I've highlighted in red.

BUT unfortunately I find myself with a warning from @The Librarian for what i don't know ecactly, so I'd better just keep a low profile for a while  

I dare not comment on the bit I've put in bold. 

42 minutes ago, Arauna said:

My discernment is that Jesus had not need for any purification or any added symbolism regarding his death - the "sign" of Jonah was a "sign" not an exact replication - Jesus was not in a fish for three days.  We do not want the superstition of the Jews who find numerology in almost anything to overwhelm us.  We then lose the purpose of the illustration/sign and meaning of his death.

I find your comments on this subject to be the most uplifting, and have certainly given me food for thought. Thank you. 

I think others are 'digging too deep' and losing the real meaning behind it all, as you have said. 

16 hours ago, Chioke Lin said:

Sunday after dawn which is the start of the week, as you mention, like Monday for us and Sunday for the Jews.

You start your week on a Monday ?  The week has always started on a Sunday and ended on a Saturday. 

Saturday was always the Sabbath, even though we do not keep it now. 

Or am i just 'old school' ? 

those on the right side of the coming events will enjoy the clean humor of a rightous people

Yes i fully agree. The True Anointed will help True Christians to serve YHWH through Yeshua. 

The false Christians will be removed and organisations destroyed. 

On 6/17/2022 at 12:02 AM, Peter Carroll said:

satan like to use a wedge that his followers will keep hammering into any weak spot in a christian ,this wedge by the satanist pwft is so blunt that it hardly makes a dent anymore ,

 

 Um, kinda funny really. Mr Carroll calls me a satanist, but I'm the one that gets a warning from @The Librarian 

It would have been nice to know exactly what it was i was warned for, but never mind. Yeshua and His apostles suffered much worse for telling the truth. I can handle the warning and i could handle being removed too it that happened. 

But this action does show where the favouritism is.  

" the poster witness is one twisted individual ,what a lot of crap " The words of a long serving JW.  

No wonder the JW Org is so bad. 

16 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

nd the name jehovah occurs thousands of times in the the bible in its original writing

What a pathetic and stupid comment. We all know that the name you use did not exist when the Scriptures were written. 

YHWH. YHWH YHWH.  There you have it. That is the four letters from the original scriptures. 

PC you have let yourself down here  

14 hours ago, Arauna said:

He confirms the Name is Jehovah - actually YEHOVAH..... because the J is a transliteration.

So now you actually admit that the name you use is false. Thank you. 

Maybe rambo and carroll will read your comment and get to understand that the name you all use is false. 

And what about the 'V' when the tetragrammaton is YHWH. 

16 hours ago, BroRando said:

“I am Jehovah. That is my name.” (Isaiah 42:8) English Translation.

"I am Yahweh; that is my name," (Isaiah 42:8) Hebrew Translation to Englsih.

So what exactly is the top one translated from ? I can understand the Hebrew to English, but just to say "English Translation" and not to say what it was translated from, does not make sense. 

And YAHWEH uses the 'W' which YEHOVAH does not use. 

Strange that even long serving JWs cannot agree about the name of Almighty God. 

Also strange that the leaders of the JW / Watchtower admitted that Yahweh was probably right, but used the fake name 'as it was more well known'. 

16 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

satan like to use a wedge that his followers will keep hammering into any weak spot in a christian ,this wedge by the satanist pwft is so blunt that it hardly makes a dent anymore ,

The Truth about the GB and it's Org makes a big enough dent, and you show it, because you have to keep commenting on it. 

This Truth about JWs makes such a dent in fact, that you have to call me a sataninst. Yes, just as the Pharisees accused Yeshua of serving the Devil, so you accuse me.  But the scriptures tell me to stand tall and to let these insults just roll on by. The more you JWs insult me, the more I know I'm doing right.  

Have a good day y'all. 

On 6/15/2022 at 11:03 AM, Arauna said:

So - sitting on his brain waiting for something other than the truth - should take note? heh?

Yet again a pretend servant of God is full of insults. A woman that moans about others being rude or insulting. 

It is as Yeshua said. It is what comes out of the mouth, or in this case the written word, that defiles a person. 

On 6/15/2022 at 10:35 AM, Arauna said:

So this could mean that it would have to be a multi-national body to which all these peoples would stream - am I correct? 

Multi-national but all american GB  . 

It's me that has been saying for a looong time, that the True Anointed would be from different parts of the Earth. 

Your org is not multi national in the true sense. It is american run, american dictated. Hence it has no love, no mercy, and does not care about the collateral damage. Satan uses the american way to protect your immoral Org. This can be seen by the ARC, Charity Commision, IICSA, Reclaimed Voices, and others that have brought the CSA in the JW org out into the light. Whereas the amercian way allows your GB and their lawyers to continue to hide Pedophiles in the american part of the Org and to continue to hide that 25 + year database. 

To think that in Australia, Netherlands, UK the truth has been revealed. BUT in America the GB continue to build their castles and hide the truth. And you people still worship them. 

Do you know, I do not see it mentioning the word religion, or, Organisation, not even once. 

And many peoples will go and say:“ Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob.dHe will instruct us about his ways,And we will walk in his paths. 

I do not see it mentioning a GB of an Org dictating man made rules to millions of people. 

And it does not mention a

10 hours ago, Arauna said:

world-wide nation.

It says 

10 hours ago, Arauna said:

And to it all the nations will stream

10 hours ago, Arauna said:

He will render judgment among the nations 

It mentions 'Nations' plural. So i think you are miquoting scripture. 

2 hours ago, Arauna said:

True religion will survive.

No. It is true servants of YHWH through Yeshua that will survive. Individuals that are judged as worthy.

It is wrong to put your trust in a 'religion', but that is what your GB tells you to do. 

Just look at Mr Carroll (above) and see how he worships the Org. How sad that he does not worship YHWH through Yeshua. 

Things will change soon and that Org will either be cleansed or destroyed. 

10 hours ago, Arauna said:

What I am doing now is some cautioning - not to settle on a definite date.  Jehovah says he is going to cut those days (like Noah) short in order to save some.   So in my estimation, the conditions in the world will be worse than before the flood.... and Jehovah will have to step in to save the great crowd... while quite a large number of them are still alive. 

Are you frightened to give the TRUE reason that YHWH will cut the time short ? 

Matthew 24:22

Berean Literal Bible
And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but because of the elect, those days will be shortened.

God will shorten the time for the sake of the Chosen ones.  But JWs just do not like it that the Chosen as so much more important than the earthly ones. 

Oh dear, you've spoilt the fun  .  

31 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

But when we take both those ideas together, we see that it is really saying that Jehovah is outside of human time restrictions.

Quite obvious really. YHWH existed a long time before 'worldly time' was invented. There were no planets so no measurements of time in that way. 

Humans think too much of themselves and want things done according to their timeline. YHWH will not be rushed into anything like that. 

But 'Rambo' and others, including the GB, will keep on pretending they know more than eveyone else.

Of course, one day, Yeshua will give information to the spiritual 'JEW' and then the 'Ten men' will have some direction to follow. But that spiritual JEW will not be the present GB of JW org. 

2 hours ago, Pudgy said:

I think you are just ticked off because when you bragged about owning a .50 BMG caliber sniper rifle, I proved you were lying about that.

Ah, we are back to that thing when the two of you were bragging about your houseful of weapons. I have that all on record somewhere or i did. I remember using it on one of my facebook pages  

2 hours ago, BroRando said:

The temple of his body is the Congregation... which began on Pentecost 33 CE. Therefore, the prophecy is just now coming to it's conlcusion that will usher in the New System. 

Now that depends what you mean by the congregation.  In truth the Congregation is only the 144,000 but the term congregation has been misused to represent everyone serving God in one particular way. 

1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

A fine example of imitation. Sigh…for me as well. I have had to add a few to the block list. I’m too easily drawn in when certain ones say outrageous, misrepresented, and sometimes just plain stupid, things. It’s my bad. I should have better self-control.

So why even be in the Open group if you can't handle the 'heat' ?  Run back to the shelter of the closet. 

So much like the JW org, people hiding and not wanting to learn truth. Brothers and sisters patting each others backs and pretending they have truth. Catholics probably do the same.   

2 hours ago, Arauna said:

Conclusion:  it is morally wrong from YOU to expect JWs to NEVER make any mistakes or have blotches.  Unfortunately, your expectations are so high, I wonder if any person  could find approval in front of Jehovah by your standard.  Like David I say:  " Thank goodness Jehovah is the judge and not the super fine apostles; or those who stand in judgement of their fellow worshipers.

My expectations are for TRUTH. Hence i am, Patiently waiting for Truth.  

I believe Yeshua / Jesus will be the judge, as He has been given all authority. 

The things I have mentioned are not mistakes or 'blotches'. They are deliberate sins and deliberate crimes. 

We all have sin and we all do things we should not do. But for my part I am not (nor do i want to be) a leader of millions of people and I do not set myself up as an example for others to follow. Unlike your GB that say they are the 'Faithful and discrret Slave' and say that 'God and Yeshua trust them therefore every JW should trust them'. If you cannot see their faults it would seem to be that you do not want to see their faults. And if you support the GB and the Org then you become part of the problem, as does every other JW that supports them. 

On their own the GB would be nothing. Similarly on their own the Elders of congregations would be nothing. It is every JW that supports those men in self made 'authority', that is to blame.  

And as for expectations being high, um, I thought that the JW org was suposed to be moulding people in preperation for that New World. True that New World will not be perfect at first, but surely expectations should be high because God's standards ARE high.