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César Chávez

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    César Chávez reacted to Srecko Sostar in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    Each legal entity creates a different, various type of documentation during the business. Often times a legal body needs to adopt its own Regulations that regulate certain activities within the institution. Regulations must be harmonized with the laws on Archives. Such laws on archives are enacted by the state and its public bodies.
    So, the people who run WTJWorg should know how to destroy the documentation that is scheduled for destruction after certain retention periods have passed. But there is documentation that must not be destroyed, but must exist permanently, as long as there is a legal entity. After the legal entity ceases to exist, there are rules that say that certain documentation must be submitted to a state archive for storage and safekeeping. Or the documentation is handed over to a new legal successor.
    The doctrines and teachings and traditions that are part of WTJWorg publications are likely to be among the documents that have no lasting value before legislation. Therefore, the publisher can independently decide to destroy everything that should no longer have any (spiritual, theological, moral, religious, doctrinal ... etc) significance for the average (or all) members of the organization.
    Certainly, that such kind of decision by WTJWorg, to destroy “spiritual food” that has “ceased to be true,” is dubious for a simple reason. For, then, every JW can rightly ask Pilate's question, "What is The Truth?" .."Why should I believe in a New Truth?" .... etc.
    Also, should any JW be required to separate (for destruction) from its private library any such publication, which no longer meets the WTJWorg criteria on the reliability of what is written and proclaimed to be “True”?
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    César Chávez reacted to Kick_Faceinator in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    Discarding books/data shouldn’t even be a topic of discussion for anyone teaching who is connected to Jesus Christ. You shouldn’t have to throw any teachings away if the branch teaching them was connected to the vine of Jesus Christ (John 15:5), they should have lasted forever as Jesus says those that teach who are in connection with him will have teachings that will last and never need to be changed/thrown away (John 15:16). The problem isn’t discarding the data, it’s way bigger in that, this proves the watchtower leadership hasn’t been connected to Jesus Christ in the first place. Their teachings are going rotten within a matter of a couple years and proves their publications are nothing more than farce.
    “Their worship is a farce, for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.’” - Matthew 15:9
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    César Chávez reacted to Matthew9969 in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    Gotta burn the evidence of what was truth is now a lie.
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    César Chávez reacted to Witness in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    Donated money to publish these books?  Out the window.
    Is this is a sign of poverty?  Not for the leadership, but possibly for those who work endlessly to donate funds toward the earthly dreams of false teachers.  (Luke 4:5-7; Phil 3:19)
    Spiritual food once stored in a stuffy, moldy toolbox?  Sifted and tossed out.
    Is this a sign of spiritual famine?
    Amos 8:11 - Look, the days are coming -- this is the declaration of the Lord GOD -- when I will send a famine through the land: not a famine of bread or a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD.
    "You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you and I have appointed and placed and purposefully planted you, so that you would go and bear fruit and keep on bearing, and that your fruit will remain and be lasting, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you. 
    I am the Vine; you are the branches. The one who remains in Me and I in him bears much fruit, for [otherwise] apart from Me [that is, cut off from vital union with Me] you can do nothing."  John 15:16,5
    “But understand this, that in the last days dangerous times [of great stress and trouble] will come [difficult days that will be hard to bear]. 2 For people will be lovers of self [narcissistic, self-focused], lovers of money [impelled by greed], boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy and profane, 3 [and they will be] unloving [devoid of natural human affection, calloused and inhumane], irreconcilable, malicious gossips, devoid of self-control [intemperate, immoral], brutal, haters of good, 4 traitors, reckless, conceited, lovers of [sensual] pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 holding to a form of [outward] godliness (religion), although they have denied its power [for their conduct nullifies their claim of faith].
    Avoid such people and keep far away from them. 6 For among them are those who worm their way into homes and captivate morally weak and spiritually-dwarfed women weighed down by [the burden of their] sins, easily swayed by various impulses, 7 always learning and listening to anybody who will teach them, but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”  2 Tim 3:1-7 AMP Bible
    Therefore, the Lord God says this,
    “Listen carefully, My servants will eat, but you will be hungry;
    Indeed, My servants will drink, but you will be thirsty;
    Indeed, My servants will rejoice, but you will be put to shame.”  Isa 65:13
    Famine and Thirst

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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    There will be 'persecution' of the GB, the Watchtower, the CCJW and JW Org, but it will not be because they serve God properly. And they have destroyed the evidence of witnesses of CSA, evidence given to Elders behind closed doors. THAT is what would give the GB et al away. 
    But can you not understand one reason for the 'turn against Christianity' (and all other religions), when ALL so called religions are trying to hide pedophiles in their organisations and all religions are telling lies. 
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Witness in LIST OF PUBLICATIONS TO BE DISCARDED   
    So…the bible published by the Wt, and in the hands of all JWs doesn't reveal who they are? Their ipad cannot be hacked?  The international message sent to various individuals in governments, doesn’t reveal who JWs are? 
    Is it because the older publications’ messages were one of total destruction of all in the world accept JWs?  Is that message now being softened?  
    What about the fondly called “basement video”, where JWs stand strong before the army coming after them? They could only hide for so long!
    On the other hand, you have the May broadcast, where your leader and helper reveal today’s “king of the north”, as Russia, with a strong message about persecution happening at their hands, complete with vivid imagery.   I'm sure Russian leaders have access to the internet.  But, these speakers are rather safe in their gated haven; while JWs in Russia, are sitting ducks no matter if their books are discarded, or not. 
    If we are persecuted for the sake of Jesus Christ, should we worry about our ourselves and our faith being exposed?  Matt 5:10-12
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    .... if I did not understand cartoons, I would not find this conversation so entertaining.
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    ... and I did NOT mention "facts as as a factor for a good debate"
    I merely quoted Homer Simpson.
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    .... (referring to another thread), I believe, CC, that you are barking up the wrong tree.
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    I agree with Cesar ... at night when I am curled up in front of my dog house, looking at the moonless clear night sky, I too find it offensive that I have to endure the sight of all that trash floating around out "there".
    .... of course, this is just the opinion of someone who has hairs growing out the side of his nose, which obscures my vision.
     
    ..... perhaps Cesar has a similar problem.
     
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    César Chávez reacted to TrueTomHarley in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    Some metallic debris crashed through the ceiling of my house, grazed the edge of my bed, bolting me upright, and set fire to the clothes locker. Furious, I got XI on the phone and was prepared to give him a piece of my mind when I saw USA on the crumpled wing.
    ”Anything for the homeland,” I said, and went back to sleep.
    Few things are funnier than seeing the SNL libs go into conniptions at the thought of working with him.
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    César Chávez reacted to JW Insider in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    I should also mention that some of the problem could be the "cult of Elon Musk." Mr. Musk can say the stupidest things and it doesn't matter because of the personality cult around him and the technocrats who love him.
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    César Chávez reacted to JW Insider in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    I love a few things about China, but I hate other things, and there are plenty of good reasons to criticize it.
    I have found that when people decide to attack a person or people they don't like or speak against a country they don't like, that facts don't always matter. For example, you said that SpaceX debris is usually controlled while Chinese debris is not. This misses the point completely about the Google query. It's about uncontrolled debris that might fall out of orbit. Reading some content from the very first returned link says this:
    "It really isn't about this one rocket body … because every rocket body in Earth orbit is uncontrolled," explains T.S. Kelso of CelesTrak, an analytical group that keeps an eye on Earth-orbiting objects.
    The true magnitude of the problem can be identified by a quick check on CelesTrak.
    "It shows there are 2,033 rocket bodies in Earth orbit … at least those that we have orbital data for, as there may be more classified ones. Of course, every one of them is uncontrolled. Of the 2,033, 546 belong to the U.S. and only 169 belong to China. . . . But the U.S. isn't even the worst offender in terms of orbiting booster debris. That would be Russia, with 1,035 rocket bodies.
    This is another common problem with a lot of "news." The title of that link is:
    https://www.space.com/china-huge-rocket-falling-from-space-junk-problem
    So you'd think the article will try to make the case that the biggest problem is in "out of control China." But as you can see above the article admitted (albeit far down near the end) that a bigger problem is the US (546) and an even bigger problem is Russia (1,035). This doesn't include many objects from the US which aren't included because the information is classified. I assume Russia has similar classified rocket objects.
    At any rate, the question was about how easy it is to get information on the last SpaceX rocket body (booster) that actually was supposed to stay in orbit but "fell out of orbit" uncontrolled and unpredictably.
    The article on the most recent bit of SpaceX debris says this:
    "While we await further confirmation on the details, here's the unofficial information we have so far. The widely reported bright objects in the sky were the debris from a Falcon 9 rocket 2nd stage that did not successfully have a deorbit burn," https://www.space.com/spacex-falling-rocket-debris-light-show
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    César Chávez reacted to JW Insider in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    What I noticed was that there were no negative articles about SpaceX. Instead of admitting "debris" about the rocket booster falling out of orbit, there is talk of a fantastic display, and a dazzling sky show.
    But before Google would even put up anything (always positive) about SpaceX, it found space for 4 links to China's "problem" with falling debris, especially from the rocket booster falling out of orbit.
    Also, the NYT just ran a huge story on how dangerous China's space program is.
    When this type of thing happens on 95 out of 100 stories on different topics, one could get the impression it was done on purpose.😉
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    César Chávez reacted to JW Insider in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    I recalled a report on some dangerous debris from a SpaceX launch about a month ago, and I was curious about it today. So I Googled:
    "spacex fall from orbit"
    People who watch this sort of thing will not be surprised, but here is a synopsis of the results. See if you notice anything odd about the results:



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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    My best guess is that Cesar really hates Jehovah's Witnesses, individually ... all of them, and is crude, rude, insulting and vulgar without letup to demonstrate to non-Witnesses that if they are considering the Jehovah's Witnesses religion, they will become like him .... thereby horrifying them, and scaring them away.
    I would also guess that this is caused by raging, massive and persistent neurotic insecurity, and is over-compensation due to unawareness.
    I don't expect perfection, or even competent general awareness from Humans, so it is not much more than a passing thought, of casual interest.
    Dogs can sense such things pretty accurately.
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    César Chávez reacted to Anna in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
    Like I said, he's nothing but a troll...
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    César Chávez reacted to Anna in Love and Funerals in the Age of Zoom   
    I am glad you shared this. I had a very similar experience just this past week with a memorial for an older sister that died. I was so impressed with the experience that I was almost moved to want to share it on here but then I thought nobody would be interested. So I'm glad you brought it up. 
    Our memorial had only half the attendance of yours, but we had people I had never met, from various  states as far as NY and California. It was very interesting meeting everyone. The memorial talk was one of the best I had heard. It was presented by a relative, who was not an elder (although he had been an elder at one time). The family chose him because they felt he knew the sister the best. Although there was the regular "witnessing" part of the talk, it only occupied about 10% of the total. The rest was all about the sister's life and how we are all looking forward to seeing her again. Both prayers were again, very personal. Afterwards we were put into "breakout" rooms, to meet and talk with the family, and with each other. It was really nice,  and I too felt the love and genuine friendship and brotherly connection.
    The whole thing lasted much longer than normal, nobody seemed to want to leave. We were expecting to be on for an hour, but we stayed on for well over 2.
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    César Chávez reacted to The Librarian in Love and Funerals in the Age of Zoom   
    https://dilbert.com/strip/2020-11-01 😁
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    César Chávez reacted to Matthew9969 in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance   
    But yes, keep yearning for the day Jehovah is going to kill billions of Men, women and children for not belonging to a book publishing company.
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    César Chávez reacted to Thinking in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance   
    I’m expecting to lose it all.....and it will be a final testing of sorts for many of us.....somehow I’m thinking..rightly or wrongly? ...when it does all go...the visible structures of Jehovah’s witnesses...it has to some how represent...the scattering of the apostles..when Jesus was taken into custody and trial...and killed...
    The most favored and trusted ..fled and were confused after his death...they actually went back to work fishing...not knowing what to do.
    They did not cope with out his visible presence..even tho he had explained it to them.
    How will we cope without a visible bricks and mortar..or if zoom also goes down?
    Even Jesus himself cried out ...My God My God why have you forsaken me!!...he FELT it had gone on too long........in moments of anguish..will we as a people feel we have been tricked...will our faith and trust be tested when it all goes...and if he allows it all to go?
    I am thinking that it also corresponds with the Israelites on leaving Egypt in organized safe military style escape.
    When they were bought up against the sea..against the mountains...and hearing the chariots and horses of Egypt bearing down on them...in fear..and lack of trust In Jehovah..they felt they had been deceived...and cried out to Moses and ready to stone him for tricking them...will he allow the same situation come upon his modern day people in the last days?
    Why not?....if he allowed his own son for a very brief time to think he had been a abandoned...why not us his motley crew of people.
    We cannot look back and yearn for the days of KHs and skin on skin stuff....we cannot yearn for the leeks and onions and pots of meat...
    We have been trained as a people..and every time one of us here took a stand against a pagan holiday such as Xmas or Valentine’s Day or whatever.....which blatantly is a form of idol worship to a pretend demon God.......we were in training for what is coming...he was getting us ready to take a even stronger stand that seems to be about to happen.
    We must not be like Hezekiah who proudly showed of all his riches of gold etc...who put his faith in such...only to be punished by losing the lot...
    Even the good Kings had wrong attitudes about such things... and he learned from that.
    Havings said this I ask myself would I have been one that went into panic mode when my back was up against the mountains and wall of sea and hearing the thundering of horses bearing down on me and my family.....probably ......would I have been one that moaned about forty years of manna.....more than likely ....
    I like to think....or hope....that now I have the scriptures and read their examples....and had more training than those Israelites after 400 years of captivity ...Well..I hope I do a bit better.....time will tell shortly I guess.
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in Physical attendance at meetings/assemblies and "Zoom" attendance   
    It has been said about Sailboats ( a memed "money pit" .... a hole in the water into which you have to continually throw money ...), that the two happiest days in a man's life is the day he buys his Sailboat .... and the day he sells it.
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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in Now this is strange one. Who really is to blame here ? What could the Elders have done ?   
    I can see why any dog not actively restrained would want to bite you. 
     
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    César Chávez reacted to JW Insider in SpaceX and Falling Debris   
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