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  1. 1 hour ago, Witness said:

    evidence of things not seen. F

    I have often seen you quote scriptures to suit yourself and  with a very warped or emotional perspective.

    One can have "evidence" - even if things are not seen.  The simplest example is wind. One cannot see it but one sees the effect..... therefore there is wind.

    How do they know there was a big bang...... they measure things which we cannot see with the eye.

    How do we know God exists? Because we can see intelligent design..... the unseen wisdom in the design.....

    I can go on and on.  For someone who claims to be anointed your insight  goes as far as quoting tons of scriptures without understanding what they really mean.

  2. I do field service regularly on the glass bridge - seen in the beginning.

    Went to a wedding recently - the entire day.  Brothers and sisters did these dances (old brothers too!)  They love singing and dancing. They sing without music - beautiful in harmony.

    The city Tbilisi is one of the newest tourist attractions of the world as the nature with north and south Caucuses mountains is breathtaking.  The city has very old buildings. Unique style balconies in wood which looks like lace.

    The wine industry originated in this area..... I think Noah drank too much of this wine!   They mature it in the ground in large pots!    It goes down real SMOOTH!!!!!! 

  3. If you have stomach surgery and cannot eat - you eat through a drip in the arm. There is no difference between this way of eating blood.  

    The scripture says : ABSTAIN from blood...... this means eating, drinking, in artery, etc. 

    When it comes to fractions - how do we know what has fraction in it? When you wash your meat a fraction may still be there...... but Jehovah is not unreasonable.  He can see when we obey his laws WILLINGLy........ .try our best to keep the everlasting covenant of respect for the blood which represents life.

    We cannot wilfully go ahead and break the law of God. 

  4. 6 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

    JWs fears of humans destroying the Earth if it goes on much longer,  shows a lack of faith. However I do not pretend to know God's or Christ's ways of m

    Jesus himself said that no flesh would be saved unless God stepped in. While it is not a teaching of ours to 'fear'  destruction of the earth there is a prophecy which shows we are indeed  'ruining' the earth. Rev 11:18.

    I follow news regarding this issue and the true state if affairs regarding the biosphere is hidden from the public, while scientists are playing along with US government policy to hide the true state if affairs. 

    Ice on Himalayas is melting as is a threat to the country of Bhutan, Maldives going down with rising waters.  Forests are dryer in certain areas, leaves and roots so dry that new saplings are dying. Fires in Sweden, Russia etc. The biggest secret is climate engineering..... on and on.... bla bla.... too much information available but people do not go there.

    Hebr 11:1   Faith is based on evidence.  Blind faith is not faith. 

     

  5. 6 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    According to this, blood issue aka full blood, is no more question or religious teaching where WT Society have monopoly over members decisions. 

    Whether they drank blood in Roman times and eat blood sausage in our times does not matter. What matters, is to follow bible instruction.

    The first law jehovah gave to Noah after the flood was about blood - it is called the 'everlasting covenant' which was repeated to Israel and also by jesus' disciples.

    So what part of the instruction "abstain from blood and fornication"  may we disobey?  If we break the one instruction - is it not as serious as breaking the other one?

    One must choose - do you want to obey the bible -  or not. This is not a WT Society issue but one about obedience to God.

     

  6. Whatever happens in a court.  Rutherford did well to change the Name because it brings attention to the name of jehovah. 

    I became a witness and left the church I was in BECAUSE the churches stick to traditions that are centuries old.  There is no place for spiritual growth. 

    If these IBSA guys still cling to age old ideas and the person of  Russel - no matter how sincere-  their inability to change may be their Achilles heel.  Russel made quite a few mistakes....... because   the light was only starting to shine in the days of the bible students.

    As Christian's we need to grow all the time.  Core teachings remain the same but as prophecies go into fulfillment we will definitely see new light. 

  7. 1 hour ago, César Chávez said:

    I'm not here to be admired. I'm here to speak the truth, and to let people

    Same here.  So, no prob.  If you had anything to add about the festival of Akito that I do not know about - I am prepared to listen.

    2 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

    True new light by the True Anointed, that could easily be 8.5 million people that would change to a true way of worshipping God. Plus all those misled Bible studies could learn real Truth. It would not be a difficult thing for God to achieve. Most congregants already have a 'good heart' but they are just being misled. So, all it takes is God's Holy Spirit and a change in direction. You of little faith. 

    Isaiah 2:2-4  shows a nation in the  time of the end dedicated to name of jehovah that is world wide.  That nation already exists and similar to the time of Israel the nation is not perfect but serves a purpose.  It fulfills prophecies and does the final preaching work of the "kingdom".   While I agree with you that jehovah will clean the entire organization (start with his nation first) it does not mean that they do not fulfill his prophecies. 

     

     

  8. 8 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

    He is the God, not of the dead, but of the living.” [theos x 4]

    As far as I know many languages do not have a seperate word for indefinite and definite article like in English.  This is what I understood about Greek when I looked at this many years ago.

    A letter at the end of the word indicates the difference between "the God" and "a God".   So the theon above is translated correct because it says "the god" 

    John 1 verse 1:  the God said to a god...... 

    Al-lah also means "the god" .........the highest God. 

     

  9. 4 hours ago, César Chávez said:

    This is just out of the top of my head, if memory serves.

    I do the same.  I read stuff and then move on. 

  10. 3 hours ago, the Sower of Seed said:

    A person must be willing to let go of false beliefs in order to become a True Worshiper.

    Thanks for saying this. 

    Jesus was the first to obtain immortality and incorruptability from Jehovah as a reward for remaining faithful to him until death. Jesus was like the other angels before he came to earth.  His everlasting life depended on him staying loyal to God.   Read Hebrews 1 in its entirety.

    Satan was an angel (like jesus) and became disobedient..... he will be destroyed.  

    The lie was told by Satan to Adam when he said: you will not die.  People still believe this lie. They believe that humans have a soul that goes out and it is immortal.......ecclesiastes 9: 5& 10.  Eccl 3: 19 & 20 shows that the soul knows nothing and humans die like an animal. They do not have an immortal soul. Adam would have lived forever while he obeyed God.

    The bible clearly shows that the soul dies at death.  We will be recreated at time of resurrection. SO WHAT has this to do with Jesus?  Prophecy indicates in Isaiah 53 : last verses that Jesus will put his "soul" in death to pay for our souls as randsom.  Eze 18:4  says: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.   So our souls die and Jesus put his souls willingly in death to save us.

    Abraham offered up his son..... this was a prophecy of what jehovah would do for us. Isaac could have pushed his father away but he willingly allowed his father to sacrifice him because he believed God could resurrect him - give him life again like when He opened his old mothers womb to give birth to him.  God was kind to Abraham because he substituted isaac with an animal but had to go the whole way with Jesus. Jesus willingly came to earth and knew beforehand  that he would go into non-existence for three days.  This is the example of obedience to death.  For dying unjustly while being perfect, jehovah granted him immortality and incorruptability.

    Jesus really died - his soul died. Churches who teach that Jesus is God do not really understand the randsom sacrifice. They talk about the blood of jesus but do not understand the depth of the sacrifice of Jesus.   They do not really believe that he died.  If you are immortal - you cannot die.

     

  11. 3 hours ago, César Chávez said:

    The bolster and insults didn't start with me, get it through your head. It started with Aruana.

    I did not insult you. You insult yourself in the way you speak to people. A person can have some knowledge but when you come across as arrogant and unreasonable then you are doing this to your own image...... you do not need anyone to point it out ........ it is obvious.

    JW insider is consistently polite and decent.... and you are now speaking in a most disrespectful way. ...... because I insulted you?  Now that is truly logical - lol! 

    Back to subject: I have studied other languages and know this about Greek.  When only one letter differs at the end of a word then it changes the meaning of the word.  TheoN  means God,  theoS  means : a god.

    So when it comes to the word lord it would be the same. The language I am now learning has a letter or two at the end of the noun which is a preposition such as from, of, etc. 

     

    4 hours ago, Witness said:

    They didn't become an NGO simply to acquire a library card.

    A non-governmental organization: please inform me what is wrong with this designation?

  12. 4 hours ago, Witness said:

    support the UN Charter

    When I became a US citizen I pledged loyalty for my new country but refused to go to war for this country. I signed a document.   

    I will never do anything against this country - so in my actions I support it.  I obey it in everything, until they expect me to break the law of God by going to war or to stop preaching or make acknowledgement of immorality mandatory.

    What about Roman's 13: Let every person be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God.  2 Therefore, whoever opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will bring judgment

    In order to get a library card - do you not think you are taking it too far by trying to prove how righteous you are?  We have a saying in my language which means " you are splitting hairs" over nothing.

    They registered as a NGO to get access to library..... and other services in a normal online procedure. Question: Do you read through ALL the policies when you use an internet account etc....... you may be surprised at what you sign up to.  

    4 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    and insults if you don't let the diversions work.

    I do get a lot of insults regarding my intellect..... and my devotion to mommy watchtower ....... to be expected when people do not have a love for truth or think we are babies who cannot think straight and only drink JW propaganda like mothers milk.

    4 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    Even if 607 had been correct, it would have nothing to do with 1914, from a scriptural perspective.

    Please explain this statement.

  13. 4 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    shows it's more likely they were co-rulers.

    To fulfill Daniel's prophecy there were two rulers..... Darius the Mede and the Persian from Shusan.  In 538 BCE Cyrus was crowned King of Kings. 

    And if I remember correctly the festival of Akito was 14 days long. He went up into the tower of Babel (the temple on top) and slept with the high priestess. The people loved this festival with its many activities.

    39 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

    why that scripture can be so dangerous. 

    To obey scripture is not dangerous.  That is your personal opinion because you prefer to do and think your own thing.  You are a slave to your own desires. 

    36 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

    celebration, a co- or vice-regent could represent him or "do the honors" under their own title.

    I just googled and this came up. Cyrus then claimed to be the legitimate successor of the ancient Babylonian kings and became popular in Babylon itself, in contrast to Nabonidus. 

    For this reason he was there personally..... I remember now:  he was crowned King of four corners if the earth. 

  14. 2 hours ago, César Chávez said:

    OCT of 539 BC, toward the end of the year. Therefore, everything else would have taken place in 538/537 BC just like scholars now estimate.

    Cyrus appointed Darius the Mede as Satrap (hence the 2 horned beast in Daniel - media and persia).  Darius the Mede ruled but Cyrus came back to Babylon in 538 BCE to be crowned King of Kings.

    As I studied this history many moons ago - I did not just read about dates but tried to understand the culture-  I recall that BAbylon became the most important ancient religious centre.  There is good reason why jehovah calls the world empire of false religion "Babylon the Great" because it was from here that most false traditions spread.  What is very significant is the mix of religion and the highest head of government (religion and politics).

    Even when Syria became a dominating world  power in the region and there was strife between these countries- their cultures were intertwined. Several kings still travelled to Babylon to be crowned as king of kings - it was the tradition with great significance. It was a sign of great power and blessing of the gods..... or humiliation.

    The temple complex of Esigilia was rebuilt by Nebuchadnezzar and shrines erected everywhere.  He did his research like modern rulers do and restored the old traditions in their full glory. No wonder he was so proud of himself!  

    2 hours ago, César Chávez said:

    also the time of turmoil for Cyrus

    Political turmoil or domestic turmoil? 

    3 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    The festival of Akitu was not just celebrated in 538 BCE, but EACH and EVERY year for centuries prior and

    Yes it was celebrated every year BUT it was NOT celebrated for quite some time.  Nabonides did not attend any of the festivals as king- especially the festival of Akito which was seen as a grave sin  This was the reason he was hated by his people.  They were sure their gods were going to punish them all for his neglect.  He left Beltshazzar in charge while he went off to Arabia (city of Tema) to build a temple to the Moongod. His mother had been a priestess of the moongod.  This was seen as treason.  The festival was re-installed with great pomp. 

  15. 24 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

    Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among youz and be submissive,a for they are keeping watch over you* as those who will render an account,b so that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to you.

    Quote "When we stand in front of the judgment seat of God, there isn’t going to be an elder holding our hand, or telling us how to think... "          No not then but there are NOW. 

    The GB say they are the F&DS and have said in W/t that they are tthat they are the ONE chathat they are the ONE he ONE chathat the ONE he ONE chathat they are the ONE channel they are the ONE channel that God is using nnel that God is using (although denying it at ARC) and that congregants should trust THEM. The GB give 'authority' through the ranks, down to the Elders. Then the scripture at Hebrews mentioned above is used to enforce the Elders 'authority'. 

    So, if a person is an obedient JW, they cannot choose to be responsible for their own spirituality if it goes against serving the GB and the JW Org.  You and others cannot get this through your heads. 

    If a congregant has thoughts that the GB and JW Org are wrong, and if they prove to themselves from scripture, they have to make a choice. Stay in the ORG, in which case then they are serving the GB / Org, or, leave.  

    I think you suggested that a person should do their own research but keep quiet about it. 

    Quote " If we discern it’s wrong direction then we act on our own behalf, and not tell others what to do, because everyone else has a Bible too."

    Now this is where @Arauna will start to say that i 'misuse' scripture. BUT you @Anna are saying use the Bible myself. And thereby lies a contradiction. I can pray for spiritual help and read my bible and come to a decision as to what a scripture means to me. BUT @Arauna will tell me I am misusing the scriptures. Hence, I've said on here so many times before that ONLY the true Anointed will  know truth from the scriptures. Why ? Obviously because we can all have our own opinions as to what each scripture OObviously because we can all have our own opinions as to what each scripture Obviously bviously because we can all have our own opinions as to what each scripture means. means. 

    We can take for example @JW Insider 's explanation about the NON 'sign oNON 'sign of the times'.  f the times'.  Which @Arauna seems to totally disagree with. 

    Quote " We already talked about why there is no need for the anointed to form some kind of s

    Be obedient to those taking the lead amongst you: what do YOU believe this scripture means.

    "Obviously because we can all have our own opinions as to what each scripture "  - your quote.

    This kind of philosophy/thinking I found prevalent in the west in first world countries...... at work.....everywhere .  Meaning that there can be no unity because all do and think as they please but only cooperate and keep quiet because they want their pay .  This way of  thinking has also infiltrated the Christian congregation...... each one wants their independent opinion - not realizing that this causes division. 

    I prefer to try to understand why the GB opinion differs from mine.  

    You think I am a GB puppet - I am not.  However, I have learnt to think about what the GB say and why they say it..... so I can cooperate to the best of my abilities.  The sin Adam did was egotistical - he wanted to be independent from jehovah.  This tendency is still the greatest deceiver of those who like to deceive themselves.   Their freedom is not true freedom because they are a slave to themselves. 

    40 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

    think you've been listening to / reading toooooo much from @Arauna .

    Anna will not listen to me - she knows better. She happens to agree with me because it is logical.  Something you do not see. You listen to Witness who will lead you down the garden path because you like your own opinion and independence more than the truth.  You are a slave to your own desires/ideas.

    45 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

    The Anointed are not the same as the Earthly Class. The sooner people get this through their heads the better for everyone. The Anointed are the BODY OF CHRIST. Do you not understand that God has a special use for them even now. Otherwise God could anoint a person when they were on their deathbed. That Body of Christ has a right to communicate with each

    Not to the point where they all want special treatment. The special use is being a slave of God...... and the commission is to preach and teach.  I know another anointed lady who has been a pioneer most of her life,  she must now be 87 and still going strong. Smart but humble, raising 5 faithful children with an unfaithful husband who later divorced her.  She gave me wonderful advice.  Apparently she still cooks for pioneers.....  

  16. 5 minutes ago, César Chávez said:

    Allen Smith” gave a detailed

    Actually, the festival of Akito was left out and no-one wrote about it.  Mr Allen was not as thorough as he thinks he is. 

    Try not to be so dismissive. Did you not read in 1 cor 8 that knowledge puffs up?  Or have you also thrown God out with the bathwater like Allan has ?  A lot of knowledge without insight does that to people......

    6 minutes ago, Witness said:

    NGO a member in other countries?

    I have not researched this but I believe one cannot do hurricane relief work or other disaster relief without such a membership.  The org.  needs to register as a non-governmental organization because access will be restricted. 

    Knowing some people who are quick to judge our org, this membership will stumble them as well -  just as the library facilities membership  did.  

    35 minutes ago, César Chávez said:

    because they have allowed the devil to influence others within the organization.

    People allow themselves to be influenced by the devil and it shows in their attitudes.  I have done my personal research - I believe the biblical time line is extremely important as in any project that is managed. Jehovah is administering his universal project perfectly Eph 1:9. 

    One can  intrinsically prove that the bible is the word of God by the logic, continuity and consistency of its main theme and the time-line of the kingdom that is given.  

  17. 12 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

    Can you not decide from your own Bible reading what is right in God's eyes ? 

    Unfortunately most Christian denominations still take whole blood - so reading the bible did not help them to apply the scriptures in their lives to "abstain" from blood.

    The GB council does help many to see this important principle to respect life.

    10 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

    All I did was give you a truthful and logical answer. 

    I have seen nothing logical coming from you. Only personal deprecating comments and misapplied scriptures.

  18. 7 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    She seems to be looking for a sign when as already mentioned there will be no sign.  We do not know the day or

    I saw your application of the scripture you chose - it was taken out of context...... but I did not want to waste my eyes to answer you.  Signs of the times are here like blossoms on the fig tree. .... whether you believe in signs or not. 

    I see them and my faith is stronger for it. I also appreciate how the GB has identified the UN, beast and image of the beast correctly even though many here view them as bumbling old men. 

     

     

    9 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

    Do you think women cannot be of the Anointed then ? 

    The bible indicates that women must wear a head covering when they teach and if brothers are available to step back. This was in the congregation back in time of Paul when all were anointed.

    Women who are anointed know what jehovah expects and will not push themselves forward.

  19. 3 hours ago, César Chávez said:

    How little people here know their history and the

    I (the little person),  enjoyed how you laid out the British part of the empire history in the middle east before 1914 and you mentioned how Russel understood 1914 to be significant - by whatever means. 

    To me, this history you highlighted is important history of the "little horn" in Daniel chapter 7, the one which boasts and later grows and becomes the 7th head of the beast in rev 13 - also depicted as the false prophet of Revelation 13 (the beast with 2 horns -anglo-american dual world power- who speaks like a lamb but is a dragon.)  This is the beast who will harass the holy ones of God and also, in it's time the Son of man will go into the court before his Father and receive his crown - the kingdom government. This time sequence is important in time of end prophecy because it relates to the other prophecies in Matt and Luke about the perousia. 

    This is the 7th beast which must rule for a period of time and in which time according to Daniel 7 - jesus would be crowned in heaven........... and the " image of the beast " will come into existence (go down and come up again).  This happens AFTER Jesus is crowned in heaven. These previous 7 beasts were confined to certain parts of the globe where the majority of god's people were to be affected by its hegemony.  

    Since the nation of God- dedicated to his name and called his people according to Isaiah 2:2-4-   will come from  every tribe and nation "in the last days" ,  one realizes that one now must look at global events - no longer only at regional developments or to single empires (7  consecutive heads). The nation of God will be affected by what is going on at a global scale in time of end since the "image of the beast" has 7 heads with 10 crowns and it becomes the eighth king for a short period.  All those who refuse to worship the image of the wild beast will be killed and will not be able to buy or sell in the countries they are living. Rev13:15.  This happens before Armageddon.  The 7th head and image of the beast which is the 8th king,  clearly indicates quite a period of time will pass after the crowning of christ.

    Jehovah is a strict time keeper and let's us know in his word what to expect. We have already entered the time where 176 nations have willingly given the "image of the beast " authority to control its policies.  The UN has already dictating policy to EU, Canada, Australia, NZ, southern and central Africa and has just given Russia and China the go-ahead for its 35 satellites to surveille those under its jurisdiction when China and Russia have synchronized their surveillance systems by June 2020.  Beidou and GLONASS.  It is capable of much more than they are telling. The middle east, Turkey and north Africa will work with Russia.  China and Russia has forged its alliance which is getting stronger.  UN sees China as a world model to follow - crazy though it seems.  They believe that control of populations will bring world peace.  Those who do not obey will face the consequences. 

    America has been infiltrated by NGOs and foreign money  via foundations, propaganda and philosophy, to the extent that it will comply with UN wishes.   I doubt the next election will be fair because Google is working with UN as is other major super capitalist / oiligarchical corporations . .... filtering all propaganda to suit UN objectives.  BUT we may still be surprised as there is a nationalistic popular resistance in EU, UK, and US against UN policies of globalization with no borders. This may lengthen the time for UN to brings its plans to fruition.  So we can read the times we are living in but do not know how fast or slow it will proceed. ..... so the day and hour remains elusive.

    I look at current "global " history - to see where we are in stream of time.  The slave has given us enough food and understanding to peer into the scriptures on our own.  They have understood the beast, image of the beast etc.  Spot-on.  There is no doubt in my mind that they are used by jehovah - warts and all.

    This is why the GB is so urgent in its message to get ourselves into spotless  condition to stay faithful. Things/events will now start moving very fast so that no-one can keep up with the quick  developments. UN, Russia and China have been working on 20-25 year strategies....and global capitalists in the West and UN have all been  working together for at least 70 years. Their plans will come to fruition because opposition will be crushed in a brutal way.

    We are already almost there but the exact new developments and the time remains hidden.

     

     

    1 hour ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    self aggrandizing lie, contrary to facts.

     I read the 607 discussion on this forum a while back ..... I saw that no-one mentioned the festival of Akitu which took place in 538 BCE. Cyrus was appointed king of kings on Nissan 1-14 in 14 day festival. It was then when he gave decree that all could go back.  It gave one year for Israelites all over the empire to get the message, pack up, meet each other and take the trek of 4 months back to Jerusalem.

    All contributors did not know about this or wilfully ignore this historical fact. .... in order to disprove the accuracy of 607 BCE. 

  20. I just wrote  (and lost) a long answer which demonstrated how in the entire US civil war just over 640,000 were killed -  not millions. Another war in which in one day 3000 persons were killed in 1838...... in which guns were used in fierce battle. 

    Only with godly intervention there were millions upon millions killed.  Only after 1914 do we see unprecedented numbers of persons  killed in one day..which fits the horses of Revelation....... the front horse being a crowned king.

    Just read Matt 24 again and see the sequence of events in Jesus' time and today as well.  Some here have taken it out of sequence and context.  I wrote a paragraph about the constant wars and how Titus came back in 70CE - lost this too! 

    Today we have similar signs. I read today how the Beidou  positioning and surveillance satelite system will take over the world by the alliance between Russia and China (with UN approval ) which will give them more navigational power (even underwater) than USA. Google is cooperating.  

    After June 2020 the world will start to change and you will see what I have been talking about.  The signs are already here. When the thief will break in, we do not know.

    My eyes are weak and my fingers bad..... so I say goodbye.  

    I will go and give ideas to those who want to hear.  Not those who think they are superior to JWs or secular in their thinking.  I have to use my eyes on more worthy pursuits. 

    I know what is going on in the world but my thinking is not worldly. I have not been compromised by secularism.

  21. 10 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

    Anyone that supports the GB are in fact

    Someone has to delegate the work.  The GB do not do the work but give oversight.  So you think women should be doing this work when bible clearly says that overseers must be men?

  22. 4 minutes ago, Kosonen said:

    Matthew 18:19 Again I tell you truly, if two of you on earth agree concerning anything of importance that they should request, it will take place for them on account of my Father in heaven.+20  For where there are two or three gathered together in my name,+ there I am in their midst.”

    Yes, only if your motives are pure.  Why form an elite group? Jesus never gave permission for this. Read James and you will see that if you single out the rich man or show any partiality - you are not doing the will of  jehovah but your own will.

  23. 6 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

    Would not truly anointed ones actually want to meet together ?

    There you go again. If they were truly anointed they would not want to single themselves out and get their own following.  True humility does not mean you create your own club.

  24. 1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Do you suggest, with this quote, how people would live in more peace if technology (materialistic) progress did not happen? 

    no- mankind are warmongers but as they progress they do think up more deadly weapons. 1914 - WW1 is a milestone in a sudden surge of technology I.e. the first war was unprecedented in the use of its variety of new technologies as killing machines. Ww2 was a repetition of the same with even more advanced tech built on the old tech..... same generation.

    1 hour ago, Kosonen said:

    What you say is not so remarkable because the

    Ancient battles were fought by sword against sword.  A man had to fight hard to draw blood to kill one man. The ferocious battle of Angincor lasted the entire day and  killed only approx. 6400 people altogether.  The fastest they could move was by horse.  

    Compare WW1...... first day of battle of Somme was 19, 240  British  fatalities and  38, 230 injured.

    Horses: The exception was the Germans who stuck to their horses together with mobile transport- this did not work to their advantage. 

    It was no longer man against man but technology against technology.  Larger numbers of people fell more swiftly than ever before.  Think of Russia - apart from WW1 they starved millions of their own people.  The 'lowest ' estimate is 20 million starved and died  in Russia alone.  China murdered up to 60 million of their own citizens - all this happened AFTER 1914.   If you do not understand the large scale killing which came after 1914.......then you choose to be blind. 

    1 hour ago, Kosonen said:

    live now instead of 100 or 200 years ago. We don't experience premature death our

    On which planet are you living? Oh - I guess you live in inward-looking USA who only see and are fed the local picture on the news.  Typical of well-fed societies, they do not notice when other societies do not have their daily bread. 

    Premature death includes famine as a result of war and climate change and sickness, terrorism, just to name three factors. Ebola,  drug-resistant malaria, drug-resistant TB,  MRSA etc take many lives prematurely. ( the pale horse in Revelation 6).

    Yemen is at present facing catastrophic death of children due to famine just to name one  famine.  Why do you think the UN is promoting migrants to move?  And promote international law to force an acceptance of migrants and give them what they need- food, housing, free medical etc.  True, there is a larger agenda behind it but there is also untold suffering on this earth in greater numbers than ever before due to exponential population explosion in third world countries.

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