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    JayDubya reacted to Matthew9969 in I'm worried about a 'brother' recently reinstated spending too much time with my grandchildren   
    Over here in the U.S. we have a national sex offender list that anyone can see for free. It's a list of men or women who have raped children. Do you have the same there?
     
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    JayDubya reacted to Witness in JWs want Supreme Court to help them cover up Child Abuse !!   
    A comment on this article and its writer, by John Redwood:
    Thanks to Hemant Mehta for picking up my JW Survey article about the JW v Watchtower case and Watchtower's appeal to the US Supreme Court.
    Hemant has a brilliant and unique perspective on life, which is why he comes up with some bold titles for his articles.
    Take this one for example:
    "The Jehovah's Witnesses Want the Supreme Court to Help Them Cover Up Sex Abuse"
    I would like to address this title- because it's EXACTLY the kind of headline Watchtower will call an "Apostate-Driven Lie."
    From the standpoint of Watchtower - this title is false and an absolute fabrication. They would say that under no circumstances do they wish to cover up child abuse. Would they be correct?
    If one of their elders called headquarters and asked whether this is true or not- headquarters would tell them absolutely not. They would say that they endeavor at all times to cooperate with law enforcement, as stated in their May 2019 Watchtower article about child abuse. They would say that they only keep records of child molesters to protect the congregation, and they should be applauded for their diligence in keeping such situations under control.
    So, the elder would hang up the phone satisfied that the JW organization he represents does everything possible to protect children, and that they are not covering up anything.
    Hence, he would now go back to his fellow elders and congregation members and say "You see brothers, Satan is really working through the media and is trying very hard to spread these false apostate lies about our organization. We must avoid apostates at all costs, and always turn off the TV when we see such reports"
    This is how Jehovah's Witnesses are manipulated and controlled into believing that all false reports and headlines like this are blatant Satanic lies.
    It's very subtle.
    Witnesses trust their elders, and the elders trust the organization's leaders, and if those leaders tell them its all lies- they believe it and bring this message back to the flock. Average rank and file Jehovah's Witnesses do not have direct connectivity with the Watchtower legal and Service Departments. Even if they did, they would not get answers and would be told that these matters are being handled by responsible brothers who have prayed for Jehovah's direction - so let's leave the matter in Jehovah's hands.
    Meanwhile- the headlines are true.
    When Hemant says the JWs want help covering up child abuse, he's not wrong.
    Is the title click-bait? Maybe. But why shouldn't it be? Journalists use catchy titles to grab people's attention. The real question we must ask is "Does the article have the facts to back up the title?"
    And in the answer is: Absolutely yes.
     
    This is why Jehovah's Witnesses are on the verge of falling into the chasm of no return, the abyss of disgrace.
    The facts could not be any more clear: Jehovah's Witnesses have openly admitted that they collect data from every congregation in the world related to child abusers and their victims, and they openly admit that they have no desire to turn this information over to criminal and civil authorities.
    Period. It's just that simple.
    Read their Supreme Court appeal. They are using the United States Constitution as a cover for concealing what they call confidential communications, or "privileged" communications.
    it's one thing to say that the confession of a guilty person to their pastor or elder is privileged communication - but it's entirely another matter when three dozen pastors all know about and investigate the crimes committed, and they all claim that it must never be shared with the authorities - or even the families of the victims.
    If that's not a cover-up, I don't know what is.
    Facts are facts, and at the end of the day, it all comes down to whose side are you on- the side of truth and transparency, or the side of protecting the reputation and assets of a religion.
    If we learned anything from the movie Spotlight, it's that we don't want to be on the wrong side of this.
     
     
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    JayDubya reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Open letter to Daro Weilburg   
    Monetary compensation is the only "Justice" one can hope for under the current secular laws for civil injuries.   I would be quite happy if a person so convicted would be surgically modified to be considerably shorter, or that dueling was allowed.  It used to be that Fathers, relatives or even the victims would shoot the criminals, and juries would show extreme leeway in considering the justifiably of it.
    Under the current system monetary awards are the ONLY way to get justice in a civil lawsuit for injuries suffered.
    Unfortunately .... torture is not allowed.
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    JayDubya reacted to JJJ-AUSTRALIA in Open letter to Daro Weilburg   
    Baruq Apparently is only "understandable" because she is fighting to get compensated as she is not a JWs. What about all JWs that were abused and are still in the organisation they should get compensated too... but hard as we are not supposed to talk about it or to know anything about it...
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    JayDubya reacted to Baruq JW in Open letter to Daro Weilburg   
    Open letter to Daro Weilburg Dear Daro,
    I must ask you first of all to forgive my boldness, since, although almost fifteen years younger than you, I have to reproach you. Do not think I mean to disrespect. But having as a predecessor Elihu, who, in spite of his youth, did not refrain from rebuking the venerable Job I believe that I can in good conscience follow the example of this wise figure of antiquity.
    I watched some of your videos on the internet. I answer here because you have blocked all comments on your page, so it is impossible to reach you. I have no doubt that you are a sincere person, but beware! in the darkest days of modern history, sincere men have exterminated hundreds of thousands of others. Sincerity does not imply being right or excusable for any of our actions or statements.
    With this preamble in mind, I hope you will understand that I may have found two of your videos that you have posted online shocking, videos in which you discuss the topic of child abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses Organisation, taking as a basis the highly publicised case of Candace Conti.
    You find it unlikely that a woman could have waited years before revealing the aggression she was the victim of and you call her a liar. But what do you know about the feelings of a girl-child who has complete confidence in adults and who can not imagine that one of them can hurt her, especially if he is a relative, a close family member, a brother of the congregation, or even an elder? These young girls probably had no idea what was happening to them. Some were threatened or blackmailed if they said anything. That's the way things work with paedophiles. Within the Catholic Church, as well as within the Jehovah's Witnesses organisation, or within all institutions where adults are in contact with children.
    You will notice that the Watchtower of May 2019, although it does not provide any solutions to the victims, does not say anything else:
    It is all too easy for devious abusers to deceive children. Abusers teach children dangerous lies, such as the idea that the child is to blame, that the abuse must be kept secret, that no one will listen or care if the child reports the abuse, or that sexual acts between an adult and a child are actually normal expressions of sincere love. Such lies can distort a child’s thinking ability and perception of truth for many years. Such a child may grow up thinking of herself or himself as damaged, defiled, and unworthy of love or comfort.
    And you would you like to condemn these innocent lives? You would like to deny them the right to justice, because many years have passed? You support the two witnesses rule imposed by the Governing Body, when it is the very nature of the paedophiles to act in secret? You are talking about forensics when it is already difficult for a woman to gain recognition of a rape she just suffered as an adult? How can this be inflicted on a child? How cruel you are!
    From what you're saying, it seems that Candace Conti woke up one fine day and that she went on the internet, found a picture of a man she did not even know and decided to accuse him, all this for personal gain. Does this seem plausible to you? For me, it seems difficult. Given that you have experienced it, you can understand the feelings of a person facing a court and his lot of judges, prosecutors, lawyers, usually men, often incredulous, perplexed or skeptical, sometimes hostile. In your case, it was your own mistakes that led you in the dock. But you can not put yourself in the shoes of a woman who humbles herself by confessing that she has been raped while feeling the shame for what she suffered, constantly repeating, again and again, the same story. One would need to have a surprising strength of character to build such a lie. I can believe that some have done it, perfidy is not the prerogative of either sex, but here we are speaking of thousands of cases. Thousands of liars?
    You claimed:
    That doesn’t happen in any Kingdom Hall. Anywhere in the world. There is no way that an elder or a parent of a child would allow a man to take a small young child out in the ministry alone. That’s a lie. It’s not gonna happen. Not in any Kingdom Hall, 120,000 in the entire world, it’s not gonna happen. It’s a lie. (“Is Candace Conti lying about being molested by A JW elder at 9?” on Youtube)
    Dear Daro, please let me tell you that you are absolutely wrong, because here is the reality: in more than fifty years, I attended about a dozen congregations in three different lands. I can therefore confirm that leaving a child alone with an adult is a common thing in all congregations! After all, are we not supposed to live in a spiritual paradise in which everyone is beautiful and kind? Who can hurt us? Because, if that's the case, then where is the paradise? For some, it would rather be hell.
    Perhaps things have changed recently, as the Governing Body has revised its policy to protect themselves from the ever-increasing claims for having done nothing to protect the weakest among its flock, preferring to put responsibility on the parents and the elders if something should happen to a child in the congregation. But the harm that has been done in the past cannot be changed.
    Finally, the words you use about Barbara Anderson are not worthy of someone who calls himself a disciple and a member of the self-proclaimed only true religion gathering the people of God (you will notice that I avoided using the term “Christian”, the latter being able to qualify only the one who follows Christ and not an organisation). This woman has been the voice of thousands of silent victims who have found, thanks to her, the courage to emerge from their mess. So out of respect for a person who has given years of her life to this fight and paid a heavy price, I think you should measure your words.
    Dear Daro, I know you will have a hard time accepting my comments, but it is a matter between God and you. As for me, I think I have done my duty.
    With Christian love,
    Baruq
    https://www.baruq.uk/open_letter_to_daro_weilburg_en.html
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    JayDubya reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in "WATCHTOWER APPEALS TO THE SUPREME COURT"   
    Witness:
    I am deeply ashamed for the reputation of Jehovah, and the Brotherhood that the Governing Body has Lawyers that will spare no effort, time, and money to PERVERT Justice.
    I wish you were lying or agenda driven, but I know from independent research everything you said here is true .... and that there is more, besides that.
    Thanks for the vigilance.
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    JayDubya reacted to Witness in "WATCHTOWER APPEALS TO THE SUPREME COURT"   
    From John Redwood...
    A preview of upcoming news:
    Jehovah's Witnesses are appealing to the Supreme Court of the United States, but this time it has nothing to do with preaching or saluting the flag.
    It's all about child abuse.
    Specifically, the protection (or cover-up) of information, documents, and testimony of persons involved in cases of child abuse.
    I will be covering this story in the coming weeks and months, but I thought I would share some of this news and try to distill it down as simply as I can.
    I'd like to point out first that Watchtower has appealed to the Supreme Court in connection with their loss of yet another California child abuse case. The chance that Watchtower's appeal being will be heard by the Supreme Court is slim, but anything is possible.
    What brought this about?
    There are many ongoing civil child abuse cases in California. One such case is J.W. versus Watchtower. J.W. happens to be the initials for the victim of former JW elder Gilbert Simental, who went on a spree of molestation which touched the lives of numerous victims.
    As with other cases, the plaintiff demanded that Watchtower turn over to the court a database of child abuse cases known to be maintained by Watchtower of New York.
    In this particular case, because Watchtower failed to turn over the documents in a timely manner, attorneys asked for a default judgment of just over 4 million dollars.
    The court agreed with the plaintiff and entered a default judgment in that amount. Watchtower was required to post a bond of more than 6 million dollars while their appeal was pending.
    Watchtower lost their appeal, and the decision of the court was upheld. This decision is final- with one exception.
    Watchtower has decided to appeal to the United States Supreme court on the basis that their judicial hearings related to child abuse matters are "confidential intra-faith communications" and that they do not, and should not, reveal those communications or documents to anyone, including civil courts.
    I'd like to make it very clear what Watchtower is doing here. They are fighting for their right NOT to allow civil authorities to dictate what is confidential, and what is not confidential.
    All of this is in relation to their claim that elders do not have the right or duty to report child abuse to the authorities.
    Watchtower overtly lies to their members by claiming that they obey secular laws, except when they conflict with God's laws.
    Yet they break the law every single time by advising elders NOT to report child abuse to the authorities.
    It does NOT matter whether child abuse occurs in a mandatory reporting state- elders STILL do not report to the police because Watchtower has told them that ALL of their communications are protected by clergy-penitent privilege.
    This is false- and it is exactly why they are losing tens of millions of dollars in child abuse civil cases. Watchtower advises elders to break the law.
    And now they want the Supreme Court of the United States to agree with them.
    The claim that the state of California has unfairly targeted Jehovah's Witnesses and "intruded upon matters of church governance."
    Why???
    How does compliance with mandatory child abuse reporting laws conflict with God's laws? It doesn't. This is a fabrication of Watchtower attorneys working for the Governing Body, and it's become quite clear that they feel that compliance with these civil laws will spell disaster for their religion.
    And they might be right.
    If Jehovah's Witnesses did the right thing and complied with the law, they would lose the tight grip of control over their elder bodies in ways which frighten the hell out of them.
    There is a whole lot more to this story as well as the underlying cases involved, but I wanted to let you know what's going on.
    Attorneys for J.W. (the abuse victim) will be filing an opposition to Watchtower's appeal in August, and we should have a decision from the Supreme Court by October on whether they will accept Jehovah's Witnesses appeal for review.
    Stay tuned!!
    https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/chtj2j/watchtower_appeals_to_supreme_court/
     
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    JayDubya got a reaction from Witness in JWs want Supreme Court to help them cover up Child Abuse !!   
    @James Thomas Rook Jr. this article came from friendly atheist.  Something stuck out to me that was so true: “Given Watchtower’s disrespect for the legal system, penchant for violating court orders and habitual disregard for the rules of the court from which it is begging for mercy, it is not the litigant to champion any allegedly important issue before this Court. This is not a case that warrants this Court’s time.”
     https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/08/11/the-jehovahs-witnesses-want-the-supreme-court-to-help-them-cover-up-sex-abuse/
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    JayDubya reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in How many ribs did Adam have?   
    Queen Esther:
    Since the Bible does not say, and you do not have x-rays, can you please tell me HOW you reached the conclusions about a "partial rib", and his rib grew back?
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    JayDubya got a reaction from Anna Rajala in Man sentenced to 60 years to life for sexually assaulting three young girls he met through church   
    Good. I'm glad they are being exposed and families are being empowered to speak up and speak out.  I'm glad persons who commit these types of crimes are reaping what they have sown.  No longer will the KH be used as a hiding place for pedophiles.   
    I hope healing takes place rapidly and thoroughly for all involved.  
     
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    JayDubya reacted to Evacuated in What kind of Cosmetics can you use if you are TWO FACED?   
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    JayDubya reacted to Patrick J Delaney in “This Generation” - may soon be clarified...   
    After much prayerful reflection on the Scriptures, I have come to the realisation that the true identity of the “generation” Jesus spoke of at Matthew 24:34 may soon be revealed. There Jesus said, “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.” I think the understanding JehovahÂ’s Witnesses currently hold on this scripture is incorrect. I believe that Joel chapter 2 will have a second fulfillment in the last days of this complete world system, just as it had a primary fulfillment in the last days of the Jewish system at Pentecost 33 CE. At that time true Christians were sealed with Holy Spirit. I believe that there will be yet another true spirit anointing or sealing in the near future. This is what John was referring to when he spoke of the sealing of the 144,000 in revelation chapter 7. The spiritual Israelite nation must be reborn. (Isaiah 66:8). The great crowd mentioned in the same chapter belong to the same group but are seen standing before the throne after Armageddon coming out of all nations. This sealing will result in a true restoration of pure worship as indicated by EzekielÂ’s prophecy of the valley of dry bones. (Ezekiel 37). Jehovah blows his spirit into the bones and they live. The preaching work up to now could be compared to the work of John the Baptist. It is a baptism of repentance for forgiveness of sins. By their actions JehovahÂ’s Witnesses prove themselves to be true Christians having repented of their sins. Yet they are not spirit anointed. I believe Jehovah is preparing them for a true spirit anointing. Their understanding of scripture will be refined. (See Malachi 3:1) The great worldwide preaching work, in fulfillment of the the “angel flying in mid heaven with everlasting good news to declare” is yet future. (Revelation 14) The fulfillment of the prophecies in Matthew 24, and other related prophecies concerning the last days find their real fulfillment in the future. The last days have not yet begun. Jesus told his followers to “Learn from the fig tree when itÂ’s branch grows tender and puts forth leaves.” (Matthew 24:32-34). The fig tree represents Israel. I believe that this illustration could be a referring to the spiritual Israelite nation blossoming forth beginning with an outpouring of Holy Spirit. At least some of the generation of Christians that witness the birth of this new spiritual nation will be still alive on earth to witness the end of the age. This outpouring of Holy Spirit may occur in the very near future.
     
     
     
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    JayDubya reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in “This Generation” - may soon be clarified...   
    Soon enough .... perhaps TOO soon, we will ... each and every one of us ... will know for sure.
    In the meantime, my major concern is to have common sense, a correct view of reality the way it REALLY is, and to stay sane when it seems all around me, people are going bat crap crazy, interpreting invisible things with absolutely no REAL evidence of any kind.
    What that means is ... I am going to do the best I can ... and ignore all the prognostications.
    In the history of civilization .... no one ... no one at all ... has so far gotten it right.
    I hope it will be good enough .... but if it is not, perhaps I will die ..... but at least I will be sane.
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    JayDubya reacted to Spencer Boden in Macron has been fulfilling all the prophecies of the Antichrist.   
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    The Antichrist
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    ------------------------#1
    His show of devil horns when he greets the public with Trump at the White House in this YouTube video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67q75vXDC7s
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    The meaning of his name:
    Emmanuel Jean-Michel Frédéric Macron
    Emmanuel - God with us
    Jean - Gift from God
    Michel - who is like God?
    Frédéric - peaceful ruler (Prince of Peace is the title for Jesus Christ)
    Macron - a short, straight mark (The Antichrist is known to require people to take his mark in order to be able to buy or sell in the bible, known as the mark of the best)
    Revelation 13: 16-17
    16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
    ------------------------#3
    His name adds up to 666:
    There are 36 total characters in his name (32 letters, 1 dash, 3 spaces). If you give each character a value of it's position and calculate the sum, you get 666. (1+2+3+...+36 = 666).
    Revelation 13: 18
    18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is [n]six hundred and sixty-six.
    ------------------------#4
    His birthday is the Winter Solstice:
    He was born on 21 December 1977, which is the Winter Solstice or the shortest day of the year. The reason December 24 and December 25 were picked for Jesus' birthday is because those were considered to be the Winter Solstice, or the shortest day of the year.
    ------------------------#5
    His country was part of the Roman Empire:
    The Antichrist will come from the people who destroyed the Jewish temple, which was the Roman Empire.
    Daniel 9: 26
    26 Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.
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    He's Co-Prince of Andorra:
    The Antichrist will be a prince.
    Daniel 9: 26
    26 Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.
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    His choice of symbolism
    -He named his dog Nemo Macron. In english gematria, this adds up to 666.
    -He has a pentacle in the mural in his office. When the pentacle is flipped upside down, it looks strikingly similar to the Sigil of Baphomet, which is the official isignia of the Church of Satan.
    -He had a rally where he stood on a podium that was lit up in the shape of a cross when he was running for president.
    -He had a rally where he stood on a podium that was shaped like the incomplete pyramid when he was running for president.
    -He walked out to the European Union national anthem "Ode to Joy", a song about god, instead of the French national anthem when he made his presidential victory speech.
    -His name transliterates to 'horse overcomes dragon' in Chinese. When he went to China, he gave the Chinese president a horse named Vesuvius, which is the name of Europe's most dangerous volcano. The Chinses president shortly after removed restrictions on the number of term limits he had to stay in power.
    -He gave his speech in Greece at the Pynx, the location of where democracy started.
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    He's a financial genious.
    He was promoted from an entry level position with the Rotshchild banking system to a partner after just two years. The banker who promoted him said he promoted him within after one meeting, something that the banker said was unheard of before that. He ended up leading a 10.9 billion dollar merger. His nickname was the Mozard of Finance.
    ------------------------#9
    He's very smart economically.
    He was Deputy Secretary-General of the Élysée for two years, then quickly promoted to Minister of Economy and Finance. Ever since, he's completely been reforming labor laws in France which have caused multiple violent protests.
    ------------------------#10
    He's a political genious.
    -He started his own party En Marche which had his own initials. He later changed the name to La Republique En Marche. His party went from being created to having 350 out of 577 seats in the French parlaiment in one year.
    -He has a team exploring creating his own party for the European Union and even his own political school.
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    All three parts of the Revelation 12 signs of the Bible correspond to his political rise to power.
    - The beginning of the first Revelation 12 sign was on November 17, 2016 - The planet Jupiter (the king planet) enters the constellation Virgo (the virgin).
    - Macron announced his run for president on Novermber 16, 2016 (one day before the first part of the Revelation 12 sign).
    - The first Revelation 12 sign was on September 23, 2017. Jupiter left the womb of Virgo after 9 1/2 months (Virgo's gestation period with Jupiter). In that instant, Virgo had three stars near the constellation Leo, which is the king constellation above her head to form 12 crowns. She also had the sun over her shoulder to be clothed in the sun and the moon at her feet.
    - Macron made his speech on the EU, asking for the creation of a European army and defense budget a on Semptember 26, 2017 (3 days after the first Revelation 12 sign).
    - The Second Revelation 12 sign was on December 20, 2017. The constellations Corona Borealis (the crown), Serpens Caput (the serpent head), Serpens Cauda (the serpent tail), and Hydra (the water serpent) formed into one giant constellation that surrounded Virgo. Corona Borealis has seven stars representing seven crowns of the dragon. These are above Serpens Caput which has seven stars representing the seven heads. Five planets moved to connect Serpens Cauda which has five stars to form ten stars or the ten horns. These connected to Hydra, which is the largest constellation and takes up 8 or the 24 hours, or 1/3 of the night sky and represents the tail of the dragon that brought down a third of the stars from the sky.
    - He had his One Planet Summit where he had many of the world leaders meet in Paris to sign a climate accord. Everyone signed except for Trumpa and America. This was on on December 12, 2017 (8 days before the second Revelation 12 sign.
    Revelation 12 sign in the Bible:
    12 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was with child; and she *cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.
    3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads were seven diadems. 4 And his tail *swept away a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she gave birth he might devour her child.
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    Macron said he wants to rule as Jupiter and that his thoughts are too complex for the media. Jupiter was also the king planet in Virgo for the Revelation 12 sign. Jupiter is also the Roman God of Gods, also known as the Greek god Zeus. Hitler modeled his podium after the altar of Zeus which was in Perganum. The book of revelation also says Satan's throne is in Perganum, where Zeus' altar is.
    Revelation 2: 12-13
    12 “And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write: The One who has the sharp two-edged sword says this: 13 ‘I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days of Antipas, My witness, My faithful one, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.
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    Macron is changing many labor laws and wants to change Sunday work times. He has full power with his party controlling parlaiment.
    Daniel 7:25
    25 He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.
    ------------------------#14
    Macron has made and offered to make peace treaties (by peace he shall destroy many).
    Macron negotiated a peace treaty in Libya shortly after he became president. He has also been calling for talks a peace treaty between Israel and Palestine.
    Daniel 8: 25
    25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
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    Macron is working on becoming the beast which comes out of the sea with 7 heads and 10 horns, with the 8th head of the 7.
    France didn't come out of the Middle East, which is refered to as the land or holy land, but he came out of the sea of nations. The 8th head that is of the 7 that was and isn't and will be is the revived Roman Empire. He is working on uniting Europe which would be a return of this power. He has also announced a European military force of 10 nations. These are the 10 horns (France, the U.K., Germany, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal, Denmark and Estonia). Notice that this dragon is similar to the Revelation 12 sign dragon in the sky, but has 10 crowns for it's 10 horns instead of 7 crowns for its 7 heads. If the crowns were the same for each dragon, then the prophecy wouldn't match reality.
    Revelation 13: 1-2
    1 And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names. 2 And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority.
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    Muhammad Bin Salman is working on becoming the second beast, referred to as the false prophet, which comes out of the land with 2 horns that looks like a lamb and speaks like a dragon.
    Muhammad Bin Salman is in the Middle East, which is the land or holy land. The two horns are the two factions of Islam, Suni and Shia, and the beast looks like a lamb because it's a religious (Muslim) kingdom. The muslims are looking for a leader called the Mahdi (Bin Salman), which will fight along side their Jesus (Macron). The Mahdi must also be a descendant of the prophet Mohammad and carry his first name. He also has physical descriptions, in his 30's, wide frame but not fat, broad forehead, thin nose. These all match Bin Salman.
    Revelation 13: 11-12
    11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke as a dragon. 12 He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed.
    ------------------------#17
    This fits in the timeline.
    Jesus said that nobody knew the time or the hour, but when the branches of the fig tree become tender, then the end is near. He also said the generation wouldn't pass away by the time this all came to pass. The oldest person is generally between 110 and 120 years old, so all of this would have to complete within 110 or 120 years of when the beginning of the end would occur. The end couldn't occur until Israel became a country, which was in 1948. So the events would have to complete by about 2068. The Antichrist will be in power for 7 years, 3.5 years rising in power and 3.5 years ruling the world. Therefore this could begin no later that about 2061. Macron came into power in 2017 which fits into the time window.
    Matthew 24: 32-35
    32 “Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; 33 so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.
    ------------------------#18
    He won't regard the desire of women.
    The desire of women is to have a family and children. Macron said he doesn't want kids of his own. There are also rumors he's had affairs with a few men.
    Daniel 11:37
    37 He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.
    ------------------------#19
    Macron is an avid reader and likely knows the Bible what the Bible says about the end times.
    He was Baptized by his own choice at the age of 12. He could be using the end times as a guide of what he can do to rise to power. He also knows he must destroy America to get into power. Just like he took another man's wife, he needs to take the world from America's control.
    ------------------------#20
    This reporter followed Macron for a week and noticed his uniqueness traits in the article below. These include not breaking in swealtering heat, being able to look at someone and convince them to trust him, being able to recite perfect Greek, and playing both sides in a bid for a newspaper.
    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/oct/20/emmanuel-macron-orbiting-jupiter-emmanuel-carrere

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    America Destruction
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    ------------------------#1
    Daniel 8 talks about the ram (the kingdoms of Iraq and Iran) and the goat which comes from the west and covers the surface of the whole earth without touching the ground (the current western empire which contains Greece and is lead by the first or leading horn which is America). The goat destroys the shorter horn (Iraq) and then the longer horn (Iran). As soon as the longer horn is destroyed, the leading horn (America) is destroyed, and the empire is broken up into four parts, but not with the same power. This will cause the little horn or the Antichrist to grow exceedingly great towrads the south, east, and beautiful land. He will grow great towards the Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. He won't grow great towards North America if it no longer exists. This parallels the bear (Russia) having three ribs in it's mouth. When the bear destroys the eagle in one hour, the nuclear fallout could destroy Canada and Mexico.
    ------------------------#2
    This is also parallel to the fourth beast in Daniel which is described in the book of revelation. The beasts of Daniel are the lion (England) with eagles wings (United States) whose wings get plucked (the American Revolution in 1776), the bear (Russia) raised on one side (the cold war where Russia controls half of Europe) with three reibs that devours much flesh, the leopard (the Muslim Nations- leopards are found mostly in the Muslim nations and hide in their environment before attacking just like a lot of Muslim fighters do) with four wings and four heads that gets dominion, and the fourth dreadful beast. The fourth beast is described in Revelation as having the body of a leopard (big muslim population), feet of a bear (army backing of Russia), mouth of a lion (Europe which is ruled by Macron and controls England will be the mouth piece), and the dragon gives it power (China with it's high productivity). The eagle is destroyed and is missing in the final beast.
    Daniel 7: 3-8
    3 And four great beasts were coming up from the sea, different from one another. 4 The first was like a lion and had the wings of an eagle. I kept looking until its wings were plucked, and it was lifted up from the ground and made to stand on two feet like a man; a human [e]mind also was given to it. 5 And behold, another beast, a second one, resembling a bear. And it was raised up on one side, and three ribs were in its mouth between its teeth; and thus they said to it, ‘Arise, devour much meat!’ 6 After this I kept looking, and behold, another one, like a leopard, which had on its [f]back four wings of a bird; the beast also had four heads, and dominion was given to it. 7 After this I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong; and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns. 8 While I was contemplating the horns, behold, another horn, a little one, came up among them, and three of the first horns were pulled out by the roots before it; and behold, [g]this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth uttering great boasts.
    Revelation 13: 2
    2 And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority.
    ------------------------#3
    There is a nation called Mystery, Babylon the Great that rides the beast and burns in one hour because the ten horns want to give their power to the Antichrist. The nation is represented by a harlot that has a golden cup in her hand and stands on many waters. She is also clothed in scarlet (the color of Catholicism, which Protestntism branched off of) and so is the beast (Europe and the world) that she rides. When her destruction comes, the merchants that were made rich by selling her goods are frightened by her destruction and wonder who will buy their goods. The statue of liberty is modeled after the Babylonian goddess of sex Esther. She sits on water where many imigrants came in and spoke many tongues. America also rules over the world and makes other nations rich by buying their goods. If America were to go to war with Russia, Russia knows their only chance to win would be to use their nukes which Russia has been developing to counter America. Mystery Babylon is also famous for musicians, entertainers, fornication, and the killing of saints and prophets. Ever since America's involvement in the Middle East after 911, there have been millions of deaths, many of them innocent. America's actions helped create ISIS, and when ISIS started crucifying Christians, America didn't step in to help. 
    Revelation 17: 1-7
    17 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying, “Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality, and those who dwell on the earth were made drunk with the wine of her immorality.” 3 And he carried me away [a]in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious [c]stones and pearls, having in her hand a gold cup full of abominations and of the unclean things of her immorality, 5 and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” 6 And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the [d]saints, and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus. When I saw her, I wondered [e]greatly. 7 And the angel said to me, “Why [f]do you wonder? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns.
    Revelation 17: 8-14
    8 “The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and [g]go to destruction. And those who dwell on the earth, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will wonder when they see the beast, that he was and is not and will come. 9 Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, 10 and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. 11 The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction. 12 The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. 13 These have one [h]purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast.
    Revelation 17: 15-18
    15 And he *said to me, “The waters which you saw where the harlot sits, are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire. 17 For God has put it in their hearts to execute His purpose [j]by having a common purpose, and by giving their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God will be fulfilled. 18 The woman whom you saw is the great city, which [k]reigns over the kings of the earth.”
    Revelation 18: 2-8
    2 And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality.”
    4 I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues; 5 for her sins have [h]piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. 6 Pay her back even as she has paid, and give back to her double according to her deeds; in the cup which she has mixed, mix twice as much for her. 7 To the degree that she glorified herself and lived sensuously, to the same degree give her torment and mourning; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as a queen and I am not a widow, and will never see mourning.’ 8 For this reason in one day her plagues will come, pestilence and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for the Lord God who judges her is strong.
    Revelation 18: 11-20
    11 “And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their cargoes any more— 12 cargoes of gold and silver and precious [m]stones and pearls and fine linen and purple and silk and scarlet, and every kind of citron wood and every article of ivory and every article made from very costly wood and [n]bronze and iron and marble, 13 and cinnamon and [o]spice and incense and perfume and frankincense and wine and olive oil and fine flour and wheat and cattle and sheep, and cargoes of horses and chariots and [p]slaves and [q]human lives. 14 The fruit [r]you long for has gone from you, and all things that were luxurious and splendid have passed away from you and men will no longer find them. 15 The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, 16 saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was clothed in fine linen and purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious [t]stones and pearls; 17 for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!’ And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, 18 and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What city is like the great city?’ 19 And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her [v]wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!’ 20 Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you [w]saints and apostles and prophets, because God has [x]pronounced judgment for you against her.”
    Revelation 18: 22-24
    22 And the sound of harpists and musicians and flute-players and trumpeters will not be heard in you any longer; and no craftsman of any craft will be found in you any longer; and the sound of a mill will not be heard in you any longer; 23 and the light of a lamp will not shine in you any longer; and the voice of the bridegroom and bride will not be heard in you any longer; for your merchants were the great men of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of [z]saints and of all who have been slain on the earth.”
    ------------------------#4
    America has a mother, England. Babylon is also said to have a mother, which will be ashamed of her. America also came chronologically after the other nations and is therefore the hinder most of the nations.
    Jeremiah 50: 12
    "Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bare you shall be ashamed: behold, the hinder most of the nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert."
    ------------------------#5
    There's also two eclipses over America, one in 2017 and another in 2024 that instersect over the heart of the country in an X in an area called little Egypt. The time from Macron coming into power until the second eclipse is one more day that seven biblical years (a Biblical year is 360 days). The antichrist is said to rule seven years in the bible.
  16. Haha
    JayDubya reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Macron has been fulfilling all the prophecies of the Antichrist.   
    Don't worry about ANY of all that you mentioned.
    Just keep taking your medications, and stay away from microwave ovens.
    After April 8, 2024, when the second "Great American Eclipse occurs" you may be disappointed ...
     
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    JayDubya reacted to wii.all.4.raro in DO WE STILL DISFELLOWSHIP THE MENTALLY ILL ?   
    The issue of JWs mental illness is one we are ill equiped to support those with. Here they will say we're not qualified to discuss those issues with you. So you go to the worlds Psychiatrists and Psychologists who essentially narrow it down to a religion that has strong values can be damaging to its own people. So the Psychiatrists give you medication which numbs your mind and reduces your natural inhibitions, or impulse control, because the idea is that we've been taught to repress our thoughts and feelings that are wrong in a religious community. To keep shunning wrong thoughts and feelings is repression, which means repeatedly holding in our thoughts and feelings because of fear that it will offend others or God. So over time you learn to express these but and almost always shut down by the mentally well. They also get very disturbed and uncomfortable if you are not on medication, believing it to be a panacea, when all it really does is numb the patients mind and renders them unable to function. Having come off medication a number of times, I can say that I never feel happy when I am on meds. But now that a cycle of dependency has been cultivated by the system, one might be lucky if they get 18 months of happy times before they relapse. Having visited sites designed by former mental health workers who have seen the difficulty coming off meds, they slow process of coming off can take many years, because the brain has been rendered unable to provide its own balance. Meds were used to stabilise this implied imbalance, but meds also are the reason why people now get sick.
    Olanzapine has been linked to a rapid cell destruction in recent years, among other antipsychotics. But not taking them can be harmful too, our people are sick and with few paths if any to choose that don;t involve a continuing cycle of repression, sickness and medication adjustment. In the 90s, the brothers warned me from taking meds as they were "mind altering" they were wrong, but at the time the idea was my mind was already in an altered state, and the meds altered them back to "normal" whatever that is  I've often thought how much would I get if I sold my blood? Street value here for some of my meds is quite good lol! 
    Currently the bros want me to be working, maybe I should start a distribution service  With Drive Through!
     
     
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    JayDubya reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in DO WE STILL DISFELLOWSHIP THE MENTALLY ILL ?   
    DO  WE STILL  DISFELLOWSHIP  THE  MENTALLY  ILL ?
    I was a teenager in the 60's,  and I had a good friend that on Scout camping trips I introduced to the Truth, and I was there in NYC at Yankee Stadium when he was baptized as one of Jehovah's Witness. He was a true "straight arrow", and pioneered, always dressed immaculately, and eventually over the years became an Elder.
    One night, at an Elder's Meeting, he announced to the other Elders that he was Jesus Christ, and that his mother was the virgin Mary, and of course he was disfellowshipped.
    He spent several years in private mental institutions until his insurance money ran out, then in a State institution for several years.
    He called me up, and told me the story, and I told him I was the Great Turtleman, and every November, before I hibernated, I rose from the swamp and gave toys to all the good little boys and girls.  I was just pulling his leg, but he was dead serious.
    Later, he was in England, while his wife was trying without success to get him to take his medications, and fell over a balcony at Heathrow Airport and got killed.
    DO  WE STILL  DISFELLOWSHIP  THE  MENTALLY  ILL ?
     
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    JayDubya reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Saudis use U.S. bombs. U.S. targeting. U.S. mid air support to bomb a bus full of school children on a field trip   
    So ..... TALK!
    Your statement without explanation AND PROOF !,  is completely useless.
    Do try to keep it under 50 pages .....
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    JayDubya reacted to Queen Esther in How JW Elders Remove Apostates From Conventions   
    Very brave what our Brother did.... 
    A good example to our current  REG. CONVENTION'S  worldwide,
     *BE  COURAGEOUS* ?❤️ 
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    JayDubya reacted to Bible Speaks in I'VE FOUND THE "REAL" CALEB! ???   
    The "real Caleb" is at the Brazil Branch Office.
    ????

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    JayDubya reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Why do JWs have huge lunches / dinners after funerals?   
    Why do JWs have huge lunches / dinners after funerals?
    ...because they are really, really hungry?
  23. Upvote
    JayDubya reacted to JW Insider in Another Unrealistic Experience I'm Calling BullShit On....   
    Jack. I think you are trying to say that experience is bogus because it doesn't make complete sense to you. And it appears like a contradiction when we consider those famous persons who have been associated either as Witnesses or those who may have identified as JWs due to the influence of their Witness parents or family members.
    I understand the cynicism about some of the experiences. I have previously shared my own discomfort when I watched  a committee of brothers enhance the experiences of Witnesses who provided experiences for the special Bethel "Family Night" gatherings. It smacked of dishonesty to me, but there was always a grain of truth in what they were enhancing, and they were usually quite careful with the wording so that it was not technically or legally an untruth. But for "Family Night" I watched the committee edit the person's own story and his own recollections with facts not in evidence just to make it sound better, and it was clearly to enhance the reputation of the WTS, and to change something just slightly so that it would not detract from that same reputation. At Bethel, I had also learned how the resume of Fred Franz' educational background had been enhanced in ways that were never corrected until the Proclaimers book came out.
    But I don't know that this story in particular is enhanced. I see some potential problems, and a wise person will not simply believe everything he hears. I think the story might be perfectly true. "She was asked to take part in the Winter Olympics . . ." There is nothing unbelievable about this. Many very talented people have been on their way toward stardom and have given it up for religion or ideology or rethinking what it would mean to their life. But notice that no one is claiming that this person was invited to participate as an athlete to represent her country. It may have been that a coach wanted her there to watch. Perhaps, she showed promise as a skier, and it was a parent who asked her to go on to another few years of training to be able to take part in the Winter Olympics. This could be construed to create the statement that she was asked to take part.
    Or perhaps she had already trained, and was ready, and was considered a viable competitor, but was also completing her studies with the Witnesses and was preparing for baptism. A single statement from the person studying with her might have made her change her mind. The statement in the WT above may be perfectly legitimate and not enhanced at all. I'm sure you see this as a possibility, too, even if you disagree with the decision she made.
    There are non-JW experiences like this too. I remember hearing about a professional basketball player named Robinson, I think, whose mother told him he had to graduate a four-year college even though he had been asked to sign on professionally right after high school. He was offered a multi-million dollar contract, and had to give it up, and who knows what change of direction his life might have taken during that four years. He could have lost his contract, he probably cut four years of his earning potential away, but he did it for his mother, or for his agreement with her particular ideology about life and priorities. Others look at this and say B*S* because he could have played for 4 years, made millions and then gone to college if the basketball "gig" didn't work out, right? But younger people often don't know how to handle fame and money, and there are countless bodies of evidence, sometimes dead bodies, in support of this fact.
    On the other hand, what is the overall point of the experience? It's the same point that should be pointed out to any who wish for fame when there are other more important things that could bring potentially more satisfaction. There is also the drive for fame and money that many young people are not realistic about. They could end up spinning their wheels for a lifetime in pursuit of something that was not really attainable. Or even if it was attainable, it may be much more transitory than they realized.
    One of my daughter's good friends from high school was  a young model who was asked to work on a soap opera. She did this for two years, and did commercials, and photo layouts for fashion, and was on a billboard for years in the NY diamond district. But it only lasted for about 5 years. Although she can be proud of her work, she is today ... get this @James Thomas Rook Jr. . . .a shoe salesperson. Literally. She works in London selling Louboutin shoes, making good money, and she seems happy. Only her parents and siblings still push for her to try to get back into acting and modelling as if it were some pinnacle of achievement. (On a side note, my wife and I are in Paris right now, with my daughter, and we expect to see this same friend of hers next weekend.)
    What about being the ability to be both satisfied and happy with something different than fame or money? Something that is better for oneself and others in both the short run and the long run?
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    JayDubya reacted to Evacuated in Another Unrealistic Experience I'm Calling BullShit On....   
    Probaly best not to judge this achievement by personal lack of talent.
    I'm not quoting the expletives.  Use of these appears  to either express contempt for convention, which still considers this particular choice of wording as an unacceptable expression in normal speech, or it serves as an expression of frustration at a situation which exceeds  personal boundaries of acceptance along with  an exhaustion of resource to understand or even combat the issue that is faced. Probably is all of that. 
    Well, I have some sympathy here, it's never good to see someone at the end of their tether, but "twisted knicker syndrome" is all I can offer by way of commiseration.
    Serena and Venus Williams?  What's to explain? They are not Jehovah's Witnesses are they?  Prince? What's to explain? What is the relevant comparison to the euphamistic Mirjana? Wayans Brothers? Damon, I'm not sure but what is the point? Keneen and Shawn, are they Jehovah's Witnesses? I don't really know what the rest of the family do. Selena? Is this the singer that was murdered by a criminal employee, Selena Quintanilla-Pérez. What did she do? Not a Jehovah's Witnesses was she? Coca Rocha? Now she is interesting. What has she done wrong? She is famous and rich I agree. Wait a minute, is that what's wrong with her? Surely we  are not looking at jealousy here? Maybe a desire  to be famous and rich but someone getting in the way could root some people's criticism here?  
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    JayDubya got a reaction from Queen Esther in Theocratic Condiments?   
    Omg.  
    I don’t think this is what Jehovah meant when he said, ‘my name will become known’.  
    I think sometimes we’re forgetting just how holy his name is.  
    ‘Catch up with Jehovah’ though?   See... A modern day Moses would go off.  “I give you hotdogs and this is what you do!” LoL. ??‍♀️
    Oh Jehovah, we’re really a mess.  As a people...we need a rescuer forreal, but you already knew.  You already saw it coming.  ??‍♀️
    Now I’ll never look at ‘catch up’ the same.  
    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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