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People confuses hate with wanting justice 4jah2me.
I don't personally hate JWs, I was one a few months ago and I still like them but I do hate watchtower policies and lies and unfortunately some people confuses that hate and think we hate JWs.
Like we used to say to the public about gay people, we don't hate gay people we hate their acts, the same goes for JWs, we don't hate them we hate JW's organisation and their horrible man made policies.
I still love Jehovah and Jesus and I am sure many still do.

You totally misuse the hate of Child Sexual Abuse within the JW Org, to pretend it is religious persecution.  And this is a JW website, hence i don't wish to talk about Catholics, Muslims et al. 
And once again you compare the GB and the Org to the wicked world outside. Why ? We all know and we all expect, Satan's wicked world to do wicked things. BUT you pretend that the JW Org is so clean and a safe place to be in. Some of us are proving you wrong. 

Lol JWs single out... 🤣🤣🤣 
Maybe all those Catholic Cardinals in Australia and 1 in particular the Top Australian Catholic member in Australia that fled to the Vatican and the Jewish teacher that fled as well and now brought back to Australia and convicted and in jail because of child sex abuse...
The Australian Royal Commission was not only for the JWs, they had one for the Catholics and hill song organisation and the salvation army and many other institutions.
And people still think that JWs are single out 😆😆😆
Atrocious to say JWs are single out. 
 
 

Rev 7:17 for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs of the [d]water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes.”
 
Nope
Matt 18: 20 For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst.”
 
Why the insistence on no beards? Not reporting CSA? The constant hounding for money? Judicial committees for reading unapproved material? Not getting enough hours? Not showing up to EVERY meeting? Suits and ties? No celebration of birthdays? Making sure you don't send your kids to college? The hospital liaison group, I mean if this isn't a watchdog I don't know what is! Constantly they are there to make sure you don't take blood. If it is free will, why are they there? 

This remind me on something. Each person who are able to recognize, to see holy spirit manifestation in other person (words and deeds) also need to have that same spirit. Or opposite spirit perhaps :))
Illustration: If i speak German i can recognize and understand all people who speaking German. If i don't speak German i can make guess how some language is German but will not be able to understand what German people saying. 
It is possible to make conclusion that GB is under influence of particular spirit, if you are under same spirit influence, too. 
But if you are under influence of other spirit you will see difference, too. 
 

I do too Arauna, I do too, when more and more countries look into the CSA and see that the policies of the wt are flawed when it comes to protecting children. 

I get exactly what you mean, kinda like these? 
"Families are free to report abuse to the authorities" 
"leave it in Jehova's hands"
"click on jw.orb"
"the answers are on the website"
"That's for Jehova to decide" 
"we don't shun former members" 
"we only had the library card"
 
 
 
 

I get exactly what you mean, kinda like these? 
"Families are free to report abuse to the authorities" 
"leave it in Jehova's hands"
"click on jw.orb"
"the answers are on the website"
"That's for Jehova to decide" 
"we don't shun former members" 
"we only had the library card"
 
 
 
 

I get exactly what you mean, kinda like these? 
"Families are free to report abuse to the authorities" 
"leave it in Jehova's hands"
"click on jw.orb"
"the answers are on the website"
"That's for Jehova to decide" 
"we don't shun former members" 
"we only had the library card"
 
 
 
 

There you go with those pesky assumptions again.  I know this is what you are fed by those in power above you. "All who disagree with what the wt says, must be full of hate and malice towards jws. " It is the classic mantra of those who want to keep you under control.
"Do not look behind the curtain!" - the great Oz. 
I'll tell you what Arauna, if I were here to spread hate, there would be plenty more of it. The fact of the matter is that you and I are very similar, we both want to open each others eyes. 
That's just not true. 
I believe that the majority of people are very much capable, but give their reasoning over to others to decide for them, its easier that way for some.  

There you go with those pesky assumptions again.  I know this is what you are fed by those in power above you. "All who disagree with what the wt says, must be full of hate and malice towards jws. " It is the classic mantra of those who want to keep you under control.
"Do not look behind the curtain!" - the great Oz. 
I'll tell you what Arauna, if I were here to spread hate, there would be plenty more of it. The fact of the matter is that you and I are very similar, we both want to open each others eyes. 
That's just not true. 
I believe that the majority of people are very much capable, but give their reasoning over to others to decide for them, its easier that way for some.  

You seem to be indicating that I don’t think there are “true”, authentic anointed in the organization.  Have I ever said that, or have I repeatedly drawn attention to their existence among JWs?  Unless….you are referring only to the GB as “true” anointed and disregard all other anointed, which wouldn’t surprise me. 
I do believe the GB were anointed, but they have lost any Holy Spirit they had once received.  THEY now direct their false priesthood to carry out “covert extremism” to shun those who will not accept their tainted version of “truth”.  As my comment brought out, it is they who should be shunned. 
It is very sad that you joke about God’s word and the man who spoke them.
 
 

there really shouldn't be, especially if you read the whole sentence I wrote. Here, I'll save you the time from searching for it:
I find jw's foolish because they follow the ideas of men, which changes to suit those in the power tower. 
lol,   we......lol

there really shouldn't be, especially if you read the whole sentence I wrote. Here, I'll save you the time from searching for it:
I find jw's foolish because they follow the ideas of men, which changes to suit those in the power tower. 
lol,   we......lol

Dear @Arauna , nothing in my comments are written because of hate. Just try to openly discussing about religious practice and reasons for such beliefs and practice. 

I tend to think on things as being the tip of an iceberg  
And to be boring, this brings us back to that Database they are withholding.  Oh what wonderful information must be in that 20 + year Database. 

That's only about 17% of the Governing Body being homosexual or homosexual child molesters.
I remember a survey the Catholic Church did about 35 years ago, (about the same time period ...) and  among catholic clergy, 20%  were homosexuals (no age preference was stated), 20% were sexually active heterosexuals (no age preference was stated), and 60% were celibate.  My memory may be faulty, as my brain is made mostly of old fat, and I fear the sound of frying bacon.
This proves we are FAR superior to them, and can exult in our smugness.
Of course, that does not count any clergy (which we have repeatedly claimed to be in numerous court cases, demanding clergy-penitent privilege ...) that WE have, below the level of GB.
But then again, since we are all considered Ordained Ministers, that makes our pool over 8 million clergy, even the baptized six year olds.
See?
It all depends on, like President Bill Clinton said during the "Monica Lewinsky" years, "It all depends on what your definition of "is", is."

I find jw's foolish because they follow the ideas of men, which changes to suit those in the power tower. 
 
again, you have NO evidence of anything those people, who were there with their signs, did anything you think they did. You also don't have any evidence of what anyone who is df'd has done. What is said from the platform doesn't make it true. 
 
You are playing judge, jury and executioner based on what the octo-pope says to the DO/CO/BOE. .
none of us have, it is the nature of humans. We are only to treat others the way Jesus did. Sometimes our human nature gets in the way, that is why we have forgiveness in the sacrifice and acceptance of what Jesus did for us, all of us.  

unsubstantiated and pure speculation. 
 
I did not commission them, nor did I even know their agenda. After seeing what they were actually speaking out against, I do support them and agree that the jw practice of shunning is very un-christian. Those jw's who do shun, do so based on assumption of what they think the person has done. This is evident by the posts here by yourself and Arauna.

Quote @TrueTomHarley Today Witness parents are encouraged to take an active role in their offspring's future plans so that they will be able to support themselves decently. 
Yes, so was that actually true about 'not letting them have a driving licence if they don't get baptised' ? 
 

Especially in the JW community.

It would be wrong of me to tell you what i really think of you, but I'll just say you have a completely warped sense of reality.   VICITMS of  child sexual abuse were THROWN OUT OF THE JW ORG  and then shunned. 
You are totally brainwashed by your GB and it's ORG.
Can you honestly give me a quantity / number, of ex-JWs  that you had known personally, that left the JW Org, and can you give proof of them going on to take drugs, immoral sex, smoking et al ? 
But then you'd probably go on to tell lies just as JW's do. 
By what you have written above, it is you that is 'spreading false info' about others.
At least oposers have some proof of what they say about : Child Sexual Abuse, Lies told in courts, False teachings and false predictions, teachings of men taught as doctrines, etc.... 
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Well it looks as if the GB's lawyers have learnt 'the wisdom of this world' by the way they tell lies in courts. And your GB must have learnt the 'wisdom of this world' when they go on about tight pants and masturbation, and accuse people of opposite sex of having committed fornication when there is no proof of it. 
And as for the 'empty speeches' and 'false knowledge', um, we don't have to look too far back in history of the Bible Students and Watchtower / JW Org. Yes your GB have definitely deviated from the faith. 

@Arauna  you must really have OCD about sex. 
Quote " The signs read: "love does not shun".   True, the liove of this world with its "practices" of fornication, LGBT does not shun. " 
The sign is about emotional family love, nothing to do with immorality. 
Reminds me of those on here taking about 'tight pants tony'...  You JW's seem to have relate everything to sex or to this rotten world that belongs to the devil. 

Yes. Let's draw a huge amount of attention to that which we don't want you to pay attention to. And let's do it in the most creepy, culty, and weird way as possible, because we can't take criticism and we just don't know how to handle it.
Like the old saying goes... If your beliefs can't stand up to scrutiny, then scrutiny isn't the problem. This barricade makes it crystal clear, loud and clear, that their beliefs can't stand up to scrutiny.
Imagine doing this same thing to them at their cart witnessing and how they would feel?
They would call us inspired by the devil, mentally diseased etc.....
Video of this kind of behavior could be interesting to governments that offer tax breaks, etc.

On topic. I have honestly known JW's that will not have a proper cooked dinned on Christmas day, as it looks like a Christmas dinner.
'For fear of stumbling others'.  They just have a salad or soup or some other small meal. 
I remember when working with some brothers years ago (they were builders) and i took a box of mince pies for lunch. Not one of those brothers would eat a mince pie  It was soooooooooo funny.
When i think of what wicked things go on in the JW org, and then some JW's worry about christmas day dinner and mince pies. Where is the common sense ?  Where is the sense of balance ?