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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    Yes, but she can quote scripture without application by the wheelbarrowfull
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    It’s a symbiotic relationship. He is looking for a True Anointed. She is clear that she is one.
    Buy another one. They built a lot of them, you know. Or rent.
    Find another one. 
    It is pathetic so see a so-called anointed woman of faith who excoriates her spiritual betters to be so clingy about the prizes of this world as though they are life itself. 
    People lose houses and jobs for all sorts of reasons—to care for an aging family member, for example. They don’t cry about it for the rest of their lives. It was 45 years ago. They adjust and move on.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Emma Rose in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    Yes, but she can quote scripture without application by the wheelbarrowfull
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from César Chávez in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    I’m not sure what you mean by clear. As stated, I was baptized in 73 and I thought it very possible, even likely, that the end would come in 75. But as the year dragged on and there was no end I do not recall any sense of letdown (let alone betrayal). “Oh, well, I guess it comes later,” I said. 
    It might have been different had I sold a house or made major changes. But then again, life throws stuff at us all the time. You suck it up and carry on. As to the “offending” brother, did he even have a house to sell at any time in his life? People do their best and sometimes are wrong. 
    “Sign here, kid—I’m gonna make you a star!”
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Emma Rose in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    I sing this all the time.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Emma Rose in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    It’s a symbiotic relationship. He is looking for a True Anointed. She is clear that she is one.
    Buy another one. They built a lot of them, you know. Or rent.
    Find another one. 
    It is pathetic so see a so-called anointed woman of faith who excoriates her spiritual betters to be so clingy about the prizes of this world as though they are life itself. 
    People lose houses and jobs for all sorts of reasons—to care for an aging family member, for example. They don’t cry about it for the rest of their lives. It was 45 years ago. They adjust and move on.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in Akua Donkor and Jehovah's Witnesses   
    and yet the people who directly voted AGAINST  her—I wonder if she sacks all of them.
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Isabella in TAJIKISTAN: Conscientious objector freed, but another jailed   
    Rustamjon Norov, a 22-year-old Jehovah's Witness from the capital Dushanbe, is being held in the northern city of Khujand awaiting trial to punish him for refusing military service on grounds of conscience. No trial date has yet been set. Prosecutors accuse him of falsifying his medical history to evade military service, charges he denies. He had offered to perform an alternative civilian service, but Tajikistan does not offer this. He faces two to five years' imprisonment if convicted.
     
    The Assistant to Saidali Rakhmanzoda Chair of the Supreme Court's Military Collegium, refused to comment on its rejection of Nurov's appeal against pre-trial detention. He also refused to put Forum 18 through on 5 November to the Chair or the Judges who made the decision. He referred it to the international section of the Supreme Court (see below).

    Asked why Tajikistan still has no alternative to compulsory military service and why the authorities continue punishing conscientious objectors, Khaydar Kadyrov, Chief of the Supreme Court's international section, replied: "I cannot comment on these questions because they are political. Our section is not competent to answer such questions" (see below).

    The prosecution of Norov comes as another jailed conscientious objector, fellow Jehovah's Witness Jovidon Bobojonov, was freed on 1 November under a presidential prisoner amnesty. He had served nine months of a two-year prison term. His sentence was deemed to run from January 2020, even though he had been in army detention from October 2019, during which time he was tortured. That torture remains unpunished (see below).

    Shodigul Moyonshoyeva, the responsible official for complaints from citizens at the General Prosecutor's Office in Dushanbe, declined to say why complaints about Bobojonov's torture were not investigated and why the responsible military officials have not been put on trial. "Sorry we are in the midst of disinfection works because of the pandemic," she told Forum 18 (see below).

    Military service of two years is compulsory for almost all able-bodied young men between the ages of 16 and 27 (see below).

    Jehovah's Witnesses are conscientious objectors to military service and their beliefs do not allow them to undertake any kind of activity supporting any country's military. But they are willing to undertake an alternative, totally civilian form of service, as is the right of all conscientious objectors to military service under international human rights law.

    In defiance of its international human rights obligations, and despite repeated requests from the United Nations (UN) Human Rights Committee and UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention, Tajikistan has not introduced a possibility for a genuinely civilian alternative service to the military conscription imposed on young men (see below).
    http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2615
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in UN investigator: Rights of minorities to worship undermined   
    I, too, heard the Jaws music playing.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in 'Peace and Security'   
    This is the second time I have said something derogatory about you but have left you unnamed so as to spare you embarrassment (“crying about it for their next five posts”). Each time you say: “Me! It’s me you’re talking about!” Sheesh.
    Maybe he will have to go through a little purgatory first.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in 'Peace and Security'   
    He is actually the only person on this forum that I have ever seen change significantly. This he did only at the end, and so who can say how enduring it will be? But even at his most outrageous, I did come to respect him in that if I hit him over the head with a baseball bat he would strive to give as good as he got without complaint. There have been some here that if I so much as step on their toes they cry about it for their next 5 posts.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in 'Peace and Security'   
    It does sound that way, doesn’t it?
    Nah, he reappraised what he had been doing and discontinued his posts here with this final goodbye:
    I miss the old pork chop. I hope he succeeds in turning over that new leaf. He even got 8 likes—more than I have ever registered.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in 'Peace and Security'   
    He is actually the only person on this forum that I have ever seen change significantly. This he did only at the end, and so who can say how enduring it will be? But even at his most outrageous, I did come to respect him in that if I hit him over the head with a baseball bat he would strive to give as good as he got without complaint. There have been some here that if I so much as step on their toes they cry about it for their next 5 posts.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in Thought for the day- walking in the name of Jehovah   
    Sorry, I was just clearing my throat. No. I’m not the owner. It’s sort of an inside joke.
    Some of the more paranoid participants here (have you noticed not everyone plays with a full deck?) began asserting that I was the owner (along with JWI) and that from time to time I would delete persons. 
    It did no good to deny it. They would just insist upon it all the more. So I reversed course and took ownership instead.
    @adminowns the site. Several years ago @The Librarian(that old hen), who had been running a separate JW site, combined forces with him. Just digital, you understand, they may not even know each other. As far as i know, Admin is not a JW and the Librarian is. I think the latter will not disagree if I say that his philosophy, akin to that of the Washington Post, is that: ‘theocracy dies in darkness.’  Hence, the variety of characters here, some the type of people that AM3 was referring to.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Thought for the day- walking in the name of Jehovah   
    Sorry, I was just clearing my throat. No. I’m not the owner. It’s sort of an inside joke.
    Some of the more paranoid participants here (have you noticed not everyone plays with a full deck?) began asserting that I was the owner (along with JWI) and that from time to time I would delete persons. 
    It did no good to deny it. They would just insist upon it all the more. So I reversed course and took ownership instead.
    @adminowns the site. Several years ago @The Librarian(that old hen), who had been running a separate JW site, combined forces with him. Just digital, you understand, they may not even know each other. As far as i know, Admin is not a JW and the Librarian is. I think the latter will not disagree if I say that his philosophy, akin to that of the Washington Post, is that: ‘theocracy dies in darkness.’  Hence, the variety of characters here, some the type of people that AM3 was referring to.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in Thought for the day- walking in the name of Jehovah   
    Ahem
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in Water has been definitively found on the Moon, Nasa has said   
    Angel on the right shoulder: “Don’t say it, TrueTom. Just don’t. Everyone has heard it a million times. Haven’t you embarrassed yourself enough?”
    Devil on the left shoulder: “Go for it, TrueTom. They’ll fall over themselves laughing and they’ll think you SO witty. Think of the great NAME you’ll be making for yourself!”
    Yes, but so far no one has answered the question: “What is H2O 4?”
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in Water has been definitively found on the Moon, Nasa has said   
    Angel on the right shoulder: “Don’t say it, TrueTom. Just don’t. Everyone has heard it a million times. Haven’t you embarrassed yourself enough?”
    Devil on the left shoulder: “Go for it, TrueTom. They’ll fall over themselves laughing and they’ll think you SO witty. Think of the great NAME you’ll be making for yourself!”
    Yes, but so far no one has answered the question: “What is H2O 4?”
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to JW Insider in Scrabble Game Test   
    True. That's one of the most exquizit moves in Scrabble.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    In a previous incarnation, Cesar told me: “You keep out of my way and I’ll keep out of yours.”
    That works well enough. Look—it’s the internet, not the congregation. There’s only so much one can do in coming together. You can’t even be sure that people are who they say they are.  It is enough that he settles on the side that is right, even if he does take a flamethrower to not just enemies, but even ones who would call themselves allies, though less rigid.
    And as long as I’m at it, how about this one on Why Jehovah’s Witnesses do not respond to accusations:
    https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/respond-to-accusations/
    Don’t misunderstand. This is not a reproof to anyone. Or if it is, it is mostly to me. Probably I should mull over it more. But as Anna said, each one has his/her own specific reason for being here. It is safe to say that NO Witness here is typical, excepting only those who come, stick their toe in the water, make a comment or two, and then disappear, never to be seen again.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in Non-JW's Will Also Live in Paradise   
    I think most have some sense that not everything dovetails, and they dismiss it with: “Is not the judge of the entire earth going to do what is right?’
    If the circuit of Israel will not be covered before the end comes, plainly some will not be covered as thoroughly as we would like. Maybe there is a thought that God will prove a “soft touch” at the very end, observing, like he did to Jonah, that “ought I not feel sorry for these dumb animals, who don’t know their right from their left?” Maybe persons like you speak of will go down in the End crossfire and promptly rise in the resurrection.
    Why doesn’t the org say this? They’re not authorized. ‘One faith, one Lord, one baptism’ is the line they must stick to. Besides, start speculating on how God will cover all bases anyway, and how can it not be a disincentive to preach, as Christians are supposed to be doing?
     
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Emma Rose in Thought for the day- walking in the name of Jehovah   
    Jehovah will have His message preached to the extent He has foretold, there may be ways that reach those that have yet to hear, that we are unaware of.  Who would have thought, as recently as last year, that we'd be carrying out that preaching work using electronic means.
    It is not outside of the realms of possibility to consider Jehovah able to 'know' how a person 'would' react had they heard the good news.  That's not what I'm saying will happen, I'm simply saying all things are possible with God, and some of those things may fall within the following scripture:  Isaiah 55:9 - "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So my ways are higher than your ways And my thoughts than your thoughts"
    That is what faith and knowing Jehovah results in, absolute conviction that what He has said He will do, His way.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Thought for the day- walking in the name of Jehovah   
    My favorite is one of those Hollywood blockbusters of decades past—I think ‘The Ten Commandments.’ 
    Early on the distressed Israelites complain that they don’t even know their God’s name.
    Later on they are as happy as pigs in mud. They have learned it. It is ‘The LORD.’
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Thought for the day- walking in the name of Jehovah   
    I had my own experience of 30 years ago recounted to me by the one who was my companion at the time:
    During one of the early pioneer schools, testing out what we had learned, we had been paired together. Upon my ringing the bell, the householder asked: “Are you Jehovah?”
    ”Oh, no,” I modestly replied. “I would never presume to call myself by the name of the Most High God. I am but a lowly servant of his, trying in my own imperfect way to serve him.” Thirty years later I ran across that companion again and she recounted how every time she reviewed it in her head, she was so impressed at my abject humility.
    It never happened! She had reworked it in her head. Never trust urban legends.
    What I had said when the good-natured woman asked “Are you Jehovah?,“ through the screen door, from the far-removed kitchen, for she was distracted in cooking, was: “Well—no, actually, I am not.” Whereupon she realized just what she had absent-mindedly said, and laughed uproariously at the joke. 
    We did end up having a pretty good discussion, and maybe it is from that circumstance that my companion elevated me to near sainthood. I’m not really all that deserving of it.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Escaped the clutches of Cesar, did you?
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