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@James Thomas Rook Jr. This thing is going to the be like a thorn to the said to many. Only Christians who are for the E.I.I an the Kairos Movement are supporting an funding this, even going as far as to take money from other Christians who do not want to have any part in this. This all points back to the agenda, to push people into a society that is kept on a tight leash. Christians and Truthers alike speak on this matter and it all leads to the Globalist Mafia who has their hands on everything, the schools that side with them, the churches that accepts them just like October 2017's Reformation, the Kairos Movement and a list of others. If anyone is going to be forced, they'll start with the children. After all, they already are grooming our children in brazen and sexual conduct that spreads like a virus in this culture,mainly the US.

He gets his information from Pearl Doxsey, a person of whom has been mention several times in some Christian discussions and debate elsewhere. This is the same person who puts forth of what is accursed that is a direct opposite regarding God's Order, and what Orderly Worship entails. This is the same one has led ones to have no idea who the Assyrians were who tried to confront Hezekiah and the same info pulled from her which led so and so to believe God sent Satan to attack the Egyptians, which is ridiculous and unfounded in the Old Testament, as well as adhere to a doctrine that does not originate with the church. It is one thing to not agree with someone, that is for certain, but to proclaim teachings and doctrines that has nothing to do with the church Jesus built is another story and such ones need to be corrected in this sense. Pearl Doxsey is on the same stage as such ones like Jay Smith and David Wood to name a few.

@Kosonen First, know this - RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian Government. This is the same RT News that prompted Jasyish Al-Islam and the White Hats as Heroes in the political theater. And everyone knows immediately as to how Russian MSM is controlled by the Kremlin and they thrive off of what the State Duma has done, with proof to back it up by even that of independent sources, and Russia has already aligned itself with China, Syria, Iran and several others. This information about such ones being micro-chipped isn't unknown to anyone and I know JWs know this already because the RFID chips have been ongoing since 2009 (can even be traced further back granted on how such technology is developed), it has became widely known around 2016-2017 and was brought about employees of companies who do not which to take up bio-metric cards and or authentication IDs, but instead, these RFID chips. Moreover, years ago, in 2009, British Scientist Dr Mark Gasson got an RFID implanted into his left hand, so the idea and concept has always been a thing at the time and granted that some find this revolutionary, it is easily spread to the public so that they would know. It is not about worshiping the beast or not. It is about allowing oneself to join and or refuse what, as some would say, the NWO is doing. As it is already, they are pushing people out of their homes into smart homes, as if the recent fires in California has taught us anything. What is being done with foods, what is being done with our children education-wise, what is being done to our society and so forth. If you read 1984 George Orwell, you'd realize we are entering an Orwellian time of atmosphere, monitored and watched, even controlled, on the other side of the spectrum, the government seeks to take weapons from people so they remain defenseless, as if the situation with Syranic Christians has taught us anything. It will come to a point where being RFID'd can be forced, even among children, to where they can trick parents and or guardians that it is safe for their kids and can help track them should anything happens to them an so forth. Granted with how much I know in regards to the Global Mafia, the NWO, Lucis Trust, 2021/2030, etc. Stuff like this has always been on my mind and given thought. As for all those who are like me who knows this stuff, they can speak of the same way. Reasons why there is some technology that cannot be trusted, and of course you know of the recent one that is taking up the world by storm, which, in of itself is a component to RFID chips, but the difference is, one monitors you and your speech. And yet the masses have already given themselves up as they have done in regards to those who seek conquest for peace. This is why I had stated before of how easily people will throw themselves into the hands of the Wilde Beast, and align themselves with Babylon the Great. Anyone who is against them, will be targets, persecuted, even succumb to actions taken by them so that they are banished and or banned from an area or place of dwelling, perhaps even arrested and or killed. As they say it, if we are not for them, we are against them. It has already started long time ago. This is why such ones like yourself needs to be aware. This is in conjunction with bans, censoring, monitoring visual/speech, educating or mind washing of the children and or the society, disarming, even murder those not for them (Serena Shim, Klaus Ebrewien, Las Vegas Shooting survivors, etc) and the list goes on. Therefore, flags should be the least of your concern. That being said, if you are not vigilant, you too can easily be swept away without knowing it yourself, as I had proclaimed about for years and even to others, with some of them who pass this off as a bluff and or attest that they will not turn - such ones had already turned without them knowing and they themselves become an enemy to you and or anyone associated with you. There is even more things in this regard, but I am keeping it PG here on this forum, some things that can be said or on display such ones like yourself may not be able to handle. Also it should be known to what the mark of the beast actually is. This RFID chip is only put a branch to the tree itself.

You sure about that? Granted when it is evident of what someone likes in agreement to something and or dislikes something, favors something and or continues such as an absolute, not to mention evident and yet subtle response to said response. Example how you stated, even mocked that of could abuse and neglected services itself whereas you made claim as if it was pulled from books from JWs, when that information was pulled directly from a site that carters to educating people about abuse. As for the Bible, I merely took up verses of Wisdom and Knowledge to be in application to people, in turn even children - granted that in Jesus' childhood days, knowledge and wisdom was very important, likewise, it should be important for us also. That being said, he is correct and I made this remark also, thus it being correct. You cannot shift something that has already existed and even having it's own definition, and in that definition it even states (in an online context) to register an approval of or agreement with (a post or poster) by means of a particular icon - that solidifies the claim of agreeing with someone or not, with or without a response. The same goes with an expression of gratitude as with liking what is said. As for us CSE folk, the difference is over there compared to here is that you gain a reputation the more someone agrees with you, the more reputation you gain. In this sense, you agree with anything that is spoken of, and this isn't the first time. Remember, Biblical Facts? I do.The number of times you agree with what is not true is rather telling, as with other discussions, moreover, you even agreed to the claim I am somehow misogynistic against women just for a typo error, I asked for proof that day too, yet no one deliver, thus people love to make claims they cannot cash. The young one claims that he knows you and or has ran into you before (granted it seems you are everywhere and not just this forum i.e. of how I found out about Glasgow your comments were elsewhere too), hence referring to you as Frida. Perhaps someone or something associated with you in your life.

This guy? Tis but a scratch.

Well one thing for certain, you can start with this. If you are caught with any Bible or anything bible related, punishment and consequence will follow in the most marshal-law like fashion, coupled with a couple of Duterte sprinkles. You'd have to do how people did things back in the day pretty much. Civilian locations will be targeted first, then outer areas.

Yes, but in this case, especially in what is taking place in Speaker's Corner, you have those who attest to a false doctrine trying to take up and cover more ground to teach something that is not of the church. Examples would be that God has wives one of his wives being Mary, and they'll preach it. God is 3 persons, they'll preach it. You debate with them, and correct them, and they will attack you, even insult you when you profess the truth. Speaking about apostates, one of them professed he can heal people with the touch of his hand on to you, Benny Hinn style. Such ones need to be put in their place and be corrected on what the Bible says. That being said, this place I still see it as Controversial Posts (being ready to be pit to the test), and as did before in a discussion of religious history, it shall be done here also. Most importantly a truth will be spoken and it will be told. In this sense however, people are claiming to have apples and such ones believe said people, but when I ask for apples, it turns out, they didn't have any apples at all, to my surprise, I lecture them on as to why they made such an error in claiming to have these apples that are, in their case, non-existent.

Irreligion. The inverted Cross. To be brief, it means a lot of things in which may be a bit too much to explain. The only example I can give is the Satanist in Detroit a while back who were representing the inverted cross - in black mind you. One of my sources, Solider of God made mention of this a while back and I believe I had posted it sometime ago. After all, The Temple's Baphomet statue was unveiled there in Detroit some years ago. But yes, you'd be surprise of how dark things can go.

@James Thomas Rook Jr. I don't think they would kill you on the spot. Death without punishment and such will not make the weekend or for the Romans or top the icing on the cake for them. They need to torture someone first before they send them off to be buried in Sheol. If they had to take some out instantly it most likely would be during a raid or confrontation in war. I mean, they will let people go at each other, fight each other event before they even make a move, for they were that tough in the days they had power.

Nowhere have I shown total support for Islam, therefore John Butler's claim is as empty as a cookie jar in a Kinder Care facility, it is always empty and forever will be empty because he made the conclusion on empty facts of which he cannot even prove when he himself stated it. It was regarding a thread of which I explained Islam to him and the belief of Muslims, I understand Muslims because I have tried to teach them the bible before. Plus young ones I speak to some of them are Muslims, and I do not go around bashing them or speaking of conspiracy, I come to common ground with them to speak of what God will soon do, just as a Jew to a Samaritan, a Christian to a Muslim. We should be preaching the gospel, for this is what the bible says, to all people, to all nations, but somehow Mr. Butler cannot see that. That being said, the man things explaining something and exposing falsehood and bringing forth truth is supporting. Therefore that statement alone on his part is very, very weak. And yes, he has shown himself to agree with the others hence his own word and his own reactions to them. But hey, I am not someone who is a fan of a guy who believes God's Order should be changed, believes God sent Satan to do his bidding, believes in humans not being humans but of something else which is in opposition of the church, as well as the other guy who thinks of God's Friend as a selfish lair, and adheres to the being acceptive of something that God is clearly against, as seen in the Bible regarding Lot and what he had endured. It is Kathgar. He is an British-Pankistani Jehovah's Witness who tends to refute people in connection with debates and other things regarding Speaker's Corner, of course he does it online, but is very reserved to himself and those of his circle. Ironically enough, he does not take kindly to people who uses the bible to profess Trinitarianism and Gnosticism, granted that he, as do others, are in constant debate with the opposing groups who profess a doctrine that is not of the Bible or of the Church. I debated against Kathgar only once (plus at the time I was unprepared of what went down that day and I had made mistakes in confusing things that I lacked in during that time), an the reason for it was due to a Agnostic, who was clearly struggling who tried to divert the debate on to someone else, only at the end, he came back to bite him. The irony is, this only open a door to learn about the more complex things in Christianity and the Bible so I can better understand things, such as questions that are posed that seem difficult and or complex, but in truth, are ridiculously easy to answer, some questions that I can answer another Christian may not even try to answer, especially Trintiarians, for such ones would be quick to denounce a prophet or someone of the Bible int his regard without understand that the answer is in plain site. I can tell you this, you have to be very very spiritual strong to debate and or discuss matters because there will be a chance for some people who had to defend the truth of the Scriptures. and know that truth always prevail. opposers will speak of you as one who runs or flees, they will skip to insult and mock you for speaking what is true, but know this, the one who speaks truth is the real winner and the one who mocks and insults are the losers. If the other person ends up attacking you, you are actually winning the debate. When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

Good, so when there is a conclusion we know who is in the correct. I merely explained them hence the the thread I linked. If I agreed with them why in the world would I attest to the idea of preaching to them by means of going on their level due to a common interest in God. Like us, they are seeking, so it does not stop a Christian to preach the gospel to Muslims who may or may not understand the Bible and teach them the Bible, let alone putting out some misconceptions they have of Christians due to Trinitarianism. The hypocrisy on your part, Mr. Butler, is the fact you agreed with me on this notion when I explained their views to you without resorting to accepting conspiracy and falsehood as you have, and I was brief about it also - as seen in this thread, of which I will link again, of which you are ignoring in my previous response: And I made it clear, I do not adhere to false information and or conspiracy. So according to your claim Mr. Butler Do you or do you not have any substantial proof I am supporting Islam when I simply explained their belief to you? Perhaps if I explained what convict is, in your eyes you see that an explanation of something or someone is seen as supporting. That being said, I ask you something very simple of which you seem to be evading - Show me as to where I am supporting Islam (in fact show everyone since you made claim to this). If you cannot, you have just exposed yourself to be a lair in this sense and that this claim remains absurdly unfounded in the greatest sense. anyone who studies religion does will speak what is true and what is false about someone's faith, they will also take up knowledge so they themselves can see what is actually accursed. The statement I made to you about the evident ignorance on your part in regards to Theological studies stand as true as the blue seas of the earth. Indeed there is no middle ground. There is no middle ground in what is True and what is False. So according to your own statement, do you have the truth in regards to information that I am supporting Islam? So far I have only explained it, even to some degree on here I made mention of Sunnis and Shias and nothing in this regard shows I am supporting Islam, merely explaining something and or making a point in something. So, to everyone here, to me - Do you have proof to your claim? After all, we are attesting to the truth - yes? I, and I am sure others too, also want to know how on earth you can discern who has God's approval and who does not? I find this fascinating because you are clearly an imperfect man who cannot think for God when the bible says the opposite, let alone you are not above and or equal to God, for if it is of anyone concern, we are like spectacles of dust compared to the the Most High, El Shaddai, Yahweh. No one is blaming you. Pointing out the fact that you were agreed with Witness by the very word he professed, not only you shown your reaction to what he had to say despite not taking into account what he claims is false, you also spared no time but to even congratulate him on his response, when you yourself And agreed with him, not once, but twice in this sense, therefore, if you agree with someone on something, it should not stop you from answering a question that resonates with what you are acceptive of. Moreover, of course I will not agree with Witness, especially with things he speak of in other discussions which makes his claim of false prophets a self-refutation upon himself. Regardless of what you think of JWs, they never in their existence made claim to being an inspired prophet, even tracing back to their days as Bible Students, furthermore, as I told Srecko, no Non-Trinitarian nor any true Restorationist will ever make the claim of being an inspired prophet. If anything they do see themselves as spirit led prophets who rare not inspired and not infallible. That being said, no one is blaming you - simply pointing out what can be seen, unless you make a move as Srecko did to undo things and act as if it did not exist, such will not go well with you because that information is already insight and the last person to do that knew he engineered his own demise in a past discussion here and another elsewhere. To add more fuel to the fire, the information that such ones like you are acceptive of comes from the source of which Witness pulled his information regarding JWs and inspired prophets, of which his own source is in deception when no such claim has ever been made, let alone to Non-Trinitarianism Christendom as a whole - the claim is unheard of and anyone who profess the claim as a viable truth and or accepts such is only kidding themselves and does not do the research on their part in this regard. Perhaps next time read and make the research before you agree with something, and maybe you will realize as to why I am not for false information and conspiracy, especially coming from a person who proclaims such who believes God sent Satan to do his bidding, for he as yet to make answer to his own words thus far, clearly you shouldn't be acceptive of someone who believes this which is also a lie for God would never do such thing in Moses day. Also I admire the mild jab, as seen here But a man of Christ will always speak the truth in the matter, and Mr. Cryptic who thinks a dead mortal man can somehow still live, made a fool of himself when he does not even know elementary basics of Christian History. That being said, all I need is the Bible, some Hermeneutics, Strong's, Technological facts and various studies to put such ones in their place, for it did not stop me before and it will not now, and granted of how I am, I take up some great examples from Prophet Isaiah of which me imitating what he did is seen as an error in your eyes. Which is, in as much, quite funny, if I may add. Because you agreed with him and because you attest to me not liking something of which I just exposed to be false information. Be honest with yourself, if someone says such ones are of demonic influence, why in the world would you be speaking with them on this forum, why even commit to making a response to such persons of you agree with someone who speaks in such a way with the people of the faith community in question? Mind you, this man speaks on shifting God's Order which is a direct violation of not only the apostolic church, but of the Bible itself, accursed, if you will. Because you attest to what I speak of is an idea - it is not. It is fact that those who think of it in as such that such ones can be a cause to the problem, which history has proven in itself in recent years, especially with the whole Left vs. Right nonsense that is taking place. For example, we take racism. For someone to say that Racism does not exist, even in our day and age, they are part of the problem because to speak of it as such, it only bolsters others to do things they do not wish to do and even scatter people emotionally, break them. An in real life example is regarding those who says the Holocaust did not happen, this is in regards with a another faith group made such a claim, resulting in a young guy defending himself in this regard, but they kept on going with their lies and they broke the man causing him to cry. such persons who do this these things regardless of which domain this is in are the root of the issue, no solutions to anything to help and or other. That being said, the next time you say something is an idea, make sure it is not a literal mentality, it happens a lot in the US, even to you folks in the United Kingdom, that is, if you paid attention to whatever media you adhere to, for such is indeed a problem and people who pass it off as something silly or non-existence end up as part of the problem when they themselves can be the one to make a change in the matter. The mentality, that strives of people who attest to mobs will be put to an end when the End Times conclude and I will be very happy when such things are done away with. You should be too. A bad example in regards to what a response is made towards you in stating the mob mentality that exist nothing more than a mere idea. Perhaps next time understand as to why I made a response, Mr. Butler. Racism isn't an idea. Demonizing people isn't an idea. People suffer by means of such things, often end up as targets, those who know what mentality opposers press forth will say something, those who laugh or brush it off as something that does not exist, what of it then of those who are targets in this way? But of course, you will make claim [as you have done so already] that I see myself inferior (which you couldn't even proof when the truth has been spoken and the statistics, and facts, can be brought forth to make it up thus showing the error on your part) because of the imperfections of the world which I can see of which I had witnessed when you are living out in space being unaware of the situations at hand. Therefore, as I told the other commentor (The Pirate Bird) - people need to wake up and stop being asleep, this includes you. Understandable, as do I. But is is absurd and silly to demonize all Jehovah's Witnesses as if they all commit the crime as soon as that lone individual had done it. I assume Anna, JW Insider and Outta Here are Jehovah's Witnesses, for if someone did the action of abuse, the sin they commit on their hands does not define Anna, it does not define, JW Insider, it does not define Outta Here. And no, it isn't the Jehovah's Witnesses only, pedophilia and those who seek to abuse and molest children are all over the place. a JW, be it novice or advanced in the faith will not know the intent of the person of whom they are preaching to, let alone one they have evangelized. this is the very reason I gave you an example, if you led a Church, how would you know? You remove one person will ill intent, the more converts you have, the more adherents, you would not know there intent, in this regard, child abusers. Furthermore, if children is of your concern, you should be adhering to what Child Abuse and Neglect Services are teaching people, adhere to and educate yourself in this sense so you are better equip to deal with such things, perhaps even teach others, young or old, you can even teach a JW (perhaps teach them instead of always attacking them) because everyone deserves to, no, every must be educated in what child abuse is and understand the signs. You agreed with ARC, do you not? Then you should agree with how they themselves even point to this simple fact of educating people about child abuse, and making better clarification of things. If there is anything a child molester likes the most, it is a child who is not educated in what child abuse is, let alone what sex is, granted by numerous cases of most children and young ones always being confused and not knowing what just happen. You can be the cause to stop the abuse, and it begins with education, adhere to it, proclaim it, teach others so they can teach themselves and to others, spread what Child Abuse Prevention teaches. If I can do such and understand that child abuse can happen anywhere, then you can do the same, but you refuse, Srecko on the other hand even mocks the information from Child Abuse and Neglect Services. Srecko made a claim I do not care about children when I speak to and take care of them, hear their stories and what they have to say and what I teach them, especially when it comes to sex and or child abuse, they have that wisdom so that they do not make ill decisions by their own hands, for if you didn't notice even a child can become the abuser. For clearly I made it known from the source itself to which the cryptic yes-man disagrees with, even being in denial of the one of whom he supports who shares the same view as me: On the other side of the spectrum, pedophilia is getting a masses following, it cannot be stop, which is the sad truth, but small instances can be prevented. For if you did not realize it, you have people who are trying to make pedophilia an okay thing, and they are doing this slowly, mainly in the US the people on the Far-Left, as they call it, is in support of this and it is seeping into the EU, including the UK, hence the gangs in question who carter to those with vile intent in regards to children. That being said, you can do better than that and if you think a small protest that takes up aggressive church disruption as a positive thing, you should be going with another crowd, for if random church members backed out and people of the county are speaking negatively about said protest, that alone should tell you something is wrong and something is not right. Again, better solutions, and adhere to the Bible on what it says in taking in knowledge and Wisdom, like the verses I gave Srecko on my older response in that link. That being said, I recall telling you of what young Christian teens said about your response regarding masturbation and pornography, if you want, I can screen you the information of what they had said, about you, and what message they have for you. Chances are, you will not like it, for these teens are doing their best to educate people and your comment of which you profess to him, they did not like it. That alone speaks volumes. How can you say that when you made claim that you do not judge people or assume things? You do not even know who they are personally, you have never met them, if anything you recognize them through any various media about Jehovah's Witnesses and the like. Example would be one can make a judgement on a Homeless man because he takes up space on the street, his clothing is a mess and he can give a very bad order, but if someone truly knew them, spoke to get to to know them, they'd realize that the homeless man is a war veteran, who had a great family until calamity befell them, he can speak about a son and or a daughter of whom he loved but that child was perhaps killed and or had passed away, or even estranged - you wouldn't know unless you knew them. The works of the homeless man's hands is only committed to the trash and garbage cans around him but that is not the person who is he, for he did not choose to be in that state, bad things in life led him into that position and he seeks help but does not know how to express such, perhaps, even feeling afraid and or inferior to men and women in suits walking among him, even shaming him when they do not know him. You judge you say, but it contradicts what you had always made a stance on. You even made claim only God can judge you or someone else. You may as well tell us why this time, regarding religious leaders, how did you take the judgement seat of which God sits on in this case? You did claim before no one owns God, what does that make you when you go back o your own words? you never associated yourself with those religious leaders so how would you know? You somehow judge every JW to be alike based on your experience in perhaps a small JW church in the UK, the pastors or elders there do not represent all of them around the globe, granted there is 8.5 million of them and growing, clearly not all of them are the same people, just the same faith, nothing more. That being said, it is understandable, according to your claim, if you really knew them - but you do not and most certainly I doubt you even confronted them, maybe outside of the UK and at their main church. Next time always be true to your words and do not go back on them. Like the bible says which this can relate to, let your yes mean yes, and your no mean no for this goes beyond of that of a wicked man (Matthew 5:37). It would be foolish to even use the Scriptures on your part granted your other statements, even your own words. For if now you are saying this and using this passage, does that make your other comments and past responses as a lie? It would not be a surprise if I bring up a single verse in this regard, let alone, it would not be a surprise if I said exactly hat Lord Christ Jesus said to Peter hen he rebuked him. But if I had to agree with any of your statements, I agree with what you said about only God and or Jesus can judge, even you, as you speak of yourself in this sense, and like our older discussions you attested to that same claim. But here we see you make a U-turn here. Ok. So can you explain how you said you know of whom God approves and who does not? Because if the Father knows who is for him, how can you make approval for him if you are in no such position, let alone being accpetive to claims that cannot be proven, or claims made by you that you bear no evidence to, or claims made that is false but you show yourself to be agreeing of such. You are lucky I only see you as misguided and clearly driven by not just anger, but hatred. Therefore I withhold a single verse that can be used against you, just as I had withhold it from Witness. I leave you with this though, you do not have to agree with your former faith, but actually have some sense to discern what is true and what is false. If former JWs said the Watchtower has own a portion of Nintendo products and Women's Lingerie, clearly that is absurd and can easily be refuted, but those who have a and even shares a strong disdain, clearly and evident, hatred for something or someone will easily pass such off as an actual truth and will go as far as to attack others and or bystanders who are in their way. That being said, Matthew 7:23 should not even be quoted by you. Because if everyone knows, any Christian who based their practices and or rules and or laws from the bible knows what this verse entails. You are not a fan of something Biblical - expelling. If you are against it, this verse can be applied to you as Jesus will not recognize any man or woman who shows a total disrespect and or clear ignorance of what he had entrusted the Church to do. If the Christ showed up right now and you had issue with his command and the Laws of his Father, let alone allegedly being an Anti-Pauline when Paul was a follower of the Christ himself? What do you think, would he say these words to you? Most likely, mainly when some Christians tend to water down what the Bible says because they deem it too strict, even going as far as to take up changes, Traditions of Men, and shifting Orderly Worship of God. One wouldn't dare do such things otherwise they will be standing in front of the white throne itself for judgement. Further proves my point on how you and the others are not aware of what a modern prophet, a Christian, is spirit led. It also solidifies the ignorance of Christian history when you do not know what a Restorationist is. Education is key and the fact that you utter such proves you lack, as you said it here. That being said, I mentioned they are prophets not inspired and not infallible, it does not negate such ones role, especially in the history of Restorationism and they being among the only people who adhere to their roots, as spirit led Christians.To not mix or twist has witness have done countless times.

@Kosonen China was never an ally of the US, they side with Russia and their faction and the US has their own faction with secondaries who support them. A Great War will not begin with China because the political theater masks who is the starter of the fight and it is not them. A clue in regards to the Globalist Mafia would be present day Israel, granted their actions have proven their resolve time and time again and of whom supports them. Babylon has already issued a conquest for peace, and a conquest for security, of which originates with that of the US and their allies, in turn, Russia and as well as China are not a fan of it, nor is Iran, hence the two factions and there are things to which remains unknown to such ones, perhaps even you, but those who seek the truth, those who are like truthers, know what is actually going on. That being said, it is best to be vigilant and to do research in this matter. It is best to know who is side China is actually on and who will be the very ones to throw the first punch and who shall deliver.

I do not care about real terms? You have stated yourself such things is of an idea as if it does not exist, you show yourself to be a means to the problem to think of such in this way, which is the same case with those who profess the same attitude as you do, and thus problem ensues. People who are concern and caring take into account of any such persons with this based minded mentality, some to an extent, a mob mentality. Same stuff? Please. One can count up the measure of what you profess by your own hand which surpasses even mine, unlike you, I am being far more realistic and understanding of things - you however, are not, thus being alien to the things taking place around you, even within your area. I asked you for several things (only once in the previous response of which clearly you have dodged), some of which you made the claim, I have not, reasons why I told you to show me. And I asked or the following: I asked you to show me evidence to which you seem to consider me incorrect in hence your acceptiveness with the others, you have not brought up anything being asked of you let alone when the others have been asked, they brought nothing themselves, thus resulting in the incorrection being done on those who profess and agree with something that is false. Therefore the truth has been made known. Such ones never claimed to be inspired prophets or infallible. You made claim I am supporting Islam when I merely explained Islam to you and their beliefs even attested to showing the misconceptions to which the latter had went dead silence, clearly explaining something and correcting someone on Islam does not show as support. I asked you to show me as to where am supporting Islam of which it is unfounded, thus making you a lair in ever sense for he word. Nest time make sure you have the proof before you say something. The next claim is that JWs have a demonic influence, as brought up by Witness and it is of something agreeable in the eyes who side with him. Since none have yet to show me any of this claim of demonic influence, it makes the latter a lair because such a thing is unfounded, moreover, when I was in discussion with him, you had your say hence why the question is being asked of you, to which it is seen as unfounded. You yourself made claim that you seem to know of whom God approves or not (thus putting you in a position one would say thinking for God). This alone shrouds you in deception in every sense. When someone makes claim they cannot prove and resort to a response such as yours, then there is no resolve on that person's part, after all, you asked for it and yet you could not even deliver. It is one thing to be confused about something, but it is another to express ignorance and doing so knowingly and or be a yes-man to conspiracy and or false information. You put yourself in the same boat as the Trinitarian who tried to make claims in regard of Christian history only for it to not go well with him in the end where he used John 8:44 on his self, thus engineering his own failure. The fact you do not understand the gravity of this quote shows how blind you truly are, Mr. Butler and the irony here is I used that quote to make a point, of which you have proven as predicted. Most of German? No. You do realize how the Nazi Regime was with not just its captive, but of their own who was against them, an example would be the German Resistance against the Nazis and Hitler. The German Resistance, although German and of Germany were separate from the Nazis and the actions of the Nazis do not define the German Resistance. The Secret State Police otherwise known as The Gestapo and the Security Service (SD) suppressed the open criticism of the regime professed by Nazi opposers, hence the German opposition to the Nazi state and the regimentation of society. These Germans were not for the Nazis, nor were they for Hitler and not allow of them hated the primary targets of the Nazis - The Jews. The opposition against the Nazi was also even among their own faction whereas people started to go against the Regime itself, even Hitler, an example would be Wilhelm Canaris. Of course it was not one, two, or perhaps several hundreds, but not all of Germany was for the Nazis, some opposed, some were against, for these individuals who were in opposition to the Nazis are not defined as Nazis. and yet people to day will insult a random German, or a German-American and calling them Nazis when they and or their household do not have anything to do with Nazis whatsoever. This mentality existence in every aspect: Race, Religion, even Sex whereas you have such ones like Feminist who will do anything and everything to destroy your life if they had the chance. That being said, do not ever mistake something that is true to be an idea when the mentality exists. Learn the history, it may benefit you, Butler. And? Religious leaders regardless of what they do or say does not define men, women and children of that faith. Although their practices are the same, any of those religious leaders does not define a JW who is in the Virgin Islands, perhaps another in Africa, maybe one in Japan or the be it the US or UK, each and everyone one of them are different. For if an action is taken by a church elder, him being exposed to be someone vile and one who did a crime, it does not define others of that church, of that faith, the very point I make time and time again whereas you have before defined them instantly by means of your own experience in your own JW church, for such a thinking professed by you or the masses is absurd and even outside of that it leads to other actions such as vengeful attacks and or hate crime if it escalates. You also speak of cleansing, something that is deemed nigh impossible because you have amount 7.53 billion+ people in the world, any one of them can become a JW by means of evangelicalism, you do not know their true intent, for a guy who joins them exactly wants betterment in his life and to understand who God is while another guy who joins them only to commit to gang stalk women, another may join them to seek children - they would not know unless it is too late, let alone not realizing any signs professed by someone. Put yourself in a position of a religious leader, what would you do when you do not know the intent of perhaps 30 people in a small church you built, perhaps 100 or more, maybe 18,000. You would not be able to cleanse anything when you do not know the intent and or history of someone who chooses to go to your church and even outside of the church, the problem is far greater than you realize. You remove one, more will come, each with a ill unique intent of their own to do bad to commit problems and or harm to members of your church, the culprit could even be a young child and you not even know. That being said, all men are imperfect, problems that irks you cannot be down away totally by the hands of man, the very reason I stated only God can clear up such a thing 100%, something of which Srecko tends to mock because he remains ignorance that all men are imperfect. Dictatorship? If that is the case you should make yourself an Anti-Pauline and tear out pages from your own Bible, see how well you fair with True Christians once you do this. Jesus built the church and it has been structured for Orderly Worship, in as much professed by Apostle Paul when he spoke of Creation, granted, as seen in the Bible his notion of such when referring to the First man - Adam, and the First Woman - Eve. If the church does what it needed to up-build it's people, even use its abilities to reinstate, expel, purify, etc that isn't dictatorship, and all churches do this however the only church who has done it the right way for so long was the apostolic church in which only a few follow, it is a problem if the church waters down what the apostolic church has done and or abandons it totally. I suggest you learn about the church of which Jesus build a long time ago and learn what the Apostolic Church is because this is pure ignorance by you on your own part. Another factor is Restoration Christians are strict, even Bible strict but they are not dictatorial and heir teachings and ruling comes from that of the Bible, as with all True Christians who understands this also. You stated last time religious leadership was something of Pharisees, which came to bite you in the end when such was refuted and you had been corrected thoroughly - therefore I do have an idea because I understand the Theological Christology of a majority of Anti-Trinitarianic groups. If I had no idea, then why is it I corrected you on the early church before whereas you claimed religious leadership is a Tradition of Men? That being said, as followers of the Christ, people did follow the disciple, Paul even, people did follow the other religious leaders of that time because their spiritual goal remains the same and is aligned with the church, which is the same case with some of us today. For the only head of the church is the Christ, and God is above him, regardless of who the religious leader is. I need not link the apostolic church link again because I gave you the link before. God knows if you read it or not, but the truth has been spoken in this regard.

The thing is people are sleeping on things as if it does not exist. Famine, Racism, Rape Culture, Far-Left/Right nonsense, people being pushed out of homes as a means of getting people to get surveillance homes and a list of other things.

So show me the evidence of making claim to inspired prophets whereas the information present outweighs the falsehood of such claims. Most importantly, I want you so show me the claim you made against me about supporting Islam when I merely explained their view to you, not once, but several times. Show me as to where the JWs are of demonic influence. Also I want you to show me prove of God's approval, as you so claim before. The lot of you didn't even know the difference of an inspired prophet and who who is not, so what more can you show me than snippets from a book whereas in the same paragraph is self-refutes the claim you have made? If anyone knows the history. Jesus entrusted the disciples to continue on in his behalf, of which the disciples have done so, as with the churches, the early Christians and Paul. Christians can and will make mistakes but it does not defeat the purpose of the message they will bring, even some mistakes made by the actions of their own hand they make up for it for they are human, they are imperfect and they have perhaps more sense to even realize that. This was the case with Eusebius who knew the errors of some folk and corrected them, especially when he exposed those who take up things that is accursed, defending a verse of which all of us know today to which the mainstream has misinterpreted. This is the same case with Christians today when it comes to such, for ever man and woman can stumble, but it does not stop them from standing back up. Because when Jesus formed the church, the disciples did what they had to do to maintain peace in the church, in Paul's case, he had the ability to bind and loosen, just as the others have, to remove what is seen as bad in the church, mainly when it came to unrepentant ones, of which we see an example of such in the Bible. As Christians we are to preach to all people, help them learn what the gospel actually is so that they too can learn, so that they too can understand why Jesus is the Head of the Church, and why God is the head of the Christ and so forth, for if people are not taught these things it will lead to outlandish practices and doctrines that has no origin within the church whatsoever. And if one does not adhere to the Great Commission it is an utter disservice to the one who gave the command, for a Christian to not adhere such a command how can he say he follow the Christ? He or she is only kidding themselves if they are as such. For there is a distinction between a Christian who is True and a Christian who is False and it shows who is doing things accordingly and who is not. Insulting? How would I be insulting God when the one who agree with things God sent Satan to do his bidding? I am not insulting God whatsoever because I am speaking the truth in this matter. I am not someone such as yourself who lives in a box not realizing the gravity of the situation of what the world is. I do anything and everything for the truth of the Scriptures and of God and unlike you I will not stoop to the lowest level and make claim I am a Christian and yet show the true colors which will result in people to profess question. Therefore, I want you to prove yourself claim because I can easily prove how you attempt to violate Scripture by means of thinking something of today's language reflect the language of Old. That is if you protest to go there, I am able and willing. That being said I defended God's order, the ones you have agreed with were against it. So you tell me who is insulting God if you want to play this game of yours in this way. Then show me as to where they claimed to be inspired prophets and infallible. If I speak the truth about the difference of a prophet inspired and not inspired, they have at it then. Tell me exactly as to when and where they made this claim otherwise you remain in deceit of your own design and of those who profess it. The JWs themselves is a denomination, a Christian faith, and seeing that they hold true to their Restorationist roots, they have religious leaders, their church has roles as is not to different from those who does anything and everything to be like the early church. They understand that God isn't a Triune Being, they understand the importance of the Great Commission of which the latter has shown to be against in an older debate. They understand that the world is indeed wicked in a sense to the price of which we pay by the hands of our first parents who committed sin and disobeyed God and they understand, like all persons in the world, be it religious or not, they such things cannot be resolved by humans hands, but only of God. something of which you remain to be shrouded by that simply fact. You cannot cleanse an entire faith because you do not know who goes in and out of the faith. You cannot cleanse the world of it's imperfection because man is unable to do such a task by their own hand let alone any government on the face of this earth. for you to remain ignorant to this face further proves you are among those who do not take into account what is taking place and perhaps, like Kairos, be easily swept by their words and be nothing more than a follower of them, one of the very reasons I hold a strong disdain for Interfaith because I did the research and I observed, I know who is the real threat here, clearly you do not. Idea? Have you checked the news recently? Perhaps the Security Guard who was a hero but ended up being shot and the aftermath of the action? Did you really miss such things? Do you even pay attention and or vigilant of what is going on? When it comes to an action done by someone of a race, a faith, a background and or upbringing, the actions of the sole individual makes puts people in the mentality of seeing all persons of that following the same. Examples would be Muslims, and seeing you are in the UK this should come as no surprise to you because it happens and you know it happens, granted you posted articles that even have links to such tragic stories. If someone does something, someone of that faith,. their whole faith and it's people are demonized, blamed, insulted they are spoken of as being a terror group, this takes place in public spaces and even schools and it goes on, it goes for people of racial backgrounds as well whereas if someone of a race is killed by someone who is not of that race, a whole racial group is to blame for the actions of one person, it does not define everyone as the same for the actions of a single man. This mentality is what is poisoning our society and some of us are woke enough to see that. But clearly you thinking it is my idea further proves your ignorance. That being said, actions committed by a killer, a pedophile, a con-man does not define everyone. Granted it is not unknown to people that religious institutions have some who commit to pedophilia, and it is no surprise it happens in the churches of the Jehovah's Witnesses, but it is absurd and foolish to attest to the very idea that because of the actions of a man or a few that thousands of others should be called as such on the streets for an action they had no hand in. Again, the case with the Church disruption done by Mr. Gardner and friends, they refereed to the JWs who had no idea what was going on, you can see the fear in their faces, and they insulted, even shamed, when they did no wrong to no one. If you have people backing away from the actions done by such ones, that it on itself is a problem because last I checked, when I made mention of this months ago you were nowhere to be found, so do not act like you know the situation when you have no idea of what went down it was more than that and such ones made more enemies than friends/allies. I told you before, the Jehovah's Witnesses are not immune to those who commit pedophilia and or abuse children, no one is as is with ALL institutions. That actions of such ones even among JWs who do that does not define the masses, does it define the JWs on this forum? No. Does it define those who had their churches raided? No. Does it define the Russian JWs? No. If one JW does the cirm he will do the timer, case and point, but his actions does not define all JWs around the globe, even the ones here, it the onw who is branded as a criminal does not reflect them also. Problems like this will continue to happen because pedophilia is widespread and it has started to happen in restaurants also. To the Unitarians is his not unknown either for even Unitarians are found out to be pedophilia, but despite this, it does not define all of them, the same with Muslims and others, even Jews, of which they had a shooting take placer weeks ago for them in the US. Another situation where a little girl was not just abused but she was violently molested in a school in the US, does it define all Americans because of the actions of this man? No. It is things like that you have to realize because clearly you speak of showing care as did before but you present another face when it comes to claim. In my case, I am for education and teachings young ones to do what is right, so they themselves do not become a target and I am happy of what I accomplished in this domain because I know what the CAP is doing actually works. That being said, Child Prevention Services even gave examples of trying to minimize the situation and or recognize them, even offering help and solutions to which you your yourself to be in opposition of (which is the same case with ARC and its solutions), as is evident at every instance of which I presented even pulled information from those sources to present to you and others. So you tell me, you think Child Abuse and Neglect Prevention is a joke or not, and how is it you are helping the cause when such things are seen as lacking on your part? No one can stop pedophilia, we can only do our best to minimize the issue wherever it is, the same way that we cannot stop famine or war 100%, this we cannot stop completely for it is indeed earth wide and spreading and some even are fighting to defend pedophilia as if it is some special sexual orientation. The best I can do is educate our children and others adults, perhaps you yourself should be doing the same thing, keeping our youth able and ready so they can teach others. You should try it sometime. I already explain after I did the research ever since the ARC thread. Perhaps correct yourself before you speak. They have a use for the ruling and it is not unknown to anyone of what that is. Even NBC, the same MSM organization do not have all the facts to the ruling but the actual information of where I pulled it from speaks the truth in this matter. Child abuse is everywhere it is not secluded to solely Jehovah's Witnesses. You are in the UK, you should be aware of grooming gangs but the fact you are unaware of such things unless I brought it up further proves your stance and your views. The shunning is actually biblical but only cuts church ties. This has been proven true with Biblical Facts, as with regarding JWs, even former members make the same claim. Understand as to why that command is entrusted,but you not knowing that further proves where you lack in spiritual wisdom. Stupid idea? It is no idea, it is an actual mentality, to some extent, a mob mentality. In the US you do realize why police officers are attack on occasion sometimes? Because people prompt the mentality to blame all police officers for the actions of a single officer on the other side of the US or elsewhere. If a police officer commits murder, even a racist one, if they rape, if they extort, if they pin the blame or planet drugs on someone, etc. This will cause people to speak and assume that because of that lone police officer, it defines all of them. Which is not something and or even a path we should follow. Even to you guys in the UK, should someone do something it does not define you, or the rest of the people in your vicinity. Should one commit a crazy crime, a knife or acid attack which is common in the UK and such was done out of hate - does it define you? No. How will others define you? They will equate to you as the culprit, like him who did the crime, they will speak slander of you and a list of others things we you know yourself and your family knows you are not that guy, but others who are very angry with the criminal, they will spare no stone to protest that you are the villain. This mentality is a gross one, we such a thing should not be passed on to our children. It all goes back to Evo's question of which you said he was trying to trick you. He had a good reason saying that. That is sheer ignorance. With what has gone down throughout the years and you attest such holds no idea when the mentality is there in this sense? Srecko may be under a rock on some things, but you show yourself to be perhaps lost in space. First, not all JWs are wicked, and even the bad ones do not define all the rest, even the ones on this forum, they do not even define Kathgar that would have ended up as a target for ISIS a while back. And Here is where you contradict yourself. You do not assume things of people nor do you judge, and yet you are found out to say the following: [And it is because of the GB's rules and the Elders acting as puppets] Any JW here is a puppet? As far as I am concern no one is a puppet here, thus making your insult towards them as weak as your claim of being supporting Islam when I merely explained it to you. Pedophilia had been around for a long time and it has infiltrated all intuitions, even in Bible times regarding Baal Worshipers who were cursing God's people although not mention, such ones were indeed young. They do not allow it to happen because they to do their best, you'd be surprise as to some of them who actually took the advice of Child Abuse Prevention Services and applied it by educating themselves and others, which is the case with an African JW I spoke of before. You need to wake yourself up because this is reality, not a dream, and such of what is said is no idea when it takes place all over the place, all over the world, you have examples of that with the Jews and Samaritans even in Bible times, but not all Jews (even in Jesus' case and those connected to him) are the same, not all Samaritans are the same. Meditate on this quote, Butler and do the research, read whatever news you adhere to, because you show yourself in critical need of it. “Don't let the actions of a few determine the way you feel about an entire group. Remember, not all German's were Nazis.” Erin Gruwell That begin said, check thyself before you wreckth thyself because thing the so called idea is stupid, it shows you fail to see what is going around you in the world, let alone your own country, as of which I made mention with London already, as did others. I leave you with this. If Child Abuse is that much of a concern for you, why not adhere to what child prevention services who are instructing people to do, by means of teaching, even PSA and videos, helping people to help prevent someone else from being a victim or the one who preys on victims; passing on teachings to someone younger to help lessen abuse? If it can help others, it can help you even teach you so that anyone who sees you as a guardian can also be helped Instead of attacking JWs on the daily simply speak them calmly and even educate them in his sense, come to them as they are a blood brother/sister of yours and teach them if need be, it does not have to be JW only, you have Catholics, Jews, Muslims, etc - at least this is where you can come to common round with such folks outside debate and discussion. After all, it is far worse in the UK than it is here in the US. Do yourself a favor and do what I do, educate them

@JOHN BUTLER Simply just go talk to them, it didn't stop others from doing this. But with the way things are going people can be concern of who they are confronted by. Clearly if you being to attack them they will not continue any further.

He does not know that the actions of alone person a killer, a pedophile, a con man, even if that person is in the church of Jehovah's Witnesses, the actions of such a man does not define all of them. This goes hand in hand with someone who is of and or former by their own experience, they do not define everyone else. Butler's experience does not define the experience and actions of another UK counterpart of his, an Arab JW named Kathgar. This mentality is absurd to assumption of the masses for the sake one one or two foolish ones. Such a mentality plagues everything from religion to education, and even in the realm of medicine and disease. But as one guy mentioned today to me, that is the mind of people of the world nowadays. As of recent a Security Guard was shot and killed for stopping a gunman. An honest man would know that one police officer should be held accountable, but it does not bring anyone justice to attack all police officers for the sake one man who took such action, to add more fuel to the fire it becomes more of a racial thing. People can be better than that but they refuse to bring forth the betterment of themselves thus passing on the erroneous actions of their hands to the children, the next generation and they to their children, next generation. That being said, such ones need to wake up, but that therapeutic pillow is just too good for them and they remain asleep.

Can you point anywhere as to where I had made mention to Christians who have spiritual gifts - elsewhere besides here, Butler? Also I do not see why you now refrain from quoting me so I can get a notification this time. Surely I expect a stronger response than that than that parrot remark, but you know as they say, when you Resort To naming, it shows that you’ve lost the argument. There isn't a single thing I've mention that is not true and everything I speak of is indeed true. Also Mr. Butler, if you have forgotten, the study of religion is actually a thing. Where have you been Butler? In the mountains? You speak of experience but you wee only secluded to a single JW church in your place of dwelling. Your experience does not define the masses, now does it Mr. Butler, if you show yourself to be of that mentality, which was somewhat showing last time, it makes you a the cause of a bigger problem that is the realm of anything else including religion. Oh really then? So what was your actions in response for the last several threads in span of months now, Butler? the difference things I am aware of the situation of things, you are not. To speak of such and yet you are found to be replicating the same, but it is to commit to discussion than what is spoken of - like right now. Not all former members, granted the existence and evidence of those, former Jehovah's Witnesses, they are against former Jehovah's Witnesses who seek to take every little thing to attack the faith community, some of them even going as far as to wanting to see, even seek the death of all Jehovah's Witnesses because they do not like them or what they do. They are in danger of Christendom of he mainstream, did you forget the number of events that took place before the Russian Ban? The stolen money? What took place in a Russian School? The War parades? Clearly you do not know any of such things because you do not want to do the research, you are a yes-man to every bit of information through your way and accept it as is without even taking some time to do the research. To add more fueling to the fire, disgruntled ones tend to paint all JWs as the same and they will attack anyone or any JW, even a JW who has a visible and yet obvious disability if need be. Plus you have people who are not of the faith nor give a care of the Bible coming to the defense of those they know in the faith, defending them from disgruntled ExJws - there is a video of that, even the atheists have that video too, this also includes the one individual who was ready to take action on disgruntled JWs who went after his girlfriend, who is of that faith community - as Evo pointed out. Yes there are those who suffer, indeed, but not all of them for everyone situation is different, same faith yes, but the background and things such each person faces varies, and or is vastly different. Everyone does this, in schools, religions, clubs, even conventions of anything, they do this, mainly if they do not agree with them or does not like them. You think this is of some new unfounded design? Who said anything about hate? Show me as to where I said I hate protesting. Do not twist my words because as I told you before protesting in this sense does not do any good, an ExJW stopped the protest, he was backed up by a gay man and an artist as well, the very man who stopped it is someone of whom Srecko supports. If you want to know those who committed to the protest last year even wanted the religious leaders of JWs to show up to speak with them, the EXJWs joked about assassination attempts, and onward they went on to disrupt religious service of a church they do not agree with. Even some of their own backed out because they knew it was too much, even atheist bring this up. The churches that they rallied together backed out also because although they agree/disagree with JWs on some thing they too know it was not right. Among the ExJWs they even wanted to get the US president to ban and or attack JWs, wipe them off of the face of the US. You tell me how far is one willing to go when anyone and everyone can see with their eyes this is not the right way, to which even people of that county even state and see it as borderline extremism? Tell me John Butler, you think this is right when even churches back out as with others? That being said, if being okay with disruption and take over a church is cool with you, clearly you need to be checked out because any sane man can see that this is downright wrong, it is not about hate, it is about how this was done and by whom and what was the result by means of the aftermath. All this went on as ANTIFA was beating the water out of people in the streets with the Black Bloc party and BAMN, lead by a school professor who is among the spokesman for the group to commit violence. What happen last year was not of pain. Yes people were hurt and they felt something, but some of them backed out when things got chaotic for they themselves knew it was not right, it only pains them as much as an enemy to disgruntled JWs than the JWs themselves. Clearly there are better ways, but such in such matter is not one of them. Moreover, it creates people into enemies in the process, which was the case with the one guy going on a warpath against ExJWs for his girlfriend who was in that same JW church that was disrupted in Passaic County. even outside of religion any sane person would know this isn't the right way to express ones feelings or pain, for in the US that is asking for bloodshed in some if not most situations when this go downhill. Playing it safe? I have been a Biblical Unitarian since I was 6. Not only I studied the Bible, but I studied religions very early, hence my stance on the Trinity, but at the same time to speak the gospel I have to understand the rights from wrongs and know that anything accursed must be refuted. It isn't about support, it is about exposing falsehood of conspiracy spread by people who clearly has a disdain for the faith. Witness mentioned 2 books by JWs that ExJW use that primarily to proof false prophets, people who claim to be inspired but the claim in of itself is unfounded. even in our history of Christendom you would never caught a Non-Trinitarian make that claim, and if it unknown to everyone JWs do not believe in the Trinity thus maintain Restorationist roots. Unless you want to show me as to where Jehovah's Witnesses or Watchtower, what have you owns Nintendo and Victoria Secret stocks, as claimed by ExJws, then show me if I am in the wrong, Butler. Because I can pull up one quote from an ExJW that has proven the people in question in error, as I have done here now regarding a prophet and an inspired prophet. Moreover, I do not see how spiritual gifts of a normal prophet does not make one inspired and or infallible has gone amissed - it tell you the difference in the Scriptures. Therefore, I speak truth of the matter, nothing more, you want to see it a support, so be it, but a man who speaks of conspiracy and error will and shall forever be refuted if need be. Do you have proof? Explaining misconceptions and errors people say about Islam isn't support. I have an understanding as to what they believe and where they are coming from themselves and yet I am still a Biblical Unitarian. Clearly here I have explained to you what their belief is because as with anything pertaining to religious studies, I understand rather, which you have done, assume. And seeing you are in the United Kingdom you will realize how quick your own country will paint you if you do not understand Islam's views, you may end up like Lauren Southern or Tommy Robinson, who on his part, painted everyone as the same for the actions of a few on occasion because he believes error that sparks fear. Well for starters, you were quick to assume one's forgiveness, you were quick to assume things, you were quick to not speak of as if you know who has God's approval and who does not and a list of others things, to which you agree at one time and later disagree with. I asked you before a basic question, for if you cannot teach yourself on this small thing, how are you to teach others? One stated that, even assumed, God's Order has changed when Apostle Paul said otherwise, the other calls Abraham selfish and a lair but the Bible as we read in account of Abraham says the opposite, you think this equates to God's Message? His Word? When the Bible says otherwise even giving us the verse and or passage to which we can see for ourselves about the truth of the matter? No - clearly someone will say something, refute, perhaps even confute if need be. Then speak up. Do not use false information and conspiracy to justify it as a truth, otherwise you will deal with response in a mater with such ones like me and or other. Learn and research then come to the conclusion because if someone says something that is found out to be untrue even when the Bible professes the truth, someone who knows what is true will say something, which is the case with the following: A Prophet Inspired and Infallible A Prophet (Not) Inspired and Infallible The reasons why I profess the claim of which they bring forth, the same claim of which they bring up those books from - is unfounded. Not even in Non-Trinitarianism History you will find such a thing. How are you so sure they are pretending if you yourself do not know who has God's approval or not? You do realize they too are seeking God, as with the rest of us. But going this far to take up claim to false information and conspiracy to claim false prophet makes one the bigger problem and or villain in this case than those they target. They never claimed to be inspired prophets, Butler, they know this, and everyone else knows this and understand the difference in one inspired and a normal prophet. Christians today are prophets, clearly not inspired or infallible. The REAL danger is Babylon's religion, the E.I.I and it clear connection with Lucis Trust, as seen in history, or as some would say, NWO if you even bothered to look into that formation. You should be weary of who is on that side and who isn't, I already gave you one clue and the people who support such is those of the Interfaith, reasons why their conquest is for peace while their counterpart is for security. No one owns God, indeed, such ones, as with all of us strive to follow God be close to him, and follow his Son, the Christ, Jesus. The problem you face is what of the church Jesus himself built? You cannot be unaware of this information, if so, why try to follow the Christ if this information is alien to you, after all, you asked me before of what church I am referring to. That being said, you at some point asked for a debate or stated we are in a debate. With you we can start with 2 things: psalms 137:9 When Kettel was asked of you as to what this is, do you know of it, granted you are a reader of the Bible yourself? Other than that, everything spoken of is indeed true, one cannot refute the difference of one prophet inspired and the other who is not.

He's actually a legit one, credible. His name is Jake Morphonios. The stalking can be explained by him, which was done on US soil

Romans were brutal. You'd have to leave town before they can capture you, perhaps go overseas and go full incognito. But then you may have a bounty on your head so if you have hear and a beard, best to shave it all off, try to blend in, so this way bounty hunters and assassins will not find you to hand you over to those who want to crucify you. Other than that, Roman punishment was swift, cruel and ridiculously unusual. Aside from Crucifixion (that is if they do not get unique with hanging someone upon side on a good day for them), you can be Bee Basket'd Eaten through the middle by starving animals be cauldron tortured Public Executions buried alive, (something of which Nero took delight in) nailed to barrels The Arena Being burned alive, while bonded Fed to Lions toured by means of being forced to walk on hot coal that is always burning. tied off cut in half fed to wild hogs sewn into a donkey tossed to wild barbaric beasts possibly decapitation, but they are the types to have enduring pain rather than an instant execution To them in ancient history regarding Roman, death was not a punishment, it is a release, for torture was punishment, and death was only allowed after a certain amount of pain and terror had been felt. They got a variety, that for sure. That being said, it was a brutal time, and if one was Crucified, wait til they go for your legs, they'll break them if you are still somehow barely alive if they need to speed up death, it is that crazy.

@JOHN BUTLER If I may add, since you are using Biblehub, have you even checked the commentary? If this is regarding John 20:20, 25, then plurality is in use here. Nail(s) is a Masculine Plural whereas Hand(s) is a Feminine Plural (also including a Feminine Singular) - both of them being nouns, which is going with Strong's Concordance.

Kosonen experience does not define the experience as all of them, for in doing so it is sheer demonizing a whole community for the actions of a few, which is a constant even outside of religion and people need to be constantly reminded as to why doing such is bad and clearly I am not a fan of such type of mentality, one of which that is very obvious around the world today whereas harassing a specific group in question, even going as far as to commit hate crimes even killing them is justified out of fear, one example regarding a school I will never forget what one woman said while disgruntled ones, influence by people with such a view, tried to make it seem the actions of a sole individual is justification to attack a whole group. How so, when Christians today who do errors, why not say such of them when they too understand they are not inspired and not infallible? I can bring up several examples on many, even you, if need be, and I have given examples on my part on my behalf in this regard also. That being said, you do not have to agree with them, which is understandable and evident, but to accept and even pull information from ones who make the claim of an inspired prophet when the truth of the mater is they are not, even going as far as to not know what a prophet and an inspired prophet is in difference and using that as the stone to your structure will only cause whatever you are pushing to fall. as I told you before, you stumble upon yourself. If you actually understand the difference between a prophet and a prophet not inspired, you recognize, if you uphold the the Words from the Bible you are too a prophet one with spiritual gifts, clearly not an inspired one, which is the case with Christians today. Moreover, granted the history of Non-Trinitarians also known as Anti-Trinitarians, they have made errors, but they would never, ever take to the grave with them the claim of being an inspired prophet - ever. So where does that leave you then, Witness? A prophet (modern Christian), you who proclaimed Orderly Worship in a different light, an accursed one, rather than the what the church itself has done as history proved evident in, in which you are clearly attacking those who uphold such Order, what of that? Was it not you who was on the opposite side adhering the Great Commission when such is a command from the Lord, Christ Jesus himself? A prophet who is mixing things around to justified his views based on opinions and emotions instead of what the Bible says, thus putting in application man's understanding of a verse and or passage, what of that? A prophet who uses a Biblical forgery to make a justification to his views when that this forgery has been debunked by the manuscript and codex evidence, what of this? Using misinformation to accuse someone of wrongdoing when even a former person of that faith gives a shattering refutation that is like that of a revelation to claims you have made, what of that? Profess to an accursed doctrine that is alien to the church and it applied by those who do not follow any of the teachings from the Bible, what about that brief discussion? Attempted to use someone's mistake and or word against them, and quick to accuse someone for a minor unnecessary thing that they did not see and or was not aware of, what of this? Let alone you proclaiming that God allowing Satan to help in Egypt by means of a single verse, so I ask, what of you if this was the case to instantly assume someone is a false prophet? You said it best: For it we must go there, discernment and false prophets, by all means saith thy word and it shall be done. For if I need to remind you, you were proclaiming something(s) that has never originated with the church at all. So if we are to apply the false prophet claim, it can and will be directed to you. Deuteronomy 18:20-22 - [20] But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ [21] And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— [22] when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him. Matthew 7:15-20 - A Tree and Its Fruit - [15] “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. [16] You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. [18] A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. [19] Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus you will recognize them by their fruits. So with the verses you provided and your claims mentioned above - what can someone say about you, granted Christians are prophets who profess by means of spiritual gifts and clearly not by miraculous gifts that inspired prophets have, in this regard, what can you say about yourself, who knowingly made such claims in response? Clearly you are not one and although I tend to be strict, as I told you before, I see you as someone misguided and a small spark of hatred in you and haven't even pushed the claim you make towards your counterparts - demonic influence (especially with the verse regarding Satan doing God's bidding, according to your previous interpretation). Someone who continues to stumble and eat and believe the words of even those who speak conspiracy and someone, you, who remains ignorant of the view of early Christians and the early Church, even going as far as to seclude all of them by hold focus to one, and being clearly one-sided about it. Stand back up because as I see it, you keep on falling to the ground on to yourself (Proverbs 24:16) That being said I suggest you think about who is a prophet and who is a false prophet because it remains in contradiction to what you have professed which, if we go by your understanding, puts you in that same category of one being a False Prophet. Now one thing for certain, to be brief of course, in religion, a false prophet is one who falsely claims the gift of prophecy or divine inspiration, or who uses that gift for evil ends. Often, someone who is considered a "true prophet" by some people is simultaneously considered a "false prophet" by others, even within the same religion as the "prophet" in question. Clearly I speak the truth in this matter and do not use books produce by them to justify a claim that is proven to be untrue, with evidence that even ranges back top the 1870s - it does not get any much clearer than that. After all you lead me to the very source of your information that even speaks of them as being inspired prophets when clearly they are not. ALL Christians who adhere to what is true are spirit led, they are not inspired and infallible - if you truly read the Bible, you'd realize that and what position you are in as a Christian. And yet they are still here, and they are clearly targets of Babylon, that is, if you are aware of everything regarding Christianity that took place from the 2000s and onward, and what went down mid-2015 to now. People know who is on a conquest for peace. They know who is on the conquest for security. As a source of mine, Solider of God puts it, Christians who are unaware of these things, will easily be swept away by it, which such an example can be pinned on you as per our last discussions. For if Orderly Worship of the Church is vastly different from your view of what is Orderly, who's to say you yourself understand what the Kingdom is all about when you adhere to something that isn't of the Kingdom - should we take such route if need be? So what of the current JWs who are on this forum right now, the ones who also make a response to you? Unlike you, I have enough sense to understand what is right and what isn't right, I understand where someone is coming from and I am very aware of what is a false teaching, what is accursed, what is of the church or not. If you really want to help people know who God is, perhaps next time you would not be against what the Great Commission is all about, as per our last discussion, in doing so, you yourself put people in the Dark. As I told you before, in Bangkok, Thailand, there are people who has no idea what the bible is or who God is, some who do not even understand, as to what justice is in on your part to not spread the good news gospel and the Messianic Age? The Bible tells you to spread the message, even by means of a command, the Great Commission, why remain do the opposite when claiming to be a professes Christian, who is to spread the message? If it is anyone who is leading people in the dark, in all honesty, it will have to be you. Jesus gave you a command, and by following the Christ, you must adhere to that command. Jesus entrusted the church also to do the same and to bind and loosen, you should be very aware of such things. And lastly, you need to understand what the spiritual gifts are because if you do not know that Christians are like prophets for proclaiming the message, knowing they are spirit led, clearly you have to do more research and read more. That being said, understand what a false prophet is and who does fist that category, and perhaps re-think all the other things you said previously granted you added those verses of false prophets by your own hand. God's followers even in early ancient times make mistakes, but they are not false ones. As with us all today; for some of us learn, someone us stand back up and try to do what is right in God's eyes and apply and learn from the Scriptures as we progress into the End Times.

This guy? He reminds me of this guy Sean Connery.

Yes. Because in Scripture hands and or wrist [χειρῶν (cheirōn)] can sometimes be used, depending on translation also, but there is no issue. They both point to the same Greek Strong's accordance - Strong's 5495. It is a feminine plural so either using Hand or Wrist does not cause any violation of the Greek Strong's and only those who lack in this sense will not be able to see that. I saith, happy are who understand.

The doctrine of the Trinity is as followed: [1] There is one and only one God [2] God externally exists as 3 distinct and or co-equal persons. [3] The Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God [4] The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Father, the Father is not the Holy Spirit thus making up the Triune God. [5] The Father is not the Triune God, the Son is not the Triune God and the Holy Spirit is not the Triune God. According to their diagram, the Trinity states God exist in 3 distinct divine persons who are identical in essence, and co-eternal and co-equal in power. One thing to note they are not too far off from their Modalist and Oneness counterparts.