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    Space Merchant reacted to Matthew9969 in World Water Day: 2.1 billion people are living without safe drinking water and one after other town...   
    https://thewaterproject.org/
    My church works with this organization.
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    Space Merchant reacted to Anna in CHILD SEX ABUSE INVESTIGATORS MAY PROBE THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES   
    If they wanted to hide it, wouldn't it have been easier to not even document it? Or if it was documented, wouldn't it have been better to destroy it?
    There were no specific laws on how to handle child sexual molestation put in place by governments for a long time. It is relatively recently where governments have begun to investigate this problem in an effort to implement effective remedies.
    As far as I am aware Zalkin has many of the documents already, but has been ordered by the court to keep them confidential, and locked up. I am no lawyer but it's evidently not just a simple matter of handing over documents that's the problem. 
    How you think the GB apply this to pedophiles makes no sense. How would "hiding" the truth about pedophiles protect the organization? The principle of "hiding the truth from enemies" or from those "who had no right to know" was to protect lives. Pedophiles, just like any other Witnesses who are Witnesses in name only, bring shame to the org. but nobody is that naive to believe that these individuals do not exist within the org. and hopefully no one is that dumb to believe that such individuals are purposefully protected and shielded from punishment. 
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    Space Merchant reacted to TrueTomHarley in CHILD SEX ABUSE INVESTIGATORS MAY PROBE THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES   
    You know, it is hard for me to believe -  I mean, I grapple with it, but cannot escape the idea - and I specifically exclude @JOHN BUTLER from this and a handful of others who are right on top of the trees and so have not the best vantage point for contemplating the forest - that the true purpose of all condemnation of the GB's oversight is to slow down or, ideally, stop the preaching of the good news. 
    Beyond all question, that is the effect. It is hard for me to believe that is not also the intent
    That is not to say it is even the deliberate intent of those who weigh in critically - it is easy to get caught up in a cause. However the effect is undeniably to thwart what Jesus said at Matthew 24:14 or turn it into a bland nothing with no power.
    Maybe I am missing something, but If they say they abhor child sexual abuse, if they assembled every member in the world at Regionals to educate them in prevention, and if they have achieved a prevention record 10 times that of anyone else, I do not see how they can be portrayed as the villains. I just don't. Temporarily lost footing in a windstorm - perhaps - but by no stretch of the imagination villains.
    I see it as an overall attack on the spread of the good news, made by persons or entities desperate that it not be told, no different in principle than the Russian ban, where sexual abuse charges played absolutely no role at all.
    That is not to say that the flashpoint is bogus, but only that it is being pumped up beyond all reason.
    There is something in the air of this system of things to tear down anything that is an accomplishment. Mark Zuckerberg had better step very carefully, for there are some who would crucify him in the afermath of Cambridge Analytica. Did anyone read his apology in its entirety and not just sound bytes that are selected to further differing agendas of those who report it? It sure sounded genuine to me - he says he does not deserve our business if he cannot do better - and responsible, and he immediately launched corrective measures.
    It is not enough. It will never be enough. Read how he is being reviled. He will apologize to his grave and it will not satisfy those who do not like him or Facebook.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Foreigner in CHILD SEX ABUSE INVESTIGATORS MAY PROBE THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES   
    I do not believe John Butler is an agent and or servant of Satan, for I have truly seen people who are pawns of Satan and have challenged them before, nor do I believe Witness is either - for these two are quite far from it and real servants of Satan are very obvious, an example would be the Cemetery incident with Christians vs Satanist  a Minnesota, the abortion protesting, and the Black Mass temples to mock Christians. However, both of them are simply on the wrong path and going about the situation the wrong way, one of them even has accepted and or given himself up to the likes of conspiracy while at the same time believes that the Father and the Son would want that.
    Sadly, a good man or a good woman may think they are in the right, but the tragedy is, they do not see what is going on behind the blindfold they have on their faces and others who see them will only see that their works is not good and not smart. 
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Nana Fofana in CHILD SEX ABUSE INVESTIGATORS MAY PROBE THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES   
    Same, but there is a group in particular that cannot be challenge, reasoned with or given the gospel to because it is a high risk of death and or risk of being killed, and far too great for even the Jehovah's Witnesses (for any JW, any faith for that matter, of those areas speak of what this vile group is and warn people on being careful) - for people can and will be victim to such. The influence and or power is deemed literal and real, especially in parts of Africa, and areas in the Caribbean like Cuba, Haiti, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, etc, possibly surpassing even that of Satanist in the US. In addition to that, I remember speaking to a church youth group who had quite the frightening night in one area, and they deem themselves very lucky to be alive, but still haunted of what they had witnessed, for as they put it, on one side there is God and all that is good, and on the other side of the spectrum there is evil and darkness, which just happens to be literal for them that night.
    Other groups (they are basically connected to each other by companies, banks and families, etc), slightly differ from the one mentioned above because literal outlandish things they cannot do, however, these groups and entities of Babylon the Great literally believe that if they please demons, they will be rewarded, if they please Satan the Devil, they will be given power and control, this includes child sacrifice, in the realm of Child Abuse that even Law and authorities will not attack so often because they play a role in this too even protect such persons and left the children for dead, there was a video in this regard but it was taken down about a year ago, for they played their cards by using companies and powerful men, and have spread into the inhabitants across the globe, which to some seem like crazy talk, but it is the reality.
    That being said, Political Powers coupled with religious Evangelicals that support them (example, their support in Kurds who in turn handed Christians over to Terrorists) are real agents that are a threat to the good Christian people. But people tend to not pay attention to this stuff like I have and a few handful of others, an example would be with what just took place recently with the US and Saudi Arabia - which is indeed fact and true of the information that is present.
    It is one of the reasons Witness was in error in his past post about CTR and or lacking understanding of what is true and what is false, for these groups today target JWs still, and other Christians outside of the mainstream and not be noticed at all. With that in mind, I advise people to be careful, for a blind person can easily be in subjection to what is unknown.
    For these guys can't be be recognized at all by anyone unless you put two and two together with what is true.
    Scary to those who are new to these things, vigilant is the one who is aware of what it is and what is to take place.
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    Space Merchant reacted to Vic Vomidog in CHILD SEX ABUSE INVESTIGATORS MAY PROBE THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES   
    that is just the way I like it, parrot fashion.
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    Space Merchant reacted to Matthew9969 in Why won't they announce the reason for disfellowshipping or disassociation?   
    You must make a living on doing this.
     
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from JW Insider in CHILD SEX ABUSE INVESTIGATORS MAY PROBE THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES   
    The data is evident on those who do such things, what opponents of the JWs or opponents of religion in general, do not understand is that they are creating a monster that they cannot tame, perhaps already running wild and about from the things I have seen and read, for they fail to see child abuse is all over and target a specific faith because of said faith suffering from child abuse who is obviously not immune to such things, now in regards to the United Kingdom, they will scream, rant and lose their minds on the problems the JWs are dealing with  child abuse on their end, but these same opponents will not bat an eye for the children affected by Rotherham Grooming Gang, the Haut de la Garenne, Newcastle sex rings, and a plethora of other groups and institutions with people of bad intent that have mingled among them without being noticed.
    This also goes for those who claim child abuse and attack Christianity and the Bible (some goes as far as to rip and burn it no matter the translation), or in this case, religion as a whole, so when one attacks a JW, a Unitarian, a Jew or a Muslim, etc, the blame will just automatically be pinned on religion regardless of the faith, some may have it bad than others and suffer from physical harm should they be targeted on the streets because of their faith, for at that point it won't be persecution, it will just be shear brutality on said person, and I am sure the Jehovah's Witnesses are aware of the early 1900s, for ever since the whole NFL kneeling thing, the history was talked about.
    Now, it is understandable, for those who do bad, we can't have anyone in the weeds, so to speak, but at the same time, to be brutal with a group and twisting scripture against them only contributes to bigger problems, something such persons cannot see, and only few people like me, you and others tend to be aware of people who do such things.
    For better solutions and better ways on dealing with child abuse has been throw out the window and people seem to stick to just attacking a religion for a problem that is weaved within the very land they walk on.
    The more the silliness continues, the more of the very people and their supports that were in Detroit a few years ago will only get stronger, and Christianity itself will decline further and religion will be the subject of targeting more and more as the days go by.
    As for the prevention rate, even with facts before them, they will ignore it sadly - someone brought this up elsewhere and the anti-religion crowd just attacked and ignored the information, for they were not targeting JWs, they were targeting religion as a whole, which is somewhat evident today that most religious people tend not to be aware of at times. I was once told, you can give a sick man medicine for his illness, but he will ignore it and not accept it, even though it can help in dealing with his pain, in this sense, even with facts you provide, they'll ignore and not accept it, and continue on a warpath without having better solutions and ways of going about the issue of child abuse - going as far as to twist fact to tickle the ears of the masses to join the same foolish cause when others are doing it the right and correct way in gunning for the problem at hand and not a specific group of persons.
    That being said, my opinion, as do most, the best way to really prevent child abuse in most cases if faced with it as best as we can is just to educate the child and or parents, friends, relatives, etc. This has been the case with one of the victims in the JWs in regards to the ARC due to Watchtower articles on child abuse revealing to her what it actually is, and even outside of the Watchtower, this is the position that people have taken, which is smart. Such has helped some people learn about the issue that others have gone as far as to make thousands of videos on this subject for saying at least one child is a plus on anyone's part for educating someone on child abuse be it videos, articles, or verbally, and the like, for when a child is taught on the issue they can identify the signs of child abuse should it starts on them or someone they know.
    But what to expect by people living in a box, not taking the moment or even having a mere thought of looking and or stepping out of the box for once - that is today's society for you.
    They'll continue to do what they do instead of talking with the person, they will attack them and or their faith because of said subject, child abuse, and never, not even once (surprisingly), you have seen someone come to common ground on the issue at hand and what can be taught or learnt. Only one time when 3 people stepped up, they were attacked by opponents of the faith, the very man whom got a group of people to seek out and dislike, bash, insult these individuals. I believe John had posted of whom I speak, for the gofundme link was a direct link to who this British man is.
    One day it is going to come to a point where someone is going to get hurt via influence opponents will spread in public and or online, and surprisingly some have speculated that was the case regarding a hate crime in the UK - but later down the road, who knows how worse it could get, since religion, well in this case, Christianity is not as fancied by some as it was before.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from JW Insider in CHILD SEX ABUSE INVESTIGATORS MAY PROBE THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES   
    That Jehovah's Witnesses do not vote, take sides in the realm of politics and will not submit to taking part in Russia's events of glorifying violence such as the Victory Day Parades held by Russia every year, for the Kremlin considers Jehovah's Witnesses as a threat the reasons why the French NGOs and Alexander along with the Russian Church all pitched in to get them banned by twisting that Yarovaya Law, therefore over the years, Russia controlled media will slander and attack JWs every chance they get. Ironically, the ban took place after both the Pope Francis visit and Cyrill's trip to Antarctica to, as he puts it, to receive "Spiritual Power", then came the mass protesting, the ban on JWs, the arrest of well over thousands of people, The Alexei Navanly Troop and the extremist finger pointing as well as the bible itself will make you a target and subjected to arrest should Russia police and or FSB take action against you. JW kids have been abused by other children, verbally, as well as professors in school because of their faith and the fact that they do not partake in political events in Russia or join the army, which explains the situation in Russian controls Crimea. JWs and suppose opponents of the Kremlin are being watched everyday, even stalked regardless of the age group, even if a crime is done to them and or a child is abuse by someone from the outside, the FSB will not really do much, by chance Russian police will react when information of violent abuse is reported, but nothing would be done.
    The website that they track people with is using a device called FindFace which can literally find anyone within the Russian social media space, for the software itself makes Edward Snowden blush. such a thing can easily be abuse and has been used by creepy people on the internet who tend to use the power of that software to located people, specifically track down women. The FSB has taken hold of this software and used it again, exploited it to benefit themselves and the Kremlin, and had used it to hunt down protesters, Navanly Heroes, but, they had a separate site that track people of religious affiliations, specifically those outside of the Russian Orthodox Church such, including Jehovah's Witnesses, Muslims, the Non-Orthodoxy, Hindis, in addition to tracking down Homosexuals, for if anyone caught by the FSB, especially in Chechnya, it will not end well for the person.
    I manage to find one of the sites, this was was originally .ru, but they changed it and replaced it with the .com version, for the .ru ones can't be found anymore because it is either blocked or the address had been changed, but this is the idea of how they track people, posting their information to the public, and prior to the JW ban, the people listed on that site had been, well on the .ru versions, hunted down and dealt with.
    http://jesuismaidan.com (the original .ru one does not exist anymore so the link is just but an example of its former self, the one that targets religion and homosexuals have had their address changed)
    Of course a good idea made by very smart and intellegent minds, there will be those who will take said idea and turn it into a weapon:
     
    Now in regards to not taking part in political and military service, youth of the JW faith are normally attacked verbally by peers and professors of a school, in addition to such increasing against them when it came to the events in Russia known as Victory Day Parades, as some called it, a day of glorifying violence and or military might – nationalism, as well:
    The usual portrayal of JWs in Russia, other videos have been removed and or turned private while the ????? and ?????? 24 to name a few are several of Russian Kremlin controlled media outlets, but this is but an example of what I speak of in regards of slandering someone's faith – other than that the Duma has also made hundreds of new laws prior to the ban that blocks broadcasting of real news information, reasons why some people in Russia trust and are lucky to find the RFERL for they are independent media: 
     
    Mixing of actual footage and false footage of JWs in Russia, done so by the hands of the Russian mainstream media: 
     
     
    But yeah this is RFERL, among the many independents who actually speak truth on what is going on in Russia, despite parts of them being blocked by the Duma laws for some time now: https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-election-violations/29109634.html
     
    But yeah, other then that, nearly anyone prior to the decision on the JWs were subjected to arrest and or branded as enticing hate and or extremism - sadly all part of the plan just so the Kremlin can continue to control and take power, Navalny being made a fool of despite him exposing the Kremlin and at this rate he will end up like Nemstov.
    accused of extremism and being arrested applies to anyone, even children to be taken away for hours, days, perhaps months (could not find the original, again half these things are removed even the news articles):
     
    For if Russia can get away with that, due to the child abuse situation in all faiths including JWs, others can do the same and get away with it sadly, an obvious instance would be comparing child abuse in the JW faith to the far dark and more sinister UK underground of child abuse ran by the people with big pockets in the United Kingdom.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from JW Insider in CHILD SEX ABUSE INVESTIGATORS MAY PROBE THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES   
    The Russia ban issue is far deeper and more complex than one realizes, I brought this up before here, especially to Robert in one of the threads. What is a key element in all this is the recent election of Vladimir Putin, which was expected by some, as well as those who didn't like how Russia was going down a Soviet Era like path. At this point for Jehovah's Witnesses, it will not end well for them there, JW opponents think of the ban as a victory, but what they didn't realize is what went down 2014 and onward regarding the Kremlin, the Duma, and the Russian Church, and how, hellish things are going to get for the Russian people - which has already spawn conspiracy.
    Just know that regarding the ban of JWs, other parities were also involved, an example would be France, specifically NGOs of France in combination with Alexander Dvorkin, Patriarch Cyrill, and a number of other key players among the Kremlin and the Duma, in addition to how the JWs have proven to be an inconvenience to the Kremlin weeks prior to the election.
    Speaking about Child Abuse, it is also ironically as to how no one speaks of the child abuse done to JW children in Russia by opponents, but apparently no one bats an eye about it.
    That being said, this is a reminder for me to delve back into the Russian part of media again, for now since Putin has been re-elected, there is bound to be new information.
     
    Other then that, it is unlikely you would hear anyone talking about JW children being abused by people outside of their faith or how now they'll be treated, which is being talked about by Orthodoxy and Non-Orthodoxy Christians in Russia who didn't like what was done to the JWs.
    In short, it will not be a good time for anyone who is not on the side of the Kremlin, the RoC and the Duma. I know JWs do not do politics, but these leaders will be somewhat of a obstacle for them in Russia - perhaps prove more of a threat to Americans also. If you can be jailed and marked as an extremist for making a joke, being a poet or playing Pokemon, it will only continue to get far worse from that, and it will get bad for the JWs. But seeing they pushed through the Soviet days, endurance is key for them, and surprisingly the hundreds of protesters who were taken down by the Kremlin notice who the JWs are and how they endured in those days.
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    Space Merchant reacted to JOHN BUTLER in Jehovah's Witnesses Child Abuse / Pedophilia and the Governing body.   
    @TrueTomHarley @Space Merchant The ARC was only one country. In Canada the Superior Court of Quebec was looking to proceed with a class action lawsuit in September 2017. I don't have any update on that. In the Netherlands 'Reclaimed Voices' foundation has set up way for victims to contact them and it seems they have had 250 responcies... In the UK the Charity Commision has an ongoing investigation, which the JW Org tried to stop but did not succeed. The IICSA, it seems, will probably also do an investigation, although they seem to be very busy dealing with others at the moment.... Then we have the USA, but after the two (rather famous now) victims received big payouts I've no idea if the GB has to hand over the documents or not. What I'm saying here is, it's not all about the ARC.
    I cannot understand the attitude of TTH, yes prevention is of course very important. But surely it would help in many ways to see how previous cases were handled. As I've experienced such things I know that the memories last a lifetime, so if it can be proved that the JW Org was negligent, then aren't victims due some sort of compensation ? And I'm not talking being paid millions to keep their mouth shut. 
    Lessons could be learnt from past dealings to help stop future abuse. Rules could be changed within the Org to make it a safer place. 
    SM, people may care about statistics, but I'm more concerned about what God cares about. I think you are coming at this from a different viewpoint. My thoughts are, if the JW org is really God's chosen organisation, then God wants it clean. God is not interested in a percentage, He wants clean. He wants, separate from the world, and a much much higher standard. So to compare to any other peoples is of no importance. It is only important to compare the JW Org to God's standards. How are the JW Org comparing to what God expects of them ? 
    You said 'targeting a group will not reap any fruit because it will spawn comments, insult and reproach to God... ' You see how you are coming at it from a different angle ?  I'm not targeting a group. I'm interested in seeing, what is supposed to be God's chosen people, try harder to serve God properly and clean up their Organisation, and help their brothers and sisters.
      
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    Space Merchant reacted to TrueTomHarley in CHILD SEX ABUSE INVESTIGATORS MAY PROBE THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES   
    I am beginning to come around to NB's point of view. 
    They DO owe us more.
    If you drill into the data (and this is discussed on the other thread - opposers have seen fit to start not just one, but TWO, simultaneous threads - it becomes evident that Jehovah's Witnesses have a greater prevention rate of child sexual abuse ten-fold over that of anyone else!
    Imagine. Ten times the success rate of others! THIS is the fact that should be highlighted for members that need or want to know and in not doing this they are being let down. 
    They are letting the enemies frame the entire argument. They should not do this.
    Now - techically it is inaccurate to say they have ten times the success rate of prevention than anyone else. They have ten times the success rate of the general population. Who is to say how they stack up to the Baptists or the Adventists or the atheists or the - anyone? There is no way to tell, because nobody else dared touch these figures. Obviously chlld sexual abuse occurs everywhere - just tune in the TV news to convince yourself - but nobody else cared or dared to look into their own membership with a view of uncovering and disciplining the evil actions within their own organization!
    Thus whenever anyone else is charged with child sexual abuse, their rellgion is never a factor - it is never reported (unless they are clergy)The Witness organization fails its members by not pointing this out. How did there come to be a "pedophile list" in the first place? It is a consequence of internal church disciple so as to present to God a clean people that the Bible says he demands. EVERYONE should have done this and NOBODY did. THAT is the fact that should be highlighted endlessly.
    By not doing this, they have reduced good solid loyal members to saying: "well - we don't like child sexual abuse either - really, we don't." That is why I appreciate @AllenSmith, abrasive though he is. He does not fall into this trap. He does not let those who hate Jehovah's Witnesses assume the higher moral ground. He tirelessly points out why they do not deserve it. Every once in a while he goes too far and he is tossed out on his ear. (though I have never heard of this happening to his opponents who can be equally outlandish) But he dusts himself off, alters the spelling of his name, and rejoins the fray.
    Bethel should not let the haters of Christian organization frame their 'reality' in preferance of the one which is far more important. Why are they doing it? My guess is that they are like deer caught in the headlights. They are decent, honest men - not oily manipulators - and they are dumbfounded that a deed with such good motive should be portrayed as so foul.
    What are they guilty of anyway? There is a reason for the expression "skeletons in the closet." It is the universal human instinct to keep them there. They were slow to realize that the new imperitive is to stampede them through Dodge City. They have never said members should not go to outside authorities should they become aware of abuse. It is at most presiding over a culture in which people are reluctant to air dirty laundry in public because they try to represent something very high and they are loathe to sully it by advertizing when they contrary conduct in their midst. These days elders positively urge families to report to authorities when they come across an instance of it only to find not everyone want to be on the 11 News as the home of Today's Pervert. If it is not mandated by law, you cannot make them, nor can you go over their head and do it yourself. This is why Bro Jackson pleaded to make it mandatory accorss all territories because it would "make out job so much easier."
    They have to deal with what really is the smaller picture, which is being done, while they steadfasting make sure the greater picture is in sharp focus: a prevention rate that is ten times that of the general population.
    Seen in this light, if there are to be more inquiries in other countries, parallel to what the ARC has done, and those who hate Witnesses are wetting themselves in anticipation, I say Bring It On! 
    Let each one of them establish what the ARC did - that Jehovah's Witnesses are head and shoulders above others in preventing child sexual abuse. Let the sole victory of the opposers be to say: "Well - well - well, they're not perfect, are they?"
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Nana Fofana in CHILD SEX ABUSE INVESTIGATORS MAY PROBE THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES   
    Aside from UK JWs investigation, they must also dealing with other groups who act under the radar, the no so religious ones, who literally take children underground or in expensive and private locations, to molest, torture and sometimes kill their child victims, at times, the child of the victims, born into this world, who are subjected to satanic sacrifice before they even have 1 month of life, which takes place right under the noses of the people of UK and the government, especially the likes of  PM, Theresa May.
    I do not see why people tend to think child abuse itself is isolated within a single religious group, or just merely religion as a whole, for such is everywhere.
     
    That being said, I had some sources I would have posted here regarding the UK as a whole, but the 1984 troop has wiped out that information a few days ago.
     
    All in all, it will be the same as everything else in terms of the abused and the abuser.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Matthew9969 in Why won't they announce the reason for disfellowshipping or disassociation?   
    Was it that necessary to grave dig a 2016 thread when it is March 17, 2018, to be specific a thread posted March 25, 2016 (about 722 days), with a small comment? It would not have been much of an effort to simply contact the user via pm messaging: https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/profile/5857-γιαννης-διαμαντιδης/
    or wait until said user of this thread gives an update.
    Don't let that happen again, for in doing so makes any comment without an update from the creator of the thread, obsolete and or irrelevant, especially if a person who didn't make this thread says something vague.
    What is gravedigging?
    Gravedigging is the term we use for reviving inactive threads the name is fitting, because you're basically just digging up things that are long gone.
    Why is gravedigging so bad?
    Why exactly shouldn't you gravedig? It's pretty simple: Reviving old threads clutters the forum. If everyone went ahead and posted on threads from a while ago, newer threads would struggle to appear from beneath the threads of old nonsense. If one person revives an old thread, other people end up posting on it too. Those members will continue to bump an old thread, advertising it to even more potential posters. Often, an inactive thread will contain outdated information on a particular topic. We want to make sure that you're getting all the updates you need, and so avoiding bringing up older threads is best.
    How can I tell if I'm about to gravedig a thread?
    Knowing when you might be about to gravedig a thread is important. There might even be times where you avoid posting on a thread because you're worried about gravedigging it when it's actually okay. The age cutoff, when a thread goes from being active to inactive, is currently two weeks If a thread is on the first page of a section, you may post on that thread without being at risk of gravedigging, regardless of the age cutoff. If a thread is not on the first page of a section but has not yet reached the age cutoff, you may post on that thread without being at risk of gravedigging. You may also post on guides/tutorials, regardless of activity, without being at risk of gravedigging as long as you're posting something constructive, and not something like "great guide" etc. Pinned threads and staff members are also immune from gravedigging. In a nutshell, you can post on any thread that was last active under two weeks ago, and you can also post on threads that were not active under two weeks ago as long as they're on the first page of a section.
    This also goes for ignoring Search Bars, in some cases.
    Source
    https://www.rtsoft.com/forums/showthread.php?26209-Spamming-And-Gravedigging-Explained
    Information on this can also be Goggle'd on the Internet regarding ALL forums known on the internet.
    Remember this, please, for if this was elsewhere, the CSE Christian Community forums, you would have been in a world heavy criticism for pulling that off there.
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    Space Merchant reacted to TrueTomHarley in Jehovah's Witnesses Child Abuse / Pedophilia and the Governing body.   
    The authorities who must view child porn in the course of doing their jobs liken it to Medusa: "One look and you turn to stone"
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    Space Merchant reacted to Matthew9969 in Why won't they announce the reason for disfellowshipping or disassociation?   
    Sounds like this man is not sinning, just wants to worship God.
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    Space Merchant reacted to TrueTomHarley in Jehovah's Witnesses Child Abuse / Pedophilia and the Governing body.   
    Two years ago a report said:
    “in family courts throughout the [United States], evidence that one of the parents is sexually or physically abusing a child is routinely rejected. Instead, perpetrators of abuse are often entrusted with visits or joint or sole custody of the children they abuse.”
    Read it here:  https://www.salon.com/2016/12/11/custody-in-crisis-how-family-courts-nationwide-put-children-in-danger/
    but don't read it unless you are prepared to get very sad and very angry
    The point is that the ones you hang out with online will have you believe that "handling an child sexual abuse case properly" is key to protecting children. Read the report and you will read case after case where it turned out to be exactly the opposite - reporting it to the authorities led to more abuse of the child, sometimes at the cost of its life.
    This accusation is too stupid to countenance. How can you be so dumb?
    So you have put your trust in the human system of courts as the ones who see justice from God's viewpoint! Is your confidence in human justice as strong after reading how the family courts routinely screw up what is put in their lap?
    One lesson to be learned is to value the conscience and godly devotion of the GB that has maintained an organization that is 90% less likely to originate cases of abuse that the courts may screw up when it is handed over to them. Bizarrely, you seem to not care at all about this. You seem to delight in the prospect of taking down the people who have ten times the success rate in prevent child sexual abuse in the first place. Seen in this light, it is YOU who are a friend of child sexual abuse. YOU malign the people who best prevent it in favor of a human justice system that may protect children after the event or may screw them up even worse.
    Legal tactics and the court system have been discussed at length on other threads so I will not revisit them here. Go there and look them up. However, in a nutshell, might there be a reason that the Society has not quickly kowtowed to a given legal demand? I think you said it yourself:
    They certainly have been previously - on a nationwide scale - as evidenced by the Salon article, despite the fact that you appear to have absolute confidence in them.
    You are hanging out with single-issue people, and single-issue people of any stripe will distort your world view. Single-issue people usually become those who 'cannot see the forest for the trees.' You are particularly vulnerable to this (more on this later, perhaps) by reason of being an abuse victim yourself.
    Because we are in the last days (I fear you are already walking back on this) there are literally thousands of atrocities to choose from and each of them generates its own batch of single-issue people - usually the ones who have suffered acutely due to that issue. To focus on one so intently so as not to appreciate anything else will only mess you up.
    I am writing a book on the persecution of our brothers in Russia. The media is rabid against Witnesses there, and reports against them all the time. One typical article slanders them non-stop, as low beings who “wet in the toilet,” would “clog your brains,” do “dark things through Jehovah,” and as to your money, they would have you “give the last.” The Supreme Court has ruled that parents can be stripped of parental rights for involvement of children in the sect. 79% of all Russians agree with this. (it has not been reported as happening yet, but the legalities are in place)  Apostates were very active as prosecution witnesses, in full knowledge that they might be sending family members to jail, and certainly their former friends. This, even though pedophile accusations are not at all a concern over there - they have plenty of others.
    https://og.ru/society/2017/10/23/92255   (use AI to translate)    and
    http://www2.stetson.edu/~psteeves/relnews/171204d.html
    My point is that you, over time, will come to agree with them fully. We are who we hang out with. You say you are conducting a fine investigation as to who really has the truth. I would say to wrap that up quickly if you can because the time's they are a 'changing.
    You have spoken of the pain of abuse, of how current victims might be helped, and how you prayed and got nothing. These are worthwhile points. If you can avoid for a time rolling with the pigs who would accuse the GB of sponsoring child sexual abuse even though they prevent it to a degree ten times better than your current heroes, I will address those things.
    If you cannot, I will throw up my hands and say he has chosen his new family - he is fully vested. He has volunteered to be a lieutenant of the army of kings of the earth attacking with the beast. He is a 'reformer' and since they will not reform on his terms, he will see them destroyed. Time is not unlimited. No sense in spending time trying to dislodge his grip, for he just tightens it further.
     
     
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Nana Fofana in Jehovah's Witnesses Child Abuse / Pedophilia and the Governing body.   
    With all do respect, this link you posted about this man, Neil Gardner, also known as the TheGreatApostate, was one of the very people who verbally attacked and insulted, in addition to leading an attack on 3 people on YouTube and Media, one of them who intervened on November 5th of 2017 prior to the protest in Warwick. The blame was pinned on JWs, however, only until Neil and the others rooted out this man, in addition to 2 others who lived in the Passiac and Orange county who defended him and the JWs for they were against church raiding and disruption, with Neil being among those who was on the attack.
    I wouldn't use him as an example for even after the situation at Warwick, he spoke of the London event, which was not sitting well with others who are neutral with JWs or Christianity itself.
    I spoke of this several months ago in a thread started by someone here in regards to the JW church disruption.
     
    Mind you, the actions of the EX JWs didn't sit well with the non JW churches in the area, they backed out when the EX JWs called them up to help them out, for clearly the Christian churchgoers were nowhere to be seen before the videos were taken down.
    The  former Jehovah's Witnesses, and again as to what I have said previously, pedophiles (article spelled paedophile instead of pedophile) will infiltrate groups and sway their way into a position or trust with the people in order to feed their own sick desires. When the abuse became known the authorities were notified and the authorities took action based on the crime.
    In addition to that, this was easily zeroed in to that specific congregation of church members in London, hence the victims.
    In the end, the abuser has been dealt with.
    The situation can't stop nor will it go away. Pedophilia is rooted deep within our imperfections, the price of our early parents - for we know pedophilia is bad, and we also know it is a major mental illness that has an unknown root of origin, hence why pedophiles who know of their problem seek out aid from those trained in such field of study.
    But yes, I agree on some things, for no group, organization, as well as the people in such groups, be it educational, religious, institutions, etc, no one is perfect nor can they strive to be perfect, what they can only do is do their best to minimize anything brewing among them and that's that.
    For the day violence, sexual immorality, wars, death, etc come to an end, as well as the ending of child abuse that is on a global scale, it will be the day when all that is bad will be wiped out and hat is good shall remain for time indefinite.
    In the mean time, there are people who stick to what is true and endure, as sad it may seem, endurance in truth is what keeps the people going, as for others who know the JWs tend to be strictly neutral with them - for any group that came out of the Second Awakening that continues to push closer to what is true even though at times they stumble, such groups like this some Christians do not attempt to bash or attack because in the end our actions is what God will see, for such actions can lead some to do drastic things, and eventually hatred, like the one who has posted that gofundme. For no one is going to go that far to take out a group and take out Christianity itself (which is happening in the UK and Asia).
    That being said, all of us have to trend carefully, and endure because in the end, salvation can be easily be lost - we need to stand back up and keep walking and keeping ourselves in check and being careful as well as those around us.
    In the end however, it is mainly the laws and the government that needs to be checked too, in some parts of the US, child grooming and marriage legal now, which will spawn far more pedophiles than one can realize. So the unchecked pedophiles that do not get their vile desires met in schools or religion, they will jump on this now legal opportunity, which spells danger for far more children in the states.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Nana Fofana in Jehovah's Witnesses Child Abuse / Pedophilia and the Governing body.   
    What people need to realize is religious child abuse can't be stopped, in some cases it can be prevented a bit, especially in an imperfect world where child abuse and other vile acts run rampant and at times it is deemed "normal" by the general society, something people will find it hard to realize sadly. I, as a Unitarian, know that our denomination isn't immune to the likes of child abuse as well, with some being caught off guard of when it happens or the aftermath of it.
    But Child Abuse in general is far worse in the UK, regardless of institution, and a majority of the abuse is done by a male, mostly a family man and or relative who does such things. I believe there was a bust on a pedophilia ring right under the noses of UK officials (obviously the corrupt among law enforcement and officials take part in the child abuse): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/11/1000-children-may-have-victims-britains-biggest-ever-child-abuse/
    There were some grime things going on with that with children purposely being killed and or sacrificed, as they say.
    https://www.nspcc.org.uk/services-and-resources/research-and-resources/statistics/
    I got more information, even videos of investigation in regards to child abuse (mental also with what the victim had to say), but it may seem a bit disturbing for some here -  for the victims spoke of not just child abuse, but the killing of other children and human and or animal sacrifices. This also includes some things in the US, which has not really be talked about.
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    Space Merchant reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Does the Governing Body live on-campus or off-campus?   
    When they make trees of "E Pluribus Unum", I will then go out and endeavor to  prune 'em.
     
     
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    Space Merchant reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Jehovah's Witnesses Child Abuse / Pedophilia and the Governing body.   
    Back when dueling was legal, Fathers often solved the problem without a lot of discussion.
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Nana Fofana in Does the Governing Body live on-campus or off-campus?   
    Yes, but what you need to pay attention to is what Jesus said prior to his words, of what he is quoting from "It is Written" For the very law itself of which Jesus quoted is in the Hebrew Old Testament, the Tanakh, but specifically in the Torah, of which a majority of the laws of which every born Jew followed from their youth into adulthood, and into their elderly life.
    Majority of Christians, even a few newbie Jehovah's Witnesses, tend to not be aware of such things, and when one becomes aware of this, they recognize that Jesus, was a born Jew under the law, and I have said this before, and I will quote what the Law met to Jesus.
    For if the people knew God and they knew the Christ, they know of whom they are to religiously worship with total and exclusive devotion, for God not only said this, for it is, again embedded in the Torah.
    The law was ridiculously important to Jesus and when he quotes, speaks of the law, he means it.
    Galatians 4:4 reads: But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law (see Matthew 5:17)
    In addition to that, in the Greek New Testament, Jesus conversed with scribes, and he spoke of the law, in regards to the commandants in the gospel of Mark, which what Jesus speaks of what is written is straight out of the Torah.
    Again proskuneos, for even in other translations, to bow down, to worship, to honor, pay homage, show reverence, adorn, etc. as I said before on this word.
    The man did not bow down to show an act of religious worship, he showed an act of reverence to the Son of Man, for if he religiously worshiped Jesus then it would destroyed what was written entirely of the very laws of which the Jews had followed since the days of Moses - if the Son is standing before them, surely they wouldn't do such, turning away from religiously worshiping him over the God of Israel, the Father of the very man who has been sent.
    If you had Jesus on your left side, and Yahweh/Jehovah on your right side, to whom you show worship in terms of ,adoration, reverence, homage, honor to and to whom you show religiously exclusive worship, great praise, servitude to?
    The answer would be quite obvious, but anyways, John 9 will not do you much, for majority of Christians agree that proskuneos has several meanings, and that it should not be abused to support the doctrine of religious Jesus worship instead of God the Father.
    For Yahweh/Jehovah is the Father of our Lord and Savior and a number of times Jesus even said it clearly that Yahweh is indeed his God and his Father.
    John 20:17 - Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
    You can't be serious... That is one of the oldest tricks some Christians will pull to justify something - in this case, devoted religious worship to Jesus instead of the Father, Yahweh.I wouldn't say if they stopped him or not, for if you understood how translators did this, they fit proskuneo with worship, and those who do not see scripture or put themselves in the mindset of those who lived in those days, they will easily confuse themselves, identifying the word worship in regards to religious worship. This was the same case in Luke chapter 24 (more detailed in Acts 1), with Pentecost taking place in Acts 2.
    And no, the NWT isn't the only one who uses other words that reflect proskuneos, let's not be hypocritical here. I have listed about several bibles in another thread in regards to proskuneos, and I will gladly re-post them here.
    John 9:38
    Twentieth Century New Testament (TCNT)-1898-1901
    Then, Sir, I do believe," said the man, bowing to the ground before him;
    Good News Translation (GNT)- [1966-1976]
    "I believe, Lord!" the man said, and knelt down before Jesus.
    Aramaic Bible in Plain English (ABP)- 1905-1997
    But he said, “I believe, my Lord”, and falling down, he worshiped him.
    God's Word Translation (GWT)- [1995]
    The man bowed in front of Jesus and said, "I believe, Lord."
    Douay-Rheims Bible (DRB)-[1582] 
    And he said: I believe, Lord. And falling down, he adored him.
    Darby Bible Translation (DBT)- [1867, with revised editions in 1872 and 1884]
    And he said, I believe, Lord: and he did him homage.
    Weymouth New Testament (WNT)- [1903]
    "I believe, Sir," he said. And he threw himself at His feet.
    Young's Literal Translation (YLT)- [1862]
    and he said, 'I believe, sir,' and bowed before him.
    For the sake of the verse, I will post what it says in the NWT
    New World Translation (NWT)- [1984, revised 2013]
    He said: “I do put faith in him, Lord.” And he did obeisance to him.
    The list goes on, literally, in addition to those who put proskuneos in its place and or reverence, etc within said translations.
    For there are a lot of bible translations that will put worship and a lot more that will use a word that is related to proskuneos, but the question is where to use it, the right place to use it, etc, for a word placed in the wrong spot can easily shift false belief, examples like 1 Timothy 3:16, 1 John 5:7-8, etc.
    No verse, no matter the translation ever states that the man religiously gave devoted worship to Jesus, for the man simply did an act of proskuneos, be it honor, worship, obeisance, bowing down/to, homage, reverence, etc. That being said, I will not waste time putting information from both Hebraic and Greek Theologians and scholars on that word, for it is easily understood if one puts him or herself in the mindset of those in ancient days.
    Facts: in the NT by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication 
    ????????? (proskyne?/proskuneó) Greek Strong's #4352 - Short Definition: I worship Definition: I go down on my knees to, do obeisance to, worship.
    bow down (1), bow down before (1), bowed down (1), bowed down before (2), bowing before (1), bowing down (1), prostrated himself before (1), worship (32), worshiped (17), worshipers (1), worshiping (1), worships (1) from pros and kuneó (to kiss).
    Not really, I do not adhere to the KJV nor do I adhere to the NKJV (or any bible  that considers it's falsehood biblical canon, in addition to those that preach that uninspired verses are true), you'd be wise by now to know how I view such bibles, for I rely on bibles that stick to the oldest and most reliable sources possible, for the KJV and the NKJV stems far from this. For if anyone had noticed, I post more from the ESV bible in majority of my comments, sometimes from other translations, but most of the time, ESV.
    For you even seen my post towards Allen about Textual Criticism in regards to Mark 16, for 1-8 being inspired while verses 9-20 not being inspired, for such verses originated from the KJV translators, and such verses are nowhere to be found in the oldest source, reasons why some bibles today omitted such verses, and or restore some verses to its true meaning.
    You claim just now, assuming that I said the following: you felt the NKJV was the more accurate choice of translation of the Bible
    KJV/NKJV? Accurate??? Never...
    I welcome you to find where I said that and post it here, for everyone here knows my view of bible translations, what I use, and my strong opinions against the KJV/NKJV hence biblical hermeneutics and Textual Criticism scriptural facts, verse connection, and how important it is to stick to the oldest and most reliable source possible.
     
    As for religious worship and total servitude to God the Father:
    Exodus 20:3 - “You shall have no other gods before me.
    Exodus 34:14 - (for you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God),
    Deuteronomy 4:24 - For the Lord your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.
    Isaiah 42:8 - I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols.
    Matthew 4:10 - Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”
    Luke 4:8 - And Jesus answered him, “It is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.’”
    Mark 12:28-33 (speak of the Law found in the Torah/OT; Shema Ysirael in addition to the commandments)
    Laws found in the Torah (it is written)
    The Shema - Deuteronomy 6:4-13
    Deuteronomy 6:13 (included in the Shema Yisrael) - It is the Lord your God you shall fear. Him you shall serve and by his name you shall swear.
    Deuteronomy 10:20 - You shall fear the Lord your God. You shall serve him and hold fast to him, and by his name you shall swear.
    Jesus' exaltation, God making him Lord, giving him the name above every other name, putting Jesus at his right hand (as said in psalms 110:1), etc.
    I mean, the very title of this chapter by this writer in the NT even states the following - The Supremacy of God's Son
    Proskuneos is proskuneos, for none of the angels were ever told to religiously worship Jesus with total devotion.
    I refuted Cos on this weeks ago: 
     
    Negative, friend, Jesus isn't hidden from me because half the things I even said isn't being read by you, and every word and every post I make is 100% fact and true, especially in regards to scripture - and you assuming I said something which I have not said is a big error is , for a guy like me who has been against the errors in the KJV/NKJV since childhood, I would never turn my back and say such uninspired verses used in that bible is accurate, nor would I preach it as some do, or in this case, I would never state that such a bible is 100% for its practice of mixing inspired with uninspired to blind the masses, but here, no such words of me saying it is accurate is ever typed by me, for my view of the KJV/NKJV borderline Nazareth Vow levels, so to speak, if you know what that is.
    Anyways, I can easily correct how those last couple of verses you just posted without even taking into consideration of what they connect to, but I will spare you this time - unless you misuse verses and or mixing verses that do not connect with each other, or connecting things from scripture be it OT or NT when in reality they do not connect, which is some, for this goes for anyone. And knowing myself and experiences, I know what is true and what is false, and those who practice close to what is true vs those who adhere to what is false.
    For if Christ is hidden from me, I would not have been able to correct your wrongs, your errors, and the like, but if Christ is truly with you and you said I claim the NKJV is accurate, and I quote: You mentioned somewhere here, that you felt the NKJV was the more accurate choice of translation of the Bible.  Now, it appears you are leaning on the NWT when it suits you.  I find that rather interesting. - Witness
    I want you to be truthful about your words, to yourself, to everyone here, to Jesus, and to God the Father, who all are witnesses here and I want you to give direct proof of me saying that such things - if you cannot, then it is evident of whom Christ is truly hidden from.
    Do not expect to take parts of what I said and make it seem as I said such things, for I can easily pull up my comments from my history. I can tell you right now straight up, I do have a few typos elsewhere, but never would I acknowledge the KJV or the NKJV to be accurate, as you claim.
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    Space Merchant reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Does the Governing Body live on-campus or off-campus?   
    In context, these are actually the words of Robert Ringer, but I do recognize them as being valid.
    Unfortunately, the Society's Lawyers, who should be fighting for Truth, and Justice, and honoring Jehovah's Name and purposes, have the same attitude towards victims of institutionalized child sex abuse ... and fight the victims and pervert true JUSTICE to save money for their clients, whoever they might be.
    Actually, they are in a "Catch 22" situation ... they legally have a fiduciary responsibility to work in their employer's interests ... and Justice be damned .....
    ...and it is.
    The reasons Lawyers can swim in any ocean on Earth, and not fear being bitten by sharks ... is professional courtesy.
     
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    Space Merchant got a reaction from Nana Fofana in Does the Governing Body live on-campus or off-campus?   
    Very well, but it still doesn't help you here, for you have said the following: It is the name of Jesus Christ that should be placed in Rom 10:13
    For it is true and clear as to what is really means prior to translators changing it: everyone who calls on the name of the YHWH will be saved. Therefore, the JWs are not in error in regards to Romans 10:13, nor is anyone who restores YHWH to that verse, or those who know which "Lord" the verse is informing us about.
    As for your other response: And if He wants our attention to be focused on His Son as our Savior, then, we should call on him.
    Remember of what is said already: no one can come to Jehovah/Yahweh but through Jesus (John 14:6), and no other means has been given by Jehovah/Yahweh for salvation than the name of Jesus. (Acts 4:12). For believing in the Christ enables one to receive the gift of God's grace by means of his Son - the free and full forgiveness of sin(s) through Christ.
    Also every knows why Jesus is called "Lord" already, so what the early Christians said in 1 Corinthians 1:2 is correct - for they too know that God has made the Christ Lord the very day he resurrected the Christ - hence why they thank God for the Christ, in addition to the words of Isaiah, for this verse connects to.
    On the contrary they have, if you even took into account of what I just explained previously. proskuneo also means worship (http://biblehub.com/greek/4352.htm), as well as obeisance, honor, reverence, homage, bow to/down to, etc. The very word that Cos, an Anti-JW around here, didn't get through his head, hence the heavy refuting to each of  his response drove him away from this section of the forums, in addition to hims caught lying, for him using John 8:44 backfired on him.
    1 Corinthians 15 verses 27 and 28 does not imply of which you said in regards to the following: worship to Jesus is perfectly acceptable to God.
    You must remember as to why God subjected all things to him, and also strongly remember of what God had said in regards to religiously worship and servitude him, don't add to God's word, friend for the very account those verses are under is in regards to The Resurrection of the Dead (Risen Christ).
    Yes, we are to honor the Son, in turn honoring the Father, but as I told Cos before, taking away religious worship of the Father and doing such to the Son and he alone will only spell a not so pleasant response from God, for Jesus himself, he even taught it is God the Father we must worship, remember when you quoted the account of the Samaritan woman, same thing.
    You really need to be careful.
    In addition to that, verses 27 and 28 have several other verses that they connect to, which further disproves your claim.
    For Jesus' response to Satan was clear as the blue sky and the sea: ‘You shall worship the Lord [YHWH] your God and him only shall you serve. - Matthew 4:10 (see Deuteronomy 5:9, 6:13, 10:20 and Luke 4:8).
    That being said, when one considers "religious worship" be sure to know to whom you are showing this "religious worship" to. For the idea or practice of "religious worship" to God's Son, Jesus calls in the category of Arianism, which is still a belief that is practiced today.
    You really have to be careful and not take the word proskuneo with a grain of salt, for better understanding of what that word means will make you very well aware of the word and how it is used in scripture and where it is used, for many translations tend to just throw the word "worship" everywhere proskuneo is even found. For such a word have several meanings, one of which includes the word worship.
     
    Negative. I only focused on Romans 10:13 as well as other verses within chapter 10 - for you have stated the NWT was in error in regards to this verse, which is a false claim on your part. I have not ignored a book in the bible, nor have I ever done so in the decades of biblical study.
    "Kyrios" does refer to Jesus, however, it also does refer to God the Father as well, as do others - scriptural facts prove this also.
    Kyrios means Lord, which also relates to Sir, Master, Owner, etc.
    David was the Lord (Kyrios) of Israel. So we see, for example, that Yahweh was the Lord of Israel and David was the Lord of Israel (1 Kings 1:36). The authority structure with God and Jesus is exactly the same. God made David the Lord of Israel and now God has made David's son Jesus the Lord of all the world. We would not assume that David is Yahweh because God had made him Lord.
    Abraham is Sarah's Lord, so Sarah laughed to herself, saying, "After I have grown old, and my Lord is old, shall I have pleasure?" (Genesis 18:12; see 1 Peter 3:9). Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him "Lord" (1 Peter 3:6).
    The two angels came to Sodom in the evening and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he arose to meet them, and bowed himself with his face to the earth, and said, "My Lords, turn aside, I pray you, to your servant's house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise up early and go on your way."
    "Lords [Paul and Silas], what must I do to be saved? (Acts 16:31). There are numerous people in scripture who are called "Lord (Kyrios)." As we can see the word Kyrios isn't exclusive to Jesus or YHWH - but anyone can identity which "Lord" is which between the two.
    For in regards to Romans 10:13, "Lord" is a directly referring to God the Father, not Jesus - for Jesus had already been mention as Lord a couple verses prior to verse 13 and the one who saves is indeed the Father, for his grace by means of his Son allows forgiveness of Sin.
    Take a good look here: http://biblehub.com/greek/2962.htm
    Again - The Message of Salvation to All. Believing and saying that Jesus, the Risen Christ is Lord and believing in the One [YHWH] who has raised him from out of death.
    All of Romans 10 is based on the message of salvation that is for all, friend. Since you use bible gateway, you can see that for yourself clearly.
    As for the other verses, I am well aware of what Paul has said, as also him affirming something that Jesus followed to the core while he was in his youth.
    That being said, there is a big number of verses of which each verses has a connection to, with some pointing back to what I stated previously, thus such verses when read are harmoniously connected, as stated before.
    I suggest you re-check your verses. I am very well adept in scripture and what is and must be taught and the like, and know what is true and what is false. You are making a claims you will surely not cash, friend.
    For falsehood can clearly be seen by sheer discernment and or what one prompting what is false is saying, assumption or taking the word of an Anti-Christian isn't the best route to go, for it clouds judgement and brings forth falsehood.
    "The picking of bad fruits will reap the consequence of bad indigestion."
    For the same can be said for taking in something and automatically clinging to it without understanding and or taking what is true, thus consequence follows suit in regards to one's blindness.
    I do not know quite a bit, I am very well aware of who they are, what they teach, what is their belief, etc. I have spent a 5+ years understanding their faith, as with others such as other denominations as well as the likes of Islam and Judaism, as well as mainstream Christianity, the real Babylon to true faith in scripture. Unlike taking into account of YouTube videos made by obvious opponents of the JWs, I actually speak to them for quite some time to understand their view of scripture., and with enough study and the like, I understand of where they are coming from, for they are among those who are doing whatever it takes not only to imitate Jess' example but strive to do what the scriptures say no matter what.
    You can bring up whatever claim you wish, for what has been posted before is usually one sided, but I can assure you, there is more than enough proof, that puts most Christians on their side in seeking truth than against them.
    You'd be amazed of how some of their opponents will even want to end Christianity in the US just to get rid of JWs, it is a brutal threat, and it has been said before prior to their ban in Russia, with some who retaliate saying if such was done to them in the US, it will spell disaster to Christianity as a whole in America.
    It is also another reason why most of us remain totally, 100% neutral with JWs - because we know by scripture of how God views our actions, and inciting, prompting, taking part, being part of, Christian infighting, persecution, conspiracy against such faith will spell disaster for us in the End Times.
    This is why even at the CSE Christian community, attacking their doctrine, speaking bad about them, and the like will only cause the JW opponent to be warned and or kicked out - for such attitude is Un-Christian, and it is unacceptable.
    That being said, one understanding the bible and or the scriptures, history too, over time, does not reflect a change in doctrine, an example would be that JWs, in the Bible Student Era once celebrated Christmas, until later on they gain knowledge through study and knew off the bat that Christmas isn't to be celebrated, thus how JWs are today with such holiday and or any Holiday for that matter, for the only thing they celebrate is the Memorial of the Christ. Over time, other Christians have followed suit, and I have posted this already to that Swihii guy on this forum, which you yourself have known this since you made comment on that same thread.
    Friend, you really need to study Greek, do not make the mistake as most mainstream Christians make. "me" or "my" in Greek is μοῦ (mou) Greek Strong's #3450. It also relates to "I", "me", "mine" "own", "my" (The simpler form of emou [of me]). μοῦ used in that verse (John 14:13 and also 14), so them revising it isn't all that of a major issue, unless you do not understand Greek or Strong's or if the JWs took out the Strong's entirely for a different word. Another thing to take into account is "me" also equals to another word in Greek, μέ (me) Greek Strong's #3165 which relates to  "I", "me ", "my" (A shorter (and probably originally) from of eme [me]). For both μοῦ and μέ are basically identical and both have been used many, many times in scripture.
    http://biblehub.com/greek/3450.htm
    http://biblehub.com/greek/3165.htm
    Other Strong's I will add here so you can better understand:
    Emou (ἐμοῦ) Greek Strong's #1700 - http://biblehub.com/greek/1700.htm
    Eme (ἐμέ) Greek Strong's #1691 - http://biblehub.com/greek/1691.htm
    egó (ἐγώ) Greek Strong's #1473 - http://biblehub.com/greek/1473.htm
    There are several others that are identical also.
    14:13  καὶ ὅ τι ἂν αἰτήσητε ἐν τῷ ὀνόματί μου τοῦτο ποιήσω ἵνα δοξασθῇ ὁπατὴρ ἐν τῷ υἱῷ
    14:14  ἐάν τι αἰτήσητέ ἐν τῷ ὀνόματί μου ἐγὼ ποιήσω
    14:15  Ἐὰν ἀγαπᾶτέ με τὰς ἐντολὰς τὰς ἐμὰς τηρήσατε
    Jehovah's Witnesses Interlinear Bible Translation in Quote:
    Other Interlinear versions:
    http://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/14.htm
    http://www.qbible.com/greek-new-testament/john/14.html
    http://www.gospel-john.com/greek/chapter-14.html
    Note: Some Interlinear versions will remove the word, delete, completely instead of using anything from the Strong's or the manuscript. Reason: Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus (among others)
    The Link below has several versions of this verse (it shows you literally everything, even the vulgate), I will quote for both verses 13 and 14
    http://www.greeknewtestament.com/B43C014.htm
    John 14:13 - http://www.greeknewtestament.com/B43C014.htm#V13
    John 14:14 - http://www.greeknewtestament.com/B43C014.htm#V14
    John 15:15 - http://www.greeknewtestament.com/B43C014.htm#V15
    several more, but I will limit it to these two, you get the idea (the section like you can click on John 14 verses 13, 14 and or 15 and it will direct you to the verse instead of scrolling down entirely.)
    So if the JWs were wrong with their Interlinear, they those who wrote the Septuagint are in fault, the very high regarded source of which the Bible and the scriptures within the Bible originates from.
    But anyways, anyone who translates and or revives will take into account for what the Strong's say, and will place what they see fit in the translations, as long as it equals exactly to what the Strong's word means.
    Your claim of them being in error, is false - especially if the Strong's is accessible to the public who is even aware of such information - Ancient Greek.
    All in all, technically, it isn't a deletion of the word, unless you remove it 100% and or replace it with something other than what the Strong's or the manuscripts says.
    So therefore, the The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures from the Watchtower/Jehovah's Witnesses isn't in error.
    For you have a clear look at ALL the translations who base the scripture and or verse on the Septuagint and you can see who has it right quite easily.
    I already made comment to that of which you did not mention. Stewards among the Christian faith are those with duties of a stewardship, those who take seriousness and high consideration in the spreading of the gospel, as well as teaching it -  Shepherds to Flock, Disciple to Student, Teacher to Pupil etc. Jesus speaks  of prophecy concerning the end days and tribulations, he speaks of those who are to help in this work, those taking lead in spreading the gospel, who serves as stewards for him, a manager over the household of faith.
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