Not sure what to title this.

[Pudgy]

It’s not so much the tying of the shoes, but getting the head unstuck from the water bucket.

[TrueTomHarley]

30 minutes ago, George88 said:

That is undeniably true. There is no point in arguing against it. Hypocrisy, dishonesty, and a lack of genuine camaraderie are prevalent in both forums, and by whom? Jehovah's Witnesses, lol!

A greater den of scum and villainy has never been than in the closed club. I do my best to keep them in line, because someone has to do it—I owe it to the old hen—but let me tell you, it’s exhausting.

[Pudgy]

…. ah yes ….

…… the “Closed Club”  ….