Can Satan speak the truth?

[Srecko Sostar]

19 hours ago, George88 said:

This site is not visitor-friendly; instead, it is a disgraceful haven for disgruntled witnesses who hold no significance.

And what if this forum is meant to gather information about how ex-JWs think, so that the folks at WTJWorg can prepare countermeasures? lol

[Srecko Sostar]

16 hours ago, George88 said:

It was only in the Garden that they discovered Satan's attempt to exalt himself as a god. It was after this event that other angels began to emulate Satan's defiance of God's sovereignty.

Maybe that's true, maybe not. Do we have any evidence for this scenario?

[George88]

5 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

It's commendable that you can talk to everyone.

I don't mind having conversations with anyone. However, I strongly oppose those who choose to behave with disrespect and incivility. They will face the consequences of their actions. I have no trouble confronting people and calling them out for their disrespectful behavior.

[George88]

5 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

And what if this forum is meant to gather information about how ex-JWs think, so that the folks at WTJWorg can prepare countermeasures?

That's undeniable. It appears that's how Tom utilizes it for conducting research for his books. It seems he grew weary of venturing into apostate sites as Vic the parrot to gather information. Nonetheless, the Watchtower has more important matters to attend to than browsing through purported fake sites. That's why they simply advise "true" followers to avoid apostate or fake sites, much like this one.

[George88]

5 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Maybe that's true, maybe not. Do we have any evidence for this scenario?

We often speculate without evidence, but this should not lead us to infer falsehoods. This is the devil's deceptive tactic and is designed to conceal the truth with lies.

If we dare to assert that there is no devil, we can find evidence to support the idea of where humanity inherited sin from since there is a devil.

[Pudgy]

 

7 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Maybe that's true, maybe not. Do we have any evidence for this scenario?

Obfuscate, Obfuscate Obfuscate, divert, project and mislead and chatter on abouuuuuut …. NOTHING!

It’s a very simple question … with A VERY SIMPLE ANSWER!

NO. 

(… the answer shown below did not even address the question.)

INSTEAD… we get THIS “word salad” blather!

1 hour ago, George88 said:

We often speculate without evidence, but this should not lead us to infer falsehoods. This is the devil's deceptive tactic and is designed to conceal the truth with lies.

If we dare to assert that there is no devil, we can find evidence to support the idea of where humanity inherited sin from since there is a devil.

Even if Georgie believed the answer was “Yes”, a “Yes” with follow up facts to support the opinion would have been honest.

…. would have been.

 

[Miracle Pete]

6 hours ago, George88 said:

That's undeniable. It appears that's how Tom utilizes it for conducting research for his books. It seems he grew weary of venturing into apostate sites as Vic the parrot to gather information. Nonetheless, the Watchtower has more important matters to attend to than browsing through purported fake sites. That's why they simply advise "true" followers to avoid apostate or fake sites, much like this one.

Then what’s a ‘ true follower ’ like you, doing here?

 

[George88]

I will expose fake Jehovah's Witnesses like you and those in the closed club who disrespect God by using his name in a blasphemous manner. Does that sufficiently address the question posed by a foolish person? Pudgy

What is the reason for starting another conflict, or is it that Tom is unable to control his dog?

[George88]

It is disheartening that individuals continue to affirm the validity of the original post. Even those who support Satan fail to speak the truth; they simply prefer to behave in a reprehensible manner, further confirming the point raised.

[George88]

The focus should be on enhancing the experience for visitors instead of trying to engage in illogical discussions with irrational individuals that just want to fight like little school children.

Scripture emphasizes controlling our tongue because words have the power to bring life or death, to build up or tear down. Our tongue has the ability to either bless or curse, and its impact is far-reaching. By controlling our tongue, we can cultivate wisdom, show love, and bring healing to others. Scripture guides us to use our words for good and to bring glory to God through the way we speak.

NAS  Proverbs 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit. (Prov. 18:21 NAS)

Where does it state in Proverbs that God is kidding? DEATH AND LIFE.

NAS  Proverbs 13:3 The one who guards his mouth preserves his life; The one who opens wide his lips comes to ruin. (Prov. 13:3 NAS)

NAS  James 1:26 If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless. (Jas. 1:26 NAS)

NAS  1 Peter 3:10 For, "Let him who means to love life and see good days Refrain his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking guile. (1 Pet. 3:10 NAS)

NAS  Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." (Rev. 21:8 NAS)

What is the second death? It is a permanent death without resurrection, redemption, or pardon, just like what Satan will experience in the end. This is why words matter, as well as one's mindset, since they lead us to our actions and behavior, and ultimately to our own destruction if not tamed. Therefore, there is no justification for criticizing what God views as good.

The Watchtower is not saying it, God is telling us.

 

[George88]

Tom, let me clarify something. I refuse to bear the blame for the situation, it's your associates who are responsible. You have completely misjudged me. I treat others based on how they treat me. If Pete, Srecko, or James choose to insult me, they are the ones initiating it, not me. Understand this clearly. The only contrast is, you, JWI and whoever is controlling this site have the power to ban people because you want to protect your illusion of a perfect environment.

Stop insinuating that you are the victims here. In reality, people like me are the victims. How many hundreds have you banned over the course of a decade to protect apostates, the disfellowshipped, disgruntled witnesses, and James? If you want to continue down this path, remember that you can't critique without being critiqued.

I may have a multitude of complaints surpassing those of all of you combined, yet I have made a conscious decision to adhere to God's commands and the teachings of Christ. Nothing in this world should hold a more steadfast position in one's pursuit of salvation.

[Pudgy]

I find it stunning that you, Georgie, have apparently NEVER thought to apply that counsel to yourself, first .…. or at all! 

THAT is why, in my not-so-humble-opinion, the title of “Vicar of Warwick”, fits.

You try to elevate yourself by denigrating others, totally unaware of the cluelessness and hypocrisy you display like a badge of office.

You whine constantly about everybody here … yet, here you are!

… yet … here you are ….