No Other Gospel - Galatians 1:6-10

[George88]

While there is some truth to your statement, it is important to address and highlight the gravity of apostasy and false accusations against the Watchtower and Governing Body. These actions transcend mere linguistic abuse. Just as the Apostle warned against improper behavior, he also admonished those who strayed from the path of God's teachings and led His faithful astray.

We need to weigh these facts carefully. Unfortunately, there is one abusive person here who is making it challenging for the rest of the group, which falls under that provision of self-righteousness.

Even when attempting to engage in a civil discussion, we inevitably encounter subtle insults from the opposing side that many prefer to overlook. There is absolutely no excuse or justification to shield certain individuals simply because they identify as JWs, while they hypocritically condemn others who are merely defending themselves.

In the past, individuals were banned from this site for engaging or having personal exchanges with you. While advocating for a peaceful resolution is commendable, it is even more crucial to condemn the recurrent trend of apostate tendencies, and I sincerely hope to welcome a rational mind if there are positive interactions to be made.

It is truly unfortunate that apostasy is tolerated in our community, as it serves as a cover for the apostate actions of those who claim to be Jehovah's Witnesses.

When we empower and align ourselves with those who believe they have the right to criticize the spirituality of the Governing Body or impose their own interpretation of scripture as fact, we must examine our own integrity. By doing so, we may find ourselves complicit and biased in our understanding of the Bible.

Then, criticizing those critics becomes fair game, as they are promoting their opinions in a public forum for everyone to see. This is something that you yourself have embraced in the past.

If this were a judicial committee, those individuals would have been disfellowshipped a long time ago, even though they think it would be me instead. However, a decision must be made, and when one's actions align with scriptural truth while others rely on falsehoods, it becomes evident who should be disregarded.

Therefore, Apostle Paul's mission was also to identify those who were willing to tear down what Christ had established, by exposing and preventing it from happening, as stated in scripture. Paul was also not kind when delivering his message through his letters.

There appears to be some confusion regarding the nature of Christ's love, with some people believing it to be unconditional. However, it was Christ who set the example, while Paul was entrusted with the responsibility of establishing certain conditions for it.

Some of the individuals within the closed club were once upstanding responsible men who have strayed from the path of righteousness. This is inexcusable and should not be condoned by any Jehovah's Witness. Furthermore, there are those who condone this behavior by offering support to a disfellowshipped individual who has yet to show any sign of remorse and is still accountable under secular law for a serious offense. It is disheartening to see so-called Jehovah's Witnesses defending such a person.

Therefore, the statement may seem appropriate, but it lacks the essential correction that a faithful follower of Christ should carry. We are called to ensure that our brothers' spirituality is not influenced by negative influences, in accordance with bible principles.

The most effective solution to your profound sorrow would be to reach out to your close companions within the closed club and kindly request that they refrain from espousing apostate perspectives and disseminating falsehoods. By doing so, they would avoid revealing their true character to the general public. In turn, this would eliminate the need for individuals like myself to bring such behavior to light.

What better representation of God's guiding strength is there than to engage in a noble struggle like Christ? James truly captured this sentiment in James 1:2-4.

That is the main concern, and yes, it is indeed unfortunate but essential. Witnesses cannot, with a clear conscience, overlook the misconduct of apostasy or associate themselves with individuals who advocate for such misguided agendas under the guise of debate, especially when these individuals refuse to acknowledge their own errors. Mark 10:27 / Romans 8:28

[George88]

Keep in mind the main theme related to the misinterpretation of the word "accursed," which was not meant to apply to themselves even though it applies to them even more.

[TrueTomHarley]

3 hours ago, Arauna said:

Frankly the forum seems to be an enclosed a tank of sharks

It’s like a bad auto accident. You know you should turn away but you can’t.

[George88]

If someone cannot tear their eyes away from a gruesome car accident, it reveals more about the dark nature of their mind than the accident itself.

[Pudgy]

No, it doesn’t.

 

[Pudgy]

I realize that is the first thing you would think of Georgie, because you believe everyone is inferior to you, but many people, and I believe most people are trying to analyze “what happened” to see how they can safely avoid the accident site, or find a place to safely stop their car to rush to the aide of any accident victims.

I carry a large trauma first aide kit in my car for that very purpose, as well as my own use. 

The accidents I have come upon there were people already there rendering aid, directing traffic, etc., and I slowed down dramatically and “could not tear my eyes away”, and twice I stopped and analyzed everything I could see to determine if I could help.

The people already there were already handling it at least as well as I could, so I left.

i have made panic stops, and risked my life to rescue a box turtle crossing the road, but only slightly.

 

 

[Arauna]

"There would be no way to know what the real motives of the son was after such debauchery led him to the depths of despair."

 

Don't agree -- the repentance was already in his heart if one reads the illustration again. He was eating pig's food.  He told himself that he will go home and be a servant in his own father's house.  He was not expecting to be treated as a privileged son after his debauchery. He said to himself that the servants in his father's house live better than he does. He realized his mistake and longed for the conditions in his fathers house as a servant.  His father was waiting for him to come back in the illustration to show how Jehovah loves us.

The spiritual food Jehovah provides is 100 fold better than any place in the world or any church. A truly repentant one usually realizes this.

3 hours ago, George88 said:

associate themselves with individuals who advocate for such misguided agendas under the guise of debate,

There are some here who think they are open-minded or sophisticated - a worldly and self-deceiving way of looking at life. To be worldly wise. While all of us have to work on ourselves, I tend to agree that there is too much tolerance for twisted teachings.

 

[Pudgy]

There is also the danger of thinking about ourselves as the arbiters of what are the truths from God, with our own faulty perception of what God’s truths are … or never having analyzed things …. what some “authority” figure declares what those Truths or “truths” are.

Among many people the word “Apostate” is misapplied in general, and often means “… anybody that disagrees with me”.

The term is used not as a description, but as a threat. 

If they use five or eighteen paragraphs to say something that can be said in two sentences, well, that’s as they say in poker, a “tell”.

All Jehovah’s Witnesses vital Core Truths can be typed on a single page, with a page of references.

The rest is politics and hypnosis with many droning words.

[Pudgy]

 

[George88]

James, you misunderstand me. I don't require anyone to experience what they already are in the eyes of God. That decision is solely yours, not mine. It is time for all of you to take responsibility for what you have become, especially those who claim to be Jehovah's Witnesses, yet are bringing reproach to his name.

The crucial factor for God is not external intelligence, but rather the inner wisdom to employ reasoning and understanding in accordance with God's knowledge. When individuals exhibit a deficiency in this inner knowledge, they are undermining the purpose of God's guidance for humanity. In essence, they are rejecting everything that God has revealed to mankind, thereby mirroring the rejection of Christ as the Israelites once did, despite witnessing the power of God firsthand.

The absence of intellectual rigor burdens us individually. Therefore, if we exhibit it in public, we have no one to blame but ourselves. Spiritual maturity encompasses that.

[Pudgy]

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Hey! this saves a LOT OF TIME!!