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"Ah, Babylon 4, we have a report of a madman on the WNM forum creating a disturbance. Could you run by there and check it out, please? Careful not to provoke him though. He is the fastest gun in the West - and east, north, and south."

"Roger, that, Dick Tracy - I'm on it, after I finish this donut. I'm pretty sure I know who you mean. He's a pretty harmless old pork chop, with stray dogs everywhere, but he sure does make a lot of noise."

 

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41 minutes ago, John Lindsay Barltrop said:

Tell JTRJ, were you ever in the military?

John:

That is a fair question .... ( the irony of me replying  to you after the above, does not go un-noticed...)

No, I never was.  

I was 18 during the peak of the Vietnam War, and was a Conscientious Objector. 

My file was about 4" thick at the Selective Service Office, and the committee assembled with me at the end of the long table threatened to send me to prison for five years, if I refused induction.  They realized I was as serious and resolute as a heart attack ... and I was granted my "I-O" (Conscientious Objector) status, and was excused from military service.

War is a political activity to force people to do things you want as a matter of national policy.

I did not like "policy wonks" at age 18 ... and I do not like them now.

That is one of many reasons that I appreciate the training I had as a 1960's era Jehovah's Witness ..... it saved me from killing a lot of innocent people.

Personal Self Defense is NOT War.

Oh, and because there are at least three "Tom"s on the archive, by convention and preference JTR works without ambiguity.

 

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3 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

 

When you are unable or unwilling to explain a simple sentence that you, yourself authored ...

... that in itself is pitiable. 

It was an honest question, and the response was evasion ...

... that in itself is arrogance and dishonesty.

James, I will tell you why I said that re your personality, it was because of this comment: 

"Perhaps one day some nutcase will shoot up your Kingdom Hall with you inside."

I thought; "How could a Brother, hope that another Brother would get shot up whilst attending a meeting at a Kingdom Hall"                       

I took exception to that remark, and thought it very unchristian, and that is why I initially ignored your reply.

I will also tell you why I thought that you had not been in the military.....it is your attitude to guns.........I also correctly picked two others, (non-Witnesses), that seemed to have this passion with guns and like to walk around cities and towns with loaded guns on their person.  This was also over these insane massacres that keep on occurring in the States.

Maybe you can answer the question James......Why do these  insane massacres by lone gunmen continue unabated in the USA, and yet nowhere else in the world?

 

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51 minutes ago, John Lindsay Barltrop said:

James, I will tell you why I said that re your personality, it was because of this comment: 

"Perhaps one day some nutcase will shoot up your Kingdom Hall with you inside."

I thought; "How could a Brother, hope that another Brother would get shot up whilst attending a meeting at a Kingdom Hall"                       

John:

It is clear from my comment ... and what you got out of it ... which are completely unrelated ... that your reading comprehension skills are filtered through your particular AGENDA driven thought processes, or that you have no reading comprehension skills.

I offered for consideration a rational POSSIBILITY in keeping with real current events ... NOT a desire that it would happen.

I personally feel reassured when good men and/or women walk around town with loaded guns ... you feel threatened.

I live in a ZERO CRIME neighborhood in my end of the subdivision I live in, because EVERYBODY shoots off their back deck, and the folks who own the farm next to my lot apparently have a LOT of money for ammunition, as on Sundays. it sounds like a target range.

What you hear is a cause for fear .... I hear as the SOUNDS OF FREEDOM!

I mow my lawn with gunfire on both sides of me without apprehension, because I know these folks are intelligent, safety conscious, responsible people.

You need to associate with a better class of people, or teach yourself to become one... 

.... or live in irrational fear as you do now.

51 minutes ago, John Lindsay Barltrop said:

Maybe you can answer the question James......Why do these  insane massacres by lone gunmen continue unabated in the USA, and yet nowhere else in the world?

These things happen EVERYWHERE ... you just are unaware of it.

Knives are used more than 6 times as often as guns in murders ... and bare hands and feet  about 2.5 times more than rifles.

... and anyone nuts enough to do so can ram a crowd with a 2,000 pound car at 60 mph and kill and maim dozens.

I guess the REAL answer to your agenda loaded question is what always answers the various questions that are elusive.

INFINITE VARIETY.

 

 

 

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James you said: "These things happen EVERYWHERE ... you just are unaware of it."

Is it that these events are only reported in the world media when they occur in the USA?

Oh! Silly me, I forgot: the Swiss are ranked third behind Yemen and the USA as respects gun ownership and they have a similar problems with lone gunman massacres..........they have had a few massacres there, but on a population pro rata  basis the USA romps home to win the Gold medal...........Yemen probably comes second, and they are in the throes of a civil war........I am a bit behind on my history - Has the civil War in America actually finished?

 

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John:

You have tunnel vision, and it's a long tunnel, and what you see is an oncoming train.

There are thousands of massacres occurring all over the place, and always have been.

In 1995 Rwanda had a MILLION PEOPLE MURDERED , with 800,000 machetes the government bought for some carefully planned ethnic cleansing, by the general populace, against the general populace.

Just google Massacres, or Genocide, and the name of any particular country you want to know about.

Most massacres and genocides are done with edged weapons, or poison gas, or other non-gun methods, blunt force trauma leading the pack.

IT"S CHEAPER THAN FIREARMS AND BULLETS!!

Even Australia has it's gun massacres  ..... as happened in Tasmania, at Port Arthur about 22 years ago.  Australia had been disarmed, but one of the guns confiscated  SOMEHOW was used to kill kill 35 people and wound 23.

OH WAIT!  Let me rephrase that .

The firearm was in a police storage area and was used as a tool to murder and maim them ... by an evil MAN.  The rifle itself was quite content in the dark, in a police impound area.

Of course the Aboriginal Australians were massacred, but massacre is hardly the right word ... GENOCIDE is.

You are WAY, WAY behind on your history.

Add that to an agenda driven perception and you will absolutely insure that as you said... you were wrong before, and will be wrong again.

And you are wrong NOW.

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