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That is good to change your teaching when you realise it is wrong. (Although we are a little quicker off the mark in this). e.g. Take this notion that unbaptised children who die go somewhere on

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@Melinda Mills  You guys are barely 150 years old and are continually changing what you actually "believe"..... 

For instance, you guys claimed 1975 the end was to come yet here we are alive and breathing.

I would turn the question around and ask what could you learn from us Catholics. 

We have almost 2,000 years of history and teachings to offer. 

I believe your leadership has also visited the Vatican before and were very impressed.

Our art alone is historical and inspirational to millions.

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8 hours ago, Claudia Sanchez said:

what could you learn from us Catholics

That is good to change your teaching when you realise it is wrong. (Although we are a little quicker off the mark in this).

e.g. Take this notion that unbaptised children who die go somewhere on the fringes of "hell" called "Limbo" to receive [whatever] for their unredeemed, inherited ("Original") sin.

  • "It may therefore be correctly affirmed, that such infants as quit the body without being baptized will be involved in the mildest condemnation of all." Augustine (4th Century)
  •  "St. Augustine and the African Fathers believed that unbaptized infants share in the common positive misery of the damned," Catholic Encyclopedia (21st Century)
  • Catholic Encyclopedia entry on "Limbo": (21st Century) "the permanent place or state of those unbaptized children and others who, dying without grievous personal sin, are excluded from the beatific vision on account of original sin alone (the "limbus infantium" or "puerorum")"
  • In a long-awaited document, “The Hope of Salvation for Infants who Die Without Being Baptized”, the Church’s International Theological Commission said "limbo" reflected an “unduly restrictive view of salvation”. The document states (in contrast to the view of Augustine and the Catholic Encyclopedia): "Our conclusion is that the many factors that we have considered above give serious theological and liturgical grounds for hope that unbaptised infants who die will be saved and enjoy the Beatific Vision."  (20th Century)

There is a bit of incoherence in the chronological sequencing of these changes, but ...hey ho...I suppose it's a bit like turning a supertanker.

PS. Jehovah's Witnesses haven't changed their views on this whole paticular piece of nonsense by the way. They still hold to the view expressed at Ecc 9:5 "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all". (11th Century BCE!)

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