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You know what I noticed about your whiney rant about nobody liking you George88?

Not a single specific example to back up your claims that everyone is scum … except you.

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On the plus side, you have managed for several weeks without that delightful jingle from the 1-877-KARS-4-KIDS commercial stuck in your head on repeat. 

Way to go! Keep that streak going! Every time you think of it, you think of me! 

Reports confirmed that you were able to get the song out of your head approximately 4 weeks ago. You are now living in the peaceful bliss of not hearing "1-877-KARS-4-KIDS, K-A-R-S Kars for Kids, 1-877-KARS-4-KIDS, donate your car today!" bouncing around in your mind over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.

I adapted this from the “Babylon Bee”, so every time you talk about 607 BC, you will think of ME!, and of course "1-877-KARS-4-KIDS, K-A-R-S Kars for Kids, 1-877-KARS-4-KIDS, donate your car today!"

BROUHAHAHAhahaahaa!

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It’s as if Jesus himself is speaking. What about carpenters? Is your opinion the same for them? 

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. Is there a recommendation to do something? Believe something?    This phrase "Why don't former members of Jehovah's Witnesses recognize the impact

I don't know whether you just had a seizure, but you're not making sense. You're one step away from talking in word salads.

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1 hour ago, George88 said:

You are clearly an immature person, Anna, seeking to ban others like you have done in the past. Your behavior reflects poorly on you. So, crawl back in your hole the closed club with the right of the fake witnesses.

Why are you condoning their insults and profanity? Have you even heard of a nob? Educate yourself! And to think, Tom, Xero, Pudgy, Pete started the fights and yet you have the audacity to call me immature. There's a limit to delusion, you know.

First, the irony lies in his claim that he can design an oil refinery or a municipal water system in his mind while he can't seem to keep his head out of the toilet and mind out of the gutter. 😂

Anyone, regardless of intellect, can create something if they apply themselves. However, such endeavors may not contribute to one's spiritual growth. 

Here we have a situation where a person openly admits to being rude and obnoxious, and others seem to accept it. But when someone stands up for themselves against these individuals, they are not accepted. It is concerning that this kind of behavior is not only tolerated but even celebrated.

Be cautious, as it seems that a ban is imminent when individuals brandish their guns. Disrespectful women who mistakenly believe they are immune to criticism simply because of their gender. They adopt the same mindset as a select group of authoritarian figures who consider themselves privileged to voice complaints and criticize the Watchtower, much like apostates. However, these same people are outraged when others dare to critique them for their deceptions, misguided perspectives and interpretations. How sad the mind works on certain people.

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It's quite the role reversal, Pudgy. Now you're the victim instead of the villain. It seems you think just like them, and that's the issue here. When one person chooses to remain ignorant, others will often follow in their footsteps, perpetuating a cycle of ignorance.

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FYI, I designed oil refineries and municipal water systems, railroads, highways, nuclear waste disposal sites,  not just in my mind, but in AutoCad and Microstation Plant Design CAD SOFTWARE, which is so deep, it takes about 8 years to become really good at it, and was paid very well for it.

Your trying to denigrate me to exalt yourself fails.

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…. so if I designed refineries and municipal water systems and swore like a sailor it would be “ironic”, huh?

Explain THAT!

You would not understand ironic if a cast iron statue fell on you and killed you.

You are so completely delusional it’s painful to even watch.

 

 

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Oh! Death threats coming from a pervert. I'm not surprised to hear such foolish words from someone like you. Will you be able to cleanse yourself of what you've become when it's time for you to leave? I have a different perspective and I believe that many of you might have mental health issues, and among all, you are the worst.

What else do you have, as a nob, are you going to insult my mother? This is Tom's definition of repentance, which the closed club of Jehovah's Witnesses embraces and defends with conviction.

How did engineers manage to do their work before the advent of AutoCAD? The old school was much more intricate than your rudimentary education could comprehend. That's why I have had the privilege of working at prestigious institutions such as the Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant, Diablo Canyon Power Plant, and even for NASA. So, pardon me if I say that your credentials don't quite measure up. And mind you, that's just a glimpse into my own achievements. Others may have more credentials than I do.

However, none of these factors are relevant to the transformation into a deteriorating individual and the squandering of one's life. You claim to be just and repentant, yet you and your friends here advocate for outrageous ideologies. It's ironic that you expect your kind of believers to support such contradictory beliefs. Your inconsistency is truly laughable.

 

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9 minutes ago, BTK59 said:

Your inconsistency is truly laughable.

You may be on to something. Impressed with the credentials he presented, we appointed him chief engineer of the closed club, just like Scotty. Now, there is not a toilet in the place that flushes.

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33 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

You may be on to something. Impressed with the credentials he presented, we appointed him chief engineer of the closed club, just like Scotty. Now, there is not a toilet in the place that flushes.

You guys have toilets?

Cartoon dogs neither pee, NOR poop, but if we did, it we would use a cartoon fire hydrant!

 

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6 hours ago, BTK59 said:

Oh! Death threats coming from a pervert. I'm not surprised to hear such foolish words from someone like you. Will you be able to cleanse yourself of what you've become when it's time for you to leave? I have a different perspective and I believe that many of you might have mental health issues, and among all, you are the worst.

What else do you have, as a nob, are you going to insult my mother? This is Tom's definition of repentance, which the closed club of Jehovah's Witnesses embraces and defends with conviction.

How did engineers manage to do their work before the advent of AutoCAD? The old school was much more intricate than your rudimentary education could comprehend. That's why I have had the privilege of working at prestigious institutions such as the Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant, Diablo Canyon Power Plant, and even for NASA. So, pardon me if I say that your credentials don't quite measure up. And mind you, that's just a glimpse into my own achievements. Others may have more credentials than I do.

However, none of these factors are relevant to the transformation into a deteriorating individual and the squandering of one's life. You claim to be just and repentant, yet you and your friends here advocate for outrageous ideologies. It's ironic that you expect your kind of believers to support such contradictory beliefs. Your inconsistency is truly laughable.

 

‘ that’s just a glimpse into my own achievements’ 

this is too funny. 
 

Is there a Nobel prize or a Sir Arthur Clarke award pending? I feel we may be in the presence of an all time genius here on The World News Media. We are indeed so so spoilt. Can you imagine Jesus talking like this? ‘ I have had the privilege of turning water into wine and raising the dead, I’ve even  worked for God, in fact he’s my father so that’s why I despise you uneducated plumbers’ 

 

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