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    • By JOHN BUTLER
      Luke 10 v 21  In that very hour he became overjoyed in the holy spirit and said: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have carefully hidden these things from wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved.
      This seems to show that 'higher education' was not needed to learn, understand and teach, the truth from God, at that time. 
      It seems to be a well know thing within the JW Org and by people outside of same, that JW's are 'told' not to aim for higher education. I say told, although some will say strongly advised, with a possible caution of being disfellowshipped. 
      Now I've noticed on here recently that deep conversation about many things has been and is taking place. Politics earthwide. religious beliefs earthwide and the latest thing seems to be Evolution (from a very deep standpoint ). ( These things were never taught to me at school. )
      I left school at 15 years old, as soon as I was able, for reasons previously mentioned. Here in UK now teenagers have to remain in education until they are 18. The three years from 15 to 18 seem to me to be almost 'higher education', but compulsory.  How much they learn at school now I've no idea. 
      My feelings are, and yes ok i cannot put proof to these feelings, but, my feelings are, that all forms of higher education are advised against by the GB and the JW Org. Some of you may have some proof of this in writing. So, where does this leave JW's ?
      If a young person leaves school to go into full time 'service' ministry, they do not get a higher education. Their 'basic' education may have been just that, very basic. They are then not 'qualified' to talk to others on a higher education level, and this might even be to the point of not understanding such things as are being discussed on here lately. 
      ( Much of what is being discussed leaves me miles behind. I'm a very simple person. Plus at 69 I forget more than i learn. Yes I do write lots of notes and have books for recording different things, but the mind boggles. )
      With respect for those I knew and loved in the past, within my ex congregation, many of them were 'simple country folk'. And I think Tom said about not having the time or inclination to do research online or or otherwise. So let us go back to the scripture at the top. 
      So many questions. Does God reveal more to those of a lesser education ?  Is higher education and greater knowledge a disadvantage when wanting to serve God properly?
      Or is it that those of higher education are too stubborn to learn God's way ?  Too proud maybe ?   
      There are many things that the Bible doesn't tell us. is that deliberate ? Does God want to keep it simple for us ? So, should we pursue more knowledge about worldly things ? 
      A problem may occur when talking to others about God, in that they may have more knowledge on a certain subject than we do and therefore believe something different. Should we then educate ourselves to their level on the same subject, or just pass them by ?  Bearing in mind the scripture at the top of this page. 
      There has to be a balance of course. But my feelings are that the GB would like JW's to be educated only by the Watchtower studies and by the 'workbook' evening meeting studies. And of course by personal Bible reading.   But do JW's do as they are told in this respect or do a lot of them 'educate themselves', or take further education elsewhere ? 
       
       
    • By Jack Ryan
      Gene Smalley at a Circuit Assembly This Weekend
      "Solomon had 60 queens and 80 concubines when he wrote Song of Solomon" I think Smalley said this like three times.
      So anyways, "he wasn't supposed to be multiplying wives for himself according to the law" Gene kept saying. But "Jehovah used him anyway".
      What was his point? How we can make mistakes and still be used by Jehovah.
      Of course he had to name drop Fred Franz at one point, something about looking up the word paregoric in the dictionary.
      At another point he wen off about the immune system and blood cells for about 10 minutes. Final 1 hour talk of the day.
    • By Bible Speaks
      King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba - Amazed at His Wisdom. Knowledge! - A Gift from Jehovah! ~ 
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      (Sol?o·mon) [from a root meaning “peace”]
      (1 Kings 10:1-25) . . .Now the queen of She?ba was hearing the report about Sol?o·mon in connection with the name of Jehovah. So she came to test him with perplexing questions. 2 Finally she arrived at Jerusalem with a very impressive train, camels carrying balsam oil and very much gold and precious stones; and she came on in to Sol?o·mon and began to speak to him all that happened to be close to her heart. 
      3 Sol?o·mon, in turn, went on to tell her all her matters. There proved to be no matter hidden from the king that he did not tell her. 4 When the queen of She?ba got to see all the wisdom of Sol?o·mon and the house that he had built, 5 and the food of his table and the sitting of his servants and the table service of his waiters and their attire and his drinks and his burnt sacrifices that he regularly offered up at the house of Jehovah, then there proved to be no more spirit in her. 6 So she said to the king: “True has the word proved to be that I heard in my own land about your matters and about your wisdom. 
      7 And I did not put faith in the words until I had come that my own eyes might see; and, look! I had not been told the half. You have surpassed in wisdom and prosperity the things heard to which I listened. 8 Happy are your men; happy are these servants of yours who are standing before you constantly, listening to your wisdom! 9 May Jehovah your God come to be blessed, who has taken delight in you by putting you upon the throne of Israel; because Jehovah loves Israel to time indefinite, so that he appointed you as king to render judicial decision and righteousness.” 10 Then she gave the king a hundred and twenty talents of gold and a very great deal of balsam oil and precious stones. There never came anymore the like of that balsam oil for quantity such as the queen of She?ba gave to King Sol?o·mon. 
      11 And Hi?ram’s fleet of ships that carried gold from O?phir also brought from O?phir timbers of algum trees in very great amount and precious stones. 12 And the king proceeded to make out of the timbers of the algum trees supports for the house of Jehovah and for the house of the king, and also harps and stringed instruments for the singers. Timbers of algum trees like this have not come in nor have they been seen down to this day. 13 And King Sol?o·mon himself gave the queen of She?ba all her delight for which she asked, apart from what he gave her according to the openhandedness of King Sol?o·mon. After that she turned about and went to her own land, she together with her servants. 
      14 And the weight of the gold that came to Sol?o·mon in one year amounted up to six hundred and sixty-six talents of gold, 15 apart from the men of travel and the profit from the traders and all the kings of the Arabs and the governors of the land. 16 And King Sol?o·mon went on to make two hundred large shields of alloyed gold (six hundred [shekels] of gold he proceeded to lay upon each large shield), 17 and three hundred bucklers of alloyed gold (three mi?nas of gold he proceeded to lay upon each buckler). Then the king put them in the House of the Forest of Leb?a·non. 18 Further, the king made a great ivory throne and overlaid it with refined gold. 
      19 There were six steps to the throne, and the throne had a round canopy behind it, and there were armrests on this side and on that side by the place of sitting, and two lions were standing beside the armrests. 20 And there were twelve lions standing there upon the six steps, on this side and on that side. No other kingdom had any made just like it. 21 And all the drinking vessels of King Sol?o·mon were of gold, and all the vessels of the House of the Forest of Leb?a·non were of pure gold. There was nothing of silver; it was considered in the days of Sol?o·mon as nothing at all. 
      22 For the king had a fleet of ships of Tar?shish on the sea along with Hi?ram’s fleet of ships. Once every three years the fleet of ships of Tar?shish would come carrying gold and silver, ivory, and apes and peacocks. 23 So King Sol?o·mon was greater in riches and wisdom than all the other kings of the earth. 24 And all the people of the earth were seeking the face of Sol?o·mon to hear his wisdom that God had put in his heart. 25 And they were bringing each his gift, articles of silver and articles of gold and garments and armor and balsam oil, horses and mules, as a yearly matter of course."
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      https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200004178

    • By Guest-00
      Just very curious if anyone had noticed that "wisdom" is a woman (Compare Pro 7: 4) How would you explain this seeming discrepancy to anyone who pointed this out?
    • By The Librarian
      Solomon was wiser than any other king on earth. How did he become so wise? And what mistakes did he later make?
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    • By Bible Speaks
      (Prov 3:5, 6)   Where can we look for guidance when making decisions, even seemingly trivial ones?
      How wonderful it would be to have a reliable consultant to advise us when we face a difficult decision! You can find such an adviser.
      An ancient book with a message for today has this to say: “Your own ears will hear a word behind you saying: ‘This is the way. Walk in it, you people,’ in case you people should go to the right or in case you should go to the left.” (Isaiah 30:21)
      What motivates us to make decisions that will show respect for the conscience of others?
      Love for our neighbor. Jesus Christ taught that loving our neighbor as ourselves is the commandment second in importance only to that of loving God with our whole soul.  
      However, we are living in a self-centered world, and our sinful tendencies incline us toward being selfish. So if a person is to love his neighbor as himself, he has to make his mind over.
      Apart from Bible principles and the conscience of others, what may we consider when making decisions?
      We need to consider how our decisions will affect our spiritual, mental, emotional, and physical well-being in the future.
      Be they major or trivial, your decisions matter. A decision you make today may mean the difference between success and failure, even life and death in the future.
      You can make wise decisions if you take into consideration Bible principles, the conscience of others, and the long-range effect of your action.
      Make decisions God’s way. The decision about what course to follow now is yours to make, truly a decision that is a matter of life or death.
      Would you welcome help in making the right decision, the wise one?
      http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006283?q=decision+making&p=par#h=23
       
       


    • By Bible Speaks
      "Solomon began to do what was bad in the eyes of Jehovah."— (1 Ki. 11:6)
      “It came about in the time of Solomon’s growing old that his wives themselves had inclined his heart to follow other gods; and his heart did not prove to be complete with Jehovah his God like the heart of David his father.” (1 Ki. 11:4) 
      http://wol.jw.org/en

    • By Bible Speaks
      "Pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment." (Prov. 2:2)
      "By making your ear attentive to wisdom, And inclining your heart to discernment." (Prov. 2:2)
      At the start of Solomon’s kingship, God appeared to him in a dream and invited him to make a request. Aware of his limited experience, Solomon requested wisdom. (1 Ki. 3:5-9) 
      Pleased that the king asked for wisdom rather than for riches and glory, God gave Solomon “a wise and understanding heart”—as well as prosperity. (1 Ki. 3:10-14) 
      We personally do not expect to receive wisdom miraculously. Solomon said that “Jehovah himself gives wisdom,” but he wrote that we should strive to gain that godly quality. He used expressions such as “call out for,” “keep seeking for,” and “keep searching for” wisdom. (Prov. 2:1-6) 
      Clearly, we can gain wisdom. It would be good to ask: ‘Am I taking to heart Solomon’s example of treasuring divine wisdom? Do the choices I make indicate that I am treasuring and seeking divine wisdom?’ 
      wol.jw.org

    • By Bible Speaks
      "For a bagful of wisdom is worth more than one full of pearls."  (Job 28:18)

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