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Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick


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1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

It is good to learn children about charity and sharing with others. But, is it really proper to do that with Institutional Cartoons of Company who have real-estate riches, stocks, etc?

Since the beginning of time, parents have taught children to be generous. You just don’t like the recipient of that generosity. What if she had donated to some charity? You think the United Way is operating on a shoe-string budget?—they spend a dime only when they receive one? That they don’t know what real-estate or stocks are? You’re almost as ridiculous as 4Jah, attempting to pawn off your dislike of Jehovah as human altruism.

58 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

So, it is not bad for children to be involved in humanitarian matters, but with measure and with what children are and should be ... The future of a better humanity.

Oh, give me a break! Is that what you think is the prime export of schools today? Then why is suicide, anti-depressants, STDs, porn addiction, online bullying, and so forth, off the charts among them?

Facebook just told me. “Today is so-and-so’s birthday! Let him know you’re thinking about him.”

He died years ago.

In the greater scheme of things, it probably does no damage. Or maybe it does, in firmly planting the notion that things in this system are insincere & phony

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Me too! And I've noticed that the majority of those who leave, stop using it. To me that says a lot.

Well said. The publications not too long ago made much ado about Solomon’s temple dedication speech: Individuals of “your people Israel, because they know each one his own plague and his own pain; [would] actually spread out his palms toward this house, then may you yourself hear from the heavens, the place of your dwelling, and you must forgive and give to each one according to all his ways, because you know his heart.” (2 Chronicles 6:29-30) We will never know it all with any gi

If he would be equally outraged at a child expressing support for his school, love for his country, support for some local cause, rallying for some local politician, selling Scout cookies, knocking on his door offering to shovel snow, & such things, then he would be consistent. However, I think most other people would tell him to get a life. Come come, 4Jah, you still claim to be Christian. Srecko may think evangelizing is child abuse, but you should not. What if he made no mention of j

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You are such a whiny little girl you don’t even notice when the barbs you hurl contradict themselves. Here you advocate building an immune system and would condemn anyone neglecting to do so:

4 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

You don't want children to build up their own spiritual immune system....  

Here you go in exactly the opposite direction as you draw on the pandemic.

4 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

And that is all apart from the legality, even from the Org's viewpoint, of posting letters through people's doors, during a serious virus problem. 

The last people you want in these pandemic days are those who trust in their immune system. These are the ones who protest the most about wearing masks accepting vaccines. Before you let fly, think of whether what you say makes any sense. It usually doesn’t.

You may not have noticed, but not all parents in the world are ideal. There is good reason to test the waters before you toss your child into it. What did I just to your ally? It’s not uncommon for children to be completely neglected emotionally and physically. They fall into depression, anxiety, and suicide as the reassuring world Srecko promises them falls apart. They become addicted to violent gaming, to online porn, to cyberbullying. They are afflicted with STDs. They are unsupported even in gender and are persuaded that maybe switching them is the pathway to happiness.

To touch upon your favorite topic, if you can hold families together, as Witnesses do to a far greater extent than the overall world, you are taking a huge step in fighting child sexual abuse. There is no place more conducive to it than in ever-changing boyfriends and girlfriends in the wake of a divorce. A step family is far more fertile grounds for CSA than a natural family.

You would think that receiving a child-like letter from a child would be a small price to pay for knowing that child is raised in an environment that will spare him those calamities, even if it presents some unique circumstances of its own. So much hatred does the world have for meaningful religion that there are few Witnesses not familiar with the scenario of someone having cleaned up their act, quit their smoking, drinking, thieving, carousing, and generally odious ways, saved their marriage,  only to find that people, sometimes even family, prefer them as they were.

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12 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Why do you ask me a question and then answer it yourself? You are such a shrill bonehead.

Um let's see now.

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17 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

This is followed by a completely strange wording that invites the recipient of the letter to go to JWORG

Tom's words here Do you think so? I would submit that the entire letter is strange, and all of it might trigger outrage from an intolerant person.

 

14 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

So the letter is all “strange”

Um, me thinks Tom is the pot calling the kettle black. he also answers his own questions. 

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10 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

You’re almost as ridiculous as 4Jah, attempting to pawn off your dislike of Jehovah as human altruism.

11 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Mr Harley, I have no dislike for Almighty God or Jesus Christ. But you are here going back to ye olde Watchtower / JW teachings of the Org being God. That does show how you have been brainwashed tom. Almighty God and Jesus Christ are no part of the Watchtower or JW Org. Therefore i can dislike the GB, the Watchtower and the JW Org, without disliking God and Christ. 

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10 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

In the greater scheme of things, it probably does no damage. Or maybe it does, in firmly planting the notion that things in this system are insincere & phony

Yes things in the Watchtower / JW Org are insincere & phony, that's for sure. 

 

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8 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

It’s not uncommon for children to be completely neglected emotionally and physically. They fall into depression, anxiety, and suicide as the reassuring world Srecko promises them falls apart

I wish I could copy and paste something i have on file. Something that @JW Insider uploaded a long time ago. About a young man at Bethel that got himself into a bit of trouble, was d/fed, and then JUMPED IN FROM OF A TRAIN. SUICIDE.  So it happens inside the Org and outside. I know of an Elder that commited suicide by running his car engine and inhaling the  exaust fumes whilst drinking alcohol. 

 

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9 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

if you can hold families together, as Witnesses do to a far greater extent than the overall world,

This is obviously untrue. JWs kick their children out if the children disobey the parents or  GB / JW org.  Those parents demand their children get baptised into the JW org, then when a child goes 'astray' that child is thrown out on the streets without anyone to turn to. Then you wonder why that child will turn to the 'world' to stay alive. 

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9 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

You would think that receiving a child-like letter from a child would be a small price to pay for knowing that child is raised in an environment that will spare him those calamities, even if it presents some unique circumstances of its own. So much hatred does the world have for meaningful religion that there are few Witnesses not familiar with the scenario of someone having cleaned up their act, quit their smoking, drinking, thieving, carousing, and generally odious ways, saved their marriage,  only to find that people, sometimes even family, prefer them as they were.

A child raies in that environment is probably dictated to by their parents and told to do those things. That is what the article is saying. We've even read on here about a GB member saying with hold things from children unless they do such and such, including baptism. 

Meaningful religion ? Forcing children to serve MEN. Forcing children to do ministry even if they do not believe, what they have to tell others.  Having read reports online, which yes i do believe, about teenagers that left home as soon as they were able, because they had been overly controlled by their parents. Especially if dad was an Elder. Because Elders have to prove a point by displaying their children as 'perfect little JW's'. 

Not to mention those that have done the complete opposite. Adultry in congregations is well known. Elders running off with the lady they study with.  Child Sexual Abuse. to name but a few. 

Stop living in a dream world tom, see the truth of the Watchtower / JW Org. 

 

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9 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:
13 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

You don't want children to build up their own spiritual immune system....  

TOM SAYS  :   Here you go in exactly the opposite direction as you draw on the pandemic.

13 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

And that is all apart from the legality, even from the Org's viewpoint, of posting letters through people's doors, during a serious virus problem. 

Someone please explain to Tom that,    One is spiritual, the other is physical. 

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