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by DANIELLA SILVA, RIMA ABDELKADER, ANDREW BLANKSTEIN, EMILY PANDISE and PETE WILLIAMS

A gunman opened fire inside a rural Texas church on Sunday, killing about 25 people and injuring at least another 10, officials said.

"Approximately 25 people" were deceased, including the gunman, following the shooting at First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackett told NBC News.

A single shooter walked into the church and opened fire, Wilson County Commissioner Albert Gamez Jr. said earlier Sunday.

Law enforcement officials identified the gunman as Devin Patrick Kelley, age 26, of neighboring Comal County.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/several-casualties-reported-texas-church-shooting-n817751

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Wow!! One of the first things I said to my wife upon seeing a picture of him was that, if it didn't turn out to be a terrorist or immigrant, Trump would desperately need this person to somehow balance the Carolina church shooting and more recent Carolina racist truck attack, and the only way he could do this now is to claim that he was Antifa. There was nothing about Antifa in any of the reports I had heard, and then I see this.

I just did a quick search on this and the first thing that came up was a video: After listening to the video I'm convinced that this person at "The Patriotic Beast" -- i.e., the person who made the video and claimed that he was the one who discovered the Antifa connection -- is lying through his teeth. Doesn't mean this guy isn't Antifa, but I doubt it seriously. The way this man at TPB manipulated the data and lied about it, so that he could claim "you heard it hear first," makes

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Texas Church Shooter Was Antifa Member Who Vowed To Start Civil War

 

The gunman who shot up a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, is Devin Kelly, an Antifa member who vowed to start a civil war.

The gunman who opened fire inside a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, has been identified as Devin Kelley, an Antifa member who vowed to start a civil war by “targeting white conservative churches” and causing anarchy in the United States.

Wilson County Commissioner Albert Gamez Jr said that at least 27 people have been killed in the shooting, according to reports by the CNN and the BBC, with the confirmed death toll expected to climb in the coming hours.

Witnesses report they saw Devin Kelley walk into the Baptist Church in the small town 30 miles from San Antonio at 11:30am local time Sunday, according to KSAT-12.

Police have identified Antifa member Devin Patrick Kelley as the Sutherland Springs Church Killer
Police have identified Antifa member Devin Patrick Kelley as the Sutherland Springs Church Killer

Devin Kelley, who killed at least 27 people and injured many more, was one of two shooters in the church, according to eyewitnesses, who also report Kelley carried an Antifa flag and told the churchgoers “this is a communist revolution” before unloading on the congregation, reloading several times.

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The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun ... is with a Good Guy with a gun.

The "second shooter" at the church appears to have been a responding neighbor with a rifle.

My guess is he hit the assassin, severed an artery, and he bled out and crashed his truck when trying to escape.  He DID stop the massacre, but too late to save the murdered and wounded parishioners. Apparently NO ONE inside the church was armed ...

The average response time for a 911 call is 14 minutes, I learned recently. 

A Good Guy's bullet travels at about a thousand feet per SECOND.

 

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16 hours ago, Michael Krewson said:

Texas Church Shooter Was Antifa Member

Wow!! One of the first things I said to my wife upon seeing a picture of him was that, if it didn't turn out to be a terrorist or immigrant, Trump would desperately need this person to somehow balance the Carolina church shooting and more recent Carolina racist truck attack, and the only way he could do this now is to claim that he was Antifa. There was nothing about Antifa in any of the reports I had heard, and then I see this.

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17 hours ago, Michael Krewson said:

Texas Church Shooter Was Antifa Member Who Vowed To Start Civil War

 

The gunman who shot up a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, is Devin Kelly, an Antifa member who vowed to start a civil war.

The gunman who opened fire inside a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, has been identified as Devin Kelley, an Antifa member who vowed to start a civil war by “targeting white conservative churches” and causing anarchy in the United States.

Wilson County Commissioner Albert Gamez Jr said that at least 27 people have been killed in the shooting, according to reports by the CNN and the BBC, with the confirmed death toll expected to climb in the coming hours.

Witnesses report they saw Devin Kelley walk into the Baptist Church in the small town 30 miles from San Antonio at 11:30am local time Sunday, according to KSAT-12.

Police have identified Antifa member Devin Patrick Kelley as the Sutherland Springs Church Killer
Police have identified Antifa member Devin Patrick Kelley as the Sutherland Springs Church Killer

Devin Kelley, who killed at least 27 people and injured many more, was one of two shooters in the church, according to eyewitnesses, who also report Kelley carried an Antifa flag and told the churchgoers “this is a communist revolution” before unloading on the congregation, reloading several times.

I just did a quick search on this and the first thing that came up was a video:

After listening to the video I'm convinced that this person at "The Patriotic Beast" -- i.e., the person who made the video and claimed that he was the one who discovered the Antifa connection -- is lying through his teeth. Doesn't mean this guy isn't Antifa, but I doubt it seriously. The way this man at TPB manipulated the data and lied about it, so that he could claim "you heard it hear first," makes me think that almost everyone else who makes or focuses on this claim is also being disingenuous -- going for the obvious attempt to get this idea out there early to blunt the post-Trumpian reputational trends that sully the right wing of his party. 

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Texas church gunman escaped mental health facility in 2012

 

(CNN)The man who killed more than 20 people at a small Texas church escaped from a mental health facility five years ago after sneaking guns onto an Air Force base and making threats against commanders, according to a police report.

Devin Patrick Kelley's June 2012 escape from Peak Behavioral Health Systems in New Mexico occurred months after he was accused of abusing his ex-wife and her child, according to an El Paso Police Department report obtained by CNN affiliate KVIA on Tuesday.

Kelley was picked up after the Santa Teresa, New Mexico, facility listed him as missing. The documents said officers had been warned that Kelley was a danger to himself and others and that he had sneaked firearms onto Holloman Air Force Base, where he had reportedly threatened his commanders.

Kelley had been placed into pretrial confinement at a civilian facility days before his escape, according to two Air Force officials.

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      RENFORÇONS NOTRE FOI PAR LA PRIÈRE
      Avons-nous déjà eu une interrogation intérieure sur la force de notre foi?
      Vous êtes vous déjà demandé cette question?
      « Est-ce que Jéhovah voudra me sauver pendant la grande tribulation ? »
       L’apôtre Paul a expliqué que, pour rester en vie, la foi est une qualité très importante à cultiver .
      Il a dit : « Sans la foi il est impossible de plaire à Jéhovah. » (Hébreux 11:6) Cela peut sembler évident, mais en fait, comme on l’apprend en 2 Thessaloniciens 3:2, tous n’ont pas la foi. Ces 2 versets nous aident à comprendre à quel point c’est important de renforcer notre foi.
      L’apôtre Pierre a dit qu’il faut avoir une foi « éprouvée » qui veut dire que nous devons sans cesse cultiver la foi. (lire 1 Pierre 1:7) 
      Puisque la grande tribulation est très proche, nous voulons faire partie « de ceux qui ont foi » pour être sauvés. (Hébreux 10:39) Nous devons donc faire des efforts pour renforcer notre foi. Nous voulons être parmi ceux qui seront récompensés quand Jésus Christ, notre Roi, sera révélé. Alors, comme l’homme qui a supplié Jésus pour avoir plus de foi, nous aussi nous pouvons demander : « Aide-moi là où j’ai besoin de foi ! » (Marc 9:24) Ou, comme les apôtres, demandons : « Donne-nous davantage de foi. » (Luc 17:5)
      JÉHOVAH AIME QUAND NOUS RENFORÇONS NOTRE FOI
      La foi est tellement importante que Jéhovah nous a donné beaucoup d’exemples de foi dans la Bible. Ils ont été écrits « pour notre instruction ». (Romains 15:4) Les exemples d’Abraham, de Sara, d’Isaac, de Jacob, de Moïse, de Rahab, de Gédéôn, de Baraq et de beaucoup d’autres nous encouragent à renforcer notre propre foi. (Hébreux 11:32-35).
      Nous avons de formidables exemples de foi parmi nos frères et sœurs.
      La Bible nous parle d’Élie. En méditant sur son exemple, remarque 5 situations où il a montré qu’il avait une foi forte en Jéhovah. 1) Quand il a annoncé à Ahab que Jéhovah allait provoquer une sécheresse, il lui a dit avec confiance : « Aussi vrai que Jéhovah le Dieu d’Israël est vivant, il n’y aura ni rosée ni pluie. » (1 Rois 17:1) 2) Il était convaincu que Jéhovah donnerait à lui et à d’autres ce qu’il leur faudrait pendant la sécheresse. (1 Rois 17:4, 5, 13, 14) 3) Il était sûr que Jéhovah pouvait ressusciter le fils d’une veuve. (1 Rois 17:21) 4) Il n’a pas douté que le feu de Jéhovah allait brûler son sacrifice sur le mont Carmel. (1 Rois 18:24, 37) 5) Alors qu’il ne commençait même pas à pleuvoir, il a dit à Ahab avec confiance : « Monte, mange et bois, car il y a le bruit d’une pluie torrentielle. » (1 Rois 18:41) Après avoir étudié ces situations, demandons-nous : « Ma foi est-elle aussi forte que celle d’Élie? »
      COMMENT RENFORCER NOTRE FOI ?
      Pour avoir de la foi, il ne suffit pas d’en vouloir. De plus, la foi fait partie de l’esprit saint de Jéhovah. (Galates 5:22) Donc, pour renforcer notre foi, il faut prier pour recevoir plus d’esprit saint, comme Jésus l’a conseillé. Il a promis que Jéhovah « donnera de l’esprit saint à ceux qui le lui demandent ». (Luc 11:13)
      Il faut prier pour recevoir plus d’esprit saint, comme Jésus l’a conseillé.
      Quand on a une foi forte en Jéhovah, on doit l’entretenir. On peut comparer la foi à un feu. Quand on allume un feu, les flammes sont très fortes. Pourtant, si on n’ajoute pas de bois, le feu s’éteint, et il reste des cendres froides. Par contre, si on ajoute régulièrement du bois, le feu peut continuer de brûler. C’est pareil avec notre foi. Si nous continuons de lire et d’étudier la Bible tous les jours, notre amour pour la Bible et pour Jéhovah grandit. En faisant cela, nous entretenons et nous renforçons notre foi.
      Que peux-tu faire pour renforcer et entretenir ta foi ?
       (lire Jacques 1:25 ; 2:24, 26)
      L’apôtre Paul a dit que les chrétiens peuvent avoir « un échange d’encouragements, chacun étant encouragé grâce à la foi de l’autre ». (Romains 1:12) Qu’est-ce que cela signifie ? Quand nous passons du temps avec nos frères et sœurs, la foi de chacun de nous est renforcée par la foi des autres. C’est particulièrement vrai quand nous passons du temps avec ceux qui ont une foi « éprouvée ». (Jacques 1:3) Les mauvais amis détruisent notre foi, mais les amis bien choisis la renforcent. (1 Corinthiens 15:33) C’est pour cela qu’il faut assister régulièrement aux réunions. Pendant les réunions, nous pouvons nous encourager les uns les autres. (lire Hébreux 10:24, 25) De plus, l’enseignement que nous y recevons renforce notre foi. La Bible dit que « la foi naît de ce qu’on a entendu ». (Romains 10:17) Alors demande-toi : « Est-ce que les réunions chrétiennes sont une bonne habitude dans notre vie.
      Quand nous voyons comment Jéhovah nous aide et comment il répond à nos prières, notre foi en lui augmente. C’est arrivé à Caleb et Josué. Ils ont montré qu’ils avaient foi en Jéhovah quand ils ont espionné la Terre promise. Avec le temps, chaque fois qu’ils ont vu comment Jéhovah les aidait, leur foi est devenue plus forte. Josué a pu dire avec confiance aux Israélites : « Pas une parole n’a failli (n’a échoué) de toutes les bonnes paroles que vous a dites Jéhovah votre Dieu. » Il a dit plus tard : « Craignez Jéhovah et servez-le avec intégrité et avec vérité. » Puis il a ajouté : « Moi et ma maisonnée (ceux qui habitent dans ma maison), nous servirons Jéhovah. » (Josué 23:14 ; 24:14, 15) Quand nous avons confiance en Jéhovah et quand nous le voyons nous aider personnellement, notre foi devient plus forte. (Psaume 34:8)
      COMMENT PROUVER NOTRE FOI ?
      Le disciple Jacques a dit : « Je te montrerai ma foi par mes œuvres. » (Jacques 2:18) 
      Les chrétiens qui font tout leur possible dans la prédication montrent qu’ils ont une foi forte.
      La prédication est un excellent moyen de prouver notre foi. Pourquoi? 
      Quand nous prêchons, nous montrons que nous sommes sûrs que la fin est proche et qu’« elle ne sera pas en retard ». (Habaqouq 2:3) Pour savoir si notre foi est forte, demandons-nous : « Est-ce que prêcher est vraiment important pour moi ? Est-ce que je fais tout mon possible pour parler de Jéhovah aux gens ? Est-ce que je cherche des occasions de faire plus dans le service pour Jéhovah ? » (2 Corinthiens 13:5) Montrons que notre foi est forte en faisant « la déclaration publique pour le salut », c’est-à-dire en prêchant la bonne nouvelle. (lire Romains 10:10)
      Nous montrons aussi notre foi quand nous résistons aux difficultés de la vie de tous les jours. Si nous sommes malades, découragés, pauvres, ou si nous avons d’autres problèmes, nous devons avoir foi que Jéhovah et Jésus nous aideront « au bon moment ». (Hébreux 4:16) Nous montrons notre foi en Jéhovah quand nous lui demandons de l’aide. Jésus a dit que nous pouvons demander à Jéhovah de nous donner « notre pain pour le jour selon les besoins du jour ». (Luc 11:3) Des récits bibliques prouvent qu’il peut nous donner tout ce qu’il nous faut. Par exemple, pendant une grave sécheresse en Israël, Jéhovah a donné à Élie de l’eau et de la nourriture. La Bible raconte : « Les corbeaux lui apportaient du pain et de la viande le matin, du pain et de la viande le soir, et il buvait au ouadi (à la rivière). » (1 Rois 17:3-6) Nous avons foi que Jéhovah peut nous donner à nous aussi ce dont nous avons besoin.
      Nous sommes sûrs que, si nous appliquons les principes bibliques, nous pourrons nourrir notre famille. En Asie, Rebecca, une sœur mariée, explique comment elle et sa famille ont appliqué les principes de Matthieu 6:33 et de Proverbes 10:4. Elle raconte : « Mon mari sentait que son travail était un danger pour notre amitié avec Jéhovah. Alors il a laissé son travail. Mais nous avions 4 enfants à nourrir. Nous avons donc décidé de vendre des sucreries que nous faisions nous-mêmes. » Grâce à leurs efforts, ils ont toujours gagné assez d’argent pour s’occuper des besoins de leur famille. Rebecca dit : « Nous avons vu que Jéhovah ne nous a jamais abandonnés. Nous avons toujours eu de quoi manger. » As-tu déjà vécu une situation semblable qui a renforcé ta foi ?
      Nous pouvons être sûr qu’en appliquant les principes bibliques, nous pourrons nourrir notre famille.
      Ne doutons jamais que Jéhovah nous aidera si nous lui obéissons. Paul a cité ces paroles d’Habaqouq : « Le juste vivra en raison de la foi. » (Galates 3:11 ; Habaqouq 2:4) C’est pour cela que nous devons avoir une foi forte en Jéhovah, Celui qui peut vraiment nous aider. 
      D’après l'apôtre Paul, Jéhovah peut, en agissant en nous avec sa puissance, faire beaucoup plus que ce que nous demandons ou imaginons. (Éphésiens 3:20) Nous faisons tout notre possible pour faire la volonté de Jéhovah. Mais nous savons aussi que nous avons des limites. Alors nous sommes très heureux que Jéhovah soit avec nous et qu’il bénisse tous nos efforts.
      JÉHOVAH RÉPOND QUAND NOUS DEMANDONS PLUS DE FOI
      Que ressentons-nous à présent sur la qualité de la foi? Nous avons peut-être envie de demander comme les apôtres : « Donne-nous davantage de foi. » (Luc 17:5) Jésus a répondu à ses apôtres d’une façon particulière à la Pentecôte de l’année 33. Ce jour-là, ils ont reçu l’esprit saint et ils ont été capables de mieux comprendre le projet de Jéhovah. Cela a renforcé leur foi. Qu'elle fut le résultat?
      Ils ont commencé la plus grande activité de prédication jamais faite auparavant. (Colossiens 1:23) 
      Pouvons-nous espérer que Jéhovah réponde à nos prières quand nous lui demandons plus de foi ? 
      Oui, puisque nous le prions « selon sa volonté ». (1 Jean 5:14)
      Si nous avons totalement confiance en Jéhovah, il sera content de nous. Il répondra à nos prières pour avoir plus de foi. Alors, notre foi deviendra plus forte, et nous serons acceptés pour recevoir les bienfaits du Royaume de Dieu. (Hébreux 11 : 1)(Mathieu 17 :20)
      La foi est la certitude absolue que l'ont espère évidente de réalités invisibles. C'est en raison d'une telle foi, en effet que les hommes du passé ont reçu un témoignage favorable venant de Jéhovah le Seul vrai Dieu.
      Ayez une foi aussi gros qu'un grain de mourtarde car aucune obstacles de ce système de chose ne pourra vous atteindre, nous serons inébranlable par notre force de la foi.

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