Old school Communism, Socialism, Captialism

[Equivocation]

Socialism can be described in a single picture I guess, just to give you an idea:

[JW Insider]

Socialism is no panacea. But it should be noted that the primary problem that capitalists and imperialists have with socialism is that its policies are designed to produce better health care for all, better education, better infrastructure and to bring as many persons out of poverty as possible. This means that both global corporations and local corporations who wish to exploit oil, gas, metals, minerals, bananas, cheap labor, produce, etc., will not be able to keep huge profits for themselves. It is for this reason that imperialist countries like the United States will do everything they can to sabotage socialist and communist countries by exploiting and magnifying problems in those countries. This is why imperialist countries send in persons trained to create civil unrest as the US did in Hong Kong. It's why the US has troops and weapons in the China Sea, Taiwan, etc. It's why the US supported Al Qaeda in Syria. It's why economic there are sanctions against Venezuela, North Korea, Syria, Cuba, etc. The hope is that enough people will starve to death so that a revolution of some sort will result in a turnover of power that the US can take advantage of. At the very least it will supposedly reveal dissatisfaction with socialist governments. 

And, of course, its the reason that Westerners have been trained in anti-socialist propaganda so deeply that a meme like the one above from @Equivocation can be produced. Without a shred of awareness about the irony, the person making the meme will have picked a picture taken from a capitalist imperialist nation and use it to pretend that socialism caused the problems.

For example. I decided to look up "Kim's Lounge" on Google and immediately discovered that it's from Detroit in 2015 https://www.flickr.com/photos/raymondhaddad/20308429103

 

The grocery store picture I recall being used as if it were from Venezuela at a time when many such pictures were being taken from Miami and elsewhere just before a hurricane. I believe I already noted on this very forum a few years ago that one of them had all the shelf signs and labels that were 100% in English and yet it was being spread around as if from Venezuela. On Twitter, people had already identified many of these Venezuela pictures as actually coming from Florida.

I didn't try to find where the hospital picture is from, but it is typical of poor countries that are actually rich in resources, but whose resources have been exploited by imperialist countries.

And for the last picture, I don't think anyone would doubt that it could more easily have come, NOT from a socialist country, but is probably a good example of the disparity of wealth between the richest and poorest in typical capitalist countries. There are hundreds of houses that opulent on the north shore and east end of Long Island. I'm sure they are like that in many US neighborhoods.

These memes are easy to make, and easy to spread. But they should make us think twice about what's really behind them.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  

[Arauna]

On 11/24/2021 at 5:21 PM, Space Merchant said:

effectively increasing Socialism for the Billionaire Class.

I would call it stakeholder capitalism (Klaus schwab WEF-style...)  - and the rest of the populous and small millionaires/billionaires are all losing money.  All people are becoming more equal - will own nothing - similar to a feudal system.  All people owing money on their houses will soon lose their property - it is part of the agenda 2030 plan for the environment.

(definition of stakeholder - The primary stakeholders in a typical corporation are its investors, employees, customers, and suppliers.)  So the largest corporations on earth and banks will later own all land, and all resources and we - the sheeple - will rent what we need from them and get our rations from them.

[Arauna]

On 11/25/2021 at 1:25 PM, TrueTomHarley said:

didn’t capitalism get underway when people began pooling investments?

Interestingly - much of our modern financial laws - i.e. insurance law is based on very old 'maritime law' and the way people invested and pooled resources at the time.  This is a subject I have not studied in detail, but you will be surprised how many of our laws date from this period. International supply chain laws are all based on ancient maritime law right up to this day!.

 

[Arauna]

2 hours ago, JW Insider said:

This means that both global corporations and local corporations who wish to exploit oil, gas, metals, minerals, bananas, cheap labor, produce, etc., will not be able to keep huge profits for themselves.

The trickle down effect... or the "share" effect? We have heard this for such a long time - that billionaires will share.  Instead they created charity foundations that were secret organizations with which they took over the world. Sweden is capitalist as they make so much weapons for the world.  Their social system is good but it will also soon fail.  Human financial philosophy works only for a time.... then it falls apart due to greed and all the other selfish qualities humans have inside them. NONE of them work and we cannot make excuses for any of them!

[Pudgy]

11 hours ago, Arauna said:

Human financial philosophy works only for a time.... then it falls apart due to greed and all the other selfish qualities humans have inside them. NONE of them work and we cannot make excuses for any of them!

There is the old story comparing how different a Mathematician and a Physicist think.

There is a long hallway, and at one end is a naked Mathematician and a naked Physicist.

At the other end is a very lonely, long legged naked blonde gal.

The Mathematician and the Physicist are both alternately tasked with getting to the other end of the hallway, but are restricted by rules that state each time they try, they can only go HALF the remaining distance.

The Mathematician exclaims " .... but that means I will NEVER get there!"

The Physicist mutters "I can get close enough".

Capitalism is like that.

 

[Arauna]

2 hours ago, Pudgy said:

"I can get close enough".

At least, in theory! - lol