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As had been vocal about this before. We must teach and educate our children, when it comes to things such as sex, when it comes to money, when it comes to child abuse, resolving conflicts, bullying, and a list of other things, we must also teach our children about strangers (Stranger Danger as said in America)

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The Bible points out to teach our children so they may be wisdom. For among many of the better solutions, education is key: 

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Also learn the statistics regarding child kidnapping, some items I will link below

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The United States of America

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The United Kingdom (EU)

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Note: It is far worse for children because in most cases they are often end up in human sex trafficking, others into slave labor. In the EU, specifically the UK, you have the Grooming Gangs, which has a network in EU. Others being forced as brides and or mates, regardless of the victim's sex.

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Note: The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children provided some valuable information in the UK sources in the last link.

There's a lot more, but this will do.

My older post was directed to child abuse, but what is mentioned still applies, since child abuse services instruct parents and guardians to teach, we must do the same in other aspects of things such as about Strangers, be it the kidnapper is someone known or unknown:

 

Also another thing to note is even adults are kidnapped, primarily women, for as of recent a Florida woman who went to Costa-Rica on her 36th Birthday ended up vanishing, thus being kidnapped as some sources say, it is also noted that the driver was suspicious as well as some would say:

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While I was a little boy, I wanted to be a cop ... on a motorcycle. Later, in the age of teenage years, I liked films with martial arts. At the same time, my parents became JW and learned me differently. Then I became JW. And I did not become a cop who would hunt these bastards !!!
Today ... I'm not all that I could possibly become, but I'm not even a JW any more. I'm glad that I left.


The problem, with JW and similar groups, is that "they do not want to learn to fight", according to Isaiah verses.  But, they do not want to learn to defend themselves or others who need help in trouble, too. Adult JW or JW children should not go to self-defense courses because such an idea opposes JW's beliefs, religion. JW instruction, according to some biblical advice, is to scream loud, or run away. Sometimes that helps, but ..... to oppose the evil bastards you need much, much more. And I do not see, if God want to intervene (???) in your personal life (and not only in your life but in life of all other people who are victims), why He would not give you (and them) His approval in fighting against criminals. 

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2 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Does anyone here have a perfect plan and is qualified to implement that plan.

 

As a matter of fact, Billy ... I do have a perfect plan (almost) than CAN be implemented.

 

2 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Which government, religion, and institution can we think of that has mastered keeping our children safe. When their own parents can’t.

Some parents can .... and do.

Happy thoughts will not make it happen.

A Brother who was later convicted of raping another Sister, and who is now in prison, backed off from pursuing my daughter because she told him " ... my Dad will kill you ... yes, he will go to prison, but you will be dead!", and he knew that was true.

In a similar manner, if the Society had a global non-negotiable policy of  "All reports or suspicions of child sexual abuse, without exception, will be reported to the Police, and all  other Civil Authorities.", and use the two witness rule for internal deliberations .... the threat of certain punishment would deter almost all of these potential cases, except for the retarded or insane.

You wanted a real answer that would actually work.

There ... you have it ....  in one sentence.

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I am aware of all of that, Billy .... but the Perp in question knew about me, and believed my daughter.

I NEVER verbally threaten anyone.

EVER.

23 minutes ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Any society is incapable of finding the kind of solution dreamt in your head.

As usual, you are wrong about that.

You need to get out more.

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19 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

"All reports or suspicions of child sexual abuse, without exception, will be reported to the Police, and all  other Civil Authorities.", and use the two witness rule for internal deliberations

This is the ideal procedure. I have never been able to think of an alternative. 

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@Srecko Sostar Scream Loud and Run Away? What Bible verse says that?

We should not be fighting anyone at all. Some people like to try and provoke JWs to fight so they can record that information to weaponize it.

A Christian can defend themselves but clearly cannot make an attempt to kill someone. 

This is the difference of a Christian who does this compared to a Christian who believes he can be armed to attack and kill a man, a woman, or a child if they are seen as a threat. 

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@James Thomas Rook Jr. But now you have to deal with the laws of the land in this sense regarding child abuse and reporting such, and the fact that some people tend to not get involved with such because it can put them at risk themselves and or their household.

 

That being said, I have cut all electronic use for 2-3 weeks now and had gone off-grid, so to speak. I do not recall making a thread on this matter, but making a response to someone, even mentioning 2 videos of girls escaping their captors.

 

Odd, true, but I guess information like this has to be reviewed thoroughly by others.

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@Srecko Sostar So then regarding what yous said

Are you willing to kill/inflict harm on to someone regarding an event or no? Regardless of the answer - as a Christian?

Not a lot of us have such problems, let alone have the need to even consider such, in my case, I am already as intimidating as it is, but am a nice guy, other times, as mention before, I was compared to a WWE wrestler and a NFL player a few times, for in the US, people tend to not mess with you depending on appearance most of the time, sometimes be it of race or background as well.

I have met with Christians who are not following the Bible all the way and are willing and ready to kill people with a firearm, a rifle and or other that puts you in Sheol before you can spell "God". One example is regarding what took place on a college some weeks ago regarding atheist, and to quote one Christian he says

  • Deus Vult (meaning God Wills) these guys have been ruining Christianity for the longest time, they deserve death and should be killed on sight.
  • Other commentor: Dude chill your corn rolls, Christians should not be in such position to say such things. The Bible says do not murder [or kill]
  • [the two went back and forth about the word "kill" and bible strongs and the first guy sees the other guy as not a true Christian]
  • You are not a True Christian, you Protestant scum, a Christian is not by word, but of action
  • Other Commentor: Is it 420 already? I'm not a Protestant you idiot, you got prove to back that up? Regardless of what you say, we as Christians SHOULD NOT BE DOING THESE THINGS OR WISHING DEATH ON ANY MAN.
  • These atheist should die or be killed, regardless if they are a man, a woman even a child
  • Other commentor: You are crazy, God does not want us to be killers, we are under a new covenant. Let this sink in, demon, Jesus stopped his disciple from attacking someone with a sword, although he manage to cut his ear, take in the lesson of what Jesus said.
  • [Onward from this discussion other Christians hopped in to expose this guy]

 

I am paraphrasing from memory, but this discussion was a big one, it took place under an RT News video regarding religion some weeks ago.

Clearly not a lot of Christians are for taking someone's life, mainly if you have not done it before, and there are those justifying the old law to partake in the killing when Jesus abolished such and clearly arguments like this will take place.

You can defend yourself, but you cannot and should not kill, and as in defense, you should be able to defend without inflicting bodily harm because that is wrong and such can and will be used against you to make you appear as the villain, the bad guy. So if someone provokes you and you harm them, they will make a case that Srecko Sostar has hit them, should it be a woman who has provoked you, you will be, especially in America, in a world of hurt because she can claim physical and or sexual violence when in reality she was the aggressor who has provoked you.

That being said, what is wrong with Prophet Isaiah? You do realize some of what he said is still intact regarding even Bible Principles, right? Or should we cherry pick and pretend what has been said to not have some sort of importance?

Also violence begets more violence. Defending oneself in ignorance can and will put you and or your family, friends, even a bystander at risk where they end up injured and or dead themselves, most of these cases take place around the world, one of the common places are areas like Brazil. An example, taking action on someone may result in that person following you to your home, to your job, seeking you out and will spare no mercy or pity to anyone else hurt in the pursuit.

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9 hours ago, Equivocation said:

@Srecko Sostar Scream Loud and Run Away? What Bible verse says that?

We should not be fighting anyone at all. Some people like to try and provoke JWs to fight so they can record that information to weaponize it.

A Christian can defend themselves but clearly cannot make an attempt to kill someone. 

This is the difference of a Christian who does this compared to a Christian who believes he can be armed to attack and kill a man, a woman, or a child if they are seen as a threat. 

React quickly. Scream. (

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On the other hand, what if a person’s life is threatened by an assailant? A law that God gave to ancient Israel sheds light on this. If a thief was caught in the daytime and was killed, the assailant would be charged with murder. This was evidently because thievery did not carry the death penalty and the thief could have been identified and brought to justice. However, if an intruder was fatally struck at night, the householder could be exonerated because it would be difficult for him to see what the intruder was doing and to ascertain the intentions of the intruder. The householder could reasonably conclude that his family was under threat of harm and take defensive action.—

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The Bible thus indicates that a person may defend himself or his family if physically assaulted. He may ward off blows, restrain the attacker, or even strike a blow to stun or incapacitate him. The intention would be to neutralize the aggression or stop the attack. This being the case, if the aggressor was seriously harmed or killed in such a situation, his death would be accidental and not deliberate. - 

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WELL now, if in publication (and in Bible Law) authors giving space for PHYSICALLY defend self, with unknown outcome of such fight, why JWorg ban members to learn how to defend ???? self and others from crime attack???

 

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1 hour ago, Space Merchant said:

Also violence begets more violence. Defending oneself in ignorance can and will put you and or your family, friends, even a bystander at risk where they end up injured and or dead themselves, most of these cases take place around the world, one of the common places are areas like Brazil. An example, taking action on someone may result in that person following you to your home, to your job, seeking you out and will spare no mercy or pity to anyone else hurt in the pursuit.

Agree in general. But on other hand you can not stop violence without violence. Or to be said you can stop violence without violence in a few situations. NOT always, and not with people (attackers) who living for harm others. 

We can call that responsive/reacted violence as Justified violence, because we want to stop other to heart us. But as you aware,  you need some sort, some kind, some measure of Force to stop other to harm. Loud voice, scream,  can be viewed as some kind of  "weapon" to be used in stopping violent intention.  Raising a hand to prevent a kick is also a physical response, and you need reflex and skill how to prevent kick. And what to do after you have stopped first kick .... would you continue to only defending self if attacker continue to harm you or will it be possible to "neutralize" him in some way. Soft and mild words means nothing to some who have bad intentions.

At the end, Christians pray for Kingdom who will DESTROY all wicked. So, if Bible is book you believe, Bible say that Final Solution is Violence. Violence begets more violence .... from God.   

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The Policeman's  body language when he sat down on the edge of the table did the trick.

As Christians we should try to de-fuse any confrontations .... if we can.

Sometimes ... it does not depend upon us.

Knowing the techniques of how minds work is a necessary skill.

At 5AM, outside a hotel in Greenville, South Carolina, as I was going to my car to go to work, some guy came up to me and demanded money. He was very insistent.

In a calm low tone of voice I told him "I don't have any money ... in fact, if I emptied my gun in your stomach, I could not even afford more bullets."

He looks down, and sees my revolver.

"I want some money, man!"

I said "Let me be clear ... I am NOT going to give you any money."

He went away, and I went to work.

It's easier to be a peacemaker, when you "have the drop" on the bad guys, and they know it ..... AND ... you many times do not have to actually bet your life.

"STUFF HAPPENS", usually when you are not paying attention, or are a coward, and have what you think is a Bible Scripture to support that fear.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

WELL now, if in publication (and in Bible Law) authors giving space for PHYSICALLY defend self, with unknown outcome of such fight, why JWorg ban members to learn how to defend ???? self and others from crime attack???

An incompetent defense is no defense at all.

It's embarrassing to be killed because you were incompetent, and a fool.

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On 12/16/2018 at 4:02 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

Agree in general. But on other hand you can not stop violence without violence. Or to be said you can stop violence without violence in a few situations. NOT always, and not with people (attackers) who living for harm others. 

But even those who live in such conditions can deal with aggressors without the means of violence.

On 12/16/2018 at 4:02 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

We can call that responsive/reacted violence as Justified violence, because we want to stop other to heart us. But as you aware,  you need some sort, some kind, some measure of Force to stop other to harm. Loud voice, scream,  can be viewed as some kind of  "weapon" to be used in stopping violent intention.  Raising a hand to prevent a kick is also a physical response, and you need reflex and skill how to prevent kick. And what to do after you have stopped first kick .... would you continue to only defending self if attacker continue to harm you or will it be possible to "neutralize" him in some way. Soft and mild words means nothing to some who have bad intentions.

Not always a scream and or loud shouts can prevent an attack. In most cases it only encourages the attacker to continue, should the aggressor intent is to inflict harm out of hate, to rob, to rape, to send a message, in regards to gangs, affiliation should a kill is needed, thus people whoa re unaware ends up making themselves a target, otherwise they are just targeted.

In terms of what @Equivocation had said, you can defend yourself by blocking, and or preventing a blow from coming your way, therefore, self-defense in this sense can be used, grappling and or subduing. Self-Defense in regarding to striking a deadly blow and or to cripple is something you would not be doing at all, more so, you having the intent do commit heavy injury, even kill, it only put blood on your hands, mainly when you give in to some form of emotion in the moment and adrenaline rush.

In you want my experience, most aggressors will not go after people who are seen as intimidating, hence why I do not have this problem, however to someone who is not in my position, the aggressor would try to go after them, even if the person and or victim is unaware of ignorant of his or her surroundings.

On 12/16/2018 at 4:02 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

At the end, Christians pray for Kingdom who will DESTROY all wicked. So, if Bible is book you believe, Bible say that Final Solution is Violence. Violence begets more violence .... from God.   

Vengeance is not in your hands, it is in God's hands, for God is a God of Justice. However you can defend yourself without inflict harm, injury and or death to the aggressor.

On 12/16/2018 at 3:34 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

React quickly. Scream. (

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This attest to the practice of combat in terms of sharp vigilance, being aware of your surroundings, the people around you, who you are near and or with, and so forth, and the focus, as picked up from the examples is in regards to being in places whereas there are people around, although most people tend to suffer the Bystander Effect, but there will be some, if in some cases, who will take action in your behalf should you be in trouble. 

This allows you to call the police and or seek help and or go to a safe place. Active Self Protection promotes to get out of the danger zone and always be compliant.

You need an attitude, you need the skills and a plan. You cannot build a house without a plan and the skills to do it, likewise, when it comes to your safety.

On 12/16/2018 at 3:34 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

SECOND INSTRUCTION:

On the other hand, what if a person’s life is threatened by an assailant? A law that God gave to ancient Israel sheds light on this. If a thief was caught in the daytime and was killed, the assailant would be charged with murder. This was evidently because thievery did not carry the death penalty and the thief could have been identified and brought to justice. However, if an intruder was fatally struck at night, the householder could be exonerated because it would be difficult for him to see what the intruder was doing and to ascertain the intentions of the intruder. The householder could reasonably conclude that his family was under threat of harm and take defensive action.—

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The Bible thus indicates that a person may defend himself or his family if physically assaulted. He may ward off blows, restrain the attacker, or even strike a blow to stun or incapacitate him. The intention would be to neutralize the aggression or stop the attack. This being the case, if the aggressor was seriously harmed or killed in such a situation, his death would be accidental and not deliberate. - 

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Pretty much the point that was discus.

You can defend yourself, even having the know how to self defense without inflicting harm to someone, should they attempt to harm you, with self defense skills you can block, you can kick and so forth.

However, you will also have provokers, who will attempt to get you to fight, having the right attitude you can spot this to evade problems because this type of aggressor wants to get something out of you - a show, in order to slander you.

On 12/16/2018 at 3:34 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

WELL now, if in publication (and in Bible Law) authors giving space for PHYSICALLY defend self, with unknown outcome of such fight, why JWorg ban members to learn how to defend ???? self and others from crime attack???

They only tell their members they cannot inflict pain, harm, injury and or death. They can defense themselves without commit to any form of violence. In fact, there are those who in this domain who teaches this time of self-defense.

Now in an example, @Equivocation is a teenager, you are an adult,  and let's add Rook in this for the fun of learning, which of the two are you are most likely to be targeted? Another question I would pose the both of you is if you were both in a situation, let's say a Gas Station in Florida, a conflict rose up on one side of the Gas Station and a guy pulls out a crowbar and threatens to swing it at another man, the other guy pulls out a gun whereas you guys are nearby.What would be your attitude? Your Skill? And your Plan? Among all 3 that unifies all of them, what is the most important thing that one must do? Obvious screaming and shouting in this scenario will only make you a victim in this semi-public place.... And it's Florida.

On 12/16/2018 at 4:15 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

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Calming "violent" man with knife.

Off the bat, one thing I will tell you about Knife Attacks is that it is very, very, VERY HIGH in the United Kingdom, such as London, and Knife Attacks are very common. The same can be said for Asian countries. It is not as common in Russia however there was one knife attack, one of which I had seen whereas a lone woman was stab over and over and over again even though she had died - in a case like this the killer knew the person and how these attacks are fashioned, such things is evident.

An Aggressor with a Knife will draw you in, with gripping the knife in his or her other hand whereas someone with a guy will push you away with his or her free arm vs. the knife wielder.

Most of the time knife attacks will happen should the aggressor want to rob you, it is a different story if it is racism and or hating one's religion, examples would be Muslim woman for example in the UK, be it adult and or teen, knife wielders have not just their religion, but their race and or background and will spare no second in an attack, even while in a public place because they know they can commit the action before anyone reacts.

That being said, it all comes down to knowing things. Such as a disarm, you can disarm a knife from someone by means of wrestling it out of a person's hands without commit harm and or injury, and if you are that skilled, you can do the same with a gun.

But compliance in most cases is key, other items you will need a plan or two, a couple, in place.

On 12/15/2018 at 6:05 PM, Equivocation said:

@Srecko Sostar Scream Loud and Run Away? What Bible verse says that?

We should not be fighting anyone at all. Some people like to try and provoke JWs to fight so they can record that information to weaponize it.

A Christian can defend themselves but clearly cannot make an attempt to kill someone. 

This is the difference of a Christian who does this compared to a Christian who believes he can be armed to attack and kill a man, a woman, or a child if they are seen as a threat. 

Self-Defense without commit harm, injury and or killing.

And you are right, you should not take the life of and or seriously arm the aggressor.

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On 12/16/2018 at 3:12 PM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

An incompetent defense is no defense at all.

It's embarrassing to be killed because you were incompetent, and a fool.

The mistake many by a lot of people. Mainly those who attempt to fight back with 0% chance of winning the confrontation. At that point it is a one way ticket to sleeping in Sheol, only to way up some unknown years later during the Resurrection and say to yourself.

"Wow! I really messed up that time"

That being said, one has to be thinking, clearly and quickly, and not be lollygagging.

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11 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

You need an attitude, you need the skills and a plan. You cannot build a house without a plan and the skills to do it, likewise, when it comes to your safety.

Of course. Perhaps JWorg can start to produce that sort of video and cartoons to prepare own people for such moments because it is going from bad to worse. Naturally, practical exercises should also be included.

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On 12/18/2018 at 2:26 PM, Srecko Sostar said:

Of course. Perhaps JWorg can start to produce that sort of video and cartoons to prepare own people for such moments because it is going from bad to worse. Naturally, practical exercises should also be included.

Such an act is not something to be professed by those of any Christendom faith and or Islamic faith and or other.

That being said, I provided a scenario to you, Equivo and Rook - how would you 3 go about the situation? what would you do?

Since something of the like has been brought up by you, stuff like this one must be serious about.

An example I can being up today is a young man died today even though he complied (though in this rare situation, this guy was seeking blood), I will leave it at that, and since the killer is at large, the community of which I am speaking about is at an edge as police seeks the murderer. A close friend of mine knew the person, and was nearly victim only due to the fact he fell a slept at work for a mere 15 minutes, should he have chosen to go out to that area that was targeted, about 15 minutes a day, he would be in a morgue as we speak.

 

Things like this we have to be serious about.

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My solution would be to NOT actively encourage anybody being totally incompetent when violence strikes..

If you tell , and teach people to not learn how to defend themselves, and they trust you ... perhaps because you are  seemingly representing the will of God ...then ....  you SHARE responsibility for their deaths or injuries.

Stupid people, and victims of chance and circumstance, and/or deliberate evil .... do not need help to become MORE incompetent.

 

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23 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

My solution would be to NOT actively encourage anybody being totally incompetent when violence strikes..

If you tell , and teach people to not learn how to defend themselves, and they trust you ... perhaps because you are  seemingly representing the will of God ...then ....  you SHARE responsibility for their deaths or injuries.

Stupid people, and victims of chance and circumstance, and/or deliberate evil .... do not need help to become MORE incompetent.

 

And yet it does not negate the latter of them actually speaking on the matter of one defending themselves without committing to major injury of the foe and or killing them.

 

Reasons why I gave a legitimate example to which you, Srecko and the boy to speak on such a matter.

 

That being said, outside of waiting for the answer to scenario. When it comes to self-defense, you agree to injury and death or not and why?

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@Srecko Sostar The seriousness of the response still lingers, if self-defense and such situation is of that of a concern for you, you too should speak in all seriousness rather than be lighthearted on something that splits a path of action begetting consequence. But I guess screaming to those affected by the bystander effect is your only best option without doing anything.

 

One thing for certain, there are parts of the world to which some people will eat you alive, in not a literal sense, but in regards to targeting you.

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2 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

the matter of one defending themselves without committing to major injury of the foe and or killing them.

In matter of defending themselves, perhaps first thing in mind is about how to defend/escape/minimize injuries on you alone.... and, i think, you have no time and space to meditate about how to be nice and kind or not to kick too strong this hooligan. 

I have no experience in such situations. So, i guess, i would be beating to death if bastards find me in some dark place.    

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On 12/22/2018 at 2:09 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

In matter of defending themselves, perhaps first thing in mind is about how to defend/escape/minimize injuries on you alone.... and, i think, you have no time and space to meditate about how to be nice and kind or not to kick too strong this hooligan. 

I have no experience in such situations. So, i guess, i would be beating to death if bastards find me in some dark place.    

It still does not answer the question, to make it easier for you what is the number one thing of key importance be it if you are fighting and or fleeing? It pertains to the scenario I asked you to speak of, but even outside of it, this one thing is of importance and even taught to those who train in various forms of combat and self-defense, and or those who have a license to carry.

 

If you do not know this, how can you evade such problems and or confrontations without escalation?

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@James Thomas Rook Jr. The seriousness of what is being asked of is still in the air.

That being said, you'd seriously go down like that even though the aggressor isn't in a position to inflict major harm? I can prove some examples, but, in all seriousness, surely you have other options, be mainly if you are unarmed.

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3 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

That being said, you'd seriously go down like that even though the aggressor isn't in a position to inflict major harm?

Ignorance of the future is what gets people dead, dead, dead.

Ever notice that one man with a knife, surrounded by police with guns, often gets shot to death?

That is because THEY KNOW that it only takes 3/8 of a second for a determined man with a knife TO KILL YOU, from a distance of 21 feet away.

It would be embarrassing to look down at a mortal wound, and before fading to black, say "OOPS! ... guess I was wrong!".

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3 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

I can prove some examples, but, in all seriousness, surely you have other options, be mainly if you are unarmed.

A man being unarmed is like having a car without gasoline, a flashlight without batteries,  an uncharged fire extinguisher, and a camera without film or an SD card, or run on gravel without shoes.

And Yet ....some people EXULT in their determined incompetence, and un-preparedness.

Throw your cell phone at them!

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@James Thomas Rook Jr. Let's be serious Rook. Regarding self-defense and active protection, regardless of who you are, a workman, a priest, a cheerleader, an engineer, a dog walker, etc.

What is the one key thing that all people in this realm of defense must know?

This is common knowledge regarding self-defense.

13 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Perhaps the reason for this is, that we have much more questions than answers in life.

I'm asking you this one key thing in regards to self-defense and protecting oneself with or without the ability to inflict harm and or death.

This is self-protection 101, why is it still you cannot answer when such a thing is of high importance?

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20 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

@James Thomas Rook Jr. Let's be serious Rook. Regarding self-defense and active protection, regardless of who you are, a workman, a priest, a cheerleader, an engineer, a dog walker, etc.

What is the one key thing that all people in this realm of defense must know?

This is common knowledge regarding self-defense.

I'm asking you this one key thing in regards to self-defense and protecting oneself with or without the ability to inflict harm and or death.

This is self-protection 101, why is it still you cannot answer when such a thing is of high importance?

 

Krav Maga teacher in one school for self defense say:   Our motto is 'No egos! Stay humble!!'

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6 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

 

Krav Maga teacher in one school for self defense say:   Our motto is 'No egos! Stay humble!!'

This still does not answer the question. Yes one can stay humble (although it sounds like something plastered in parts of a gym and or weight room) but when it comes to self-defense, there is one key component that is applied to those trained and untrained. This also leads to a step as to where what I am asking you for begets action done by person and or victim and or bystander should things escalate and or in the conflict in question (be it minor or major, to the most extreme).

I will ask you again, Srecko, for you were adamant of defense, so such a elementary question should not be this difficult to answer.

This is self-protection 101, why is it still you cannot answer when such a thing is of high importance?

 

To give you a hint, it is simply ONE word. It isn't this hard.

 

That being said, do you even know Krav Maga? And out of curiosity, the name of the teacher who said that and his current belt class.

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6 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

I'm asking you this one key thing in regards to self-defense and protecting oneself with or without the ability to inflict harm and or death.

This is self-protection 101, why is it still you cannot answer when such a thing is of high importance?

How about "Be somewhere else" ?

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17 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

How about "Be somewhere else" ?

Well you can't be somewhere else if the conflict is nearby and or in your actual location. Unless you somehow found a way for instant teleportation - that is understandable, but in all seriousness of active protection, this key component that is being asked of from the both of you is vital, and it is necessary.

 

After all, something of this sort should be of seriousness to you also, Rook, for it is to me, and those who have said awareness and a bit of experience in this regard.

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100and10% true or 110% if we want be precise in writing :))))

Take me for example in this ..... I had never went on public sports events. So, i had never been drunk in a mass of people, never get punch, never screaming and  cheering for a team ....and many more.

Why? Because i was always "somewhere else". :))))

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EXACTLY.

One time in Western Virginia, circa 1966, there was a race riot and people filled the streets, blocking traffic ... and I came upon them unexpectedly.  They stopped my car and I could not pass. 

VERY angry people.

I just took out my revolver, and put it on the dashboard of my car... and BEHOLD! ... the crowd parted like Moses marching through the sea ... and I went on my way.

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19 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

People that have poor decision making ability, and never plan ahead ... are NEVER "somewhere else".

"Stuff Happens".

And yet it does not negate what is being asked to you and Srecko.

2 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

EXACTLY.

One time in Western Virginia, circa 1966, there was a race riot and people filled the streets, blocking traffic ... and I came upon them unexpectedly.  They stopped my car and I could not pass. 

VERY angry people.

I just took out my revolver, and put it on the dashboard of my car... and BEHOLD! ... the crowd parted like Moses marching through the sea ... and I went on my way.

Not all the time because in some circumstances, it is an invitation to a gun fight for some people, and or an invitation to the person in question to be a target, as is with one female which in her case, it did not end well for her; since I am unfazed by graphic material, I will leave to your imagination as to why had occurred.

2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

100and10% true or 110% if we want be precise in writing :))))

Take me for example in this ..... I had never went on public sports events. So, i had never been drunk in a mass of people, never get punch, never screaming and  cheering for a team ....and many more.

Why? Because i was always "somewhere else". :))))

The problem with this is it is not only places like this, you have soft targets as well and or minor targets.

 

That being said, the question still stands, and as for the Krav Maga teacher, I am beginning to think he is non-existent if you can't even profess his or her belt class. I can name a few if need be, even for BJJ, Judo, etc. for in a respectful sense and credibility, one can simply bring up belt class and the latter can find and or loop up the person with or without a name.

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2 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

EXACTLY.

One time in Western Virginia, circa 1966, there was a race riot and people filled the streets, blocking traffic ... and I came upon them unexpectedly.  They stopped my car and I could not pass. 

VERY angry people.

I just took out my revolver, and put it on the dashboard of my car... and BEHOLD! ... the crowd parted like Moses marching through the sea ... and I went on my way.

Very long ago I heard an anecdote about the gun.

An older man was driving the car in the streets of Zagreb. Suddenly he must stop the car. In front of him there were some young people who blocked the road with their motorcycles. He came out and asked them to move motors, so he could pass. The guys started laughing and they told him; "Come on, grandpa, count us and see how many of us there are.

He returned to the car, took the gun, came back to them and asked; "From whom do I start counting?"

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@Srecko Sostar Well he is very lucky those guys are not armed. As of recent, a thief entered a guy's home, long story short, he got the upper hand on the guy with the home owner's own gun.

 

That being said, what I am asking you and Rook about of what is of high importance connections to some situations like this. Your example is like that of several cases in Brazil.

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@Space Merchant Well if it were up to be I'd be way too panicky to do anything. However I am the kind of person who would take random action without thinking straight. One instance would be a friend and me helping someone woman who was in shock while her car was about to catch on fire. Although we didn't do much when the firefighters too over, they said we were the only ones who reacted and took the initiative. I remember that day my heart was racing. My old man taught me to always help out and even gave some lessons before a bible study, but this situation was sudden.

I would guess the thing you are looking for is

Awareness of one's surroundings and taking the initiative.

 

In Jersey there is a small neighborhood community who is discussing protecting children and one core thing that is being talked about is teaching kids, it also goes for making wise choices and association. 

I'm still a younger, so there's a lot I don't know yet but things I do know benefits me.

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@Equivocation @Srecko Sostar @James Thomas Rook Jr.

And since December, not a word from the 3 of you about this sole word when it comes to the realm of self defense and the like.

I will say it here for you since this answer will not cometh from either of you:

Compliance. It is an action commit by those when they are in such a situation, mainly in the example I professed. It is not the best one, but in terms of self defense, it is a second nature type of tactic unknowingly or unknowing committed depending on the situation and or events that lead up to such things.

And child, when and how did this happen? In my head, I am thinking of when the car starts to smoke, and then ignite into flames and fire, and eventually explode. One of the common things that causes such, overheating.

Aside from that, the situations have worsen, our children are not protected even on the social plain, such as YouTube and other forms of chat and communication that they use today. Know what your child are doing, speak with them because anyone can talk to them or lure them by means of these forms of media. We live in a day and age whereas people seek to cause harm and prey on children, such ones by going into schools, churches, and clubs, what have you. Education enables a child to react before an attack is made or an attack made by someone else, and this is vital, an example of an uneducated child, as of recent, is what is taking place in the realm of homosexuality and the trans community, and apparently, those who seek to prevent ill action are at a loss here vs. those who educate.

Again, better solutions at work.

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Not a whole lot of peeps are compliant. Some will often feel the urge to fight back.

In a setting for younger guys and gals, sometimes we feel that something can be done if a peer is in trouble. The teachers encourage us to resolve conflict in the best way possible, for me I take it a step further by applying Bible principles also. There are people out there that get proved waaaaay to easily. 

Now younger guys and gals who are in elementary or middle school, not always they hey that kind of education and the whole situation with bullying and early depression and all that can o' worms business. 

It's like a repeating cycle that never ends. It can't be stopped but only prevented and or resolved if you are lucky. Kind of like an assembly line with boxes of problems and issues lol, my friend's boyfriend complains about jobs like that but he keeps the job to earn money until he can go back to school 🤣😄

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@Equivocation Not every child such as you are fortunate. I can tell you this, some have it greater than you, some have it vastly worse than you. Children, if not taught, if not discipline, they can get into some crazy things, which brings me to when it comes to protecting out children, what today's day and age is mentally feeding our kids.

Bullying is always a problem, a good friend of mind took her life over it due to the embarrassment of something immoral, which she was seduced into doing. The one who is the aggressor, in this case, tends to be, at some point the victim.

We can teach and educate in this regard, but we cannot prevent it, just as we cannot 100% stop, abuse, gun violence, war and other things, for people think there is a miracle plan to causing all such things to perish, but they need to open their eyes to the reality of the situation. Some situations can be prevented, others cannot, some can be halted, some blow up into some bigger and difficult to control, etc.

Complying, in this regard, is used on default by many, even among the trained. They, if they have an opportunity, can act, if they know what they are doing, the latter would be someone taking action and failing whereas it could lead into problems and someone losing their life. So regarding this, some people would have to play ti safe and smart.

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The irony here is that we see people bring forth the idea of self-defense yet when it comes to core things to know in this regard, nothing has been said. This concise with what we should be teaching our children and nothing has been said expect the latter. With recent events, it should be made known that even adults need to be educated in some sense because they too reap consequence from their actions, so it can be said, not children alone, but rather all people.

Some grown folks should know better: 

    Hello guest!

The actions of even older folk of the same blood can cause not just consequence to them, but to their own. Clearly they didn't learn that it is not ok to cheat.

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@Space Merchant Well everyone needs to be educated. As for self defense, I wouldn't know all aspects of that. But yeah I don't know how it was for you guys, but in my case people today are only proving Prophet Isaiah's point. Isaiah 5 verse 20. Some kids are getting the oh so wrong type of education, amigo. 

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2 hours ago, Equivocation said:

Well everyone needs to be educated. As for self defense, I wouldn't know all aspects of that. But yeah I don't know how it was for you guys, but in my case people today are only proving Prophet Isaiah's point. Isaiah 5 verse 20. Some kids are getting the oh so wrong type of education, amigo. 

Indeed, everyone. As for self-defense all I've uttered is the elementary stuff compared to the middle to high level things. What I brought up is common with all persons in all levels of self-defense.

And yes, that verse is indeed correct in regards to this situation of this world

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

That being said, they've integrated things into the schools and professing such as normal to the children, even outside of the churches, clubs and educational institutions, we have influence from communities that pushes people, young people to do bad things, i.e. having a 10-11 year old child dancing for money in bars. Clearly that is not right, but should you say anything about it you are attacked, and in this sense that is in the realm of child abuse in of itself, and clearly no one bats an eye.

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On 12/12/2018 at 11:43 AM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

the threat of certain punishment would deter almost all of these potential cases, except for the retarded or insane.

Or.....they would make damn sure they never got caught. But yes, I agree, report all child abuse to the relevant authorities, clergy privilege or no clergy privilege.

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I'd like to add that another thing we must talk to our children about is suicide, as well as mental illness. To be brief, either of these isn't an easy subject to talk about, especially regarding the age of said child, and where they are in terms of wisdom and understanding. I say this because someone of blood nearly took her life several weeks ago due to some dark and wick things from the islands coupled with brutality manifested here in the states nearly led to the teenager's death. She is doing better now, but my reason for bringing this up is because some else whom I have had an somewhat brief encounter with succumb to suicide. Although he was an adult, but it still stings, and in my case, it brings up a friend of mine who took her life due to influence from pornography and the adult industry who took her. Regarding of who had succumb to his inner demons, mental illness and the temptation of being in and seeking the spotlight is a bad combination. Despite such things, it bolsters my faith in Yahweh and his only beget whom he made the Christ, Jesus. Because by means of God through Jesus, there will be a resurrection.

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The "two witness" rule that the watchtower forces upon victims of child abuse in its' organisation is tantamount to turning a blind eye.

As if an abuser is going to abuse kids in front of 2 or witnesses?!

 

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8 hours ago, Jesus.defender said:

The "two witness" rule that the watchtower forces upon victims of child abuse in its' organisation is tantamount to turning a blind eye.

As if an abuser is going to abuse kids in front of 2 or witnesses?!

 

It was debunked here as to what that rule actually is.

 

To quote myself:

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The article goes on to say, it directed NBC News to its "scripturally based position on child protection," a two-page document on its website that intersperses Biblical references with denouncements of child abuse and outlines how the congregation aims to protect its children, and it says the following: "When elders learn of an accusation of child abuse, they immediately consult with the branch office of Jehovah’s Witnesses to ensure compliance with child abuse reporting laws. (Romans 13:1) Even if the elders have no legal duty to report an accusation to the authorities, the branch office of Jehovah’s Witnesses will instruct the elders to report the matter if a minor is still in danger of abuse or there is some other valid reason," says one bullet point in the document.

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Now, they've mentioned the whole Two Witness Ruling the faith group has and according to NBC they stated the following: one that requires two witnesses to a crime to prove guilt, a tenet that's in keeping with the Witnesses' strict, often literal interpretation of the Bible.

There is more to it and not much is known when people do not do the research.

We already know Jehovah's Witnesses are Restorationist, meaning they take the Bible seriously, for Restorationism, also described as Christian primitivism, is the belief that Christianity has been or should be restored along the lines of what is known about the apostolic early church, which restorationists see as the search for a more pure and more ancient form of the religion. Fundamentally, "this vision seeks to correct faults or deficiencies (in the church) by appealing to the primitive church as a normative model." according to The Encyclopedia of the Stone-Campbell Movement: Christian Church (Disciples of Christ).

As for their rule, to them, their policy of  states: "When any one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local congregation elders are expected to investigate. Two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter. For this is based in Deuteronomy 19:15 and reaffirmed in Matthew 18:15-17.

From this alone, it should be noted that this two witness ruling has nothing to do with whether the alleged abuse is reported to the authorities, despite what some people even NBC is led to believe, for we have to thank the ARC to better clarify this rule the WT has. For even though they have this policy and or ruling, even in their books and publications  never state that abuse or crime should not be reported unless there are two witnesses to the crime, case and point.

The two witness rule as applied by Jehovah's Witnesses and their church is only applied to determine if a judicial committee should be formed to handle any form/type of sin and or wrongdoing within the JW church itself, hence internally criminally, for JWs are not Law Enforcement. WT pastors also send letters to the elders and stewards of their church to show that anyone is free to report child abuse to the authorities at any time without sanctions from the church, even encouraging such reporting.

But again, people who do not do the research themselves will constantly say that this is bad policy since child molesters usually do not attack their target with others around, such also are lead to believe that and or even profess that this ruling protects the abuser and not the abused. Granted JWs take the Bible both seriously and literally, such ruling stems from the Bible itself, regarding them, for they, and or the bible, according to how this ruling is, repeatedly speaks of the need for two witnesses to establish any matter, as seen in a few verses for example: Matthew 18:16, 2 Corinthians 13:1,  and 1 Timothy 5:19.

And because of this like this, people tend to throw things out the window, even calling these Bible  and passages like these obscure and not applicable in these modern times - for they forget that Jehovah's Witnesses, are Restorationist, for Restorationist do everything in their power to separate themselves from mainstream Christendom and align themselves with the how everything was done in the early church, thus taking scripture literally, therefore they, the Jehovah's Witnesses, believe that it is best for them to follow the words of the son of God and the inspired apostle Paul rather than the opinions of others, hence their strong stance.

So the fact of the matter is, many people, even NBC, do not realize just what the two witness ruling entails without making the research. Others may know but they don't want you to know and just so they try to hide just who or what can serve as two witnesses, in this sense.

With all these facts, it is unscriptural to apply excommunication an individual at the mouth of one witness, in terms of ruling, for God's word should take precedent over the thinking of imperfect ones. Regarding Jehovah's Witnesses, applying the two witness ruling, on their part, is reasonable and logical, and clearly not to otherwise deny the Bible itself.

The situation is a bit different regarding a single witness, but a bit of research one can actually understand it.

Also it should be noted that even such ruling is even practiced by those of law if I am not mistaken.

And I doubt you have a care for children yourself. As it shows here by your comment for you have nothing good to say in regard to teaching children. The children I know, the children I teach, they've been talked about regarding mental illness, suicide, about sex, about a list of other things. In the same sense we teach them about strangers, we teach them about these things so they can look out for themselves and for others. Wisdom is key. With it it allows said child and or children to become stronger in this sense, and it helps for us to reach to better solutions to increase prevention of stuff such as child abuse and a list of others.

Do yourself a favor, how about you educate the people on how to prevent, for clearly you do not have the experience that I have granted by your response.

 

Now, let's put you to the test, 1 John 4:1, this is a situation with one teenager I helped, who has not relapsed for about a year now.

Since the age of 8, this child was thrown into the world of pornography and masturbation and evidently it pushed him to eventually be addicted to it, and later on in life began to see and think of sex in a bad way. This caused him to think badly and have inappropriate thoughts of every girl he sees, he even states every woman he sees. He cannot escape this for even images and ads, commercial show such things that triggers him to go into sexual immorality in an instant. After he relapsed from his addiction he feels guilt and he says whenever he did this, his mind was blank, he also stated that sometimes he tries to think of the good things he did, friends and family to prevent him from doing what he is doing, but as stated, his mind goes blank. This person is now 19 years of age, and with what I did and what his family did helped him out, for in my case, my own brother, God fearing like me, had issues with pornography in the past, and I lost a friend to suicide because of pornography when people began spreading her image and face all over the internet. I will not tell you what was done to help the teen, but I ask you, if you really cared about children then what would you have done?

What would have been the approach on your part when dealing with someone who is in too deep in this addiction that seems to be one of the greatest folly of man?

That being said, if you have nothing really to contribute in terms of teaching and helping children then keep silent.

 

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13 hours ago, Jesus.defender said:

As if an abuser is going to abuse kids in front of 2 or witnesses?!

The abused child is one of the witnesses to the crime. If the abuser admits his crime, then the abuser becomes the second witness to the crime.

(This only means that the congregation will not automatically take disciplinary action against the accused. It should never be used to avoid or discourage reporting the accusation to authorities.)

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11 hours ago, JW Insider said:

It should never be used to avoid or discourage reporting the accusation to authorities.)

No, and I have been witness to two elders, unprovoked, tell me irrespective of each other that if there is ever a case of reported child abuse, the victim and/or parents are specifically told that regardless whether there is proof or not,  if they want to contact the police it is their absolute right to do so and there will be no repercussions from the elders (which actually is a sad thing to have to say..... as if  contacting the police would ever warrant repercussions....but, as we know, historically this was sometimes the case. However, this was never the organizations policy as far as I know, but it was more a personal decision by some elders).

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@Anna The guardian and or parents should always contact and or commune with the police. All are instructed to do such, for even those who educate in child abuse profess this. But this may become more common as such, for there was something I debated and discussed with others that is slowly becoming a reality. Give it a few years and you will see the line between child and adult will become smaller and open doors that should not be opened.

But at the end of the day, adults should be educated on this matter, it helps, a lot. If educating helps the children, it will greatly help the adults so should any abuse happens, it better helps out those in question. The truth of the matter also is that all this does is reduce the chances and helps prevention, for as I told the man who cannot see with his eyes nor read with his lips, that child abuse cannot be 100% stopped, which is the same situation, and argument, I had with those regarding world powers.

Aside from that, internal investigations will always be done, even corporate business like ones do it all the time, for instance, there is one of the biggest data centers, bank, in the US right now, for in one of it's buildings someone was not only spouting racist banter, built he was willing to kill several people using box cutter until stopped by security. The internal investigation was done by the owner of said building and a small group of people with no employee knowing what went down in the facility itself besides a small number of techs, 1-3 people, security guards and the boss of the building. Another example of internal investigation regarding a teacher and student in a trade school, as is already known, sexual immortality when Hurricane Sandy hit the Tri-State area.

But yes, it is no surprise to anyone that churches and faith communities are capable of internal investigations in which opponents of said faith and others attack such ones for it. What some do not realize, as this was pointed out by Solider of God, a friend of mine, a while back, that people who often attack others about child abuse in their community day in and day out are usually the ones who allow pedophiles to go to said communities to target children. And as we have now, the serialization of children, the teachings of such vile sin in the schools, etc.

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4 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

Give it a few years and you will see the line between child and adult will become smaller and open doors that should not be opened

You are probably right there

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4 minutes ago, Anna said:

You are probably right there

In a way some sparks have already flicker. I do not know if you are aware of this but some weeks ago, there was a child performing and dancing at a gay bar, with people throwing money at him, as pointed out by others, even by me in the past, this only entices pedophiles more to target such ones, as for the child in question, it puts him in a vulnerable state. Aside from this children are being sexualized. The irony of this, the same people who support this shoot down those who speak against it, but when we defend a 14 year old girl who also speaks truth about what is going out, we are spoken of as the enemies. They are starting them young too in the schools.

That being said, the strongest ones who say child abuse this or that in either of the left or the right are usually the ones supporting this nonsense.

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22 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

In a way some sparks have already flicker. I do not know if you are aware of this but some weeks ago, there was a child performing and dancing at a gay bar, with people throwing money at him, as pointed out by others, even by me in the past, this only entices pedophiles more to target such ones, as for the child in question, it puts him in a vulnerable state. Aside from this children are being sexualized. The irony of this, the same people who support this shoot down those who speak against it, but when we defend a 14 year old girl who also speaks truth about what is going out, we are spoken of as the enemies. They are starting them young too in the schools.

That being said, the strongest ones who say child abuse this or that in either of the left or the right are usually the ones supporting this nonsense.

I have heard it said that soon pedophilia will be classed as just another sexual orientation and that pedophiles will feel discriminated against and will insist on their "rights".

Just to lighten things up a bit, are you the "man on the rocks" ?  😄: Cool song actually

 

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On 6/29/2019 at 11:10 PM, Anna said:

I have heard it said that soon pedophilia will be classed as just another sexual orientation and that pedophiles will feel discriminated against and will insist on their "rights".

It's already in motion, slowly but surely. I am still in an ongoing debate with someone concerning age of consent. I make it vital to speak against slander, to teach the good gospel, and among other things, to educate people even young ones regarding legitimate dangers to them. Such has spread to apps and media such as YouTube whereas they cannot better equip themselves to combat it sadly.

On 6/29/2019 at 11:10 PM, Anna said:

Just to lighten things up a bit, are you the "man on the rocks" ?  😄: Cool song actually

Thank you, for at least today music is good, for in my case, usually every other day something pops up, and during those days I tend to aid said community, for there was unfortunate news just some days ago leaving us, even me with questions that have no answers.

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On 7/13/2019 at 1:40 PM, Equivocation said:

We had a talk about child abuse. One point, well 2 was made.

Educating people, the second being to talk to kids about sex.

 

Every bit helps. 

And what have you learned regarding helping the children concerning talking to them about such things? Information you convey here and give insight to those on this forum and any onlooker who is a guest.

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And after a while, you and Rook has not brought up anything? Concerning child abuse, in the months I was away, what I can say is that there is more stains on the Americans and the British regarding children, and aside from that the same people who cry out and call to combat child abuse often become the offenders themselves and or indirectly encourage and snare. I have a lot to say about this, so I will point this out when I have time.

That being said, you learn some things when you are preaching the gospel, and gain some informative insight on the current state of things in today's world.

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      The father of the girls, ages 13 and 15, has said his daughters and their mother were having breakfast Monday morning with another couple when they decided to have some tea recently brought back from a trip overseas. The father said the tea was from India, but the family that was allegedly kidnapped said one of the accused had travelled earlier in the year to Thailand and South Korea.
      "It's absolutely crazy," said the father, who cannot be named due to a court publication ban protecting the identity of youths involved in the case.
      "It's a scary thought thinking, 'Oh, let's try this tea that we purchased.' And then all sit down thinking they're just going to have a nice morning and end up in that circumstance."
      He said the girls don't remember what happened.
      The Mounties have not said if they're investigating whether a hallucinogenic tea motivated the alleged crime but have said drugs and/or alcohol may have played a role.
      Chris Purdy, The Canadian Press

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      A Reedsport woman was arrested after allegedly trying to kidnap a 6-year-old and resisting arrest in a Jehovah’s Witnesses Kingdom Hall earlier this month.
      Denise Estrella Valdez Cardenas, 26, was charged with assaulting a public safety officer, resisting arrest, fourth-degree assault, harassment, third-degree criminal mischief, second-degree disorderly conduct and two counts of coercion.
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      Footage purportedly showing Boko Haram’s new leader has emerged online, displaying a masked gunman demanding that Nigeria’s government release their fighters in exchange for the abducted Chibok schoolgirls.
       
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      An Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) member with a P600,000 reward for his capture was arrested in Zamboanga City Thursday.
      Arrested was Bads Adjam, with aliases “Pa Malod” and “Abu Jihad,” who is wanted for his involvement in the kidnapping of six Jehovah’s Witnesses members in Patikul, Sulu in 2002 and 21 foreign and local tourists in Sipadan, Malaysia, in 2000.
      Police Senior Supt. Billy Tamayo, the chief of Criminal Investigation and Detection Group-National Capital Region (CIDG-NCR), identified the arrested suspect.
      In his report to Police Chief Supt. Roel B. Obusan, acting director of the CIDG, Tamayo said operatives composed of the NCR-CIDG based in Region 9 and Naval Intelligence Security Group-Western Mindanao, apprehended the suspect at Sta. Maria, Zamboanga City, on Thursday.

      Zamboanga City map (Photo courtesy of Google Maps)
      Obusan said the arrest was made possible by virtue of a warrant of arrest with Criminal Case No. 815-3 for six counts of Kidnapping and Serious Illegal Detention with Ransom issued by the Regional Trial Court (RTC) 9th Judicial Region, Branch 4, in Parang, Sulu.
      Tamayo said that aside from the kidnapping of six Jehovah’s Witnesses, the suspect was also included in Criminal Case Numbers 122473H-122493H for kidnapping and Serious Illegal Detention (21 counts) issued by the Pasig City Regional Trial Court Branch 262 for the kidnapping of 10 Malaysians, nine Europeans and two Filipino resort workers in Sipadan Island, Malaysia, in 2000.
      Tamayo added that the suspect has a monetary reward of P600,000 as per Department of National Defense (DND) and Department of the Interior and Local Government (DILG) joint order on reward number 15-2012 dated November 2012.
      The suspect is presently detained at the CIDG-NCR lock-up cell for documentation and proper disposition prior to his turn over to the court concerned.


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    • Eric Ouellet

      Ne dormons pas comme les autres, demeurons éveiller et restons confiant en Jéhovah, le Dieu de Toute BÉNÉDICTION 
       
      Voici une petite histoire qui va nous faire réfléchir, sur nos qualités, que nous devons manifester en notre être, nous serviteur de Dieu. Comment et qu'elles sont les qualitées que nous devons manifester en actions, envers notre prochain, envers nos ennemis, envers Dieu, envers Jésus, pour Être porté, par le Maître du temps, Au jour de Dieu?
      Quelle est la priorité principale d'un serviteur de Dieu et que devons nous principalement mettre en pratique dans notre vie, pour Être sauvez par celui qui a préparé le chemin de nos pas, pour notre Salut?
      Le titre de cette courte histoire, nous dévoile ce qui adviendra aux serviteurs de Dieu remplis d'amour, Au Grand, jour de Dieu.

      Le Titre est:
      QUI VEUT BIEN DE L’AMOUR ?

      Voici cette petite histoire:
      Un jour, plusieurs différents sentiments cohabitaient tous ensemble sûr une Ile: le Bonheur, la Tristesse, le Savoir ; ainsi que tous les autres, l’Amour y compris. Un jour, on annonça aux sentiments de la région , que l’île où tous vivaient, allait couler. Ils préparèrent donc tous leurs bateaux et partirent. Seul l’Amour resta. L’Amour voulait rester jusqu’au dernier moment. Quand l’île fût près à sombrer, l’Amour décida d’appeler à l’aide à ces concitoyens. Le premier fut "La Richesse" qui passa à côté de l’Amour, dans un luxueux bateau. L’Amour lui dit : « Richesse, peux-tu m’emmener ? »Alors la Richesse lui dit : Non! mon ami l'Amour, " je ne peux t'aider, car il y a beaucoup d’argent et d’or sur mon bateau et je n’ai pas assez de place pour toi." Bonne chance Amour.
      La richesse laissa Amour dans les eaux profondes qui l'entourait et continua son chemin. L’Amour décida alors de demander à l’Orgueil, qui passait aussi dans un magnifique bateau. Alors l'Amour s'exclama « Orgueil, aide-moi, je t’en prie ! » l'Orgueil répondit à l'Amour« je ne puis t’aider, Amour. Tu es tout mouillé et tu pourrais endommager mon bâteau. L'Orgueil, n'aida en aucune manière l'Amour et continua à voguer sur les eaux immense. Plus tard »La Tristesse passa à côté, de l’Amour. L'Amour lui demanda :«"Tristesse, laisses-moi venir avec toi. » la tristesse le regarda et dit: « Ooh… Amour, je suis tellement triste que j’ai besoin d’être seule ! Bonne chance Amour". L'Amour ne se découragea pas et se laissa porter sur les eaux. Quelle minutes plus tard » Le Bonheur passa aussi à côté de l’Amour , mais il était si heureux, qu’il n’entendit même pas l’Amour l’appeler! Soudain, une voix dit sur un bateau de lumière immaculée comme ressemblant à des nuages matérialisés " Viens Amour," je te prends avec moi." L'Amour distingua que celui qui le prit sur son bateau blanc immaculé, était un vieillard, de lui venait les paroles de son sauveur des eaux tulmultueuses. L’Amour se senti si reconnaissant et plein de joie, qu’il en oublia de demander le nom au vieillard. Lorsqu’ils arrivèrent sur la terre ferme, le vieillard s’en alla. L’Amour réalisa combien, il lui devait pour l'avoir sauvé, et aussitôt un Être apparut à l'Amour, Cette personne qui apparut devant lui était "Le Savoir" de toutes choses, alors l'Amour qui était devant Lui, demanda au Savoir :« Qui m’a aidé ? »Le Savoir Dit« C’était "le Temps" » répondit le Savoir.« Le Temps ? » s’interrogea l’Amour.« Mais pourquoi le Temps m’a –t-il aidé ? » Le Savoir sourit, plein de sagesse, et répondit :« C’est parce que seul le Temps est capable de comprendre combien l’Amour est important dans la vie. »
      Que veux dire cette histoire que je vous aie raconté?
      Je vais laisser votre pensée réfléchir en cette histoire et je vais donner l'explication de cette histoire à la fin de ce discours.





      Restons vivifiant d'un Amour sincère.


      DANS de nombreux pays, nous avons recourt de plus en plus aux caméras de surveillance pour observer la circulation routière et filmer les accidents. En cas de délit de fuite, ces enregistrements peuvent permettre à la police de retrouver et d’arrêter le chauffard. À vrai dire, avec ces yeux électroniques un peu partout, il est de plus en plus difficile d’échapper aux conséquences de ses actes.
      Cet abondant recours à la vidéosurveillance, devrait-il, nous rappeler un tant soit peu notre Père bienveillant, Jéhovah ? La Bible dit en effet que ses yeux « sont en tout lieu » (Prov. 15:3). Mais cela veut-il dire qu’il examine constamment à la loupe nos faits et gestes ? Nous observe-t-il avec la seule intention de faire respecter ses lois et de nous punir ? (Jér. 16:17 ; Héb. 4:13). Pas du tout ! Il nous observe en premier lieu parce qu’il nous aime et se soucie de notre bonheur (1 Pierre 3:12).
      Jéhovah nous surveille par amour.

      Qu’est-ce qui nous aidera à comprendre que Jéhovah nous surveille parce qu’il nous aime ? Nous examinerons ensemble cinq façons dont cet intérêt se manifeste : 1) Il nous met en garde lorsque nous montrons de mauvaises inclinations, 2) il nous corrige lorsque nous faisons un faux pas, 3) il nous guide grâce aux principes que renferme sa Parole, 4) il nous soutient lorsque nous traversons diverses épreuves et 5) il nous récompense lorsqu’il remarque le bon qui est en nous.

      LE DIEU ATTENTIF NOUS MET EN GARDE

      Premièrement, examinons comment Dieu nous met en garde lorsque nous montrons de mauvaises inclinations (1 Chron. 28:9). Pour bien saisir cet aspect de son observation attentive, voyons comment il a traité Caïn, qui « s’enflamma d’une grande colère » parce qu’il n’avait pas obtenu l’approbation divine (lire Genèse 4:3-7). Nous voyons ici que Jéhovah lui a vivement conseillé de « [se mettre] à bien agir ». Il l’a prévenu que s'il ne changeait de comportement, le péché était « tapis à l’entrée ». Puis il lui a demandé : « Te rendras-tu maître de lui ? » Dieu voulait que Caïn tienne compte de l’avertissement et qu’« [il y ait] élévation », que Caïn retrouve sa faveur. Il conserverait alors une bonne relation avec Dieu.

      Les yeux de Jéhovah voient clair dans notre cœur ; nous ne pouvons pas lui cacher nos inclinations et nos motivations. Notre Père bienveillant veut que nous marchions dans les voies de la justice ; pourtant, il ne nous force pas à changer de route. Lorsque nous allons dans la mauvaise direction, il nous met en garde par sa Parole, la Bible. Comment ? Dans notre lecture biblique quotidienne, nous tombons souvent sur des passages qui nous aident à surmonter de mauvaises tendances ou des inclinations malsaines. De plus, nos publications chrétiennes traitent parfois d’une difficulté contre laquelle nous luttons et nous montrent comment la surmonter. Enfin, aux réunions de la congrégation, chacun de nous reçoit au bon moment les conseils dont nous avons besoin !

      Toutes ces mises en garde, écrite dans la parole, la bible, qu'elles sont vraiment la preuve que Jéhovah surveille chacun de nous individuellement et cela avec amour. Il est vrai que les paroles consignées dans la Bible existent depuis des siècles, que les publications préparées par l’organisation de Jéhovah sont écrites pour des millions de personnes et que les conseils donnés lors des réunions s’adressent à toute la congrégation. Mais dans tous ces cas, Jéhovah dirige l’attention de chacun, individuellement, vers sa Parole, afin que chacun puisse modifier ses inclinations. Ainsi, on peut dire que toutes ces dispositions sont la preuve que Jéhovah te surveille personnellement avec amour.

      Pour tirer profit des avertissements de Dieu, nous devons d’abord comprendre en profondeur sa parole? Quelle aide notre Père aimant nous fournit-il ?


      Lorsque que nous méditons sur la Parole et nous faisons des recherches profondes sur ces principes biblique, nous apprenons à nous corriger intérieurement et ainsi nous nous rendons particulièrement compte que Jéhovah veille sur nous.

      Bien sûr, il n’est pas spécialement agréable de se faire conseiller ou corriger, mais Jéhovah demande à chaque serviteur, de suivre la discipline enseigné dans sa paroles, de part nos yeux, par la méditation, la lecture attentive et en manifester les rappels constant (Héb. 12:11). Réfléchissons à ce que Jéhovah examine en nous. Nous devons être conscient que chaques actions de notre part pourraient nuire à notre relation avec Dieu. Nous devons se soucier de nos sentiments que nous véhiculons envers les autres. Enfin, nous devons être prêt à donner de son temps et de son énergie pour manifester les changements primordiales, à l’aide de la Bible, manifester les actions requises qui mène à plaire à Jéhovah .


      En psaumes 73:24 Le psalmiste a chanté à Jéhovah : « Par ton conseil tu me conduiras » (Ps. 73:24). Quand nous avons besoin d’une direction, nous pouvons « [tenir] compte de » Jéhovah en cherchant dans sa Parole la vrai direction de penser.

      Oui, par sa Parole, Jéhovah nous guide pour nous aider à surmonter les difficultés de la vie si nous demondons à Jehovah de nous guider personnellement.
      Psaume chapitre 37 à lire en entier.

      Pour quel genre de raisons Jéhovah n’intervient-il pas toujour dans nos difficultés personnelles ?

      Jéhovah a peut-être de bonnes raisons de ne pas intervenir dans certaines situations. Imaginons qu’à nos yeux, notre être intérieur fut blessé mais que Jéhovah ait un autre point de vue, que, selon lui, tu as plus de torts, que tu ne le penses. La remarque que tu as trouvée si vexante peut, en fait, être un conseil justifié, auquel tu ferais bien de réfléchir. Dans sa biographie, frère Karl Klein, qui a été membre du Collège central, a raconté qu’un jour, que frère Rutherford l’avait repris avec franchise. Par la suite, frère Rutherford lui a adressé un joyeux « Bonjour, Karl ! » Mais, vexé par la réprimande, frère Klein lui a répondu du bout des lèvres. Comprenant qu’il lui en voulait, frère Rutherford l’a prévenu qu’il risquait de devenir la proie du Diable. Frère Klein écrira : « Quand nous avons de la rancœur contre un de nos frères, surtout si c’est parce qu’il nous a dit quelque chose qu’il était en droit de nous dire dans l’exercice de ses fonctions, alors nous prêtons le flanc aux attaques du Diable. »

      Quand une épreuve semble s’éterniser, nous pourrions nous impatienter. Que faire alors ? Supposons, que nous roulons sur une autoroute et que nous nous trouvons pris dans un embouteillage. Nous ne savons pas combien de temps cette situation va durer. Si nous nous irritons et que nous essayons de prendre un autre chemin, nous risquons de se perdre et, au bout du compte, d’arriver à destination plus tard que si nous avions patiemment suivi le premier itinéraire. Pareillement, si nous restons sur les voies tracées par la Parole de Dieu, en temps voulu, nous arriverons, à la destination prévu.
      Il se peut également que, lorsque nous sommes éprouvés, Jéhovah n’intervienne pas tout de suite parce qu’il veut que nous recevions une précieuse formation (lire 1 Pierre 5:6-10). Dieu n’inflige aucune épreuve (Jacq. 1:13). La plupart des malheurs viennent de « [notre] adversaire, le Diable ». Par contre, Dieu peut se servir d’une situation éprouvante pour nous aider à croître spirituellement. Il voit notre souffrance et, « parce qu’il se soucie » de nous, il veillera à ce qu’elle ne dure qu’« un peu de temps ». Quand nous sommes
      éprouvé, sommes-nous heureux que Jéhovah nous surveille, convaincu qu’il nous ménagera une issue ? (2 Cor. 4:7-9).

      LA JOIE D’ÊTRE APPROUVÉ PAR DIEU

      En fait, Jéhovah examine notre vie pour une raison des plus rassurantes. Par l’intermédiaire de Hanani le voyant, il a dit au roi Asa : « Car, en ce qui concerne Jéhovah, ses yeux rôdent par toute la terre, afin de montrer sa force en faveur de ceux dont le cœur est complet à son égard » (2 Chron. 16:9). Chez Asa, Dieu n’a pas trouvé un cœur complet. Mais si nous, nous continuons à faire ce qui est droit, Jéhovah « montrer[a] sa force » en notre faveur.

      Dieu veut que nous « recherch[ions] ce qui est bon », que nous « aim[ions] ce qui est bon » et que nous « fass[ions] ce qui est bon » afin qu’il puisse nous « témoign[er] de la faveur » (Amos 5:14, 15 ; 1 Pierre 3:11, 12). Il remarque les justes et il les bénit (Ps. 34:15). Songeons, par exemple, aux accoucheuses hébreues, Shiphra et Poua. Alors qu’Israël était en esclavage en Égypte, ces femmes ont craint Dieu plus que Pharaon, qui leur avait ordonné de tuer à la naissance tous les garçons hébreux. Manifestement, leur conscience les a poussées à garder les bébés en vie. Par la suite, Jéhovah « leur fit don de familles » (Ex. 1:15-17, 20, 21). Leurs belles actions n’avaient pas échappé à Jéhovah, dont les yeux « rôdent». Parfois, nous avons peut-être l’impression que personne ne remarque nos belles actions. Mais notre Père céleste y est attentif. Il remarque toute bonne action et il nous récompensera en temps voulu(Mat. 6:4, 6 ; 1 Tim. 5:25 ; Héb 6:10.
      Jéhovah voit tout ce que nous faisons, tôt ou tard, il nous récompensera. En prenant conscience qu’il a l’œil sur nous alors n’ayons pas l’impression d’être sous le regard froid et scrutateur d’une caméra de surveillance. Au contraire, sentons-nous encore plus proche du Dieu bienveillant qui se soucie réellement de nous!


      Revenons à la petite histoire du personnage Amour.
      Avant de vous expliquer le rappels de cette histoire allons lire les paroles de notre Guide JÉSUS Christ.
      Allons en Mathieu 22 :37 à 39
      Alors Jesus lui dit : “ Tu dois aimer Jéhovah ton Dieu de tout ton cœur, et de toute ton âme, et de toute ta pensée. 38 C’est là le plus grand et le premier commandement. 39 Le deuxième, qui lui est semblable, est celui-ci : Tu dois aimer ton prochain comme toi-même
      Mathieu 5:44 à 45a
      Continuez d’aimer vos ennemis et de prier pour ceux qui vous persécutent ; 45 afin de vous montrer fils de votre Père qui est dans les cieux.
      Alors revenons à cet histoire que je transcript au début.
      Nous avions plusieurs personnages, il eut Amour , Richesse, l'orgueil, la tristesse, le bonheur, Le Temps et Le Savoir. Chacun étaient différents en manière de penser, en comportement, pourtant ils parraissent tous ensembles, qu'ils ont réussit leur monde, ils ont ammasé des richesses, leur valeurs en leurs coeur, certains étaient très heureux de leur réussites. Les personnages de cet histoire, aucun personnages ne se montrèrent d'aucune arrogance envers Amour. Richesse, orgueil, tristesse et bonheur ont tous ignoré Amour.
      Amour paraissait être le seul à n'avoir pris aucune précaution au chaos qui venait. Amour avait passé sa vie à comprendre l'Amour de cette vie.
      Il n'avait pas de bateau., il n'avait rien ammassé de cette vie.
      Amour se souvenait que Dieu viendrait le chercher par les nuages matérialisés pour rencontrer le Savoir dans un lieu unique où tout les juste vont.psaime 37'10,11

      Le temps dans cet histoire, qui est le vieillard, est Jésus, Jésus à attendu le signal du Savoir avant de sauver sa brebis, Amour.
      Amour avait transmit à chaque personnages son attention de l'amour, son amour pour son prochain était réel, tous le connaissaient par son Nom "Amour".
      Le temps qui est(Jésus, le viellard) même lui l'a appelé Amour par son Nom.
      Qu'à fait Amour pour rencontrer Le Savoir qui est Jéhovah, comme Jésus il a pardonné les actions de tout ses ennemis, incluant dans sa vie relaté en Galantes 5 :22, 23 par sa maîtrise de soi il a conservé ses 7 qualités, les plus importantes de sa vie et cela jusqu'à presque perde sa vie dans les eaux tumulteuses et il reçu du Savoir, le fruit de L'amour de Jéhovah le Dieu de toutes connaissances, de toutes sagesses et des bénédictions, Amour à reçu  la Récompense  de la promesse qu'il avait attendu toute sa vie.

      Pour finir ce petit discours je vous laisse sur une belle citation de Paul sur le thème de l'Amour.

      L’amour est patient et bon. L’amour n’est pas jaloux, il ne se vante pas, ne se gonfle pas [d’orgueil], 5 n’agit pas de façon inconvenante, ne cherche pas ses propres intérêts, ne s’irrite pas. Il ne tient pas compte du mal subi. 6 Il ne se réjouit pas de l’injustice, mais se réjouit avec la vérité. 7 Il supporte tout, croit tout, espère tout, endure tout. 8 L’amour ne disparaît Jamais, car c'est celui qui aura enduré jusqu'à la fin et les yeux sur fixer sur L'ESPÉRANCE DE LA PROMESSE DE JÉHOVAH LE DIEU DE TOUTES BÉNÉDICTIONS.
      Comme notre petit personnage Amour Notre persévérance nous donnera la chance de recevoir le Prix des juste et des humbles de la terre.
      Cher Serviteurs de Jehovah, annoncons La GLOIRE EN NOTRE DIEU Jéhovah le Dieu de L'Amour, de toutes connaissances et sagesses profondes.
      YHWH ELEON.

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      Reason to believe that our world will change for the better.—1 John 2:17.
       
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