Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?

[Space Merchant]

5 minutes ago, Dmitar said:

This didn't stop JWI from voicing the same false narrative. It doesn't matter how you wish to approach it, you are correct, that false narrative was debunked by the Watchtower itself.

He did mention also no publication states the latter also, so this is why whenever the year comes in the the discussion, it is clockwork for the former JWs to do the same thing over and over again; a crux to their insanity. As mention also, what is sad is the fact should any of them do the research to find out that the JWs never suggested the end of the world in 1975, they effectively get attacked and excommunicated from the community. The YouTuber in question suffered badly at the hands of the one known as John Cedars.

That being said, when people speculate on something without looking further into it, it results in problems like this. As for our Mainstream Counterparts, even the ones who come here, they figuratively like seeing the world and or communities burn with these narratives.

8 minutes ago, Dmitar said:

You can add several more names to that list, here as vocal present members. They know who they are. 

I think they are aware that no such thing was mentioned that day to suggest God's Day being of that year. There were also some mentioned of one of the pastors of the JW faith known as Fred Franz, in which some speak truth and some speak falsehood, and that battle was shown to be on this forum too.

But now that you mention it, many seem to not think about Matthew 24:14 (ref) and or any verse pertaining to preaching the gospel of the Bible. Preaching would have to end before such a day, yes? In the 70s prior and during and after 1975, they were still all over the place.

So that in of itself, is another point which is overlooked and or ignored. The Trinitarian of whom Srecko backed/supported suggested the JWs stopped preaching before 1975 to make it seem what the Scriptures say what followers of Christ were to end up doing. The person I speak of was around a lot even during your last tenure.

That being said, the only way this 1975 thing can be settled if the faith community did what that EXJW did, by putting forth all information for that day, consolidated so anyone can read.

 

[Space Merchant]

2 hours ago, Witness said:

Dear Dmitar, dear Allen, 

Unfortunately, @Dmitar is right, so was @JW Insider, as was the EJW that got terminated by your community, who probably went homeless afterwards, who knows.

2 hours ago, Witness said:

Who are you trying to protect?  What are you defending?

It is more so of a True Witness vs a False Witness.

The truth is that no one understood the end to be 1975 granted they took context, however, some speculated, and drew their own conclusion. Your former faith never stated anywhere of a world ending in any of their publications, which was already stated to you, not even in the archives it was suggested.

True Witness - Although they speak a lot of the End Times, as most Christians do, even our Mainstream adversaries, however, in regards to 1975, they never suggested what you claimed.

False Witness - Although the notion was directed towards @Srecko Sostar who brought it up, in the past, you made the claim that your former faith community DID say this one of several examples below:

On 11/8/2020 at 9:20 PM, Witness said:

JWs left in the dark, about the truth surrounding its announcement as the date for Armageddon. This includes those JWs who have conveniently forgotten what that time period of teaching involved. 

 

On 11/9/2020 at 6:46 AM, Witness said:

Wt leaders, including Fred Franz and his crafty speech about it, promoted 1975 as the coming year for Armageddon.  I wonder if these leaders were all purged from the organization.  Certainly Franz wasn’t.

 

These are 2 of many examples...

Your former faith group never suggested the end is 1975.

You said they said the end was 1975, yet when asked, you cannot produce.

 

Granted you lean towards a False Witness, may your own words be used against you here:

  

On 11/9/2020 at 5:18 PM, Witness said:

 An honest witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies. Prov 14:5

 

 

 

Indeed, perhaps apply it.

 

[Witness]

1 hour ago, Space Merchant said:

• Acknowledgement that, to your claim, they attested to God's Day being 1975.

Nor anything pertaining to the End of the World on that day or year in general.

This is what I suggest.  Buy yourself a 25 piece puzzle on Amazon, and practice putting it together until you see the entire picture on the box.   Then, revisit 1975, put the pieces - all of the Wt  articles pertaining to 1975, together, and you will see the entire picture.  (but you already know that)

Better yet, find a JW who sold his house around 1975, and forfeited his job to prepare for Armageddon.  Ask him, if he believed the organization's leaders told him that 1975 was the date for Armageddon.  (you already know his answer)

If you can't envision the "picture" puzzle, or you don't believe the JW, you are either blind, hard of hearing, a liar, or a manipulator -  for whatever reason, only you know.  

 

[Srecko Sostar]

7 hours ago, Arauna said:

Coming from Africa, I can attest to that.  We just arrived at a Safari camp when I forgot the kitchen window open.  In jumped a monkey and stole the sugar pot.  It lay broken outside the window but the two monkeys were sitting right in the sugar and eating it all up like a pair of toddlers.  Then they turned around and licked each others butts clean.  They sure gave us much to laugh at. Next day a warthog was walking around on his knees on our stoep (veranda) eating some carrots we gave him.  They do this in the wild as well !    I think we will have a ball with the animals in the paradise. Yes, Creation shows that god has a sense of humor. 

 

[Srecko Sostar]

7 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

You seem to be out of focus.

:))) 

7 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

Something was said,

A lot has been said, because a lot of it has been written about 1975 in WTJWorg publications.

7 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

9 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

How is this possible when JWs are the only people who are “spiritually awake” from long past,  while the whole world sleeps in “false dreams”?

Not sure what Spiritualistic rhetoric is that, but you'll have to elaborate what you are conveying.

There is no need to explain this from me, because it is the rhetoric that is widely used by GB and WTJWorg.

2 hours ago, Dmitar said:

I protect no one. However, I'm a defender of the truth.

But you haven't become a "Truther" yet, have you?  

2 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

in which followers that follow @Srecko Sostar's favorite willful adulterous, Ceadrs,

You have a lot of difficulty in various forms of perception, while you put other people in boxes that you shape yourself of your choice, don't you? Even Dmitar warned me about your modus operandi.  

2 hours ago, Dmitar said:

This didn't stop JWI from voicing the same false narrative. It doesn't matter how you wish to approach it, you are correct, that false narrative was debunked by the Watchtower itself.

WT exposes itself by exposing its past by blaming its own flock of sheep for alleged rumors that the flock began to spread on its own.

It is absurd to believe in GB claim that JW sheep started bleating about 1975 unprovoked. The then and present WTJWorg administration is a church hierarchy that does not allow anything to happen beyond their control.

And today you are trying to sell us the claim that these were some insignificant or semi-insignificant JW rank and file members who started mass hysteria (rumors) of such magnitude that even today WTJWorg publications have to write about it on the pages of WT magazine that is studied at JW meetings ? If 8 million JWs have to read and discuss this in meetings today because GB decided it was important for today's JWs to learn, then it's hard to accept your thesis that it was just rumors that were the product of the intellectual incompetence of a few JWs from period before 1975.

[Thinking]

12 hours ago, Pudgy said:

The point is this:

invisible things that supposedly happened in heaven in 1914, for which there is not a single shred of evidence their invisible kingdom with an invisible presence supported by invisible people, or angels as the case may be is completely indistinguishable …… Based on facts…… From a delusional fantasy.

The Bible said that nobody knows when Armageddon is going to take place and it would surprise everybody.

So far, every person, group, and organization that has claimed insight and ability to explain prophecy as always without exception been 100% WRONG.

That arrogance, fraud and just being flat wrong has been going on for at least 2000 years.

There have been no exceptions.

And I believe, that is the point.

Aaaaaah but you know she’s close to you before she’s seen by your eyes because you can catch the smell of her perfume…

[Thinking]

14 hours ago, Pudgy said:

The thing that often comes to my mind is the parable of the boy who continually cried “Wolf!!”, when there was no wolf.

somehow I find the same sort of thing acceptable with Air Raid drills.

 

Well it was true the third time around …

[Thinking]

13 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Point is, among others, GB changes doctrines periodically.

By changing the doctrine, "prophecy" also changes. For example, when Gog of Magog ceased to be Satan and became a "coalition of nations" attacking JW just before Armageddon, and then in another context, "rebellious perfect people" at the end of the 1000-year Kingdom of Jesus, then the "prophecy" that uttered the "GB fickle prophet", changed too.

Ultimately, all that GB performs has no real value or significance, because the Bible urges people not to fear such a prophet. That’s another point, don’t be afraid of GB because it utters nonsense.

Your a nut…you wouldn’t even know what you know about Jehovah without the GB…you follow unreasonableness and demon spirit inspired people who contribute absolutely nothing to anybody..and nobody knows  anything about them if they were never associated with witnesses…they contribute nothing to poor uneducated people who have no computers or who do not read…and nothing to society at all…just people massively engulfed and drowned by their own pride…they are the modern days Sauls even…

The GB have done such things…they have taught people to read…and see and study the scriptures for themselves….even if they didn’t go on to follow our beliefs….they have helped the deaf to hear the message of the Bible…..at no cost and even if they don’t follow our belief system…they have organized a world wide program to reach people…yes they have errors…and will continue to have them u til judgement day arrives….but the basic doctrines have always been solid…and you wouldn’t even have known them if it wasn’t for the GB down then the years.

Do I like everything or agree with the way they may handle everything….no…but nobody else knocked on my door and explained the basic truths as good as they did…

what have you and others like you done but sit at your computer and try to ruin others faith…do you do that to the Catholics or any other beleif system..

Satan has fueled you with a sense of pride that excels that of Sauls…your as crazy as they come.

Talking to you and your lot is like talking  to a stobie  pole..thick as a brick.

[Thinking]

4 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

He did mention also no publication states the latter also, so this is why whenever the year comes in the the discussion, it is clockwork for the former JWs to do the same thing over and over again; a crux to their insanity. As mention also, what is sad is the fact should any of them do the research to find out that the JWs never suggested the end of the world in 1975, they effectively get attacked and excommunicated from the community. The YouTuber in question suffered badly at the hands of the one known as John Cedars.

That being said, when people speculate on something without looking further into it, it results in problems like this. As for our Mainstream Counterparts, even the ones who come here, they figuratively like seeing the world and or communities burn with these narratives.

I think they are aware that no such thing was mentioned that day to suggest God's Day being of that year. There were also some mentioned of one of the pastors of the JW faith known as Fred Franz, in which some speak truth and some speak falsehood, and that battle was shown to be on this forum too.

But now that you mention it, many seem to not think about Matthew 24:14 (ref) and or any verse pertaining to preaching the gospel of the Bible. Preaching would have to end before such a day, yes? In the 70s prior and during and after 1975, they were still all over the place.

So that in of itself, is another point which is overlooked and or ignored. The Trinitarian of whom Srecko backed/supported suggested the JWs stopped preaching before 1975 to make it seem what the Scriptures say what followers of Christ were to end up doing. The person I speak of was around a lot even during your last tenure.

That being said, the only way this 1975 thing can be settled if the faith community did what that EXJW did, by putting forth all information for that day, consolidated so anyone can read.

 

Who is EJW and  where is he now…if I may ask 

[Pudgy]

2 hours ago, Thinking said:

Aaaaaah but you know she’s close to you before she’s seen by your eyes because you can catch the smell of her perfume…

Yeah, the wafting fragrance of Pyramid Petunia.

[Thinking]

9 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

Yeah, the wafting fragrance of Pyramid Petunia.

Or the succulent scent of Patience …

[Pudgy]

…… and for the woman who wants to drive her man craaaazy! ……