Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?

[Srecko Sostar]

1 hour ago, Space Merchant said:

to do the research

I get the impression that you have a list of two groups, on one are the media sources that always presents the truth, and on the other list are the media sources that always presents lie.

[Space Merchant]

1 minute ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Well it seems that SM knows for sure that no Prophet will ever be Inspired ever again. It's finished. 

I don't think so  

You clearly didn't read what I said.

Todays Christians are Prophets Not Inspired, spirit led to process the Great Commission of which the Christ commanded. They can't raise the dead, have visions or heal the sick, something of which a Prophet Inspired is capable of doing.

1 minute ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

We do not know 'exactly' where we are in the stream of time.  We do not know how many years are left. 

We don't. But we know when the Christian Church was changed that resulted in the situation we are in now.

3 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

SM is busy telling me that I don't use scripture to base my ideas on.

You said from your own understanding, you even said from your own personal thoughts, an understanding of your own, but not of Scripture.

As seen here:

22 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

my personal thoughts...

 

4 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

SM seems to know more about me than God or Yeshua know. 

I was technically birthed into Scriptures, so I know quite a lot about God and his Christ, so much so I don't allow myself to lean upon my own understanding to sacrifice legitimate teachings for a Mainstream one. Ironic coming from someone who didn't know Strong's for nakedness/gridled up.

6 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

So to SM and ALL others here. I believe that in the 'last days' Inspired Prophets or Inspired Anointed ones will guide true Christians to truth and give true direction and help. 

Only Christians and the remaining Chosen remain, both of whom in the spiritual house - none of them can raise those asleep in death, or heal the sick. Clearly none of us had such abilities and those who claim otherwise, Paul's words come to mind.

That being said, you have to be careful with those who claim to be an Inspired Prophet, for the majority already think they can have visions from God and witness Heaven and Hell. As @Equivocation thread alludes to.

 

[Space Merchant]

35 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

I get the impression that you have a list of two groups, on one are the media sources that always presents the truth, and on the other list are the media sources that always presents lie.

The Mainstream Media suppresses truth, and during war time, truth is often suppressed and or killed off. The MSM is a collective, grouped, and are often associated with things such as Big Pharma, as we know this due to the Opioid Crisis as is the COVID-19 Endemic, and Big Teach, mass censorship and suppression of information and truth.

As for the BBC article it was indeed misinformation. The claim is the Drone was from the Russians when in reality it is vastly different, leaning towards a False Flag to get the Croatia people involved, and even in their eyes, they see this too; granted NATO had quite the failure in that situation. The reason the BBC doesn't tell you this because they are among the many who are war mongers, and supporters of the military industrial complex. And this isn't one instance, it is several, in example, over the years, i.e. Syria Chemical situation.

 

They also censor people, myself included.

 

That being said it is understandable how your friend views truth vs the MSM, granted he himself was fooled by the New York Times and Newscorp, even one pertaining to CNN.

[Srecko Sostar]

2 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

Todays Christians are Prophets Not Inspired,

I didn't expect you to write this nonsense.

 

[Space Merchant]

4 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

I didn't expect you to write this nonsense.

It isn't nonsense. It was already explained as to why this is. Now and to you months ago.

[JW Insider]

12 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

As for those with military experience, they're not treated as well, and if anything, they are purposely sent to the frontlines, sometimes unarmed.

Sending them in to a frontline with little or no ammo for their weapons made no sense to me when I heard about that. Except that one idea might have been to make sure Americans die so that the US will step in and step up to fight Russia. This was Ukraine's goal all along, but it's becoming painfully obvious to Zalensky now that it was never the US goal. The US only needed to tease them into a war that would continue to weaken the country, and hopefully still keep them dependent on the purchase of more military weapons from the US. Previously, the US sold them billions in weapons so that they would keep killing fellow Ukrainians in Donbas, to the tune of about 14,000 dead. Whether they are bombing their own people, as they have been for more than 8 years, or bombing Russians, should make no difference to the US, as long as they still need US weapons to do it.

It is usually the goal of stupid people in the media and in the population who think that the US is all-powerful and can step into a war with Russia (or anyone else) to prove American dominance over everyone and everything. Biden, and at least half of Congress, might be dumb enough to be goaded into it, but the entire goal of US wars and invasions and occupations since 9/11 has never been to "win" anything, but mostly to create enough chaos to make American weapon-making oligarchs richer, while weakening the economies of countries the US chooses to interfere with.

The US occupation of Syria, of course, is to continue illegally occupying about a third of Syria to weaken the country with civil war, and mostly to control its oil which the US has been stealing now since their civil war began there. (And, of course, to bully and lie about Assad enough so that he knows he can't fight back.) The US support of the genocide in Yemen is, of course, only to please Saudi Arabia since the US has no conscience about where they purchase oil from (while making sure that Germany and other Europeans will not purchase gas from Russia).

Oh wait! Was this about Ukraine or door-to-door ministry?

[Space Merchant]

@JW Insider Agreed, also as for this

12 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

Oh wait! Was this about Ukraine or door-to-door ministry?

Ukraine only came up because of the BBC Article first brought forth by @Srecko Sostar.

So the discussion is mixed, and bounces back between subject matter from the looks of it.

Gospel preaching, Ukraine conflict, The Last Apostle/Inspired and not Inspired Prophets, John Butler's other account, and somehow John the Baptist got interjected because people are getting their Johns confused when it is clear of whom it being talked about.

 

Concerning your faith's gospel preaching, it won't be the same as it was before. People are more leaning towards to ill intent out of desperation. So you, as with most, need to be extremely vigilant and cautious.

 

Apparently, the common folks wants your faith community back:

 

[Srecko Sostar]

12 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

Oh wait! Was this about Ukraine or door-to-door ministry?

:)))

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

37 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

You said from your own understanding, you even said from your own personal thoughts, an understanding of your own, but not of Scripture.

Twist this if it makes you happy BUT you were not talking about Scripture at that time. you were talking about me getting my understanding of things from the main stream media. My reply was that my thought and understanding were my own.

41 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

Todays Christians are Prophets Not Inspired, spirit led to process the Great Commission of which the Christ commanded. They can't raise the dead, have visions or heal the sick, something of which a Prophet Inspired is capable of doing.

 I'm not suggesting that the True Anointed will 'raise the dead' or 'heal the sick'. BUT i am suggesting that the True Anointed will be inspired and will have visions and dream dreams, just as the scripture in Acts mentions. 

Berean Study Bible Acts 2 : 17 & 18 
‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. And even upon My servants, and upon My handmaidens, I will pour out of My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.

Oh You of little faith. how will you be saved. 

[Srecko Sostar]

Is the door-to-door work, run by JW members (Christians), a non-inspired prophecy work?

Analogously, are they, JWs, uninspired prophets?

51 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

Todays Christians are Prophets Not Inspired

 

[Space Merchant]

2 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Twist this if it makes you happy BUT you were not talking about Scripture at that time. you were talking about me getting my understanding of things from the main stream media. My reply was that my thought and understanding were my own.

I don't twist, you did lean towards your own personal thoughts when the Bible is clear on why we should not lean upon our own understanding. God's Word is clear on that, and this should be known to you.

3 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

I'm not suggesting that the True Anointed will 'raise the dead' or 'heal the sick'. BUT i am suggesting that the True Anointed will be inspired and will have visions and dream dreams, just as the scripture in Acts mentions. 

Of what you are attesting to is the events of Pentecost 33AD, around Apostle John was still alive and well, possibly in his late 20s, early 30s at the time, and even then he was proclaiming the message alongside the the Christians, as is the Chosen. For they themselves had such abilities to have visions, heal, etc, granted this is the events of the 1st century around the time the Christian Church and the faith began, for instance, concerning raising the dead as seen in Acts 9:40–41; 20:9–12. For the Christians of that time, as is among the Chosen, were indeed Prophets Inspired and continue to heed command of the Christ concerning the Commission, making disciples in the process.

But as pointed out, what is seen in Acts is the earliest of the Church's actions as is it's people, even the term Christian being noted.

24 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

 I'm not suggesting that the True Anointed will 'raise the dead' or 'heal the sick'. BUT i am suggesting that the True Anointed will be inspired and will have visions and dream dreams, just as the scripture in Acts mentions. 

The Chosen still walk among us, but concerning Acts this was during John's time, not afterwards. Polycarp was perhaps Chosen himself, but not having the inspiration of which his teacher, Apostle John, had.

But in Pentecost 33 AD, our early counterparts were capable of such things, as is Apostle John.

The ability to have visions, to be a Revelator, is equal to that of other abilities of which Prophets Inspired have.

25 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Berean Study Bible Acts 2 : 17 & 18 
‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. And even upon My servants, and upon My handmaidens, I will pour out of My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.

Of course, this is Pentecost 33 AD, not near the end of the 1st century (100-200 AD). But kills it even more for you is even the likes of the Didache and the Teaching of the 12 Apostles

26 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Oh You of little faith. how will you be saved. 

Faith begets insight and understanding. Therefore, my faith is as strong as titanium for I read truth, I do not idle by waiting for it, as you are doing.

It is unwise to assume, as you do, to attest otherwise. For it was very clear of what happened after John's death, such abilities ceased.

The only other person who attested to visions was the very man who caused quite the catalytic of Christianity itself.

That being said, I recommend you read up more on what happened along the years after Pentecost 33AD, there was a reason why people like Polycarp was fighting to maintain the truth of God's Word.

[Space Merchant]

34 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Is the door-to-door work, run by JW members (Christians), a non-inspired prophecy work?

Analogously, are they, JWs, uninspired prophets?

You were already told this in a quote, the fact you say this now shows you didn't read it.

A 4th time I quote this to you concerning a Prophet Not Inspired:

A normal, Spirit led Prophet who is clearly not inspired and not infallible have the gifts of the spirit regarding prophesying. It is regarded as dominant, the ability for one to profess in spreading the good news gospel of the Kingdom and the Messianic Age of the coming Christ, such of which gives evidence of the holy spirit's role as seen in Scripture, Matthew 24:14, Luke 4:18, Acts 2:18, 19 and Romans 12:6-8. Such ones with spiritual gifts have that is of what is cultivated, or cultivated gifts as some would say.

A prophet that isn't inspired and is not infallible in the message knows isn't the author of anything other than the Bible, they recognize that what they produce is of their own design but remain faithful to the Scriptures in of itself, this includes ALL Bible Translations because none of the translators or transliteratiors are not inspired, the very reason that most, if not all, tend to make revisions after revisions, example like you not knowing (but have used already) what the TR 1245 is and unaware that all translations, even that of JWs, have been revised, thus omitting anything related to the TR 1245, hence my clear view and adherence on Textual Criticism.

A not inspired prophet, or in this case, a normal prophet is encouraged by God's Word, if not, even moved by it. They show and express a genuine love for God and are moved to take action, just as those of old and our church fathers have. They are guided by God by means of influence and thinking, and our speech as with actions by means of the power of His Spirit and His Word, as can be evident by Matthew 13:11, 24:14.

The majority, even JWs are simply Normal Prophets/Prophets Not Inspired, as is out Chosen counterparts. The gifts Prophets of old had, we today do not have.

Speaking about Polycarp, he himself often spoke with Apostle John who had the opportunity to meet with the Christ. Another note about Apostle John's student is that he occupies an important place in the history of the early Christian Church, for he is among the earliest Christians whose writings survived. Granted of what was to come, although a student of an Apostle, he can't predict what was to come in 325 AD by means of a Vision, he is no  Revelator as John was.

Perhaps bother to read next time,

Also in regards to Revelations 12:7 is says the following

And there was a war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Like I said, the Bible is factual, concerning this.