1914

[Jesus.defender]

"In subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God has already begun...And that the "battle of the great day of God almighty [revelation 16:14], which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of the earth's present rulership, is already commenced. SOURCE: "The Time is at Hand; 1889. ( note: The 1915 edition of this book changed "A.D. 1914" to "A.D. 1915." )
 

"...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," SOURCE: The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101.
 

Here we see "proofs" not "maybe" or "perhaps" or "our opinion is", but "proofs" and "WILL end", not "maybe" or "possibly".

Even if the date was right but the prophecy wrong, it is still a failed prophecy.

 

Comments? Dialog?

[Melinda Mills]

(Matthew 24:36) “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father."

(Acts 3:22) 22 In fact, Moses said: ‘Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to whatever he tells you. 

(Mark 9:7) 7 And a cloud formed, overshadowing them, and a voice came out of the cloud: “This is my Son, the beloved. Listen to him.” 

Anyone who says anything that is not in the Bible will have to eat his words, sooner or later. God said to listen to Jesus, who said that even He did not know the timing of the end, only the Father.  (There also goes your Trinity.  The pot cannot call the kettle black.) All men are fallible.  The disciples thought that Jesus was restoring the heavenly kingdom at that time in the first century. They thought he would deliver them right away from Roman rule - a fallacy.  Jesus forgave them and taught them many other things.  After he went back to heaven the gospels were written to enlighten Christians who were not on earth at the time, and later he gave John the Revelation about the end times and a thousand years into the future. Christians are imperfect and sometimes over-zealous.  They can also be presumptuous. The only thing they will not be forgiven for is sin against the holy spirit.  So cool it.

 

 

 

 

[Shiwiii]

4 hours ago, Melinda Mills said:

Anyone who says anything that is not in the Bible will have to eat his words, sooner or later.

does this apply to an org that states, no beards, no blood, no birthday? 

does it apply to an org that says they are the only means/way for salvation?

[Matthew9969]

On 6/24/2019 at 8:02 AM, Melinda Mills said:

(Matthew 24:36) “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father."

(Acts 3:22) 22 In fact, Moses said: ‘Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to whatever he tells you. 

(Mark 9:7) 7 And a cloud formed, overshadowing them, and a voice came out of the cloud: “This is my Son, the beloved. Listen to him.” 

Anyone who says anything that is not in the Bible will have to eat his words, sooner or later. God said to listen to Jesus, who said that even He did not know the timing of the end, only the Father.  (There also goes your Trinity.  The pot cannot call the kettle black.) All men are fallible.  The disciples thought that Jesus was restoring the heavenly kingdom at that time in the first century. They thought he would deliver them right away from Roman rule - a fallacy.  Jesus forgave them and taught them many other things.  After he went back to heaven the gospels were written to enlighten Christians who were not on earth at the time, and later he gave John the Revelation about the end times and a thousand years into the future. Christians are imperfect and sometimes over-zealous.  They can also be presumptuous. The only thing they will not be forgiven for is sin against the holy spirit.  So cool it.

 

 

 

 

At this time, (and still), they called themselves the mouth piece of Jehovah and His only sole channel of communication to humanity. You are saying Jehovahs words are fallible and Jehovah is a false prophet.

[Jesus.defender]

On 6/25/2019 at 2:02 AM, Melinda Mills said:

(Matthew 24:36) “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father."

 

Really? You could not even address the quotes i gave?

This is your OWN material. it is NOT "apostate".

 

[Srecko Sostar]

Perhaps 1914 have same significance as 1975. According to calculations made by JW Scholars those two dates means something to them. Maybe to JW Scholars of past time those dates was very important to them and JW members of those period.

It would be interesting to know what JW Scholars of present time thinking about 1914 and 1975 dates? Are those dates have real value for events they represent - 1914 as  end of one period and beginning of another, Kingdom rules and similar. 1975 as 6000 years of humankind on Earth ??!!

Or JW Scholars "rowing" to some new unknown island, where they will find new dates and new meanings for old dates.