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12 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

Were the Bible Students racist in the early 1900s as the YouTuber attested to with his bias opinion in his first example - Yes or No.

 

Since all people are “imperfect,” then one could say that some BSs probably also had racist feelings thanks to their American culture, heritage, and social environment.

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1 minute ago, Srecko Sostar said:

SM has a special mill that requires water to go uphill so it can run.

Appeal to Motive, used by those defend anyone defending lies, as is disrespect/hypnotical use verses in to justify falsehood.

@Witness pulled a Glasglow, need I remind you of what you tried to do with a YouTube video? The difference is, you made it clear afterwards of your mistake, understood the falsehood, however, Witness continues to defend falsehood and falsehood. Both of you used alleged videos from former JWs and considered it a source. You went as far as to not only correct yourself, but remove the misleading thread/video from the forums.

That being said, for former Jehovah's Witnesses, to know Scripture seems to have went out the window.

The irony here is appeals to motives don't do anything because it also shows that just how problematic this is, mainly when claims were brought up.

9 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

No, i can't. On the other hand, I don’t even need to confirm things that belong to the behaviors of the human species. The behavior of the human species in general confirms that these and many other things burden human relationships.

Because it is unfounded, and what you stated is quite uncanny even, after all, you did say you knew about the Segregation Era, so why this type of response? You need to learn of the events of 1900s instead of adhering to opinions and assumptions. For these events did effect everyone, even the Bible Students, who later went on to become Jehovah's Witnesses.

It has nothing to do with human behavior/species, it is more in like with the mentality/influence of Jim Crow Laws and events of Slavery into Segregation, etc.

 

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10 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

You went as far as to not only correct yourself, but remove the misleading thread/video from the forums.

Because of those people who read your frequent comments on the "Glasgow" video. The video is not problematic and is not misleading. My interpretation of what the journalist said in that video was wrong. Let me understand for once SM :))) Do you want me to beg you every week on my knees for mercy :))))

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29 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Since all people are “imperfect,” then one could say that some BSs probably also had racist feelings thanks to their American culture, heritage, and social environment.

According to the facts - No.

This is why I mentioned The bloody summer of 1921, as is an example of 2 members of the Bible Students, one white, one black whereas the one who was white put himself at risk during the Segregation Era and the riots that were ongoing.

Also the latter remark, you are half correct [racist feelings thanks to their American culture]. Granted that the American culture, from the very beginning, developed around the ideas of race and racism, however, not everyone adheres to that notation in the culture, this is why, for example, interracial couples; in which violence towards them, as already mention in an example, can prove to be very dangerous although there is no issue, it is the fact a white/black person are together, which will spark outrage. This is likened to the Bloody Summer of 1921 where someone was accused of something he did not do, sexually assaulting a 17- year old white woman. Although he did not do it, it fuel those with so much hatred for black people that it warrant an extremely dangerous result of high violence and destruction for a few days. Around this time, it was Pastor Rutherford who lead the bible Students, which is evidence by images of Tulsa and the events around it.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

after all, you did say you knew about the Segregation Era, so why this type of response?

Apologize, You seem to hear and see poorly. Where did I write that I understand that part of American history? You really have serious problems attributing your ideas to other people.

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1 minute ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Because of those people who read your frequent comments on the "Glasgow" video. The video is not problematic and is not misleading.

The Glasgow comment were only directed to you, no one else, so your assumption, these people, is unwarranted.

That video, as with this one is misleading. Again you said you knew the events of the 1900s, so why is it you ignore the remark of Bible Students? There, Srecko, is a contradiction.

Likewise with the existence of Archives of which was sued casually by some here.

3 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

My interpretation of what the journalist said in that video was wrong.

It was not a Journalist, the video uploader was a Former JW, who has stated to be affiliated with a group who called themselves the Vast Apostate Army, the same group who is affiliated with a man who is not a fan of John Cedars, the one you follow. When I made the remark to you then, you attested to that fact that it was misleading, therefore, you took it down, as with the thread.

5 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Let me understand for once SM :))) Do you want me to beg you every week on my knees for mercy :))))

Be serious. When someone is attesting to lies, this isn't a joking matter.

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12 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

Rutherford not Russell.

Yes, typing way too fast to mix the two, but it was indeed his pictures around that time since CTR expired already. I did link the discussion on Tulsa that reflects the misleading example Wintess' video was trying to push.

14 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Apologize, You seem to hear and see poorly.

Another appeal to motive....

14 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Where did I write that I understand that part of American history?

When I spoke about the events of 1900s you stated the following

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If you knew, your responses would reflect that.

14 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

You really have serious problems attributing your ideas to other people.

I am using facts, not opinions and my own ideas. You and @Witness used this gimmick all the time because you know the claims of which you profess are indefensible.

 

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2 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Okay, dear man, so it's just me reading your comments and no one else?

In the forum search, all Glasgow comments were directed to you, about you, even in alluding - literally.

No one here made any mention of the Glasgow video besides both you and me.

5 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Please provide some fact and evidence that i am only one who read your comments.

In the majority of interactions I have with you.

That being said, using YouTube videos in this matter, likewise to Witness, is a bad move, and it only reaps refutation.

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12 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:
20 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Where did I write that I understand that part of American history?

When I spoke about the events of 1900s you stated the following

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If you knew, your responses would reflect that.

Reading your comment on the topic I realized what you are commenting on that topic. Your comment would be, it is what I understood, not the history of America. 

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