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When i strongly criticize WTJWorg + GB + Helpers, why is this same to you as criticizing God?

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2 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

like most JWs, is that you cannot understand that God is not your GB, and your GB are not God

Like most Judas-imitators you have a severe virus of hate- OCD and are so arrogant that you think all JWs worship people and cannot think for themselves. You cannot think for yourself that God may have a world-wide organization on earth.  Please tell me where there is another world-wide organization that teaches people about Jehovah.   If you cannot answer this question - do not bother to answer me.

 

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@César Chávez  @Srecko Sostar is right.  Criticizing the GB, Watchtower or CCJW  IS NOT criticizing Almighty God or Jesus Christ. 

If it was so, the when Jesus criticized the Pharisees he would have been criticizing his heavenly Father too.

CC do you know your problem ?  Well your problem is that you think your GB and their helpers are serving God. But in truth your GB and their helpers are not serving God at all. 

As for association with the CCJW, well the CCJW changes it's teachings and rules and lots of hidden information has become available over the past years. What I'm saying is that the CCJW / Watchtower is not the same as it once was. So when a person of good Christian conscience realises how bad and immoral the CCJW has become and how it's teachings no longer teach TRUTH but has gone after it's own ambitions, then a good honest Christian will separate them selves from that immoral and wicked Organisation. 

And when you, CC, say " Understand what Christian unity should mean, and the body of Christ is."  

Do you, or the GB, actually understand either ?  The GB tell the Body of Christ, the True Anointed, not to gather together for prayer or to discuss scriptures. The GB say it would be working against the Holy Spirit if the True Anointed gathered together. So where is the unity of your GB with their 'Fellow Slaves' ? 

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Sorry to say, the librarian has misunderstood the point I was attempting to make and took my words out of context. God won’t hold people accountable for not listening to the Watchtower. The post is a misrepresentation of that.

What is true is, God will hold those accountable for not listening to Christ as the Watchtower does. Witnesses around the world are not going to be saved by the watchtower but rather, they will save themselves by adjusting their Christian life as illustrated by the Watchtower through scripture by their actions and obedience to God and Christ. That’s the difference.

Since the Watchtower structures itself is through the inspired word of God, judging the discipleship of the Watchtower members by “judging” and “questioning” witness motives to obey, then you are in essence questioning and judging god’s inspired words simply because they do adhere to Bible principle. That difference should have been made clear by not changing the words of others. Romans 8:1

The same type of motives that outsiders used to condemn Christ and the Apostles.  Romans 2:1-29

Did God condemn and destroy those who actually killed his first creation (born)? John 3:17

It's up to the individual to obey Gods command. It’s a Christian obligation to keep the body of Christ clean. That is the church.

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Dear @The Librarian you make little confusion by removing some posts under new topic. :) Title: When i strongly criticize WTJWorg + GB + Helpers, why is this same to you as criticizing God? is part of my comment in responding to @César Chávez and it is not topic made by @Arauna

What do you suggest? Topic can be interesting for discussion and perhaps people would like to participate.

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6 hours ago, César Chávez said:

What is true is, God will hold those accountable for not listening to Christ as the Watchtower does.

And you are sure that WT with GB listens Christ in all things, little and big? 

6 hours ago, César Chávez said:

Since the Watchtower structures itself is through the inspired word of God,

Please, we need to separate "inspired Word of God" from "uninspired human organization structure". How you can came to idea that "perfect word" created "imperfect organization"?

Bible is "relatively" "perfect", because it is given to "imperfect human". What imperfect human can do with perfect words? They would not be able to understand "perfect language". In that respect Bible is something "perfect" to people, humankind in particular periods of time. But many things in Bible are not "perfect" any more. For example does it "Perfect Law" in time of Moses given to old Israel, is "perfect" for people today, for JW members today??!! No, it is not. And JW's proves that every single day, because they not living by "perfect Words" written in The Law. Even God himself "destroyed" His own "perfect words" and replaced it with Jesus's Teachings.

And you are ready to believe, with millions of JW's, how WTJWorg is divine structure similar to Old Israel? If you want to be Jesus's follower, disciple you will recognize how Jesus did not support nothing similar to Old Jew "Theocracy".

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49 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

And you are sure that WT with GB listens Christ in all things, little and big? 

The Watchtower does with its illustration of fine works as described and instructed by Christ himself. Do I suggest all members within the organization hold true to that Christian value, no! I do however see my brothers with responsibility such as the GB actions do conform to Gods commands and Christ instructions.

54 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Please, we need to separate "inspired Word of God" from "uninspired human organization structure". How you can came to idea that "perfect word" created "imperfect organization"?

You should understand me by now, I always separate church from state. It would be equally advantageous if you had the same process.

57 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

And you are ready to believe, with millions of JW's, how WTJWorg is divine structure similar to Old Israel? If you want to be Jesus's follower, disciple you will recognize how Jesus did not support nothing similar to Old Jew "Theocracy".

Once again, the understanding of scripture with issues driven by outside influences become questionable when the ideology is taken out of context. Jesus was well versed in the ancient scrolls as well as the misapplication of Jewish laws. Therefore, to understand the difference, the right context of Matthew 5:17 needs to be applied.

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