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September 6th, 2017: A just released research survey shows once again that Jehovah's Witnesses are among the least educated people in the United States: 

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It is also interesting to note how JWs rank in the categories of: Income, Insurance Coverage and Homeownership. They are among the lowest in every one of these categories.

  • 45% of JWs report household earnings of less than $30,000 per year
  • Fewer than half of JehovahÂ’s Witnesses (48%) are homeowners
  • Only 31% report having health insurance through their employer

 

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September 6th, 2017: A just released research survey shows once again that Jehovah's Witnesses are among the least educated people in the United States:  AmericaÂ’s Changing Religious Identity

Wow! There are a lot of educated people today. How's that world going that they have collectively built?

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I would add to the list of how things are improving.

We have iPads. I use mine a lot.

People have to clean up after their dogs. There is no experience quite like sliding through a pile of you-know-what trying to stretch to catch a fly ball in the outfield. Thanks to modern advances, that doesn't happen anymore.

People are less inhibited speaking of dark things like suicide. Counterbalancing that somewhat is that there are many more suicides to talk about, as it becomes all the rage among the young who sense that the older ones they trusted have sold them down the river with their 'fake news' world.

Teen births, as you pointed out, are at an all-time low! A price has been paid, however, for this 'advance,' by some very tiny individuals who probably feel pain.

@James Thomas Rook Jr.would disagree that it is 'Crisis News Network" His heart seems planted on one side of the national squabble over which some have said another civil war might break out.

It's all in what you value. I am reminded of the quote from the old blue Truth book: 'True, there has been progress in a material way. But is it really progress when humans can send men to the moon, but cannot live in peace on earth with one another?'

Some people think it is.

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4 hours ago, Ann O'Maly said:

Just a cursory reading of this:

"Absolute poverty is defined as living on less than $1.25/day." : Pathetic benchmark!

"Over the next 20 years, we have the ability to extinguish absolute poverty on Earth." ???Excuse me! We have been able to do this for years!

 "the basic rationale for child labor will completely disappear" And what are those poor, redundant, robot replaced, child laborers doing? Starving to death? Trafficked?...

"We’re demonetizing food rapidly." What does this even mean? Less people malnourished?? Wakey Wakey!!

"In the last 25 years, under-five mortality rates have dropped by 50%" Glad to hear it...I think.... er, What is the life prospect for these folk and any assessment of the quality of that life?

"we will rapidly begin to eliminate dozens or hundreds of similar plagues." In the context of the elimination of guinea worm infestation glad to hear but.... Hmm... sounds highly speculative at best. "we will rapidly begin"???

"the dramatic decline in the number of teen (15 to 19 years old) birth rates in the United States since 1950" Is this due to abortion availability? birth control? Social media preference to live contact? or better moral standards? Or something else?

"the number of homicides per 100,000 people has decreased to almost zero." over the last 700 years??? how on earth is this measured especially prior at least 19th Century and what is included? probably doesn't include war deaths or political genocide.

I can't look at any more of these stats, but I wholeheartedly agree with the final statement of this report:

We live in the most exciting time to be alive! Enjoy it.

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6 hours ago, Gone Fishing said:

We live in the most exciting time to be alive! Enjoy it.

I agree 100% ... I would rather live in this time than in any other time in the history of human experience.

I have been at death's door with my hand on the knob more than several  dozen times ... yet, somehow .....  I still live.

I thank Jehovah EVERY DAY for the circumstances of this time, and this place. 

 I am a HAPPY MAN since I stopped letting delusional pessimists, and people pushing their agendas tell me it's all going to hell in a hand basket.

IT'S NOT!

(Circumstances may vary ... do not try this at home.)

 

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On 9/10/2017 at 0:33 PM, TrueTomHarley said:

People are less inhibited speaking of dark things like suicide. Counterbalancing that somewhat is that there are many more suicides to talk about, as it becomes all the rage among the young who sense that the older ones they trusted have sold them down the river with their 'fake news' world.

"Class, I know you are sad that Ashley hung herself yesterday. And last week little Jimmy in the 4th grade did the same. He was sad because Travis's older brother blew his brains out a month ago. You probably saw that on Facebook. Wasn't that terrible?

"Your school loves you are wants to help, so we have asked @Ann O'Malyto address the class. Ms. O'Maly, you have our attention."

Thank you, teacher. Good morning, class ....(Good morning, Missus O'Maly) 

I have ten charts with me today that shows the world is wonderful.

On 9/10/2017 at 11:52 AM, Ann O'Maly said:

Look at them closely. If you do that you will see that most of the bad things are almost gone. Scientists and educated people did this - not stupid Jehovah's Witnesses. @Jay Witness, who spoke to the class yesterday, showed how they drag up the bottom of the Pew List. What good are they? Look to science and education to solve our problems, not God. My charts show the problems are almost gone.

Whatever is wrong with you - killing yourselves the way you do? Stop it right now! Can't you see? The end of problems is just around the corner. We are so very close. Don't Give Up. We even have suicide hotlines because we love you. We're pumping some of you full of antidepressants till it comes out of your ears. What more could you ask for?

I know that you are sad because Taylor was molested by her uncle not long ago. And Amber and Nancy and Logan and Mason and Dixon and Prancer and Janie. These things happen. They are very bad and we are working hard to stop them. We have sex offender registry lists and half the planet is on them so we are almost there, The thing that I want you to focus on is that some Jehovah's Witness elders punished Prancer's uncle but they didn't do it the right way. It's not their job to punish him - it's our job.

Ann should not have brought her charts to the WorldNewsForum. Not everything is on them. And too many there are cynical  because they know that 'facts' are elusive building blocks that can be shaped into anything you want them shaped into. She should have gone into the schools. Among young people she will find alarmingly increasing numbers who do not believe them, and they are manifesting their disbelief by means of a noose. 

 

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Jehovah's Witnesses do not ignore education but they do redefine it. 

Theirs is primarily moral training and the Bible is the textbook. Secular skills they pick those up a la carte as necessary. They look bad on the Pew chart that way and @Jay Witnesscan gloat. But that does not mean it doesn't work.

Is it a good idea to focus primarily on moral training? if people are unloving, selfish and greedy, you are better off not educating them. They can do less damage that way. If plumbers and janitors had run the worldwide financial system in 2007 they might have found a way to beat the taxpayers out of a day's wage. Instead, it was MBA's who ran it, and they found a way to put us all in hoc forever.

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On 9/10/2017 at 01:56, Gone Fishing said:

brothers, that there are not many wise in a fleshly way

The problem arises when people who choose  themselves to be "the foolish things of the world" became really foolish in generating doctrines and instructions that have no connection to god. But they convinced themselves how they are wise in the presence of, before God.

So, who can help them? Man? God? No one.  Because why would they listen to "wise man in a flesh"? An with god, god decide to live them in their security of false wisdom to show to others how look the end of human wisdom, again. With or without prefix - "wise" or "foolish" :) 

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