Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?

[Witness]

16 hours ago, Arauna said:

Lying is the same as reviling and adultery the same as child abuse.....  To Jehovah they are all worthy of death. 

Can you see it yet?  Do you realize how responsible the leadership of your organization is, for placing stumbling blocks before God's holy people - Jesus Christ's "kings of the earth"?  Mal 2:8; Rev 1:5; 5:9,10

Prophets who lie are spiritual harlots, because they have broken their covenant with God.  Ps 78:10;  Rev 13:11,12; 17:1-5

 

[Pudgy]

1 hour ago, Witness said:

Can you see it yet?  Do you realize how responsible the leadership of your organization is, for placing stumbling blocks before God's holy people - Jesus Christ's "kings of the earth"?  Mal 2:8; Rev 1:5; 5:9,10

Prophets who lie are spiritual harlots, because they have broken their covenant with God.  Ps 78:10;  Rev 13:11,12; 17:1-5

 

At one time in history most of the people on Earth thought that the Earth was flat.

And they thought that if you went out into the Atlantic Ocean far enough, “there be dragons”.

Where did they learn this from?

They learned It from people who sincerely believed it, and told them. Were the generation of teachers liars, each and everyone, to the up-and-coming generation?

No, they were wrong based on sincere belief, regardless of the fact that it was not based on anything rational except their observations and conclusions, AND UNSOPHISTICATED THINKING ABILITY.

In order to be a liar, you have to know that what you are telling is not true.

…… like when one child who firmly believes in Santa Claus tells another child the whole complicated story of the North Pole, Santa‘s elves, etc. he is not lying, BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IT HIMSELF ….. he’s just perpetuating a fantasy.

Such is the nature of delusions.

Most peoples’ lives are so hard and miserable and lonely, that their delusions are the only comfort they have.

Jury trials by “12 men good and true”, are based on the falsehood that you can vote on Truth, and many totally innocent men have died in prison, or been executed.

”STUFF HAPPENS”

If you can do better, do so.

The sad truth is most of what EVERYBODY BELIEVES …….

……. Is WRONG.

 

[Witness]

54 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

was not based on anything rational except their observations and conclusions, AND UNSOPHISTICATED THINKING ABILITY.

Do you think God wants people to be comforted by delusions?  These men propose to be God's spokespeople and guided by His Spirit.  

This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord."  Jer 23:16

The picture I attached is just one of many acts of vision from the minds of Wt's leaders.  Those people on the cover and many more with them, were filled with false hopes.  Did they draw comfort from the false hope when on their death bed? 

Usually repetitive liars know that they are not telling the truth. 

"But which of them has stood in the council of the Lord
    to see or to hear his word?
    Who has listened and heard his word?"

I did not send these prophets,
    yet they have run with their message;
I did not speak to them,
    yet they have prophesied.
22 But if they had stood in my council,
    they would have proclaimed my words to my people
and would have turned them from their evil ways
    and from their evil deeds."  Jer 23:18,21,22

 

[Srecko Sostar]

2 hours ago, Pudgy said:

In order to be a liar, you have to know that what you are telling is not true.

This conclusion seems fine to me.

But as often happens, that word appears - but.
At the time of the doctrine popularly called "the 1914 generation", we do not know today which people took part in it and how they led the debates, which of them were for, which were against, and which abstained. We today do not know what motivated these people and whether they were simply mistaken in believing in the wrong idea.
Or were they actually right so that the second / third coming of the Kingdom actually took place within the "generation of 1914", but in a different way than expected and which remained invisible to WTJWorg and JW members?

But let’s get back to a simpler reality. When WTJWorg concluded that “Jesus thought differently” and that "he actually meant" the “overlapping generation,” then it could be said and written in official documents (WT literature):

That the former WTJWorg leadership taught the wrong doctrine because they believed in delusion and misconception. Why they believed in delusion and thought wrongly? Because they didn't know the real truth. We believe in another idea today. If this idea turns out to be wrong in the future, you need to know that we didn’t want to lie to you but that we just sincerely believed we were right this time.

 

[Srecko Sostar]

"We have to be absolutely sure that everything fits."

 

 

 

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

8 hours ago, Pudgy said:

In order to be a liar, you have to know that what you are telling is not true.

Um, BUT the GB say that YHWH and Yeshua trust the GB. 

The GB state that they ARE the Faithful and Discreet Slave distributing properfood at the right time. EVEN THOUGH THE ONE SCRIPTURE ACTUALLY USED, IS A QUESTION, NOT A DIRECT STATEMENT OF WHOM.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20130715/who-is-faithful-discreet-slave/

⁹ Do all anointed ones on earth make up the faithful slave? No. The reality is  that not all anointed ones have a role in dispensing spiritual food to fellow believers worldwide. Among the wheat are anointed brothers who may serve as ministerial servants or elders in their local congregation. They teach from house to house and in their congregation, and they loyally support the direction from headquarters. But they do not have a part in dispensing spiritual food to the worldwide brotherhood. Also among the anointed are humble sisters, who would never try to assume the role of teachers in the congregation.—1 Cor. 11:3; 14:34.

¹⁰ Who, then, is the faithful and discreet slave? In keeping with Jesus’ pattern of feeding many through the hands of a few, that slave is made up of a small group of anointed brothers who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food during Christ’s presence. Throughout the last days, the anointed brothers who make up the faithful slave have served together at headquarters. In recent decades, that slave has been closely identified with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Note, however, that the word “slave” in Jesus’ illustration is singular, indicating that this is a composite slave. The decisions of the Governing Body are thus made collectively.

ALL OF THAT WATCHTOWER ARTICLE IS PURE LIES. WHY ? BECAUSE IT HAS NO TURE FOUNDATION. 

You cannot say that you will only speak truth from YHWH, and then speak deception.

[JW Insider]

4 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

"We have to be absolutely sure that everything fits."

I watched the whole video (and I had seen it before) but I saw nothing really wrong in what Brother Splane was saying. Can you clarify what is so wrong about making sure that everything fits?

[Arauna]

10 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

QUESTION, NOT A DIRECT STATEMENT OF WHOM.

That us brilliant that you brought it up!  The question is directed at those living in the last days and asks each individual if they  recognize the  slave.  It is a question directed at me and you. I recognize them to give me food at the proper time and I am happy in doing so! . 

If you do not understand - read it again. 

“Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?  46 Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so!  47 T

[Srecko Sostar]

2 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

The GB state that they ARE the Faithful and Discreet Slave distributing properfood at the right time.

You just reminded me to wonder; What is the difference between “perfect spiritual food” that does not exist in WTJWorg, because GB themselves say that food is not perfect, compared to “spiritual food at the proper time”?

If something important to us came at the best moment, then it is great or "perfect".
But now we need to ask ourselves what is it that needs to be “perfect”? The moment when something comes or the thing / phenomenon that comes?

Both, if we seek and expect the best.

This opens up a new dimension of thinking. The "best spiritual food in proper time" is adapted to the time/moment and generation of the recipient. Every new best spiritual food at proper time needs to be adapted to new circumstances and new people. That is why WTJWorg is changing doctrines.

[Arauna]

18 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

ALL OF THAT WATCHTOWER ARTICLE IS PURE LIES.

You have not said what is the lie..... to make wild accusations is not "logical reasonings". If they are not the slave, then please identify who is providing spiritual food world wide about the "kingdom" as verse 14 of the same chapter says. ..... then please also provide information which "slave is providing food world-wide to keep all Jehovahs people abreast with information on how to preach and teach (our main commission" ) and arrange meetings to build us up.  

They are not "perfect" but they are doing the job jehovah gave them. ....

So once again please identify the "slave" that is doing all these tasks on a world-wide basis. 

[Thinking]

6 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

"We have to be absolutely sure that everything fits."

 

 

 

Cannot see anything wrong with this…????…the sleaze ball who introduced it was rather sickening..he was hard to take..some of your lot left the org because of its faults….but when they try to fix things or adjust things you all complain it’s not the org you remember …so why did you leave in the first place….???

all this post does is to reaffirm why the brothers warn us of such drivel..

[Srecko Sostar]

23 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

Can you clarify what is so wrong about making sure that everything fits?

What is the problem with fitting something new into an existing entirety / complex that has worked almost "smoothly" until then? 

Instead of analyzing through my own "intellectual exertion" (perhaps on another occasion) I used a biblical quote from the Gospel of Mark.

21 No one sews a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment. If he does, the patch  tears away  from  it, the new from the old, and a worse tear is made. 22 And no one puts new wine into old qwineskins. If he does, the wine will burst the skins—and the  wine is destroyed, and so are the skins.  But  new wine  is  for fresh wineskins.”