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7 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Clearly, Jehovah did not approve of ‘man dominating man’ through abusive slavery. But did not God later allow slavery among his people? Yes, he did. However, the slavery that existed in Israel was vastly different from the tyrannical forms of slavery that have existed throughout history............Slavery was part of the economic system of the Roman Empire, under which first-century Christians lived. Hence, some Christians were slaves, and others had slaves.

This would depend on how you apply God's words. I'm sure there was nothing sinister behind God's plan. You just want to accept it that way. That's your prerogative. 

 

9 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

To summarize this part. Imitating the early Christians today, would mean that JW's would have permission from God to have "slaves" if some of JW decide to have human force to labor for him. Controversial, isn't it? 

Once again, if that's your take, then you have learned nothing from either the past or the present. 

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On 2/19/2022 at 11:26 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

But did not God later allow slavery among his people? Yes, he did. However, the slavery that existed in Israel was vastly different from the tyrannical forms of slavery that have existed throughout history

Additional thought, recap!

Did he really? Or can it be humans are dominating themselves out of imperfection. You are painting God as an imperfect being. That's your choice. However, I would never blaspheme against God.

On 2/19/2022 at 11:26 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

o summarize this part. Imitating the early Christians today, would mean that JW's would have permission from God to have "slaves" if some of JW decide to have human force to labor for him. Controversial, isn't it? 

As in, being slaves to God's truth? Why change the literal definition so as not to reflect the spiritual aspect of it? This hypothesis of yours is far more controversial.

On 2/19/2022 at 11:26 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

Can we have it both ways? ...... it seems we can.

For those that interpret scripture the right way, then, no! You either serve God, or you are a slave to your own desires. In this case, those that knew scripture and now oppose those that are still loyal to God, are being enslaved by an evil spirit.

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I think I remember about 20 years ago the Watchtower had an article on “maturity”, how a mature Elder could love God, and be loyal, but make a serious really stupid mistake … which would not make him any less loyal, dedicated, or mature …. Just plain stupid.

Much like King David’s example.

954F08AB-5CCD-4C5A-8635-92B68C68E092.jpegOf course, they phrased it a bit less directly, in the Watchtower.

 

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1 hour ago, Pudgy said:

I think I remember about 20 years ago the Watchtower had an article on “maturity”, how a mature Elder could love God, and be loyal, but make a serious really stupid mistake … which would not make him any less loyal, dedicated, or mature …. Just plain stupid.

Could it be said; If someone is just plain stupid JW, then he/she will do the most harm to self and family? If someone is just plain stupid Elder, then such will harm 100-200 others around him? If someone is just plain stupid King, then he can ruin thousands and millions of subjects?

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51 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Could it be said; If someone is just plain stupid JW, then he/she will do the most harm to self and family? If someone is just plain stupid Elder, then such will harm 100-200 others around him? If someone is just plain stupid King, then he can ruin thousands and millions of subjects?

Now look in the mirror and @Pudgy then, think how much more "obtuse" former Jehovah's Witnesses are with their woeful and foolish debates. Can that theory not be expanded within the millions of former witnesses?

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16 hours ago, Pudgy said:

think I remember about 20 years ago the Watchtower had an article on “maturity”, how a mature Elder could love God, and be loyal, but make a serious really stupid mistake … which would not make him any less loyal, dedicated, or mature …. Just plain stupid.

It that the excuse they make on behalf of Elders ????? All the CSA is just because Elders are stupid.

 

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1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Sad or not, it is so in our reality. This reality we have spares no one, whether former or current JW.

Have I ever implied Jehovah's Witnesses are perfect? That fiction comes from former Jehovah's Witnesses. That, somehow, becoming a witness is supposed to wash imperfection away. Therefore, not realistic. 

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