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This is exactly the point. Thanks. The Watchtower has ALWAYS turned the generation into a zone of dates. When the Watchtower's previous zone of dates was no longer tenable, there was an excellent oppo

Yes. If you don’t forgive and put it behind you, you never heal. You are forever rehashing your injury. In close to 50 years with Jehovah’s earthly organization, the supportive benefits have far excee

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When I studied Islam to the extent that I could distinguish a Shia from a Sunni when talking to them, I was astounded to see the U-turn most governments took on the violence inherent in the religion - especially after the term "islamaphobia" was coined. 

It fitted in so well with the extreme far-left agenda of being totally inclusive..... that jihadis are seen as good citizens and religious crimes are covered up -  because the press was no longer allowed to mention their names (UK), race or motivations in press releases. 

I was shocked in 2018 when UN signed agreements with their member countries that press must be "re-trained" if they show any form of islamaphobia. It fits with the new philosophy that only whites can be slave owners and be racistic.

A few years back I watched EU members in their meetings. I was also shocked when I discovered that they openly praised China and spoke of the "Chinese model" for the entire world. .... while fully aware of what China was doing to muslims and Falun gong. 

I warned friends where we were heading and I could see why satan would choose a central, financial government for the final beast ruling over humans because he wants totalitarian control. It will be a federation of digital currencies....  like old USSR under central banks... no other currencies allowed and no independent currencies allowed by law.. 

We are now experiencing a kind of cultural revolution the same as under Mao.... so everything is moving in one direction....... central emergency rule by UN under 10 kings. (Just as prophecied jn Revelation 17. ) all will be obligated to worship the beast and image of the beast or face the retaliation. 

 

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1 hour ago, Pudgy said:

people just refer to them as “the 13%”

the world has become wicked and the problem is that most are moving away from god and also from his principles of good and bad.  So it is just going to go into anarchy or persecution. Persecution because you are not falling in line with the new morality of the UN.  They are the ones promoting all the child "porneia" in schools.

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3 hours ago, Arauna said:

the world has become wicked and the problem is that most are moving away from god and also from his principles of good and bad.  So it is just going to go into anarchy or persecution. Persecution because you are not falling in line with the new morality of the UN.  They are the ones promoting all the child "porneia" in schools.

I had a short conversation with my GP today..he showed me something on his computer…and said…the government Have Total control ( over all of us ) he is not Australian and his home country is in civil war…yet he is noticing these things…and seemed quietly astounded at their iron clad grip…..it’s not like his country…because the grip is silent…and he could see that..( and no the time wasn’t right to do our thing ) ….I see Pakistan has fallen…I remember a article written about the country and it’s role seemed to be crucial in all of this??…Blowed if I can remember  any of it now?…

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On 4/12/2022 at 3:39 PM, Pudgy said:

AND SPEAKING OF CURRENCY BY THE POUND….. NEWS FROM BELGIUM (. … who are famous for their breakfast Waffles!)

 

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I also seen a short article sometime this week where Witnesses were compensated for a unfair ruling or judgement previously given out by a court….so it goes both ways..depending on the day of the week .

But I bet you meant to send that to old Dmitar and not me hey ….😜

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1 hour ago, Thinking said:

I see Pakistan has fallen…I remember a article written about the country and it’s role seemed to be crucial in all of this??

America tries to surround its enemies with buffer states where they have control of the puppet leaders.  They have done this with color revolutions in south America and eastern Europe. Ukraine is one of them.  They are now working towards the same goal in Asia....  China is heavily invested in Pakistan .... so I do not know their MO but I am sure the leaders will try to leach as much cash out of this country as possible.   When Biden allocated funds for the pandemic - billions were allocated to Pakistan ..... so I am not surprised that the elected officials are out when opposers receive the money.

They allocated funds to their friends and then get some back via other methods.  This is what happened in Ukraine.

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1 hour ago, Thinking said:

showed me something on his computer…and said…the government Have Total control ( over all of us )

Unfortunately that is correct.   All hospitals are only allowed to use ......Rem,di,si,vir........ for babies 7 lbs and more , children and adolescents upto 18 years.....as well..... but they know it causes kidney failure but they do not care!   Only Jehovah can bring judgment on them in his due time!

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On 4/12/2022 at 7:09 AM, Pudgy said:

AND SPEAKING OF CURRENCY BY THE POUND….. NEWS FROM BELGIUM (. … who are famous for their breakfast Waffles!)

 

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AND I NOTICED AS SOON AS YOU MENTIONED THIS, THE WHOLE TOPIC WENT POLITICAL, JUST TO DISTRACT FROM THIS IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION YOU UPLOADED. 

Shunning is of couse discrimination, and also misuse of scripture which was instruction given to the Anointed not to the earthly class. 

But if you need to use scripture in order to show love to people, try this. 

Matthew 5 : 43 - 45. Yeshua said 

"You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor’ and ‘Hate your enemy.’  (This is the JW way) 

But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous" 

But the GB / Leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org, want you to hate everyone outside of THEIR Org. 

JWs are told not to have friends outside of the Org, not to trust anyone outside of the Org, and not to even look at or speak to Ex JWs. And many many JWs are too frightened to disobey.

 

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There is a clear emphasis on avoiding the apostate translation and its meaning, yet many seem to overlook the biblical foundation for the reasons NOT to follow the path of the fallen brethren or those with an apostate mentality. Those individuals have embraced the path of darkness, where the illuminating power of light cannot penetrate, to avoid receiving the righteous discipline based on God's Bible teachings. They are undoubtedly aware that this undeniable truth of life must be disregarded in order to uphold their baseless justifications for the unjust act of shunning. Can anyone truly "force" someone or stop them from rejecting a friend or family member? Such a notion would be absurd, considering the fact that we all have the power of free will. If a Witness decides to distance themselves from a family member or friend simply because they have come out as gay, who is anyone within the organization to question or challenge that personal sentiment? 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