Some say one thing, and some say something completely different

[Srecko Sostar]

In WTJorg, some say one thing, and some say something completely different. So who should be trusted? "Food at the proper time" that confuses, if you can see the difference. But GJ testimony is not on the "spiritual table", because there are reasons for it.

GB in 2015:

 

GB in 2023:

 

9. What quality is needed to understand Bible prophecy? Explain.

⁹ Be humble. Jehovah promises to help the humble. (Jas. 4:6) So we need to pray for His help to understand Bible prophecy. We must also acknowledge that we need the help of the channel he is using to give us our spiritual food at the proper time. (Luke 12:42) Jehovah is a God of order, so it makes sense that he would use just one channel to help us understand the truths contained in his Word.—1 Cor. 14:33; Eph. 4:4-6.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-august-2023/Learn-From-Bible-Prophecy/

[Pudgy]

…. one day my wife asked me “How come men get a lot more money for the same work than women do?”.

I looked at her as if she were Lassie, not knowing the difference between a ladder and a rope, ‘cause once again Timmy had fallen into a well, and replied…

”I think you are just not quite clear on the concept of the double standard! ….”.

[Pudgy]

P. T. Barnum was an entrepreneur who for many years owned and managed the world famous “Barnum an Bailey Circus”.

At some of the exhibits and sideshows of exotic animals and human freaks, people were loitering and clogging up the tents, and new paying customers couldn’t get in.

So he put up tent tunnels to the Circus grounds and connected it to the back of the exhibit tents with a sign “ THIS WAY TO THE EGRESS⬇️“, and the people exited, thinking it was another exotic animal.

P.T. Barnum is perhaps most famous for his quote “There is a sucker born every minute.”

I believe it was Robert A. Heinlein who is noted for his observation via “The Notebooks of Lazarus Long”, “It is immoral to let a sucker keep his money”.

These philosophies are often the modus opperandi of religious leaders the world over.

 

[Srecko Sostar]

 

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Each generation of GB, individually and collectively, was, they claim, "led by HS". And yet, they constantly change their interpretations with unacceptable, illogical and nonsensical explanations. They never feel the obligation or the need to apologize and beg for forgiveness.

Who is blind here? Leaders? And/or followers?

 

[Srecko Sostar]

At the 2023 Annual Meeting, Geoffrey Jackson delivers a speech. A few sentences speak significantly about the state of this Organization. The inevitable changes in interpretation lead to the follower no longer being sure when what change has occurred and what to believe as it becomes difficult to keep track of what the "current Truth" is.

GJ talks about the new interpretation and wonders if we believe this explanation now or if it is what we believed before or vice versa, at the same time showing a confused expression in a joking tone. Of course, the audience laughs and applauds the humorous situation and presentation of the speaker. And nothing is to be applauded or laughed at. On the contrary.

He continues with a sentence where he says, "Be careful what you say to others." Because really, what interpretation should JW present in public!?

And one more thing that was already written somewhere in your literature about dogmatism. Now GJ repeats it and says: "We should not be dogmatic (about the new interpretation), but we hope that (this new teaching, explanation) will be the case (with the righteous and the unrighteous, judgment, Armageddon etc.).

The latest words often uttered by GB and other WTJWorg representatives is "We don't know".

"New Light" changes this JW religion to an community of agnostics.

 

Etymology

Noun

from Greek agnōstos "unknown," from a- "not" and gnōstos "known"

[Srecko Sostar]

GB member ("deposition"), statement: ..JHVH will not permit us to see some things..

So what are the things you saw, but you changed them later? And who actually showed them to you?

 

[Pudgy]

It’s been many decades since the Cartoon “The Jetsons” has been on TV, and people wondered if it was prophetic, and someday we would be commuting to work in flying cars …. 

Many a Futurist scholarly paper has somewhere in it’s pages mused “… someday we will be have flying cars …”, and year after year … we didn’t.

Well, there is a company in California selling them now. About 45 a year, and in the United States no pilots license is necessary. AND .. ONLY a  100K each!, and  it will fit on the back of a pickup truck.

The JETSON ONE flying car.

Which brings up the question … is it OK to fall deeply in love with a machine?

 

[Srecko Sostar]

4 hours ago, Pudgy said:

flying cars

I think it is not problematic to realize our imagination and desires about such technology. The problem arises when drivers behave idiotically. Imagine when the chaos from the road continues in the air and on land.

[Srecko Sostar]

They say: "The truth always remains the truth".
Yes, maybe somewhere else. But many of the so-called "truths" in WTJWorg are unnecessary, meaningless and harmful to the health of the followers.

 

 

 

 

[Srecko Sostar]

The Jewish religion was/is more permanent in time (duration) and without the appearance of "new lights". Its founder was YHVH. Jesus was a Jew. And as such he was supposed to continue the existing religion of "his fathers". He did not renounce his Jewish faith, he just wanted to cleanse it of the accumulated corruption.

WTJWorg has different religious roots in which it wanted to make changes by bringing religious beliefs closer to what they believed to be "truth" in the OT and NT. A century and a little more of the existence of that organization has shown the failure of the initial idea.

Dramatic changes that accompanied this organization throughout its history became more and more frequent. Today, they culminate in almost daily changes in doctrines and instructions and ways of acting.
It is clearly visible that they are getting more and more entangled in the web they have woven themselves. Maybe some new "Messiah" needs to come to shake the 8 million believers in their sleepiness.

[Srecko Sostar]

“When your own thoughts are forbidden, when your questions are not allowed and our doubts are punished, when contacts with friendships outside of the organization are censored, we are being abused, for the ends never justify the means. When our heart aches knowing we have made friendships and secret attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave, we are in danger. When we consider staying in a group because we cannot bear the loss, disappointment and sorrow our leaving will cause for ourselves and those we have come to love, we are in a cult… If there is any lesson to be learned it is that an ideal can never be brought about by fear, abuse, and the threat of retribution. When family and friends are used as a weapon in order to force us to stay in an organization, something has gone terribly wrong.”

― Deborah Layton, Seductive Poison: A Jonestown Survivor's Story of Life and Death in the Peoples Temple