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14 hours ago, Witness said:

So there is no distinction between what the Catholics thought Jesus looked like, and the organization.  Hmmm.  No spiritual insight by those in “Jehovah’s organization” (yes, I said it again) that Jesus was a native Jew and probably took on the characteristics of a native Jew, as his cousin John the Baptist did in the drawing above. You are telling me that no distinction is seen in this area between Christendom's perception and the organization's perception. 

Hmmm. No spiritual insight by you and your kind.

You can show depiction of Jesus all you want. It doesn’t prevent the fact that you are wrong just like your former religion was wrong, just like your new religion is wrong.

It is a futile endeavor to insinuate what you and science think Jesus looked like. The Watchtower just like everyone else can be confident, Jesus didn’t have long hair just like your depiction shows. His skin color was native to the Nazarene's. Olive color. Some stipulate Jesus was a lighter shade of olive color. What his eye color was, is debatable. What clothes he wore is debatable. If people had their feet washed, sandals were probably used.

Another mistake made by you to justify your inconsistent message.

Scripture does stipulate in 1 Corinthians 11:14 the roles in worship. If you can’t understand scripture, why bother with pictures.

Today’s depiction of Christ by the Watchtower regardless of the criticism here by you is closer to being correct than how Christendom, still continues to portray Christ including yourself.

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As vitriolic as the spiteful crticisms of apostate opposers are, there is a remarkable tide of recognition of the integrity of Jehovah's Witnesses, even among those who do not share our beliefs.

That's true, but it would not attract as much attention. Rutherford had been a political marketer before following Russell/WT/Bible Students. This is why he would ADV/ADV/ADV. And why gimmicks like pu

Nobody but nobody has “apostates” like Jehovah’s Witnesses. It is almost as though I am proud of them. Every NT writer wrote about opposition and apostasy. If it happened then, it should happen now. W

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15 minutes ago, Foreigner said:

 

Today’s depiction of Christ by the Watchtower regardless of the criticism here by you is closer to being correct than how Christendom, still continues to portray Christ including yourself.

None of us here, walked the earth when Jesus did.  None of us, can know for certain if his hair was always washed, neat and trimmed with a good pair of scissors.  Especially, during the 40 days and nights he spent in the wilderness, which was the theme of the painting by the Russian artist.     But, there is one thing that I am most confident in knowing.  Jesus Christ today, does not wear a red, comical superman cape, that your leaders have taken the liberty in assuming he does.  :)   They've really stretched the boundary of scripture there, haven't they!

 

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54 minutes ago, Witness said:

None of us here, walked the earth when Jesus did.  None of us, can know for certain if his hair was always washed, neat and trimmed with a good pair of scissors.  Especially, during the 40 days and nights he spent in the wilderness, which was the theme of the painting by the Russian artist.     But, there is one thing that I am most confident in knowing.  Jesus Christ today, does not wear a red, comical superman cape, that your leaders have taken the liberty in assuming he does.  :)   They've really stretched the boundary of scripture there, haven't they!

I will say, you are stretching the boundary of scripture in all your comments.

I guess you were there to know, when Jesus went to the Temple, he was filthy, and unclean. Providing he did go after being in the wilderness for 40 days without cleaning up first. That seems deceptive and is an antithetical approach to what Jesus looked like.

If you want to depict Jesus looking like an animal just like Nebuchadnezzar looked like when he went insane, and want to convince people you know better, just to win a failing argument, you have no faith, and you are no Christian.

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I suspect Jesus had more “respect” and “honor” for his father than what you are making him out to be.

The Watchtower depiction of Jesus shows him as the Son of God, the Son of Man, and a Great Teacher. What does your depiction show, an erred perception of long hair, just like Christendom. 

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20 hours ago, Foreigner said:

Hmmm. No spiritual insight by you and your kind.

You can show depiction of Jesus all you want. It doesn’t prevent the fact that you are wrong just like your former religion was wrong, just like your new religion is wrong.

What is very significant is size of letters in this quote. I suggest, if i may, that letters in by you and your kind.   need to be even smaller, smaller and smaller and to be finally invisible. Speaking about "your kind" telling also to what kind you belong! :)))

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19 hours ago, Foreigner said:

I will say, you are stretching the boundary of scripture in all your comments.

Amazing! With this you tell us how scripture /verses/ are in "boundaries" because interpretations made by human aka WT Society making spiritual boundaries inside all is explainable and in harmony with "every New Light" that coming from WT Society Spiritual Well. 

Spirit that is behind scripture/verses, is not tied with WT Society "boundaries".   

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19 hours ago, Foreigner said:

The Watchtower depiction of Jesus shows him as the Son of God, the Son of Man, and a Great Teacher.

Well, how would look like WT artistic picture about this: who and how clean His buttock after He had big toilet need as baby and in more few years in His childhood? And after, He has doing that by himself.

Do we need those pictures too?

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8 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

What is very significant is size of letters in this quote. I suggest, if i may, that letters in by you and your kind.   need to be even smaller, smaller and smaller and to be finally invisible. Speaking about "your kind" telling also to what kind you belong! :)))

Since you are an uneducated individual, I will refer you to TTH and JWinsider on why the fonts end up the way they do. It’s their code on this forum. It’s their attempt to hack certain people to find whatever they are looking for. Don't subject yourself to childish posts.

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7 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Well, how would look like WT artistic picture about this: who and how clean His buttock after He had big toilet need as baby and in more few years in His childhood? And after, He has doing that by himself.

Do we need those pictures too?

I would suspect this question to be for witness. That person goes out on every subject to see what will stick. Jesus's appearance that should be portrayed in the best light for Christians, has been a failure to argue, just to find another thing to criticize the Org for and backfire for non-Christians.

Since you are the same, then both of you are failing by arguing nonsense.

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5 hours ago, Foreigner said:

I will refer you to TTH and JWinsider on why the fonts end up the way they do. It’s their code on this forum. It’s their attempt to hack certain people

hack verb (CUT)

[ I or T, + adv/prep ]

to cut into pieces in a rough and violent way, often without aiming exactly  

- https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/hack

@TrueTomHarley and @JW Insider is this what you doing with "certain people" here? :))

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