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How old is this brouchure? Is it new i have never seen it....

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20 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

WT loves money :)))

That appears to be the root of the problem.  1 Tim 6:9,10

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1 hour ago, Witness said:

That appears to be the root of the problem.  1 Tim 6:9,10

desire to posses something is too strong

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19 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

desire to posses something is too strong

There’s a guy I’ve heard about that wants to build a big wall to keep the undesirables out.  He’s changed the design a few times, even the cost to build it.  He’s been caught lying about his plans, including who will foot the bill.  Even at the inconvenient sacrifices of thousands, he still doggedly pursues his goal to procure enough money to build his wall.   

It all sounds very familiar to me.   How much does it cost to build a wall of fabricated stories?  Apparently, a LOT.  Ezek 13-1-23

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10 hours ago, Witness said:

Ezek 13:1-16

 Have you not seen false visions and uttered lying divinations when you say, “The Lord declares,” though I have not spoken?

GB claim how they are "spirit guided", and that The Watchtower as main food instrument for feeding JW people, "declares God's words". We can find sentences in WT publications that directly connecting JHVH and Jesus as speaking through WT magazine and publications. But we see how JHVH not spoken nothing to Them. GB is under "false visions" guidance.   

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This brochure is so disturbing.  Perhaps it's all the happy and "peaceful" looks on everyone's faces, influencing JWs that giving to the organization brings contentment.  

“Do not make any gods to be alongside Me; do not make for yourselves gods of silver or gods of gold”.  Exod 20:23

(Put another way: “do not make a god called “Jehovah’s organization that is built with your silver and gold)

 

It begins with this scripture:  "Honor Jehovah with your valuable things." - Proverbs 3:9   

Is it still true that congregations are growing at a remarkable rate at the same time they’re being consolidated?  It sounds like a revision is in order for this brochure.

"Beyond giving of themselves in the preaching and teaching work, all are privileged to support it through monetary donations.  Doing so is most fitting, for it is vital that this Christian work continue."

It is very sad and hypocritical that the governing body interprets Prov 3:9 as God requiring material possessions when the chapter is about obtaining wisdom from God - truth in Christ, the Logos.  John 1:1  The governing body’s thinking is debased, earthly; not spiritual, but devoid of what the Holy Spirit can teach us.  Phil 3:18,19  They reflect the covetous desires of the world. Gal 5:16-17  Really, JWs, is this how Jesus taught his followers?  Did he say, sell all your belongings and give all those valuables to the rulers of the temple?  He actually chastised them about making his Father’s house a “marketplace”. John 2:16   Interestingly NPR has a program called, “Marketplace” broadcasting the trends in the global economy to help you make the “smartest decisions”, which appears to be the purpose of the brochure above.   The Watchtower wants YOU to invest your money in the latest “trend” to be offered in the last days; an earthly organization that promises spiritual paradise, peace and prosperity, as a high return.  But, is this the smart decision that Jesus expects us to make? 1 Thess 5:3

"Of course, the sources of such donations varied. In the first century, some Christians sold items that they owned, such as fields or houses, and brought the money to the apostles. The apostles distributed these funds to those in need. (Acts 4:34, 35) Others set aside money and gave regular donations to support the work. Thus, people of all walks of life—from the very wealthy to the very poor—had a share.—Luke 21:1-4w18.01 18 ¶7; 19 ¶9

I am wondering, what does the Watchtower mean by supporting the work, since the scripture in Luke 21 has nothing to do with Christ’s preaching work, but everything to do with money going into the temple treasury, the temple that he replaced with his body.  John 2:19,21   Nothing that the organization does today imitates the “work” of the apostles who preached in truth.

For it pleased those from Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints who are in Jerusalem.  Rom 15:26

And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.  1 Cor 13:3

They desired only that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I also was eager to do. Gal 2:10

Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.  1 Tim 5:8

 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poorand you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”  Matt 19:21

 I do hope JWs don’t believe they can “buy” eternal life in the Kingdom by relinquishing their material goods to a voracious Beast; and “investing” oneself to an organization that promises salvation.  Micah 6:11,12; Rev 13:1,4

“The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, that a man found andconcealed, and in his joy he goes and sells everything that he has and buys that field.   “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant searching for fine pearls. 46 And when hefound one very valuable pearl, he went andsold everything that he possessed and purchased it.  Matt 13:44-46

 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Matt 6:19-21

Christ’s and the apostles teachings are still FREE, at least that is the message given to people in the “preaching work”– until one steps into the organization, where “treasures on earth” take precedence over treasures in heaven.

Prov 3:9:

“Honor the Lord with your possessions, (wealth, riches, substance)
And with the firstfruits of all your increase;
10 So your barns will be filled with plenty,
And your vats will overflow with new wine.”

This speaks of God’s “special possession”, the “firstfruits” of God’s children, that must sacrifice their lives as His faithful priests, 'buying' from Christ refined gold filling the heart with the treasure of truth, of wisdom; bringing honor to their Lord. Deut 26:2,4;  2 Pet 2:4,5,9; Rom 8:23; James 1:18; Rom 11:33; 1 Cor 1:4-9

Paul told the anointed firstfruits,

 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God with your body.  1 Cor 20:19

 “I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.”  Rev 3:18

I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them. I will say, ‘This is My people’; And each one will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’ ”  Zech 13:9

They are the Temple/dwelling of God and Christ, where Holy Spirit, symbolized by wine, will flow freely imparting the wisdom of life to all in the Kingdom.  John 2:3-11

God is not interested in building man’s “temple” with a monetary system that thrives in Satan’s world. This is a dream of men which has corrupted truth with its changing lies.  2 Thess 2:9-12  He encourages all of us to become rich in the teachings of Christ that leads to eternal life. Christ’s “living water” flows through the  sealed “firstfruits”, “trees” bearing fruit in all seasons “for the healing of the nations” of mankind in the Kingdom. John 4:10;7:38; Ezek 47:6,7,12; Ps 104:16; Isa 44:1-5; Zech 4:11,14; Rev 11:4; 22:1,2; Matt 7:16-20   All will become filled with the water that provides life.   The “big trees of righteousness” that Stephen Lett called all JWs during the 2018 Annual Meeting, applies to those chosen to serve in the Temple/Holy City.  Their “fruit”, filled with living water/wine/wisdom/Holy Spirit provides the knowledge of God to all His children.  THIS is what the Kingdom is about, not living in a big beautiful house with a garden, although God’s faithful children will lovingly have their needs well taken care of; it’s about knowing the Father and His Son, and living by the Word.  Micah 4:2

 

Wisdom has built her house,
She has hewn out her seven pillars;
She has slaughtered her meat,
She has mixed her wine,
She has also furnished her table.
She has sent out her maidens,
She cries out from the highest places of the city,
“Whoever is simple, let him turn in here!”
As for him who lacks understanding, she says to him,
“Come, eat of my bread
And drink of the wine I have mixed.
Forsake foolishness and live,
And go in the way of understanding. Prov 9:106

Wisdom is the fulfilled New Covenant, the dwelling place of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets -  built on the Body of Christ. 1 Cor 3:16; 2 Cor 6:16; Eph 2:20; Rev 5:6-10; 3:12

And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And the one who hears, let him say, “Come!” And the one who is thirsty, let him come. The one who wants, let him take the water of life freely. Rev 22:17

By reading further in Prov 3:9 we are assured that honoring God with material possessions is not at all what the scripture is teaching us.

Happy is the man who finds wisdom,
And the man who gains understanding;
14 For her proceeds are better than the profits of silver,
And her gain than fine gold.

15 She is more precious than rubies,
And all the things you may desire cannot compare with her.
16 
Length of days is in her right hand,
In her left hand riches and honor.
17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness,
And all her paths are peace.

18 She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her,
And happy are all who retain her.

The days of building temples with material goods are done. We have a Temple already being built with living stones on the anointed Body of Christ – built with the riches of wisdom of truth, bought from Christ once turning away from the WT idol. 1 Pet 2:5,9

We give back to God through our devoted worship and sacrifices of praise. 

  Eph 2:20-22; 2 Thess 2:13,14; Luke 7:35; 1 Cor 1:24; Rev 5:11,12

Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? James 2:5

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Since we know for ourselves, we know there is money. Money brings many things, almost everything. The Bible gives such a statement: A feast is ready for laughter, and wine makes life merry, but money is the answer for everything. ECL. 10:19.
Money is the answer. It is understandable to me that "the organized religion" or any association, needs money to operate. But manipulation with membership that material things to be rendered for the corporation, because God loves it and wants it, it's really saucy/presumptuous

To educate people for how to "invest" money and other material possessions is what people need in this money based World.

But, does "spiritual leaders" aka GB, and particular WT Department existing for that purpose? To give financial advises to "the flock"? Is it Their task to take care about member's money and real estate and silver and gold? Is it on Them to collect member's possessions INTO WT Corporation/s?  

Task for Church Leadership (according to their own new light about 1919 doctrine) is this:

to SHARE Spiritual Food. 

NOT to COLLECT Material Possessions

TO SHARE  vs. TO COLLECT ....opposite verbs, Antonyms Not Synonyms  

If they Collect Money, only reason for that must be to Help PEOPLE, and  NOT to making new buildings and buying Things for "fine life" inside those WALLS (literal and spiritual walls, by the way).  Not to building KH on members expenses and then, after some years to Sold it and put money in WT Corporation account, and not giving one single $ to Congregants who contribute in building with own money, time, food, working power and skills.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Since we know for ourselves, we know there is money. Money brings many things, almost everything. The Bible gives such a statement: A feast is ready for laughter, and wine makes life merry, but money is the answer for everything. ECL. 10:19.
Money is the answer. It is understandable to me that "the organized religion" or any association, needs money to operate. But manipulation with membership that material things to be rendered for the corporation, because God loves it and wants it, it's really saucy/presumptuous

To educate people for how to "invest" money and other material possessions is what people need in this money based World.

But, does "spiritual leaders" aka GB, and particular WT Department existing for that purpose? To give financial advises to "the flock"? Is it Their task to take care about member's money and real estate and silver and gold? Is it on Them to collect member's possessions INTO WT Corporation/s?  

Task for Church Leadership (according to their own new light about 1919 doctrine) is this:

to SHARE Spiritual Food. 

NOT to COLLECT Material Possessions

TO SHARE  vs. TO COLLECT ....opposite verbs, Antonyms Not Synonyms  

If they Collect Money, only reason for that must be to Help PEOPLE, and  NOT to making new buildings and buying Things for "fine life" inside those WALLS (literal and spiritual walls, by the way).  Not to building KH on members expenses and then, after some years to Sold it and put money in WT Corporation account, and not giving one single $ to Congregants who contribute in building with own money, time, food, working power and skills.

 

 

Your good thoughts made be think again on the scriptures I quoted about the apostle’s concern to take care of the poor.  It was known among Jesus’ disciples that the money bag they carried was basically money for the poor.  Judas hypocritically questioned Mary’s use of expensive oil to anoint Jesus’ feet. 

“Why wasn’t this fragrant oil sold for 300 denariiand given to the poor?” He didn’t say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief. He was in charge of the money-bag and would steal part of what was put in it.”  John 12:1-6  (John 13:26-29)

 

I know I’ve expressed this a few years back, but as a new JW, I had witnessed a poor family in the congregation who were not able to feed their children of five because of work difficulties common in a very depressed area; but still they were turned down by the elders when seeking financial help just to buy food.  They had lost their home and were living in a tent.  The answer was that “Jehovah’s organization” spiritually feed the “poor” through the “preaching work”.  This is what Jesus and the apostles did (in truth) without the need for investments and a large treasury, which cannot buy spiritual riches. 

What riches are the GB seeking? Luke 4:5-8 The eye is impressed by what it physically sees, which is exactly the avenue the WT takes, appeasing fleshly desires by building a "high mountain".  Gal 5:19-21; Luke 4:5; Zech 4:7  It is perceived that God’s blessings must be on the organization as can be seen in all the material accomplishments and advancements in technology the organization manages to build and obtain.  WT leaders are like Judas, proclaiming to feed the “poor” but stealing out of the money bag to fulfill their desire to build bigger and better achievements, in the name of a false god - a "mountainlike organization".   

 So Jesus said again, “I assure you: I am the door of the sheep. All who came before Me are thieves and robbers (the Pharisees included),but the sheep didn’t listen to them. I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved and will come in and go out and find pasture. 10 A thief comes only to steal and to kill and to destroy. I have come so that they may have life and have it in abundance.  John 10:7-10

 

“Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves.

“false prophets” – “one who, acting the part of a divinely inspired prophet, utters falsehoods under the name of divine prophecies”

“ravaging” – “rapacious, ravenous, an extortion, a robber”

“wolves” – “metaph. of cruel, greedy, rapacious, destructive men

The door to salvation is simple, not gilded in the gold money can buy, but clothed in the rich glory of God. 2 Cor 11:3,4; Rev 21:1-3,14-27 

 

 

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      Chapter 10: Matters Related to Disfellowshipped and Disassociated Ones
      Chapter 11: Reinstatement Committee Procedure
      Chapter 12: Clarifications and Guidelines on Handling Certain Matters
      List of Annotations
      chapter 2, paragraph 11, after the first sentence, each elder should insert “He must be less than 80 years of age.”

       
    • By Jack Ryan
      Tutorial for Making Donations Electronically video will be considered the week of October 16, 2017.
       
    • By MS60F7
      Just think what we could do if we all shopped on smile.amazon.com and designated the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society as our charity.  I did this over a year ago and, well, my purchases sent $73.45 to the society.  But with others, we have contributed $21,439.23 to the society - that could build two kingdom halls in Africa!!
      Spread the word to use this feature and switch to smile.amazon.com
       
       

    • By ARchiv@L
      May 17, 2017 WHAT’S NEW
      Online Donations for Conventions
      Donations to support the annual conventions of Jehovah’s Witnesses may now be made online from a number of countries. Individuals who choose to donate can find more information on the page How to Donate to the Worldwide Work.
       
      Online Donations for Conventions on JWORG.pdf
       
       
    • By Witness
      A few highlights:
       “Although Jesus does not explain why he calls riches “unrighteous,” the Bible makes clear that commercialism was not part of God’s purpose. Par 6
       Along with the political and religious elements, the greedy commercial system, represented by “the merchants” of Revelation 18:3, constitutes part of Satan’s world. Unlike the complete separation that God’s people maintain from politics and false religion,  most cannot separate themselves completely from the commercial part of Satan’s world. Par 2
      Another way to gain friendship with Jehovah is by minimizing our involvement with the commercial world and using our circumstances to seek “true” riches. Par 12
      “Our annual Goldman Sachs Asset Management (GSAM) Growth Markets Summit, held on April 24th and 25th in New York City, featured a series of in-depth conversations on important themes and dynamics shaping the Growth Markets today. The event comprised 18 different sessions featuring over 40 leading CEOs, CIOs, policy makers, political scientists, industry experts, investment fund managers and senior Goldman Sachs professionals. We were honored to be joined by over 400 attendees representing over 275 organizations from 37 countries.”   2012 GROWTH MARKETS SUMMIT
      http://www.goldmansachs.com/gsam/pdfs/growth-summit-2012/2012GMS_RECAP2.pdf
      The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society were among the 400 attendees.
      “An obvious way to prove ourselves faithful with our material things is by contributing financially to the worldwide preaching work that Jesus foretold would take place.  (Matt. 24:14) A young girl in India kept a small money box and gradually added coins, even giving up toys to do so. When the box was full, she handed the money over to be used for the preaching work. A brother in India who has a coconut farm contributed a large number of coconuts to the Malayalam remote translation office, reasoning that since the office needs to buy coconuts, his supplying them directly will help his contribution to go further than it would if he gave cash. That is practical wisdom. Likewise, brothers in Greece regularly contribute olive oil, cheese, and other foods for the Bethel family.” Par 8
      Is it considered “practical wisdom” for the Watchtower to use another’s hard earned funds to support its commercial endeavors which are far from minimal? Although it is apparent that the Wt. is using another’s riches 'unrighteously', the “unrighteous riches” Jesus was referring to had no reference to commercialism or monetary donations made by such touching examples in paragraph 8.  This is conclusive when reading Matt 19:21-24,29; 6:19-21
      Each anointed one has a spiritual debt to pay to his Master, Christ.  (1 Cor 12:1-11; Matt 13:8; Luke 17:10)  The Steward appointed over God’s household refuses to let his fellow slaves pay their debt, the return on the provisions they received.  This is the reality with the GB, who selfishly refuses to accept input from other anointed ones, thus this “wasteful steward” cannot be trusted with handling all provisions of God’s House.  Prov 15:22; 1 Cor 4:8; Mark 10:42-44
      In the parable, the steward was cutting the debts owed to the Master, Jesus, using practical “earthly” wisdom to save his own soul, but he had no authority to do so. Thus, the steward’s wisdom is centered not on the Kingdom, as a son of light, but on acquiring power and authority over all in God’s House, as a “son of this system of things”, which the GB has successfully done.
       If this steward was to ‘make friends’ by sharing authority with all in the house, he would later be judged by his fellow servants, as faithful. John 20:23 
      The Watchtower makes the comment,
      “Although Jesus does not explain why he calls riches “unrighteous,” the Bible makes clear that commercialism was not part of God’s purpose.” Par 6
      The attached article is written by an anointed one, who has been blessed with the spiritual understanding of "unrighteous riches".   If the Wt. doesn't 'get it', who are they serving, God or wealth?  Luke 16:13
      Wasteful Steward - http://pearl-wastefulsteward.blogspot.com/
       
       
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      MANKATO — The city-owned former CCTV building isn't particularly versatile or beauteous, has no parking and can't be used for rental housing. So when the Mankato City Council asked people to submit offers to purchase and propose a new use for the Vine Street structure, no private developers stepped forward.
      The non-profit Key City Bike organization, however, sees the former Jehovah's Witness worship hall as a potential gift from above.
      Key City's current space at 1429 N. Riverfront Drive has no furnace or air conditioner.
      In cold-weather months, the organization has to discontinue its mission of reclaiming old and unwanted bikes, providing them for free to kids, helping needy adults build their own bike, instructing people in bike repair, and teaching bikers to ride safely.
      "So we have to go by the seasons," said Key City Executive Director Acacia Wytaske.
      And when Key City's volunteers and patrons have to go, well, they have to go elsewhere. There's no restroom at the Riverfront Drive site, not even a sink.
      The old CCTV building?
      "We'd have bathroom facilities ...," Wytaske told the City Council Monday night, a bit of wonder in her voice. "People would be able to wash their hands after they get greasy."
      Members of the City Council, acting in their role as the Economic Development Authority, weren't thrilled with the nonprofit's $1 proposed payment for the Vine Street building even as they indicated broad support for Key City's altruistic work.
      "What's not to like about your organization?" Mayor Eric Anderson said.
      But Anderson and Council members Karen Foreman and Mark Frost said there's reason for the council to hesitate in giving Key City the building. It's not really theirs to give.
      "We do have a different responsibility here because the building is an asset of the public," Anderson said.
      The building was purchased by the city from the Jehovah's Witnesses in 1990 but lost its purpose when the public-access television studio was moved to Bethany Lutheran College in 2015. 
      Traditional fiduciary stewardship would suggest seeking the highest possible return when unloading unneeded taxpayer assets, Anderson said: "The logical move is just to sell the building and get what we can get out of it."
      Without any off-street parking, though, the building doesn't have a lot of potential as a commercial business, Community Development Director Paul Vogel said. Because the 200-block of East Vine Street already has the maximum allowed amount of rental housing, it couldn't be sold for apartments.
      It could become a single-family home, but only if someone was looking for a 3,200-square-foot house that was designed as worship space and later converted into a public-access television building with offices, a studio and editing bays.
      Despite its limitations, though, Blue Earth County has assessed the building's value at $169,000.
      An assessment of the building calculated $90,000 in needed repairs, although Frost said he looked at the structure with a contractor friend who thought those estimates were overstated five-fold.
      Key City officials have indicated a willingness to make repairs to the building, although the larger fixes would need to await fundraising efforts. City staff is also recommending that any agreement with Key City would need to allow the city to reclaim the building if the organization discontinued operations, failed to maintain the structure or attempted to sell it.
      Foreman suggested staff add provisions to any contract with Key City that spells out what repairs the organization would make in return for receiving the building for free. In addition, Foreman said the agreement could include the possibility of annual payments to the city if Key City, through grants or other funding sources, because more financially flush in future years.
      "At some point down the line, we need to start having some financial responsibility back to the citizen," Foreman said.
      Council members voted to have staff continue negotiations with Key City. A proposed agreement is expected to come back for a final decision at an Economic Development Authority meeting in March or April.
      http://www.mankatofreepress.com/news/council-mulls-donation-of-building-to-bike-non-profit/article_a5a281d8-f25a-11e6-a762-7b8cc6a634e2.html
       
    • By Diakonos
      The organization often uses the scriptures from 1 Cor 16 and 2 Cor 8 to appeal for us to make contributions to the world wide work. However, as you read these verses in context the contributions that were collected were for the material needs of fellow Christians who were undergoing poverty and famine. I am in no doubt that many of our fellow Christians in this world would welcome material assistance, especially in some of the poorer countries. Instead millions are spent on making the organizations headquarters into a palatial residence not to mention the millions that have already been paid out in settlements regarding sexual abuse cases !! I strongly feel that this is an abuse of those scriptures, making them say what the writer and ultimately the divine author did not intend. Agree or disagree ?
    • Guest Nicole
      By Guest Nicole
      I made a donation on line at JW.ORG. Why are they using a Switzerland banking address?
    • By The Librarian
      2005 - $20,000 for CHANHASSEN JEVOVAH WITNES y ST LOUIS JEHOVAH WITNESS
      2006 - $130,000 for JEHOVAH WITNESS KINGDOM HALL
      2007 - $800,000 for PECCOLE RANCH LAKES KINGDOM HALL FUND
      The amounts of his donations has been posted in other forums with copies of the public tax filings of his Love 4 One Another foundation.

       
      I will add a link to this page to his central post on this forum:
       
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